Re: Adverse reactions;Divide and Conquer?

[Guest guest]

Jim,

Is it your understanding that it takes 50mg of Iodoral to keep one in the proper

amount of iodine and to keep other toxic halogens out of the system?

Less than that is not enough, perhaps? Why is 50 mg the magic dose I'm

wondering? I'm at 25 mg at the moment and working up not knowing when to stop.

I've seen that some people are at higher doses. How do they know when to stop?

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> Some thoughts on the adverse reactions from dumping the toxins as a result of

taking Iodine.Firstly, it seems to me that these fall into 2 different

categories; Firstly, there are what might be called Iodine specific toxins.These

would be the other Halides that key into iodine receptors, and block absorbtion

of iodine into the cells;Floride, Bromide, etc.It is my understanding it

requires high doses of iodine to 'push' these out.i.e. small amounts of dietary

iodine, like you might get from eating shrimp, are blocked from getting into the

cells, because these other halides are sitting in the receptors.We take 50mg or

more a day in order to push these out, so the iodine can get in.

> But there are also non-iodine specific toxins that are released when we start

supplementing with iodine;The iodine kills a variety of

fungus,parasites,bacteria, etc. which, as they die, release toxins.There are

other substances which will also kill these bad guys; food grade H202,

MSM,colloidal silver etc.So, if one finds they have a severe reaction with

iodine, they could consider doing this as a 2 step process; first use one of

these other methods to kill off these baddies, adjusting the dosage downward if

neccesary to keep the toxin release tolerable, (such as the MMS protecol

describes).This would not promote the release of Bromide, etc. Once this had

been dealt with, THEN go to Iodine, and tackle the Halides.Hence, " Divide and

Conquer " . Jim

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[Guest guest]

Hi Jim,

INTERESTING! But which? How would I know when/if to use the H2O2, the

MSM,colloidal silver, etc? I am at 50mg now, going up another tab just to " see "

how I feel. Then another. The sooner I get rid of whatever the better. I will

go back to 50mg if it's too much but how would I know what I am killing off? I

am new at this and this theory you write is very interesting.

How would I know if it was mercury from fillings? Can't do anything about

the last four for awhile. Then there is the sluggish adrenals I am trying to

support/heal. Would I be doing too much? I would hate to go off the iodine

completely. I have a goiter. So I do need it. ~~Barb

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> > Some thoughts on the adverse reactions from dumping the toxins as a result

of taking Iodine.Firstly, it seems to me that these fall into 2 different

categories; Firstly, there are what might be called Iodine specific toxins.These

would be the other Halides that key into iodine receptors, and block absorbtion

of iodine into the cells;Floride, Bromide, etc.It is my understanding it

requires high doses of iodine to 'push' these out.i.e. small amounts of dietary

iodine, like you might get from eating shrimp, are blocked from getting into the

cells, because these other halides are sitting in the receptors.We take 50mg or

more a day in order to push these out, so the iodine can get in.

> > But there are also non-iodine specific toxins that are released when we

start supplementing with iodine;The iodine kills a variety of

fungus,parasites,bacteria, etc. which, as they die, release toxins.There are

other substances which will also kill these bad guys; food grade H202,

MSM,colloidal silver etc.So, if one finds they have a severe reaction with

iodine, they could consider doing this as a 2 step process; first use one of

these other methods to kill off these baddies, adjusting the dosage downward if

necessary to keep the toxin release tolerable, (such as the MMS protocol

describes).This would not promote the release of Bromide, etc. Once this had

been dealt with, THEN go to Iodine, and tackle the Halides.Hence, " Divide and

Conquer " . Jim

> >

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[Guest guest]

