Re: Tumors and iodine and pets

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More questions:

If we decide to give her iodine, should we treat both orally and topically? If

orally, how much should we give her? Should we use Iodoral or Lugol's? Is

there any concern with Lugol's on the ulcerated area (I'm guessing no since

iodine used to be used in wound treatment). Would there be any concern about

using too much iodine if we use both Iodoral and Lugol's?

If we use iodine, how soon would we know if it was helping?

Pamela

>

> I know this topic comes up from time to time. We have a 13 year old dog who

has had a growth on her abdomen for a couple of years that has been growing

slowly. Funds are tight and since it didn't appear to cause her any problems

and she didn't seem to be in pain, we didn't do anything about it. Until today,

when it became open in one spot and slowly seeped a small amount of bloody

liquid. She still does not appear to be in pain or uncomfortable at all but I

know that raw, open centimeter has to be painful to some degree. We've been

told to use hydrogen peroxide and an antibiotic ointment on it to prevent

infection.

>

> The vet says she has a mammary tumor(s). She does not know if it is malignant

or not and the biopsy would cost nearly $700. We do not have $700. The vet

also found several other much smaller tumors and she suspects that it is

malignant because of this and because of the .

>

> Is there any way that iodine can help Seneca since it is indicated for use in

breast cancer (and mammary tumors are breast tumors, after all)? Is it useful

only for prevention or for healing as well? She is 13 years old, 44 pounds and

we believe has allergies and possibly a yeast infection that leads to skin

problems from time to time and ear infections. We are feeding her the best dog

food we can afford (Kirkland dog food for weight control - no corn that I could

see in the ingredient list - something we try to avoid since it is a known

common allergen for dogs).

>

> Pamela

>

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Hi Pamela,

I have some experience with iodine on wounds. My husband is a diabetic

and will occasionally get a pressure wound on his leg from his

prosthesis. The last time this happened, I made some prosthetic

adjustments to relieve the pressure, got a small piece of paper towel,

folded it, saturated it with lugol's and taped it down with 3M paper

tape. After a bunch of years at this, I prefer a few layers of paper

towel to commercial gauze for wounds.

My husband suggested using iodine from some distant memory of using

iodine on wounds. We try different things. I buy lugol's locally from

the aquarium store. It is illegal to sell for human use without a

prescription in this state. And most pharmacists under the age of 50 or

so don't know what it is.

The wound tissue seemed to suck the red/brown lugol's out of the paper

towel. Only the tape had red stain remaining. The wound and the

simmering infection healed incredibly rapidly. Apparently, lugol's is a

bit rough on the skin because it formed a darker and thicker scab than

usual. Next time I will try to keep a layer of something like palm oil

on the skin and then the lugol's.

But with something like this, and your situation, what's going on

underneath in the deeper tissue is more, much, much more important than

the skin. If the tissue underneath is healed and happy, the skin will

heal quickly as a last step.

So many of the iodine preps for wound care have compounds that interfere

with absorption, I guess so that the wound doesn't get too much iodine?

Or doesn't damage the superficial tissue, the skin? I think they're

formulated considering the break in the skin as the primary issue with a

wound. Not my experience. The skin took a while to heal, but even

that, faster than usual for a diabetic. And the skin underneath the

scab was perfect.

When you use iodine this way, it doesn't evaporate off. So consider

that with your oral dosage. You should be able to tell what's happening

with the wound by watching the wound carefully for color, swelling etc.

And also pressing on it to check for changes in how the deeper tissue

feels. Feel for temperature. Infection and inflammation will feel

hotter than the surrounding tissue. Smell the wound or the dressing.

You're going for no smell. Infections are smelly. Those are the

indications doctors use to judge what is happening.

Can't get much cheaper than this for effective wound care. This was a

big wow. I feel a bit silly after having used all kinds of expensive

commercial and prescription preps that weren't as good and took much,

much longer to heal.

It's a bit hard to recommend something not being able to see your dog

and not knowing so much about dogs. But if you want to try this, I'd

start slow, small piece of paper towel or gauze, not too much iodine to

see what happens. I was dealing with someone who weighed 165 pounds,

Make adjustments for weight. Is a dog like a human with iodine? Do

some checking?

On 2/15/2011 1:03 AM, Pamela wrote:

> More questions:

>

> If we decide to give her iodine, should we treat both orally and topically?

If orally, how much should we give her? Should we use Iodoral or Lugol's? Is

there any concern with Lugol's on the ulcerated area (I'm guessing no since

iodine used to be used in wound treatment). Would there be any concern about

using too much iodine if we use both Iodoral and Lugol's?

>

> If we use iodine, how soon would we know if it was helping?

>

> Pamela

>

>

>> I know this topic comes up from time to time. We have a 13 year old dog who

has had a growth on her abdomen for a couple of years that has been growing

slowly. Funds are tight and since it didn't appear to cause her any problems

and she didn't seem to be in pain, we didn't do anything about it. Until today,

when it became open in one spot and slowly seeped a small amount of bloody

liquid. She still does not appear to be in pain or uncomfortable at all but I

know that raw, open centimeter has to be painful to some degree. We've been

told to use hydrogen peroxide and an antibiotic ointment on it to prevent

infection.

>>

>> The vet says she has a mammary tumor(s). She does not know if it is

malignant or not and the biopsy would cost nearly $700. We do not have $700.

The vet also found several other much smaller tumors and she suspects that it is

malignant because of this and because of the .

>>

>> Is there any way that iodine can help Seneca since it is indicated for use in

breast cancer (and mammary tumors are breast tumors, after all)? Is it useful

only for prevention or for healing as well? She is 13 years old, 44 pounds and

we believe has allergies and possibly a yeast infection that leads to skin

problems from time to time and ear infections. We are feeding her the best dog

food we can afford (Kirkland dog food for weight control - no corn that I could

see in the ingredient list - something we try to avoid since it is a known

common allergen for dogs).

>>

>> Pamela

>>

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How much would I use? Any idea how long it would be before we saw improvements?

Pamela

>

> There was someone on this list that was using iodine for cancer in their dog.

I don't know how much or what they did. But at this point it would be worth a

try for your pet.

>

> Steph

> Is there any way that iodine can help Seneca since it is indicated for use

in breast cancer (and mammary tumors are breast tumors, after all)? Is it useful

only for prevention or for healing as well? She is 13 years old, 44 pounds and

we believe has allergies and possibly a yeast infection that leads to skin

problems from time to time and ear infections. We are feeding her the best dog

food we can afford (Kirkland dog food for weight control - no corn that I could

see in the ingredient list - something we try to avoid since it is a known

common allergen for dogs).

