Re: Iodine and temperatures

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Yea, Kathleen, I don't know whats up with that.Might check to see if you are a

member, I don't know. I do know I sometimes seem to find the NTH group slightly

less restrictive, but thats just my perception.

I feel both groups tend to get too caught up and focused on lab tests. " Here's

my latest labs, what do they mean? " Would just once like to see a responce,

" O.k., but how do you FEEL? What are your symptoms, what are your temperatures,

What kind of a responce do you get from the pupil test? "

But then, I kind of have a bug up my butt about lab tests.Its not that i think

they have NO value, just that they are given a value higher than is

justified.One of the reasons I like being a member of this group is I don't see

any/many posts about lab tests.

More conversations about Iodine, and the mechanism behind how the body works,

etc. I learn a lot from this group! ;-) Jim

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> > > > > Hi

> > > > >

> > > > > I have now 'hit' 50mg of iodine. Last week and this week so far, my

usually sub-normal temps are above normal...around 99.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't feel sick, although my sinuses are sore.

> > > > >

> > > > > My energy is somewhat better, my usually low BP is a little higher

and I'm having no notable detox symptoms.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am taking sea salt (1 tsp/day), selenium, Bs, C, mag, etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > I didn't get an answer from the adrenal list. I think when I

mentioned iodine they may have been derailed, but I didn't bump the question

either.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any ideas why my temp is high?

> > > > >

> > > > > Jaye

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[Guest guest]

What is the MMS protocol recently? I know this is OT but maybe you can direct me

to where this is discussed? I'm curious.

Thanks,

Sally

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> Started the MMS protecol recently.

[Guest guest]

Not disagreeing at all with that. I didn't find any problem with Iodine, and I'm

AF. Wife it knocked her on her butt.That was when I had her try it, soon after

she had an adrenal crash.

Later, after she got her weight up, it was (80LBS at the worst point), and her

BP more normal (basically 75/70 at the worst point!) I was able to introduce her

to Lugols again, slowly. No problem.I don't think many people get AF as bad as

she.And, as you point out, if you have other serious medical conditions, could

also increase reaction.Jim

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> > > > Hi

> > > >

> > > > I have now 'hit' 50mg of iodine. Last week and this week so far, my

> > usually sub-normal temps are above normal...around 99.

> > > >

> > > > I don't feel sick, although my sinuses are sore.

> > > >

> > > > My energy is somewhat better, my usually low BP is a little higher and

> > I'm having no notable detox symptoms.

> > > >

> > > > I am taking sea salt (1 tsp/day), selenium, Bs, C, mag, etc.

> > > >

> > > > I didn't get an answer from the adrenal list. I think when I mentioned

> > iodine they may have been derailed, but I didn't bump the question either.

> > > >

> > > > Any ideas why my temp is high?

> > > >

> > > > Jaye

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> Ariel Monserrat

> Publisher & Managing Editor

> Green Egg zine

> www.greeneggzine.com

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[Guest guest]

This isn't a direct answer to you, Jim, just some comments I've collected while

reading this thread.

To be fair, the NTH adrenals group does not advocate (or it doesn't seem so to

me) staying on HC forever. There is a lot of discussion on how to wean off,

when and why.

And I do find there is a lot of talk about how one 'feels' compared to what labs

say...although there is a lot of stress on labs.

I'm a rather rules oriented person myself. Rules give me comfort. I know what

to expect...(can you say I live with adrenal fatigue?? LOL). I think I can

understand why labs are given the 'cachet " they have been. Again, to be fair,

Val does not read them as most docs read them...which is kind of the point of

the group, right? She is very good at what she does.

But I do agree that there are generalizations made that may not suit all. Kinda

like what docs tend to do...

But different.

My two cents...

Jaye

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi

> > > > >

> > > > > I have now 'hit' 50mg of iodine. Last week and this week so far, my

> > > usually sub-normal temps are above normal...around 99.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't feel sick, although my sinuses are sore.

> > > > >

> > > > > My energy is somewhat better, my usually low BP is a little higher and

> > > I'm having no notable detox symptoms.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am taking sea salt (1 tsp/day), selenium, Bs, C, mag, etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > I didn't get an answer from the adrenal list. I think when I mentioned

> > > iodine they may have been derailed, but I didn't bump the question either.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any ideas why my temp is high?