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I was trying say this; The initial idea behind putting

iodine in salt was that a very small amount of iodine on a daily basis would

'protect' the thyroid from becoming hypo, and goiters, etc.This was before we

had the level of understanding we have now; that these other halides, bromide,

etc. block the receptors.So, a small dose of iodine, either from iodised salt or

from food, won't be a high enough dose to push these other halides out.50mg. to

100mg. daily seems to be recognised currently as a minimum amount neccesary to

accomplish this.Jim

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> > Some thoughts on the adverse reactions from dumping the toxins as a result

of taking Iodine.Firstly, it seems to me that these fall into 2 different

categories; Firstly, there are what might be called Iodine specific toxins.These

would be the other Halides that key into iodine receptors, and block absorbtion

of iodine into the cells;Floride, Bromide, etc.It is my understanding it

requires high doses of iodine to 'push' these out.i.e. small amounts of dietary

iodine, like you might get from eating shrimp, are blocked from getting into the

cells, because these other halides are sitting in the receptors.We take 50mg or

more a day in order to push these out, so the iodine can get in.

> > But there are also non-iodine specific toxins that are released when we

start supplementing with iodine;The iodine kills a variety of

fungus,parasites,bacteria, etc. which, as they die, release toxins.There are

other substances which will also kill these bad guys; food grade H202,

MSM,colloidal silver etc.So, if one finds they have a severe reaction with

iodine, they could consider doing this as a 2 step process; first use one of

these other methods to kill off these baddies, adjusting the dosage downward if

neccesary to keep the toxin release tolerable, (such as the MMS protecol

describes).This would not promote the release of Bromide, etc. Once this had

been dealt with, THEN go to Iodine, and tackle the Halides.Hence, " Divide and

Conquer " . Jim

> >

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[Guest guest]

Again, Barb; Slow Down a little bit. Going off half cocked won't get you

anywhere.Based on your posts, I would guess you are adrenally fatigued AND hypo,

although you need to chart temps for awhile to be sure.You are where I was

several years ago; You know you are sick, are sick and tired of being sick and

tired, and have come to realise that mainstream medicine doesn't have a clue as

to how to make you better.And, after (perhaps) years and years of being jacked

around by clueless Dr.'s, you have decided to take charge of your own medical

care.CONGRADULATIONS!This is a first, key step.However, a scattershot or shotgun

approach is not going to get you where you want to be.There is a step by step

approach, that can get you where you want to be.If you have medical insurance,

you can use Dr. to get you tests which will be helpful, and have insurance pay

for them.Maybe even get some Rx.'s payed for by Insurance.(Yeah, I know, I'm

leery of RX meds, but depending on how badly your adrenals are stressed, MIGHT

be neccesary, for a short time). If you don't have Ins., can still get what you

need, without Dr.'s.For now, I would put aside the idea of dealing with mercury

fillings.Not that I think they are harmless, its just that its complicated, and

expensive. It has to be done right, or will make matters worse, and even when

done right it is going to be stressful, and right now you need to avoid

stress.Jim

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> > > Some thoughts on the adverse reactions from dumping the toxins as a result

of taking Iodine.Firstly, it seems to me that these fall into 2 different

categories; Firstly, there are what might be called Iodine specific toxins.These

would be the other Halides that key into iodine receptors, and block absorbtion

of iodine into the cells;Floride, Bromide, etc.It is my understanding it

requires high doses of iodine to 'push' these out.i.e. small amounts of dietary

iodine, like you might get from eating shrimp, are blocked from getting into the

cells, because these other halides are sitting in the receptors.We take 50mg or

more a day in order to push these out, so the iodine can get in.

> > > But there are also non-iodine specific toxins that are released when we

start supplementing with iodine;The iodine kills a variety of

fungus,parasites,bacteria, etc. which, as they die, release toxins.There are

other substances which will also kill these bad guys; food grade H202,

MSM,colloidal silver etc.So, if one finds they have a severe reaction with

iodine, they could consider doing this as a 2 step process; first use one of

these other methods to kill off these baddies, adjusting the dosage downward if

necessary to keep the toxin release tolerable, (such as the MMS protocol

describes).This would not promote the release of Bromide, etc. Once this had

been dealt with, THEN go to Iodine, and tackle the Halides.Hence, " Divide and

Conquer " . Jim

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