>

> Pamela

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, . I'm trying to do more than heal a wound, though, so I'm not sure

topical treatment would be sufficient. You suggest doing some checking. I have

and came up empty. That's why I asked here. I knew this has been discussed

before and hoped somebody could point me to the appropriate threads because my

searches on are usually fruitless.

I will treat it topically. I just wanted to have a better understanding of what

to expect. Since we are trying to heal tumors (possibly malignant), what am I

looking for besides a decrease in size? Smelling - well, I have no sense of

smell (or very little). My daughter doesn't, either. So I can't rely on that

as a clue.

How does Lugol's from an aquarium store compare to Lugol's that is sold online?

Would it be safe to put in drinking water? Safe for humans?

Pamela

> >> I know this topic comes up from time to time. We have a 13 year old dog

who has had a growth on her abdomen for a couple of years that has been growing

slowly. Funds are tight and since it didn't appear to cause her any problems

and she didn't seem to be in pain, we didn't do anything about it. Until today,

when it became open in one spot and slowly seeped a small amount of bloody

liquid. She still does not appear to be in pain or uncomfortable at all but I

know that raw, open centimeter has to be painful to some degree. We've been

told to use hydrogen peroxide and an antibiotic ointment on it to prevent

infection.

> >>

> >> The vet says she has a mammary tumor(s). She does not know if it is

malignant or not and the biopsy would cost nearly $700. We do not have $700.

The vet also found several other much smaller tumors and she suspects that it is

malignant because of this and because of the .

> >>

> >> Is there any way that iodine can help Seneca since it is indicated for use

in breast cancer (and mammary tumors are breast tumors, after all)? Is it

useful only for prevention or for healing as well? She is 13 years old, 44

pounds and we believe has allergies and possibly a yeast infection that leads to

skin problems from time to time and ear infections. We are feeding her the best

dog food we can afford (Kirkland dog food for weight control - no corn that I

could see in the ingredient list - something we try to avoid since it is a known

common allergen for dogs).

> >>

> >> Pamela

> >>

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I don't know to be honest. How big is your dog?

Steph

Re: Tumors and iodine and pets

How much would I use? Any idea how long it would be before we saw improvements?Pamela>> There was someone on this list that was using iodine for cancer in their dog. I don't know how much or what they did. But at this point it would be worth a try for your pet. > > Steph> Is there any way that iodine can help Seneca since it is indicated for use in breast cancer (and mammary tumors are breast tumors, after all)? Is it useful only for prevention or for healing as well? She is 13 years old, 44 pounds and we believe has allergies and possibly a yeast infection that leads to skin problems from time to time and ear infections. We are feeding her the best dog food we can afford (Kirkland dog food for weight control - no corn that I could see in the ingredient list - something we try to avoid since it is a known common allergen for dogs).> > Pamela>

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Besides this, you can also try putting her on the Budwig diet (or at least consistently giving her the flaxseed oil/cottage cheese mixture which is the essence of the Budwig diet). There is a group for that (FlaxSeedOil2/) and pets are a commonly discussed subject.Good luck,(the other) Stephiodine From: prov31mom23@...Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 02:45:03 +0000Subject: Re: Tumors and iodine and pets

Thanks, . I'm trying to do more than heal a wound, though, so I'm not sure topical treatment would be sufficient. You suggest doing some checking. I have and came up empty. That's why I asked here. I knew this has been discussed before and hoped somebody could point me to the appropriate threads because my searches on are usually fruitless.

I will treat it topically. I just wanted to have a better understanding of what to expect. Since we are trying to heal tumors (possibly malignant), what am I looking for besides a decrease in size? Smelling - well, I have no sense of smell (or very little). My daughter doesn't, either. So I can't rely on that as a clue.

How does Lugol's from an aquarium store compare to Lugol's that is sold online? Would it be safe to put in drinking water? Safe for humans?

Pamela

> >> I know this topic comes up from time to time. We have a 13 year old dog who has had a growth on her abdomen for a couple of years that has been growing slowly. Funds are tight and since it didn't appear to cause her any problems and she didn't seem to be in pain, we didn't do anything about it. Until today, when it became open in one spot and slowly seeped a small amount of bloody liquid. She still does not appear to be in pain or uncomfortable at all but I know that raw, open centimeter has to be painful to some degree. We've been told to use hydrogen peroxide and an antibiotic ointment on it to prevent infection.

> >>

> >> The vet says she has a mammary tumor(s). She does not know if it is malignant or not and the biopsy would cost nearly $700. We do not have $700. The vet also found several other much smaller tumors and she suspects that it is malignant because of this and because of the .

> >>

> >> Is there any way that iodine can help Seneca since it is indicated for use in breast cancer (and mammary tumors are breast tumors, after all)? Is it useful only for prevention or for healing as well? She is 13 years old, 44 pounds and we believe has allergies and possibly a yeast infection that leads to skin problems from time to time and ear infections. We are feeding her the best dog food we can afford (Kirkland dog food for weight control - no corn that I could see in the ingredient list - something we try to avoid since it is a known common allergen for dogs).

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> >> Pamela

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44 lbs.

Pamela

> >

> > There was someone on this list that was using iodine for cancer in their

dog. I don't know how much or what they did. But at this point it would be worth

a try for your pet.

> >

> > Steph

>

> > Is there any way that iodine can help Seneca since it is indicated for use

in breast cancer (and mammary tumors are breast tumors, after all)? Is it useful

only for prevention or for healing as well? She is 13 years old, 44 pounds and

we believe has allergies and possibly a yeast infection that leads to skin

problems from time to time and ear infections. We are feeding her the best dog

food we can afford (Kirkland dog food for weight control - no corn that I could

see in the ingredient list - something we try to avoid since it is a known

common allergen for dogs).

> >

> > Pamela

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I would put baking soda on it if it is open and oozing. Along with iodine.

Joan

>

> I know this topic comes up from time to time. We have a 13 year old dog who

has had a growth on her abdomen for a couple of years that has been growing

slowly. Funds are tight and since it didn't appear to cause her any problems

and she didn't seem to be in pain, we didn't do anything about it. Until today,

when it became open in one spot and slowly seeped a small amount of bloody

liquid. She still does not appear to be in pain or uncomfortable at all but I

know that raw, open centimeter has to be painful to some degree. We've been

told to use hydrogen peroxide and an antibiotic ointment on it to prevent

infection.