> > > > >

> > > > > Jaye

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> > --

> > Ariel Monserrat

> > Publisher & Managing Editor

> > Green Egg zine

> > www.greeneggzine.com

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Question for you: What is your ferritin level?

Question for iodine experts: Is this something to be concerned about when taking

iodine?

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> > > > > Hi

> > > > >

> > > > > I have now 'hit' 50mg of iodine. Last week and this week so far, my

usually sub-normal temps are above normal...around 99.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't feel sick, although my sinuses are sore.

> > > > >

> > > > > My energy is somewhat better, my usually low BP is a little higher and

I'm having no notable detox symptoms.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am taking sea salt (1 tsp/day), selenium, Bs, C, mag, etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > I didn't get an answer from the adrenal list. I think when I mentioned

iodine they may have been derailed, but I didn't bump the question either.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any ideas why my temp is high?

> > > > >

> > > > > Jaye

> > > > >

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[Guest guest]

I have to agree that if your temps are more stable, it's an indication that the

adrenals are functioning better.

> > >

> > > Hi

> > >

> > > I have now 'hit' 50mg of iodine. Last week and this week so far, my

usually sub-normal temps are above normal...around 99.

> > >

> > > I don't feel sick, although my sinuses are sore.

> > >

> > > My energy is somewhat better, my usually low BP is a little higher and I'm

having no notable detox symptoms.

> > >

> > > I am taking sea salt (1 tsp/day), selenium, Bs, C, mag, etc.

> > >

> > > I didn't get an answer from the adrenal list. I think when I mentioned

iodine they may have been derailed, but I didn't bump the question either.

> > >

> > > Any ideas why my temp is high?

> > >

> > > Jaye

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I agree that you should be on iodine. You really need to look up Shame's Ladder. Essentially, when you have thyroid and adrenal issues you should step each one up gradually like a ladder. One step up thyroid (iodine/armour) one step adrenal (could be cortisol if needed or it could just be a little more time than others might need before increasing thyroid doses).

From: Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...>iodine Sent: Fri, January 28, 2011 6:23:54 PMSubject: Re: Re: Iodine and temperatures

Linn, I agree with you. When I first found out I had adrenal fatigue, I was using iodine. I don't think it hurt me one bit to use the iodine and I think it probably helped a great deal. If you need to detox from the bromide, and the like, then it makes sense to take care of that problem as well as the others. I'm sure there are people who can't tolerate it though, but I would imagine they are in the minority. IIRC, the owner of the adrenals list was EXTREMELY ill from AF and a few other things. Makes sense she couldn't tolerate it.One other thing; she cites a research paper on Hashi's in Japan and the high rate, believing that too much iodine can cause Hashi's. I'd like to point out that this is only ONE study and the author made that conclusion based on that one paper, which I've read. There is at least one other study I came across that completely invalidated that other study. The author of this other paper (it's in the Brownstein book on

iodine) found that fishermen had Hashi's in high proportions; but residents in the town also had Hashi's and they were getting the same amount of iodine as the fishermen.One of the problems with that first study is that Hashi's has increased dramatically around the entire world; to me, that also invalidates that study.Also, I'm happy to announce that my temps that were running about 96.7; finally this a.m. it was at 98 - must be doing something right! I'm thinking that maybe I'm finally detoxed enough from the bromide, etc. like Brownstein said, you wake up one morning and find your temps are back to normal. I'm almost there.Basal temp should be 98.2 right?Ariel

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Linn <linnmiller@...> wrote:

I disagree, there are lots of folks that have taken iodine and healed adrenal problems at the same time. You're not going to get informed advice about iodine from the adrenal list.

