Re: Re: Started iodoral, now constipated.

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What brand is the liposomal vitamin c, please? And what brand is the topical mag chloride? Thanks!On Feb 17, 2011, at 12:53 PM, " baxrox " <baxrox@...> wrote:

 

Just some thoughts here ... what type of magnesium are you taking? Had you been supplementing with Mg before beginning the iodine protocol? Some are more bioavailable than others and 2,000 mg/day is a pretty hefty amount. You may have seen in past discussions that topical Mg chloride is actually a preferred route as it bypasses the digestive system. Nutricology also makes a USP liquid Mg chloride that would be immediately available when ingested though I wouldn't recommend this as long term way to supplement - but perhaps a way to help get the bowels moving with a product that is also providing bioavailable Mg.

If you started with a Mg deficiency you may be playing catch up and your body is using all that is available very rapidly. Mg deficiency is more common than most people realize. Unlike Vitamin C I don't think that extremely large doses would be advisable. You might do a search on this forum for posts that I made regarding Dr. Norm Shealy and Magnesium.

Also the type of Vitamin C ~ have you experimented with different types and also larger quantities during spells of constipation? Though your intake of 6,000 mg/day 'looks " like it should be adequate the need for Vitamin C truly is an individual thing and you may need much more, especially during this time.

Was it Linus ing who discussed ascorbic acid in referral to the type of condition = amount needed? I recall the references to the 100 gram cold which is the doses of Vitamin C needed to knock down a severe cold. I didn't save the origin but here is a quote " The astonishing finding was that all patients, tolerant of ascorbic acid, can take greater amounts of the substance orally without having diarrhea when ill or under stress. This increased tolerance is somewhat proportional to the toxicity of the disease being treated. " Then usual bowel tolerance doses are listed for different conditions.

In addition there is the new liposomal form of Vitamin C which goes directly to the liver for use by the body and bowel tolerance is not an issue.

Generally most everyone who begins Iodoral or Lugol's is going to see significant changes from their norm because if one has been operating in a deficiency then when iodine becomes available to the body, it changes and begins operating in a different manner. Like Vitamin C it appears that the amount of iodine needed is in proportion to the deficiency or illness being addressed. As you know the bowels are one of the detoxification pathways and perhaps whatever your body is changing is temporarily overwhelming this particular pathway.

If your condition has not changed at this point and increasing Vitamin C does not help perhaps check out Dr. Loretta Lanphier's website Oasis Advanced Wellness. She earned her expertise in bowel function the hard way ~ by surviving cancer ~ and has quite a bit of articles to peruse on her website. One product she talks about and supplies that may be of interest to you is called Mag 07 which looks to clear the colon but not supply Mg to the body nutritionally.

How confident are you that your gall bladder and liver were not sluggish prior to beginning the iodine protocol? I see that you are taking milk thistle which is great of course. I am just prompting you to explore your own thoughts about how well your body might be breaking down bile, etc... as you re-examine your detox pathways.

I have seen suggest to some that pulse dosing of Iodoral or Lugol's may benefit them and if one or more of your detox pathways are becoming sluggish pulse dosing may be something to consider.

You didn't mention using unrefined salt ... ??

> > >Hey all! I'm new to this group and have been

> > >lurking around the group to find some answers.

> > >About 3 weeks ago have been taking 12.5mg x2

> > >iodoral tablets a day. A week and a half later

> > >50mg tablet once a day and for four days 50mg x2.

> > >Trips to the comode have been lessening. Now I

> > >have upped my Mag to 2000mg a day and still I go

> > >a few times but cannot fully 'evacuate.' Along with

> > >this I am getting slight headaches, short temper,

> > >insomnia, and eye twitches. I have been supplementing

> > >with the following;

> > >

> > >-magnesium 500mg x3-4

> > >-selenium 100mg x2

> > >-B-Complex 50mg x3

> > >-vitamin c 2000mg x3

> > >-vitamin a 10,000 x2

> > >-zinc 50mg x2

> > >-milk thistle 350mg x3

> > >

> > >I eat tons of fresh veggies, no dairy, little meat,

> > >little to no gluten. Will this constipation improve

> > >if I up the dose? Should I lower the dose? Does mag

> > >oil help with constipation? Any help would be much

> > >appreciated.