>

> The vet says she has a mammary tumor(s). She does not know if it is malignant

or not and the biopsy would cost nearly $700. We do not have $700. The vet

also found several other much smaller tumors and she suspects that it is

malignant because of this and because of the .

>

> Is there any way that iodine can help Seneca since it is indicated for use in

breast cancer (and mammary tumors are breast tumors, after all)? Is it useful

only for prevention or for healing as well? She is 13 years old, 44 pounds and

we believe has allergies and possibly a yeast infection that leads to skin

problems from time to time and ear infections. We are feeding her the best dog

food we can afford (Kirkland dog food for weight control - no corn that I could

see in the ingredient list - something we try to avoid since it is a known

common allergen for dogs).

>

> Pamela

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Pamela,

I did a search on lugol's dog tumor or lugol's dogs on and didn't

come up with too much useful information except that lugol's is used for

dogs safely.

But one hit was Kent Marine Lugol's Solution - guaranteed analysis of

3,500 mg/oz. Does anyone know what that translates to?

Sorry I was kind of graphic and also obscure. Unlike the iodines meant

for wound care like betadine, Lugol's will penetrate and absorb deep.

Maybe to the tumor.

What to expect? I don't don't know but often tumors will swell a bit

first before they resolve.

On 2/15/2011 8:45 PM, Pamela wrote:

> Thanks, . I'm trying to do more than heal a wound, though, so I'm not

sure topical treatment would be sufficient. You suggest doing some checking. I

have and came up empty. That's why I asked here. I knew this has been

discussed before and hoped somebody could point me to the appropriate threads

because my searches on are usually fruitless.

>

> I will treat it topically. I just wanted to have a better understanding of

what to expect. Since we are trying to heal tumors (possibly malignant), what

am I looking for besides a decrease in size? Smelling - well, I have no sense

of smell (or very little). My daughter doesn't, either. So I can't rely on

that as a clue.

>

> How does Lugol's from an aquarium store compare to Lugol's that is sold

online? Would it be safe to put in drinking water? Safe for humans?

>

> Pamela

>

>

>>>> I know this topic comes up from time to time. We have a 13 year old dog

who has had a growth on her abdomen for a couple of years that has been growing

slowly. Funds are tight and since it didn't appear to cause her any problems

and she didn't seem to be in pain, we didn't do anything about it. Until today,

when it became open in one spot and slowly seeped a small amount of bloody

liquid. She still does not appear to be in pain or uncomfortable at all but I

know that raw, open centimeter has to be painful to some degree. We've been

told to use hydrogen peroxide and an antibiotic ointment on it to prevent

infection.

>>>>

>>>> The vet says she has a mammary tumor(s). She does not know if it is

malignant or not and the biopsy would cost nearly $700. We do not have $700.

The vet also found several other much smaller tumors and she suspects that it is

malignant because of this and because of the .

>>>>

>>>> Is there any way that iodine can help Seneca since it is indicated for use

in breast cancer (and mammary tumors are breast tumors, after all)? Is it

useful only for prevention or for healing as well? She is 13 years old, 44

pounds and we believe has allergies and possibly a yeast infection that leads to

skin problems from time to time and ear infections. We are feeding her the best

dog food we can afford (Kirkland dog food for weight control - no corn that I

could see in the ingredient list - something we try to avoid since it is a known

common allergen for dogs).

>>>>

>>>> Pamela

>>>>

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[Guest guest]

I agree-- Dr Simoncini uses baking soda and since there is an opening... it

can get inside.

At 44 pounds I would give your dog at least 50mg per day, up to 100mg

(corresponding to a 100-pound human taking 100to 200mg or more for

cancer). I would also suggest adding the companion nutrients.

You're not going to hurt her with the iodine, but only high doses are going

to affect the tumors. If you give her more than her body can use, it will

just be urinated out.

Be aggressive. Yes, iodine could help her. Please keep us posted.

--

>I would put baking soda on it if it is open and oozing. Along with iodine.

>

>Joan

>

>

> >

> > I know this topic comes up from time to time. We have a 13 year old

> dog who has had a growth on her abdomen for a couple of years that has

> been growing slowly. Funds are tight and since it didn't appear to cause

> her any problems and she didn't seem to be in pain, we didn't do anything

> about it. Until today, when it became open in one spot and slowly seeped

> a small amount of bloody liquid. She still does not appear to be in pain

> or uncomfortable at all but I know that raw, open centimeter has to be

> painful to some degree. We've been told to use hydrogen peroxide and an

> antibiotic ointment on it to prevent infection.

> >

> > The vet says she has a mammary tumor(s). She does not know if it is

> malignant or not and the biopsy would cost nearly $700. We do not have

> $700. The vet also found several other much smaller tumors and she

> suspects that it is malignant because of this and because of the .

> >

> > Is there any way that iodine can help Seneca since it is indicated for

> use in breast cancer (and mammary tumors are breast tumors, after

> all)? Is it useful only for prevention or for healing as well? She is

> 13 years old, 44 pounds and we believe has allergies and possibly a yeast

> infection that leads to skin problems from time to time and ear

> infections. We are feeding her the best dog food we can afford (Kirkland

> dog food for weight control - no corn that I could see in the ingredient

> list - something we try to avoid since it is a known common allergen for

dogs).

> >

> > Pamela

> >

>

>

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Try Shirley's Wellnes Cafe for info on using iodine with dogs. Also there's a

great product called K9 Immunity from Aloha Medicinals that I would highly

recommend for use with cancer in dogs.

Linn

> >

> > There was someone on this list that was using iodine for cancer in their

dog. I don't know how much or what they did. But at this point it would be

worth a try for your pet.

> >

> > Steph

>

>

> > Is there any way that iodine can help Seneca since it is indicated for use

in breast cancer (and mammary tumors are breast tumors, after all)? Is it useful

only for prevention or for healing as well? She is 13 years old, 44 pounds and

we believe has allergies and possibly a yeast infection that leads to skin

problems from time to time and ear infections. We are feeding her the best dog

food we can afford (Kirkland dog food for weight control - no corn that I could

see in the ingredient list - something we try to avoid since it is a known

common allergen for dogs).