Linn

On Jan 28, 2011, at 2:27 AM, dutchdivco wrote:

Jen, Taking iodine causes a detoxifying.Releasing those toxins increases stress on the adrenals.And, as you point out, it throws your temps off, which complicates the other things you are doing.Yes, iodine increses your temps, and may eventually mean you will need less NTH.You might want to consider putting the iodine on the shelf, for now.Concentrate on healing your adrenals, (so they can handle the detoxing stress) and working up to the 'right' dose of NTH. Then get the iodine back off the shelf.If it then causes a raise in temps, (after you've gotten them stabilised and at around 98.6), you can slightly reduce your NTH.Obviously, eventually you can wean off the adrenal support, and, perhaps wean of the NTH and just go with the Iodine. But thats way down the road, and you have to take it,....one,.....step,....at,....a,....time.Jim> >> > Hi> > > > I have now 'hit' 50mg of iodine. Last week and this week so far, my usually sub-normal temps are above

normal...around 99.> > > > I don't feel sick, although my sinuses are sore.> > > > My energy is somewhat better, my usually low BP is a little higher and I'm having no notable detox symptoms.> > > > I am taking sea salt (1 tsp/day), selenium, Bs, C, mag, etc.> > > > I didn't get an answer from the adrenal list. I think when I mentioned iodine they may have been derailed, but I didn't bump the question either.> > > > Any ideas why my temp is high?> > > > Jaye> >>

-- Ariel MonserratPublisher & Managing EditorGreen Egg zinewww.greeneggzine.com

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Sally, sorry your profile is blocked, so can't e-mail you direct.In addition to

the protecol thats been 'out' for some time, Jim, (the guy behind MMS, sorry

don't know his full name) has put out a second protecol for those with major

illnesses; Hep C, Cancer, etc.

Basically, it is taking the MMS every hour, for either 8 or 10 hrs.Its a more

intense protecol. I'm sure you can find his site, and the protecol, with a

google search. Jim

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> > Started the MMS protecol recently.

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[Guest guest]

Just Google MMS........Dr. Jim Humble is the persons name.

Re: Iodine and temperatures

Sally, sorry your profile is blocked, so can't e-mail you direct.In addition to the protecol thats been 'out' for some time, Jim, (the guy behind MMS, sorry don't know his full name) has put out a second protecol for those with major illnesses; Hep C, Cancer, etc.Basically, it is taking the MMS every hour, for either 8 or 10 hrs.Its a more intense protecol. I'm sure you can find his site, and the protecol, with a google search. Jim> >> > Started the MMS protecol recently.>

[Guest guest]

I'll third that. I was treated for adrenal exhaustion by an Integrative

Medicine MD, without iodine, for most of a year (she said my saliva test

was the worst she'd ever seen). Nothing she did healed my situation (which

included 3mg of iodine/day), just minimal change. Lost my insurance and

couldn't consult with her anymore. Health crash forced me to look for

solutions and found iodine. Started iodine and got advice on additional

supplements for healing adrenals. Took extra unrefined salt (1+ tablespoon

per day), extra Vit C, Vit E (1200iu/day), started Vit D3 every day

(8000iu), plus Isocort (1-2 pellets per day). After 2-3 months of this, I

had to stop the Isocort (adrenal glandular) because when I would take it, I

would become overadrenalated.

Since then, I can do my work for hours at a time and not crash

constantly. I have energy to spare and have been doing music and

performance with my partner, etc. Can go out and dance for hours. And

also since then, have lost at least 20 pounds and not regaining.

The body will not heal without iodine, so waiting until the adrenals are

balanced is, imo, a bit foolish. It's like painting a picture and you need

black paint, but you try to paint the whole thing without the black paint

and you wait until the whole picture is finished before ever using any

black paint. It's really hard to paint and leave all the spaces blank

where the black is needed, and you'll probably have to go back in and add

more color around all the places that you've now added the black

paint. Better to have access to the whole palette. Imperfect analogy but

I'm an artist so what can I say.

Much of the modern epidemic of unwellness is the result of iodine

deficiency, and without iodine there will be no healing.

--V

At 10:35 AM 1/28/2011, you wrote:

>I second that. Iodine was a key part of healing my adrenals. The Adrenal

>group is biased against iodine due to the owner and she has her own issues

>that are not addressed so she thinks it applies to everyone with a blanket

>broad stroke - no iodine when there are adrenal issues.

>

>Steph

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>I disagree, there are lots of folks that have taken iodine and healed

>adrenal problems at the same time. You're not going to get informed

>advice about iodine from the adrenal list.