> > >

> > >-

> >

> > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> > --A.J. Muste

> >

> >

>

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There are several lipsomal vitamin C products on the market. One is made by LivOn Labs, & you can Google it. However, it is pretty spendy, so I have been brewing my own at home. (You can email me off list for instructions, if you are interested.) The home-made version is probably less effective, but it is so cheap that you can afford to use a lot more of it.Topical magnesium chloride is also known as magnesium oil, & you can Google it that way. A lot of us are using the brand sold by Swanson's Vitamins.For what it is worth, if we have a constipation emergency at our house, we use Oxy-Powder (I am not affiliated with them, except as a grateful customer.) I swear the stuff could make a marble statue poop! Since we have been taking lipsomomal vitamin C, though, my son no longer complains of constipation. (So the cost of the LC is offset by the reduction in cost for the Oxy-Powder...)AnneOn Feb 17, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Soraya s wrote: What brand is the liposomal vitamin c, please? And what brand is the topical mag chloride? Thanks!On Feb 17, 2011, at 12:53 PM, "baxrox" <baxrox@...> wrote: Just some thoughts here ... what type of magnesium are you taking? Had you been supplementing with Mg before beginning the iodine protocol? Some are more bioavailable than others and 2,000 mg/day is a pretty hefty amount. You may have seen in past discussions that topical Mg chloride is actually a preferred route as it bypasses the digestive system. Nutricology also makes a USP liquid Mg chloride that would be immediately available when ingested though I wouldn't recommend this as long term way to supplement - but perhaps a way to help get the bowels moving with a product that is also providing bioavailable Mg. If you started with a Mg deficiency you may be playing catch up and your body is using all that is available very rapidly. Mg deficiency is more common than most people realize. Unlike Vitamin C I don't think that extremely large doses would be advisable. You might do a search on this forum for posts that I made regarding Dr. Norm Shealy and Magnesium. Also the type of Vitamin C ~ have you experimented with different types and also larger quantities during spells of constipation? Though your intake of 6,000 mg/day 'looks" like it should be adequate the need for Vitamin C truly is an individual thing and you may need much more, especially during this time. Was it Linus ing who discussed ascorbic acid in referral to the type of condition = amount needed? I recall the references to the 100 gram cold which is the doses of Vitamin C needed to knock down a severe cold. I didn't save the origin but here is a quote "The astonishing finding was that all patients, tolerant of ascorbic acid, can take greater amounts of the substance orally without having diarrhea when ill or under stress. This increased tolerance is somewhat proportional to the toxicity of the disease being treated." Then usual bowel tolerance doses are listed for different conditions. In addition there is the new liposomal form of Vitamin C which goes directly to the liver for use by the body and bowel tolerance is not an issue. Generally most everyone who begins Iodoral or Lugol's is going to see significant changes from their norm because if one has been operating in a deficiency then when iodine becomes available to the body, it changes and begins operating in a different manner. Like Vitamin C it appears that the amount of iodine needed is in proportion to the deficiency or illness being addressed. As you know the bowels are one of the detoxification pathways and perhaps whatever your body is changing is temporarily overwhelming this particular pathway. If your condition has not changed at this point and increasing Vitamin C does not help perhaps check out Dr. Loretta Lanphier's website Oasis Advanced Wellness. She earned her expertise in bowel function the hard way ~ by surviving cancer ~ and has quite a bit of articles to peruse on her website. One product she talks about and supplies that may be of interest to you is called Mag 07 which looks to clear the colon but not supply Mg to the body nutritionally. How confident are you that your gall bladder and liver were not sluggish prior to beginning the iodine protocol? I see that you are taking milk thistle which is great of course. I am just prompting you to explore your own thoughts about how well your body might be breaking down bile, etc... as you re-examine your detox pathways. I have seen suggest to some that pulse dosing of Iodoral or Lugol's may benefit them and if one or more of your detox pathways are becoming sluggish pulse dosing may be something to consider. You didn't mention using unrefined salt ... ?? > > >Hey all! I'm new to this group and have been > > >lurking around the group to find some answers. > > >About 3 weeks ago have been taking 12.5mg x2 > > >iodoral tablets a day. A week and a half later > > >50mg tablet once a day and for four days 50mg x2. > > >Trips to the comode have been lessening. Now I > > >have upped my Mag to 2000mg a day and still I go > > >a few times but cannot fully 'evacuate.' Along with > > >this I am getting slight headaches, short temper, > > >insomnia, and eye twitches. I have been supplementing > > >with the following; > > > > > >-magnesium 500mg x3-4 > > >-selenium 100mg x2 > > >-B-Complex 50mg x3 > > >-vitamin c 2000mg x3 > > >-vitamin a 10,000 x2 > > >-zinc 50mg x2 > > >-milk thistle 350mg x3 > > > > > >I eat tons of fresh veggies, no dairy, little meat, > > >little to no gluten. Will this constipation improve > > >if I up the dose? Should I lower the dose? Does mag > > >oil help with constipation? Any help would be much > > >appreciated. > > > > > >- > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > > --A.J. Muste > > > > >