> >

> > Pamela

> >

>

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Pamela,

I cured my dog's lung cancer last year. She's been back to the vet and they've

pronounced her a " miracle " ! But I was offended. I said it was not a miracle. It

was sound advice from many groups and applying everything I have learned from my

discussion groups and the internet and books. And, I don't know which part was

the real kicker, but I'll tell you all that I did. First, I gave her iodine

daily. (I added Lugol's drops to her water and a 12.5 Iodoral in hot dog). I

also sprinkled selenium on her food. Changed her food to homemade

meatloaf...lots of added oils, coconut oil, cod liver. The thing that I think

worked the best was the zapping (must read Hulda 's book " How to Cure

Advanced Cancer " or " How to Cure Cancer " and buy a $35 zapper). Supposedly the

zapper kills all parasites, fungi, viruses, bacteria that might be at the base

of the cancer/tumor problem. As far as applications directly to a tumor, I

would combine the iodine drops with DMSO (it helps to pull the medicine deeper).

You also might investigate MMS + DMSO. I also put my dog on 's parasite

cleanser which included Black Walnut hull with the iodine.

I felt like it was ok to try these things b/c the vet wanted my dog to be put to

sleep and made me feel like a horrible person for allowing my dog to suffer

through what would be a painful death. And, no, they did not apologize when

seeing her alive and frisky a year later. It was just a " miracle " . Miracles

require, I've learned, a lot of reading, sweat, and attention! I wouldn't give

up if I were you.

Best,

Deborah

> > >> I know this topic comes up from time to time. We have a 13 year old dog

who has had a growth on her abdomen for a couple of years that has been growing

slowly. Funds are tight and since it didn't appear to cause her any problems

and she didn't seem to be in pain, we didn't do anything about it. Until today,

when it became open in one spot and slowly seeped a small amount of bloody

liquid. She still does not appear to be in pain or uncomfortable at all but I

know that raw, open centimeter has to be painful to some degree. We've been

told to use hydrogen peroxide and an antibiotic ointment on it to prevent

infection.

> > >>

> > >> The vet says she has a mammary tumor(s). She does not know if it is

malignant or not and the biopsy would cost nearly $700. We do not have $700.

The vet also found several other much smaller tumors and she suspects that it is

malignant because of this and because of the .

> > >>

> > >> Is there any way that iodine can help Seneca since it is indicated for

use in breast cancer (and mammary tumors are breast tumors, after all)? Is it

useful only for prevention or for healing as well? She is 13 years old, 44

pounds and we believe has allergies and possibly a yeast infection that leads to

skin problems from time to time and ear infections. We are feeding her the best

dog food we can afford (Kirkland dog food for weight control - no corn that I

could see in the ingredient list - something we try to avoid since it is a known

common allergen for dogs).

> > >>

> > >> Pamela

> > >>

> > >

> > >

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> > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group

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I agree, I wouldn't give up either. We treated our dog naturally also and bought him an additional year. Had we known about the fluoride issue with our area water at the time, I think he would have made it. We had excessive fluoride in our water but were not warned about it immediately. We were giving him filtered water but that didn't get out the fluoride at the time. We also used iodine, Budwig diet, switched his food to mostly raw, some cooked meat, juiced for him, lots of supplements, Vit C, Vit E, tumeric, selenium, K-9 Immunity, etc. He went from looking like he was on death's door, wouldn't eat and losing lots of hair to great looking fur and acting like he was a young dog again for quite a while. The first thing I started him on was the cottage cheese and flax seed oil combo and carrot juice, he had started refusing food but he ate that and it made an immediate difference. I mixed all the supplements into his food and he never refused any of them. He also took to laying out in the sun a lot, I think he instinctively knew it was good for him. My oldest son came over one day about 6 months into the treatment and asked me to show him the science behind how I was treating the dog, what kind of proof did I have? I just looked at him and said, "The dog's still standing, isn't he?" I wouldn't hesitate to treat another dog. Had I known about the fluoride, I would have treated more aggressively with the iodine.LinnOn Feb 16, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Deborah H wrote:

Pamela,

I cured my dog's lung cancer last year. She's been back to the vet and they've pronounced her a "miracle"! But I was offended. I said it was not a miracle. It was sound advice from many groups and applying everything I have learned from my discussion groups and the internet and books. And, I don't know which part was the real kicker, but I'll tell you all that I did. First, I gave her iodine daily. (I added Lugol's drops to her water and a 12.5 Iodoral in hot dog). I also sprinkled selenium on her food. Changed her food to homemade meatloaf...lots of added oils, coconut oil, cod liver. The thing that I think worked the best was the zapping (must read Hulda 's book "How to Cure Advanced Cancer" or "How to Cure Cancer" and buy a $35 zapper). Supposedly the zapper kills all parasites, fungi, viruses, bacteria that might be at the base of the cancer/tumor problem. As far as applications directly to a tumor, I would combine the iodine drops with DMSO (it helps to pull the medicine deeper). You also might investigate MMS + DMSO. I also put my dog on 's parasite cleanser which included Black Walnut hull with the iodine.

I felt like it was ok to try these things b/c the vet wanted my dog to be put to sleep and made me feel like a horrible person for allowing my dog to suffer through what would be a painful death. And, no, they did not apologize when seeing her alive and frisky a year later. It was just a "miracle". Miracles require, I've learned, a lot of reading, sweat, and attention! I wouldn't give up if I were you.

Best,

Deborah

> > >> I know this topic comes up from time to time. We have a 13 year old dog who has had a growth on her abdomen for a couple of years that has been growing slowly. Funds are tight and since it didn't appear to cause her any problems and she didn't seem to be in pain, we didn't do anything about it. Until today, when it became open in one spot and slowly seeped a small amount of bloody liquid. She still does not appear to be in pain or uncomfortable at all but I know that raw, open centimeter has to be painful to some degree. We've been told to use hydrogen peroxide and an antibiotic ointment on it to prevent infection.

> > >>

> > >> The vet says she has a mammary tumor(s). She does not know if it is malignant or not and the biopsy would cost nearly $700. We do not have $700. The vet also found several other much smaller tumors and she suspects that it is malignant because of this and because of the .

> > >>

> > >> Is there any way that iodine can help Seneca since it is indicated for use in breast cancer (and mammary tumors are breast tumors, after all)? Is it useful only for prevention or for healing as well? She is 13 years old, 44 pounds and we believe has allergies and possibly a yeast infection that leads to skin problems from time to time and ear infections. We are feeding her the best dog food we can afford (Kirkland dog food for weight control - no corn that I could see in the ingredient list - something we try to avoid since it is a known common allergen for dogs).