>

>Linn

>

>On Jan 28, 2011, at 2:27 AM, dutchdivco wrote:

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>>Jen, Taking iodine causes a detoxifying.Releasing those toxins increases

>>stress on the adrenals.And, as you point out, it throws your temps off,

>>which complicates the other things you are doing.

>>Yes, iodine increses your temps, and may eventually mean you will need

>>less NTH.

>>You might want to consider putting the iodine on the shelf, for

>>now.Concentrate on healing your adrenals, (so they can handle the

>>detoxing stress) and working up to the 'right' dose of NTH. Then get the

>>iodine back off the shelf.If it then causes a raise in temps, (after

>>you've gotten them stabilised and at around 98.6), you can slightly

>>reduce your NTH.Obviously, eventually you can wean off the adrenal

>>support, and, perhaps wean of the NTH and just go with the Iodine. But

>>thats way down the road, and you have to take

>>it,....one,.....step,....at,....a,....time.Jim

>>

>>

>> > >

>> > > Hi

>> > >

>> > > I have now 'hit' 50mg of iodine. Last week and this week so far, my

>> usually sub-normal temps are above normal...around 99.

>> > >

>> > > I don't feel sick, although my sinuses are sore.

>> > >

>> > > My energy is somewhat better, my usually low BP is a little higher

>> and I'm having no notable detox symptoms.

>> > >

>> > > I am taking sea salt (1 tsp/day), selenium, Bs, C, mag, etc.

>> > >

>> > > I didn't get an answer from the adrenal list. I think when I

>> mentioned iodine they may have been derailed, but I didn't bump the

>> question either.

>> > >

>> > > Any ideas why my temp is high?

>> > >

>> > > Jaye

>> > >

>> >

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~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kathleen.

I just realized I misspoke in my letter. I said that I was treated

" without iodine " but then described the small amount of iodine she

prescribed. I meant to write " with a small amount of iodine " , I don't know

how it came out wrongly.

--V

At 05:15 PM 1/30/2011, you wrote:

>Great analogy ! ( I visualized purple paint however <wink>. Kathleen

> Re: Re: Iodine and temperatures

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> >I disagree, there are lots of folks that have taken iodine and healed

> >adrenal problems at the same time. You're not going to get informed

> >advice about iodine from the adrenal list.

> >

> >Linn

> >

> >On Jan 28, 2011, at 2:27 AM, dutchdivco wrote:

> >

> >>

> >>

> >>Jen, Taking iodine causes a detoxifying.Releasing those toxins increases

> >>stress on the adrenals.And, as you point out, it throws your temps off,

> >>which complicates the other things you are doing.

> >>Yes, iodine increses your temps, and may eventually mean you will need

> >>less NTH.

> >>You might want to consider putting the iodine on the shelf, for

> >>now.Concentrate on healing your adrenals, (so they can handle the

> >>detoxing stress) and working up to the 'right' dose of NTH. Then get the

> >>iodine back off the shelf.If it then causes a raise in temps, (after

> >>you've gotten them stabilised and at around 98.6), you can slightly

> >>reduce your NTH.Obviously, eventually you can wean off the adrenal

> >>support, and, perhaps wean of the NTH and just go with the Iodine. But

> >>thats way down the road, and you have to take

> >>it,....one,.....step,....at,....a,....time.Jim

> >>

> >>

> >> > >

> >> > > Hi

> >> > >

> >> > > I have now 'hit' 50mg of iodine. Last week and this week so far, my

> >> usually sub-normal temps are above normal...around 99.

> >> > >

> >> > > I don't feel sick, although my sinuses are sore.

> >> > >

> >> > > My energy is somewhat better, my usually low BP is a little higher

> >> and I'm having no notable detox symptoms.

> >> > >

> >> > > I am taking sea salt (1 tsp/day), selenium, Bs, C, mag, etc.

> >> > >

> >> > > I didn't get an answer from the adrenal list. I think when I

> >> mentioned iodine they may have been derailed, but I didn't bump the

> >> question either.

> >> > >

> >> > > Any ideas why my temp is high?

> >> > >

> >> > > Jaye

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>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

>--A.J. Muste

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~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

My ferritin is 37.9 (11-306). Thanks for asking that other question.