> > >>

> > >> Pamela

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/

> > >

> > >

> > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

I have heard that you should not give dogs Cod Liver Oil, but use

any MIX of other fish oils like sardines, etc. I buy the huge

bottle of fish oil from Costco in capsules and give it to my dog

once a day as a treat. He is only 14 pounds.

laura

On 2/16/2011 8:21 AM, Deborah H wrote:

Pamela,

I cured my dog's lung cancer last year. She's been back to

the vet and they've pronounced her a "miracle"! But I was

offended. I said it was not a miracle. It was sound advice

from many groups and applying everything I have learned

from my discussion groups and the internet and books. And,

I don't know which part was the real kicker, but I'll tell

you all that I did. First, I gave her iodine daily. (I

added Lugol's drops to her water and a 12.5 Iodoral in hot

dog). I also sprinkled selenium on her food. Changed her

food to homemade meatloaf...lots of added oils, coconut

oil, cod liver. The thing that I think worked the best was

the zapping (must read Hulda 's book "How to Cure

Advanced Cancer" or "How to Cure Cancer" and buy a $35

zapper). Supposedly the zapper kills all parasites, fungi,

viruses, bacteria that might be at the base of the

cancer/tumor problem. As far as applications directly to a

tumor, I would combine the iodine drops with DMSO (it

helps to pull the medicine deeper). You also might

investigate MMS + DMSO. I also put my dog on 's

parasite cleanser which included Black Walnut hull with

the iodine.

I felt like it was ok to try these things b/c the vet

wanted my dog to be put to sleep and made me feel like a

horrible person for allowing my dog to suffer through what

would be a painful death. And, no, they did not apologize

when seeing her alive and frisky a year later. It was just

a "miracle". Miracles require, I've learned, a lot of

reading, sweat, and attention! I wouldn't give up if I

were you.

Best,

Deborah

> > >> I know this topic comes up from time to

time. We have a 13 year old dog who has had a growth on

her abdomen for a couple of years that has been growing

slowly. Funds are tight and since it didn't appear to

cause her any problems and she didn't seem to be in pain,

we didn't do anything about it. Until today, when it

became open in one spot and slowly seeped a small amount

of bloody liquid. She still does not appear to be in pain

or uncomfortable at all but I know that raw, open

centimeter has to be painful to some degree. We've been

told to use hydrogen peroxide and an antibiotic ointment

on it to prevent infection.

> > >>

> > >> The vet says she has a mammary

tumor(s). She does not know if it is malignant or not and

the biopsy would cost nearly $700. We do not have $700.

The vet also found several other much smaller tumors and

she suspects that it is malignant because of this and

because of the .

> > >>

> > >> Is there any way that iodine can help

Seneca since it is indicated for use in breast cancer (and

mammary tumors are breast tumors, after all)? Is it useful

only for prevention or for healing as well? She is 13

years old, 44 pounds and we believe has allergies and

possibly a yeast infection that leads to skin problems

from time to time and ear infections. We are feeding her

the best dog food we can afford (Kirkland dog food for

weight control - no corn that I could see in the

ingredient list - something we try to avoid since it is a

known common allergen for dogs).

> > >>

> > >> Pamela

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > > All off topic posts should go to the

IodineOT group IodineOT/

> > >

> > >

> > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

Thanks, . I don't have any Lugol's on hand at the moment so i went to the

drugstore and bought de-colorized iodine. I was surprised to find it is alcohol

45% denatured with ammonia, ammonium and Potassium Iodides. I will be getting

Lugol's but figured it doesn't hurt to start with this until the Lugol's

arrives. How often should I apply it? Others are suggesting baking soda, too.

Do I just dust it on the tumor? I figured I could apply the iodine and then the

baking soda when the iodine had dried?

Pamela

>

> Hi Pamela,

>

> I did a search on lugol's dog tumor or lugol's dogs on and didn't

> come up with too much useful information except that lugol's is used for

> dogs safely.

>

> But one hit was Kent Marine Lugol's Solution - guaranteed analysis of

> 3,500 mg/oz. Does anyone know what that translates to?

[Guest guest]

, should I start with a lower dose and build up to 50 mg? I ask because

when I started taking Lugol's I had a hard time with it at a certain dose (well

under 50 mg). Some suggested it was detox or that I might need more but I had

anxiety attacks, air hunger and other problems that I don't associate with

detox. Just don't want to cause her undue stress - I figure she's going through

a lot already and not complaining at all.

Pamela

> > >

> > > I know this topic comes up from time to time. We have a 13 year old

> > dog who has had a growth on her abdomen for a couple of years that has

> > been growing slowly. Funds are tight and since it didn't appear to cause

> > her any problems and she didn't seem to be in pain, we didn't do anything

> > about it. Until today, when it became open in one spot and slowly seeped

> > a small amount of bloody liquid. She still does not appear to be in pain

> > or uncomfortable at all but I know that raw, open centimeter has to be

> > painful to some degree. We've been told to use hydrogen peroxide and an

> > antibiotic ointment on it to prevent infection.

> > >

> > > The vet says she has a mammary tumor(s). She does not know if it is

> > malignant or not and the biopsy would cost nearly $700. We do not have

> > $700. The vet also found several other much smaller tumors and she

> > suspects that it is malignant because of this and because of the .

> > >

> > > Is there any way that iodine can help Seneca since it is indicated for

> > use in breast cancer (and mammary tumors are breast tumors, after

> > all)? Is it useful only for prevention or for healing as well? She is

> > 13 years old, 44 pounds and we believe has allergies and possibly a yeast

> > infection that leads to skin problems from time to time and ear

> > infections. We are feeding her the best dog food we can afford (Kirkland

> > dog food for weight control - no corn that I could see in the ingredient

> > list - something we try to avoid since it is a known common allergen for

dogs).

> > >

> > > Pamela

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >------------------------------------

> >

> >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

> >group IodineOT/

> >

> >

> >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

I would NOT put alcohol tincture on the wound, particularly not when it

also has ammonia etc. That is not for internal use. Ammonia would do

NOTHING good. Plus, ammonia and baking soda is a home chemical combination

that opens drains. DEFINITELY not the action you're looking for in this

wound. If you don't want to wait, buy some Betadine generic type at the

drugstore to use until the Lugol's arrives. But it's not healthy in the

way that Lugol's is either, so you want to get the Lugol's asap. Do not

use the product you bought in the wound, please. The alcohol and the

ammonia will just damage the tissues, not do any healing. Particularly if

baking soda is added.