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> > > > > > Hi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have now 'hit' 50mg of iodine. Last week and this week so far, my

usually sub-normal temps are above normal...around 99.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't feel sick, although my sinuses are sore.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My energy is somewhat better, my usually low BP is a little higher

and I'm having no notable detox symptoms.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am taking sea salt (1 tsp/day), selenium, Bs, C, mag, etc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I didn't get an answer from the adrenal list. I think when I

mentioned iodine they may have been derailed, but I didn't bump the question

either.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Any ideas why my temp is high?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jaye

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[Guest guest]

Great road trip analogy Jim! Wish we could convey that to everyone starting out.

At the beginning we're all thinking (wishing) that we'll find ONE thing to do or

take and be done and on with our lives. But no.

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> > > > > Hi

> > > > >

> > > > > I have now 'hit' 50mg of iodine. Last week and this week so far, my

usually sub-normal temps are above normal...around 99.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't feel sick, although my sinuses are sore.

> > > > >

> > > > > My energy is somewhat better, my usually low BP is a little higher and

I'm having no notable detox symptoms.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am taking sea salt (1 tsp/day), selenium, Bs, C, mag, etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > I didn't get an answer from the adrenal list. I think when I

mentioned iodine they may have been derailed, but I didn't bump the question

either.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any ideas why my temp is high?

> > > > >

> > > > > Jaye

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[Guest guest]

Jaye, I'm still just noticing that my temps are higher with HC, which I consider

a good thing. They still aren't stable but I keep raising HC which raises

temperature each week so I'll have to wait a bit to see if they stabilize. That

would be a cool effect.

> > >

> > > Hi

> > >

> > > I have now 'hit' 50mg of iodine. Last week and this week so far, my

usually sub-normal temps are above normal...around 99.

> > >

> > > I don't feel sick, although my sinuses are sore.

> > >

> > > My energy is somewhat better, my usually low BP is a little higher and I'm

having no notable detox symptoms.

> > >

> > > I am taking sea salt (1 tsp/day), selenium, Bs, C, mag, etc.

> > >

> > > I didn't get an answer from the adrenal list. I think when I mentioned

iodine they may have been derailed, but I didn't bump the question either.

> > >

> > > Any ideas why my temp is high?

> > >

> > > Jaye

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

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2-3 months is a quick turn around for severely depleted adrenals! Congrats! If

I recall Dr. thinks it can take up to 2 yrs for severe depletion.

Do you credit higher doses of iodine for that? Or just a combo of all the

supportive nutrients?

How long did you use 1+ TBSP of unrefined salt during the adrenal healing

period? (and how the heck did you get that much down?!? :-) ) How did you

determine what amount of Isocort was right for you & your situation?

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Hi

> > >> > >

> > >> > > I have now 'hit' 50mg of iodine. Last week and this week so far, my

> > >> usually sub-normal temps are above normal...around 99.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > I don't feel sick, although my sinuses are sore.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > My energy is somewhat better, my usually low BP is a little higher

> > >> and I'm having no notable detox symptoms.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > I am taking sea salt (1 tsp/day), selenium, Bs, C, mag, etc.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > I didn't get an answer from the adrenal list. I think when I

> > >> mentioned iodine they may have been derailed, but I didn't bump the

> > >> question either.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Any ideas why my temp is high?

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Jaye

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> >~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> >--A.J. Muste

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> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> --A.J. Muste

>

[Guest guest]

Does taking more of the unrefined salt

help quicken the recovery time for the adrenals?

Lori

Re: Iodine and

temperatures

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2-3 months is a quick turn around for severely depleted adrenals! Congrats! If

I recall Dr. thinks it can take up to 2 yrs for severe depletion.

Do you credit higher doses of iodine for that? Or just a combo of all the

supportive nutrients?

How long did you use 1+ TBSP of unrefined salt during the adrenal healing

period? (and how the heck did you get that much down?!? :-) ) How did you

determine what amount of Isocort was right for you & your situation?

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Hi

> > >> > >

> > >> > > I have now 'hit' 50mg of iodine. Last week and

this week so far, my

> > >> usually sub-normal temps are above normal...around 99.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > I don't feel sick, although my sinuses are sore.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > My energy is somewhat better, my usually low BP is

a little higher

> > >> and I'm having no notable detox symptoms.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > I am taking sea salt (1 tsp/day), selenium, Bs, C,

mag, etc.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > I didn't get an answer from the adrenal list. I

think when I

> > >> mentioned iodine they may have been derailed, but I didn't

bump the

> > >> question either.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Any ideas why my temp is high?

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Jaye

> > >> > >

> > >> >

> > >

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> >~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> >--A.J. Muste

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> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> --A.J. Muste

>

[Guest guest]

The Isocort had been prescribed at that level by my

acupuncturist/ND. During the period I took that much salt, I craved it and

it was no problem to ingest it. I had 1/2 tsp or more in large glasses of

water several times a day, plus a lot on food. I just naturally cut back

again once my adrenals were working better.

I definitely think it was high doses of iodine that helped me, which is why

I am skeptical of people who think it has to take years to recover. People

will not recover without iodine, so why wait? I think it's purely

theoretical and not demonstrated fact that the detox caused by iodine is

too harsh on the adrenals. If you don't start detoxing, the adrenals are

not going to heal, again, it's all connected.

It's a fact that Vit C and unrefined salt feed the adrenals. Since the

iodine protocol also requires those nutrients, to me they seem to be

obviously good to take all together.

I was not willing to listen to those who say adrenal exhaustion shouldn't

have iodine, because I'd already listened to that type of voice with the

Integrative Medicine MD I'd worked with and I knew that wasn't going to

work, because it already hadn't.

Oh-- btw, another great occurrence during that period of healing of my

adrenals is that my temps are up to proper levels. I'm not freezing cold

all winter and can never get warm like I lived for so long. It's a

different world.

--

>,

>

>2-3 months is a quick turn around for severely depleted adrenals!

>Congrats! If I recall Dr. thinks it can take up to 2 yrs

>for severe depletion. Do you credit higher doses of iodine for that? Or

>just a combo of all the supportive nutrients?

>

>How long did you use 1+ TBSP of unrefined salt during the adrenal healing

>period? (and how the heck did you get that much down?!? :-) ) How did

>you determine what amount of Isocort was right for you & your situation?

>

>

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > Hi

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > I have now 'hit' 50mg of iodine. Last week and this week so

> far, my

> > > >> usually sub-normal temps are above normal...around 99.

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > I don't feel sick, although my sinuses are sore.

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > My energy is somewhat better, my usually low BP is a little higher

> > > >> and I'm having no notable detox symptoms.

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > I am taking sea salt (1 tsp/day), selenium, Bs, C, mag, etc.

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > I didn't get an answer from the adrenal list. I think when I

> > > >> mentioned iodine they may have been derailed, but I didn't bump the

> > > >> question either.

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > Any ideas why my temp is high?

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > Jaye

> > > >> > >

> > > >> >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> > >--A.J. Muste

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> > --A.J. Muste

> >

>

>

>

>

>------------------------------------

>

>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

>group IodineOT/

>

>

>Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

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Yes! It's recommended to take at least 1 Tablespoon per day.

--V

At 04:57 PM 1/31/2011, you wrote:

>Does taking more of the unrefined salt help quicken the recovery time for

>the adrenals?

>

>Lori

>

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

I will have to increase my intake. I

actually like it anyway! I’m going to start sprinkling the fine Celtic

Sea Salt on my popcorn!!

Lori

RE: Re: Iodine

and temperatures

Yes! It's recommended to take at least 1 Tablespoon per day.

--V

At 04:57 PM 1/31/2011, you wrote:

>Does taking more of the unrefined salt help quicken the recovery time for

>the adrenals?

>

>Lori

>

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

what is isocort and what does it do

iodine From: vbaker@...Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 17:01:43 -0600Subject: Re: Re: Iodine and temperatures