You can get Lugol's from ebay, 8 oz of 2% for $8 plus a $4.42 shipping.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lugols-solution-4-fl-oz-2-2-iodine-/320494213873?pt=LH_Defau\

ltDomain_0 & hash=item4a9ef19af1

You can also buy the crystals (2 diff types) to make Lugol's yourself. I

can furnish you a recipe for strong 10% Lugol's that is recommended for

cancer. You'd need to buy both iodine crystals and potassium iodide

crystals. Actually here is the recipe for 10%, so you can see the

quantities you'd want to buy. You can cut this recipe in half if you want

to. All amounts would be cut in half. But, you need a scale to weigh the

crystals, a good one costs about $35. If you don't want to do those

things, you can buy the 5% from the ebay seller instead of the 2%, a

stronger mix so each drop is more than twice as powerful. If you click the

" see other items " under the " Seller Info " heading at the upper righthand

side of the link I posted, you can see what else he is selling.

10% RECIPE:

To prepare a 10% LUGOL'S SOLUTION, the ratios of the elements change

somewhat, since elemental iodine is not very soluble in water (it is more

soluble in alcohol). Thus, a higher percentage of KI is needed.

1. Put 118 ml (4 fl. oz.) of distilled water in a dark glass container.

2. Mix 33.7 grams (1.18 oz.) of potassium iodide into the solution prepared

in step one. Use a wooden or plastic spoon to stir--do not use metal! Stir

until completely mixed.

3. Add 16.9 grams of iodine crystals to the mix, being very careful not to

touch the iodine crystals--they can burn the skin. If you come into contact

with the iodine crystals, wash your hands immediately with plenty of water.

Stir with the wooden or plastic spoon, and cover with a non-metal cover.

Let it sit overnight.

In the morning, stir once more or shake the solution. You now have a 10%

Lugol's solution, which can be taken internally or externally. If you

choose to take the solution internally, note that the concentration is

approximately 25.5 mg/drop! (Assuming the drop size is such that 70 drops

make up 1 teaspoon).

==============================

The recipe is from /Israel.

--

At 10:22 PM 2/16/2011, you wrote:

>Thanks, . I don't have any Lugol's on hand at the moment so i went

>to the drugstore and bought de-colorized iodine. I was surprised to find

>it is alcohol 45% denatured with ammonia, ammonium and Potassium

>Iodides. I will be getting Lugol's but figured it doesn't hurt to start

>with this until the Lugol's arrives. How often should I apply it? Others

>are suggesting baking soda, too. Do I just dust it on the tumor? I

>figured I could apply the iodine and then the baking soda when the iodine

>had dried?

>

>Pamela

>

>

> >

> > Hi Pamela,

> >

> > I did a search on lugol's dog tumor or lugol's dogs on and didn't

> > come up with too much useful information except that lugol's is used for

> > dogs safely.

> >

> > But one hit was Kent Marine Lugol's Solution - guaranteed analysis of

> > 3,500 mg/oz. Does anyone know what that translates to?

>

>

>

>------------------------------------

>

>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

>group IodineOT/

>

>

>Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

Sure, start lower, but you'll want to build up quickly. Just monitor her

pulse and behavior.

--V

At 10:26 PM 2/16/2011, you wrote:

>, should I start with a lower dose and build up to 50 mg? I ask

>because when I started taking Lugol's I had a hard time with it at a

>certain dose (well under 50 mg). Some suggested it was detox or that I

>might need more but I had anxiety attacks, air hunger and other problems

>that I don't associate with detox. Just don't want to cause her undue

>stress - I figure she's going through a lot already and not complaining at all.

>

>Pamela

>

>

> > > >

> > > > I know this topic comes up from time to time. We have a 13 year old

> > > dog who has had a growth on her abdomen for a couple of years that has

> > > been growing slowly. Funds are tight and since it didn't appear to

> cause

> > > her any problems and she didn't seem to be in pain, we didn't do

> anything

> > > about it. Until today, when it became open in one spot and slowly

> seeped

> > > a small amount of bloody liquid. She still does not appear to be in

> pain

> > > or uncomfortable at all but I know that raw, open centimeter has to be

> > > painful to some degree. We've been told to use hydrogen peroxide and an

> > > antibiotic ointment on it to prevent infection.

> > > >

> > > > The vet says she has a mammary tumor(s). She does not know if it is

> > > malignant or not and the biopsy would cost nearly $700. We do not have

> > > $700. The vet also found several other much smaller tumors and she

> > > suspects that it is malignant because of this and because of the .

> > > >

> > > > Is there any way that iodine can help Seneca since it is indicated for

> > > use in breast cancer (and mammary tumors are breast tumors, after

> > > all)? Is it useful only for prevention or for healing as well? She is

> > > 13 years old, 44 pounds and we believe has allergies and possibly a

> yeast

> > > infection that leads to skin problems from time to time and ear

> > > infections. We are feeding her the best dog food we can afford

> (Kirkland

> > > dog food for weight control - no corn that I could see in the ingredient

> > > list - something we try to avoid since it is a known common allergen

> for dogs).

> > > >

> > > > Pamela

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >------------------------------------

> > >

> > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

> > >group IodineOT/

> > >

> > >

> > >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

So, do I toss the iodine I bought today? It has a stick (I thought it would be

a brush) applicator that I used to apply it to her once this evening. Would it

be not good to use for other topical applications now? Could I use it on

another lump (soft and much smaller) that I found?

As for making my own Lugol's - where would I get the crystals? And again, how

often would I apply this to her? I have the dropper from an empty bottle of

Lugol's 2% that I bought from J. Crow's. The website says " LUGOL'S 5%: Each

VERTICAL drop is about 6.25 mg of iodine. (The correct way to make a drop is to

hold the dropper vertical and squeeze the rubber topper) HORIZONTAL drops - when

the dropper is held side to side there is twice as much iodine per drop.

Approximately 12.5 mg

LUGOL'S 2%: Approximately 1/2 half the above measurements " So it sounds like

the 10% solution would measure as you suggest using this dropper assuming that

the drops you mention are from a horizontal dropper.

I intend to buy both Iodoral and Lugol's - the Iodoral will be given in a soft

food and a bit of Lugol's in her water (which is shared with 4 other animals -

two dogs and two cats - I figure it can't hurt them!) I will also paint the

Lugol's on her tumors.

Why is the 10% recommended for cancer? If we are talking 50 mg, isn't 50 mg

just 50 mg regardless of the strength of the iodine? It's just a matter of

number of drops or tablets. Or am I missing something?

Pamela

>

>

> I would NOT put alcohol tincture on the wound, particularly not when it

> also has ammonia etc. That is not for internal use. Ammonia would do

> NOTHING good. Plus, ammonia and baking soda is a home chemical combination

> that opens drains. DEFINITELY not the action you're looking for in this

> wound. If you don't want to wait, buy some Betadine generic type at the

> drugstore to use until the Lugol's arrives. But it's not healthy in the

> way that Lugol's is either, so you want to get the Lugol's asap. Do not

> use the product you bought in the wound, please. The alcohol and the

> ammonia will just damage the tissues, not do any healing. Particularly if

> baking soda is added.

>

> You can get Lugol's from ebay, 8 oz of 2% for $8 plus a $4.42 shipping.

>

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lugols-solution-4-fl-oz-2-2-iodine-/320494213873?pt=LH_Defau\

ltDomain_0 & hash=item4a9ef19af1

>

> You can also buy the crystals (2 diff types) to make Lugol's yourself. I

> can furnish you a recipe for strong 10% Lugol's that is recommended for

> cancer. You'd need to buy both iodine crystals and potassium iodide

> crystals. Actually here is the recipe for 10%, so you can see the

> quantities you'd want to buy. You can cut this recipe in half if you want

> to. All amounts would be cut in half. But, you need a scale to weigh the

> crystals, a good one costs about $35. If you don't want to do those

> things, you can buy the 5% from the ebay seller instead of the 2%, a

> stronger mix so each drop is more than twice as powerful. If you click the

> " see other items " under the " Seller Info " heading at the upper righthand

> side of the link I posted, you can see what else he is selling.

>

> 10% RECIPE:

> To prepare a 10% LUGOL'S SOLUTION, the ratios of the elements change

> somewhat, since elemental iodine is not very soluble in water (it is more

> soluble in alcohol). Thus, a higher percentage of KI is needed.

>

> 1. Put 118 ml (4 fl. oz.) of distilled water in a dark glass container.

> 2. Mix 33.7 grams (1.18 oz.) of potassium iodide into the solution prepared

> in step one. Use a wooden or plastic spoon to stir--do not use metal! Stir

> until completely mixed.

> 3. Add 16.9 grams of iodine crystals to the mix, being very careful not to

> touch the iodine crystals--they can burn the skin. If you come into contact

> with the iodine crystals, wash your hands immediately with plenty of water.

> Stir with the wooden or plastic spoon, and cover with a non-metal cover.

> Let it sit overnight.

>

> In the morning, stir once more or shake the solution. You now have a 10%

> Lugol's solution, which can be taken internally or externally. If you

> choose to take the solution internally, note that the concentration is

> approximately 25.5 mg/drop! (Assuming the drop size is such that 70 drops

> make up 1 teaspoon).

> ==============================

> The recipe is from /Israel.

>

> --

[Guest guest]

Concerning companion supplements - how much do I give her considering she weighs

only 44 lbs? Are any of them contraindicated for dogs?

Pamela, making my list and planning our treatment so I can sit down with my

daughter tomorrow and go over it with her.

[Guest guest]

Hi Pamela,

Don't use this. It will be too rough on the tissue and ammonia is just

bad all around.

Do you have an aquarium store or pet shop that specializes in salt water

fish near you? The store I buy from keeps it behind the counter for

some reason. I don't know if agricultural stores or saddlery stores

would have a similar iodine solution, but they might. It might be safe

to say you are using lugol's or an iodine solution on a dog but don't

mention using it on yourself.

I've found red colored palm oil to be quite good on wounds, coconut oil

if you can't find palm oil You could mix it with a good quality

lavender oil (helps kill germs, absorbs deep) to use until the lugol's

shows up.

On 2/16/2011 10:22 PM, Pamela wrote:

> Thanks, . I don't have any Lugol's on hand at the moment so i went to

the drugstore and bought de-colorized iodine. I was surprised to find it is

alcohol 45% denatured with ammonia, ammonium and Potassium Iodides. I will be

getting Lugol's but figured it doesn't hurt to start with this until the Lugol's

arrives. How often should I apply it? Others are suggesting baking soda, too.

Do I just dust it on the tumor? I figured I could apply the iodine and then the

baking soda when the iodine had dried?

>

> Pamela

>

>

>> Hi Pamela,

>>

>> I did a search on lugol's dog tumor or lugol's dogs on and didn't

>> come up with too much useful information except that lugol's is used for

>> dogs safely.

>>

>> But one hit was Kent Marine Lugol's Solution - guaranteed analysis of

>> 3,500 mg/oz. Does anyone know what that translates to?

>

[Guest guest]

At 11:12 PM 2/16/2011, you wrote:

>So, do I toss the iodine I bought today? It has a stick (I thought it

>would be a brush) applicator that I used to apply it to her once this

>evening. Would it be not good to use for other topical applications

>now? Could I use it on another lump (soft and much smaller) that I found?

With it having alcohol and ammonia I wouldn't use it for anything,

personally. Sorry!

>As for making my own Lugol's - where would I get the crystals?

The link in my email to the guy on ebay, he also sells the crystals. I

explained about how to find his other offerings in my previous post, by

going to " see other listings " below the Seller Info. But it sounds like

you might be better off just buying the Lugol's.

> And again, how often would I apply this to her?

You can apply it several times a day if you want. At least twice.

>I have the dropper from an empty bottle of Lugol's 2% that I bought from

>J. Crow's. The website says " LUGOL'S 5%: Each VERTICAL drop is about 6.25

>mg of iodine. (The correct way to make a drop is to hold the dropper

>vertical and squeeze the rubber topper) HORIZONTAL drops - when the

>dropper is held side to side there is twice as much iodine per drop.

>Approximately 12.5 mg

>LUGOL'S 2%: Approximately 1/2 half the above measurements " So it sounds

>like the 10% solution would measure as you suggest using this dropper

>assuming that the drops you mention are from a horizontal dropper.

I'm not exactly following you here. One vertical drop of 10% Lugol's would

be about 12.5mg. We just talk about vertical drops here.

>I intend to buy both Iodoral and Lugol's - the Iodoral will be given in a

>soft food and a bit of Lugol's in her water (which is shared with 4 other

>animals - two dogs and two cats - I figure it can't hurt them!) I will

>also paint the Lugol's on her tumors.

>

>Why is the 10% recommended for cancer? If we are talking 50 mg, isn't 50

>mg just 50 mg regardless of the strength of the iodine? It's just a

>matter of number of drops or tablets. Or am I missing something?

You should give her 50 to 100 mg internally, plus more directly in/on the

wound. The reason the 10% is recommended for skin cancer is because each

drop is very concentrated, so it's stronger, more powerful. However, it

sounds to me like the complexity of trying to make your own might be too

much, given what you're already dealing with. The ebay seller that I've

been buying from used to have 5% Lugol's for sale, but doesn't have any

posted for sale right now. I have messaged him with the question of

whether he still sells 5%, and will report here as soon as I hear anything.

hope this helps.

--

>Pamela

>

>

> >

> >

> > I would NOT put alcohol tincture on the wound, particularly not when it

> > also has ammonia etc. That is not for internal use. Ammonia would do

> > NOTHING good. Plus, ammonia and baking soda is a home chemical

> combination

> > that opens drains. DEFINITELY not the action you're looking for in this

> > wound. If you don't want to wait, buy some Betadine generic type at the

> > drugstore to use until the Lugol's arrives. But it's not healthy in the

> > way that Lugol's is either, so you want to get the Lugol's asap. Do not

> > use the product you bought in the wound, please. The alcohol and the

> > ammonia will just damage the tissues, not do any healing. Particularly if

> > baking soda is added.

> >

> > You can get Lugol's from ebay, 8 oz of 2% for $8 plus a $4.42 shipping.

> >

>

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lugols-solution-4-fl-oz-2-2-iodine-/320494213873?pt=LH_Defau\

ltDomain_0 & hash=item4a9ef19af1

> >

> > You can also buy the crystals (2 diff types) to make Lugol's yourself. I

> > can furnish you a recipe for strong 10% Lugol's that is recommended for

> > cancer. You'd need to buy both iodine crystals and potassium iodide

> > crystals. Actually here is the recipe for 10%, so you can see the

> > quantities you'd want to buy. You can cut this recipe in half if you want

> > to. All amounts would be cut in half. But, you need a scale to weigh the

> > crystals, a good one costs about $35. If you don't want to do those

> > things, you can buy the 5% from the ebay seller instead of the 2%, a

> > stronger mix so each drop is more than twice as powerful. If you click

> the

> > " see other items " under the " Seller Info " heading at the upper righthand

> > side of the link I posted, you can see what else he is selling.

> >

> > 10% RECIPE:

> > To prepare a 10% LUGOL'S SOLUTION, the ratios of the elements change

> > somewhat, since elemental iodine is not very soluble in water (it is more

> > soluble in alcohol). Thus, a higher percentage of KI is needed.

> >

> > 1. Put 118 ml (4 fl. oz.) of distilled water in a dark glass container.

> > 2. Mix 33.7 grams (1.18 oz.) of potassium iodide into the solution

> prepared

> > in step one. Use a wooden or plastic spoon to stir--do not use metal! Stir

> > until completely mixed.

> > 3. Add 16.9 grams of iodine crystals to the mix, being very careful not to

> > touch the iodine crystals--they can burn the skin. If you come into

> contact

> > with the iodine crystals, wash your hands immediately with plenty of

> water.

> > Stir with the wooden or plastic spoon, and cover with a non-metal cover.

> > Let it sit overnight.

> >

> > In the morning, stir once more or shake the solution. You now have a 10%

> > Lugol's solution, which can be taken internally or externally. If you

> > choose to take the solution internally, note that the concentration is

> > approximately 25.5 mg/drop! (Assuming the drop size is such that 70 drops

> > make up 1 teaspoon).

> > ==============================

> > The recipe is from /Israel.

> >

> > --

>

>

>

>------------------------------------

>

>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

>group IodineOT/

>

>

>Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

None of the supplements are counterindicated in dogs, they need them

all. I would give half the recommended amounts, so 100mcg for selenium

instead of 200mcg. And so forth.

My dog gets 50mcg a day for his skin and he's only 23 pounds, prescribed by

vet. So 100mcg will be fine for your 44 pound dog.

You might also consider giving her zinc at 25mg day.

has been treating her dog for cancer, I believe, and might have some

thoughts to share.

hope this helps,

--

>Concerning companion supplements - how much do I give her considering she

>weighs only 44 lbs? Are any of them contraindicated for dogs?

>

>Pamela, making my list and planning our treatment so I can sit down with

>my daughter tomorrow and go over it with her.

>

>

>

>------------------------------------

>

>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

>group IodineOT/

>

>

>Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

Yes, Pamela, you can get Lugol's at aquarium stores. It would be fastest

not to have to wait for shipping. Don't tell them what you need it for,

just ask for it. It's safe for humans but don't mention it. They will

assume you have fish.

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At 12:25 AM 2/17/2011, you wrote:

> Hi Pamela,

>

>Don't use this. It will be too rough on the tissue and ammonia is just

>bad all around.

>

>Do you have an aquarium store or pet shop that specializes in salt water

>fish near you? The store I buy from keeps it behind the counter for

>some reason. I don't know if agricultural stores or saddlery stores

>would have a similar iodine solution, but they might. It might be safe

>to say you are using lugol's or an iodine solution on a dog but don't

>mention using it on yourself.

>

>I've found red colored palm oil to be quite good on wounds, coconut oil

>if you can't find palm oil You could mix it with a good quality

>lavender oil (helps kill germs, absorbs deep) to use until the lugol's

>shows up.

>

>

>

>On 2/16/2011 10:22 PM, Pamela wrote:

> > Thanks, . I don't have any Lugol's on hand at the moment so i

> went to the drugstore and bought de-colorized iodine. I was surprised to

> find it is alcohol 45% denatured with ammonia, ammonium and Potassium

> Iodides. I will be getting Lugol's but figured it doesn't hurt to start

> with this until the Lugol's arrives. How often should I apply

> it? Others are suggesting baking soda, too. Do I just dust it on the

> tumor? I figured I could apply the iodine and then the baking soda when

> the iodine had dried?

> >

> > Pamela

> >

> >

> >> Hi Pamela,

> >>

> >> I did a search on lugol's dog tumor or lugol's dogs on and didn't

> >> come up with too much useful information except that lugol's is used for

> >> dogs safely.

> >>

> >> But one hit was Kent Marine Lugol's Solution - guaranteed analysis of

> >> 3,500 mg/oz. Does anyone know what that translates to?

> >

>

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I wouldn't do the companion nutrients. I would give her a doggie antioxidant. I used one with a green and blue label that came from Amazon.com for my dog when he got his rabies shot. It was a powdered capsule that I could sprinkle over the food.

Steph

Re: Tumors and iodine and pets

Concerning companion supplements - how much do I give her considering she weighs only 44 lbs? Are any of them contraindicated for dogs?Pamela, making my list and planning our treatment so I can sit down with my daughter tomorrow and go over it with her.