I'll third that. I was treated for adrenal exhaustion by an Integrative Medicine MD, without iodine, for most of a year (she said my saliva test was the worst she'd ever seen). Nothing she did healed my situation (which included 3mg of iodine/day), just minimal change. Lost my insurance and couldn't consult with her anymore. Health crash forced me to look for solutions and found iodine. Started iodine and got advice on additional supplements for healing adrenals. Took extra unrefined salt (1+ tablespoon per day), extra Vit C, Vit E (1200iu/day), started Vit D3 every day (8000iu), plus Isocort (1-2 pellets per day). After 2-3 months of this, I had to stop the Isocort (adrenal glandular) because when I would take it, I would become overadrenalated.Since then, I can do my work for hours at a time and not crash constantly. I have energy to spare and have been doing music and performance with my partner, etc. Can go out and dance for hours. And also since then, have lost at least 20 pounds and not regaining.The body will not heal without iodine, so waiting until the adrenals are balanced is, imo, a bit foolish. It's like painting a picture and you need black paint, but you try to paint the whole thing without the black paint and you wait until the whole picture is finished before ever using any black paint. It's really hard to paint and leave all the spaces blank where the black is needed, and you'll probably have to go back in and add more color around all the places that you've now added the black paint. Better to have access to the whole palette. Imperfect analogy but I'm an artist so what can I say.Much of the modern epidemic of unwellness is the result of iodine deficiency, and without iodine there will be no healing.--VAt 10:35 AM 1/28/2011, you wrote:>I second that. Iodine was a key part of healing my adrenals. The Adrenal >group is biased against iodine due to the owner and she has her own issues >that are not addressed so she thinks it applies to everyone with a blanket >broad stroke - no iodine when there are adrenal issues.>>Steph>>> Re: Re: Iodine and temperatures>>>>I disagree, there are lots of folks that have taken iodine and healed >adrenal problems at the same time. You're not going to get informed >advice about iodine from the adrenal list.>>Linn>>On Jan 28, 2011, at 2:27 AM, dutchdivco wrote:>>>>>>>Jen, Taking iodine causes a detoxifying.Releasing those toxins increases >>stress on the adrenals.And, as you point out, it throws your temps off, >>which complicates the other things you are doing.>>Yes, iodine increses your temps, and may eventually mean you will need >>less NTH.>>You might want to consider putting the iodine on the shelf, for >>now.Concentrate on healing your adrenals, (so they can handle the >>detoxing stress) and working up to the 'right' dose of NTH. Then get the >>iodine back off the shelf.If it then causes a raise in temps, (after >>you've gotten them stabilised and at around 98.6), you can slightly >>reduce your NTH.Obviously, eventually you can wean off the adrenal >>support, and, perhaps wean of the NTH and just go with the Iodine. But >>thats way down the road, and you have to take >>it,....one,.....step,....at,....a,....time.Jim>>>>>> > >>> > > Hi>> > >>> > > I have now 'hit' 50mg of iodine. Last week and this week so far, my >> usually sub-normal temps are above normal...around 99.>> > >>> > > I don't feel sick, although my sinuses are sore.>> > >>> > > My energy is somewhat better, my usually low BP is a little higher >> and I'm having no notable detox symptoms.>> > >>> > > I am taking sea salt (1 tsp/day), selenium, Bs, C, mag, etc.>> > >>> > > I didn't get an answer from the adrenal list. I think when I >> mentioned iodine they may have been derailed, but I didn't bump the >> question either.>> > >>> > > Any ideas why my temp is high?>> > >>> > > Jaye>> > >>> >>>>>>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste

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It's an adrenal glandular supplement.

At 11:37 PM 1/31/2011, you wrote:

>what is isocort and what does it do

>

>

>----------

>iodine

>From: vbaker@...

>Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 17:01:43 -0600

>Subject: Re: Re: Iodine and temperatures

>

>

>I'll third that. I was treated for adrenal exhaustion by an Integrative

>Medicine MD, without iodine, for most of a year (she said my saliva test

>was the worst she'd ever seen). Nothing she did healed my situation (which

>included 3mg of iodine/day), just minimal change. Lost my insurance and

>couldn't consult with her anymore. Health crash forced me to look for

>solutions and found iodine. Started iodine and got advice on additional

>supplements for healing adrenals. Took extra unrefined salt (1+ tablespoon

>per day), extra Vit C, Vit E (1200iu/day), started Vit D3 every day

>(8000iu), plus Isocort (1-2 pellets per day). After 2-3 months of this, I

>had to stop the Isocort (adrenal glandular) because when I would take it, I

>would become overadrenalated.

>

>Since then, I can do my work for hours at a time and not crash

>constantly. I have energy to spare and have been doing music and

>performance with my partner, etc. Can go out and dance for hours. And

>also since then, have lost at least 20 pounds and not regaining.

>

>The body will not heal without iodine, so waiting until the adrenals are

>balanced is, imo, a bit foolish. It's like painting a picture and you need

>black paint, but you try to paint the whole thing without the black paint

>and you wait until the whole picture is finished before ever using any

>black paint. It's really hard to paint and leave all the spaces blank

>where the black is needed, and you'll probably have to go back in and add

>more color around all the places that you've now added the black

>paint. Better to have access to the whole palette. Imperfect analogy but

>I'm an artist so what can I say.

>

>Much of the modern epidemic of unwellness is the result of iodine

>deficiency, and without iodine there will be no healing.

>

>--V

>

>At 10:35 AM 1/28/2011, you wrote:

>

> >I second that. Iodine was a key part of healing my adrenals. The Adrenal

> >group is biased against iodine due to the owner and she has her own issues

> >that are not addressed so she thinks it applies to everyone with a blanket

> >broad stroke - no iodine when there are adrenal issues.

> >

> >Steph

> >

> >

> > Re: Re: Iodine and temperatures

> >

> >

> >

> >I disagree, there are lots of folks that have taken iodine and healed

> >adrenal problems at the same time. You're not going to get informed

> >advice about iodine from the adrenal list.

> >

> >Linn

> >

> >On Jan 28, 2011, at 2:27 AM, dutchdivco wrote:

> >

> >>

> >>

> >>Jen, Taking iodine causes a detoxifyin

>

>

>

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

Thanks for this reply ~ and if I may investigate further ...

If I recall correctly you found out about the iodine protocol from the LDN forum

and I am wondering where the specific adrenal support started ... sounds like

maybe after or during the iodine protocol? Where did the LDN start/stop in

this process?

What I am curious about here is how much the LDN might have influenced your

rapid turnaround and if one might be able to find similar results without

including LDN.

Of course each of us unique but often those who share similar afflictions also

share similar paths to healing so the pieces of puzzles are helpful to get the

big picture.

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > Hi

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > I have now 'hit' 50mg of iodine. Last week and this week so

> > far, my

> > > > >> usually sub-normal temps are above normal...around 99.

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > I don't feel sick, although my sinuses are sore.

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > My energy is somewhat better, my usually low BP is a little

higher

> > > > >> and I'm having no notable detox symptoms.

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > I am taking sea salt (1 tsp/day), selenium, Bs, C, mag, etc.

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > I didn't get an answer from the adrenal list. I think when I

> > > > >> mentioned iodine they may have been derailed, but I didn't bump the

> > > > >> question either.

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > Any ideas why my temp is high?

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > Jaye

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> > > >--A.J. Muste

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> > > --A.J. Muste

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >------------------------------------

> >

> >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

> >group IodineOT/

> >

> >

> >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

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Does the salt cause one to retain fluid? AnnOn 31-Jan-11, at 6:11 PM, Baker wrote:Yes! It's recommended to take at least 1 Tablespoon per day.--VAt 04:57 PM 1/31/2011, you wrote:>Does taking more of the unrefined salt help quicken the recovery time for >the adrenals?>>Lori>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste

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Not unrefined.

Steph

Re: Re: Iodine and temperatures

Does the salt cause one to retain fluid? Ann

On 31-Jan-11, at 6:11 PM, Baker wrote:

Yes! It's recommended to take at least 1 Tablespoon per day.--VAt 04:57 PM 1/31/2011, you wrote:>Does taking more of the unrefined salt help quicken the recovery time for >the adrenals?>>Lori>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste

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Why does unrefined salt act substantially different than table/refined salt ?Sent from my iPhone 4On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:04 PM, "ladybugsandbees" <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote:

Not unrefined.

Steph

Re: Re: Iodine and temperatures

Does the salt cause one to retain fluid? Ann

On 31-Jan-11, at 6:11 PM, Baker wrote:

Yes! It's recommended to take at least 1 Tablespoon per day.--VAt 04:57 PM 1/31/2011, you wrote:>Does taking more of the unrefined salt help quicken the recovery time for >the adrenals?>>Lori>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste