Re: Re: Not Sure What Happened To Me

February 16, 2011

Thanks, Dianne. I'm completely committed to the nattokinase, and

also looking into serropeptase, but any supportive info like this is

very encouraging.

On 2/16/2011 7:21 AM, Dianne wrote:

I know of a few people who disolved blood clots. they

used Both the nattokinase and the serropeptase together.

>

> Warning: Very long post.

>

> Background: Was taking 125 mg Lugol's topically,

mixed with castor oil, in an alternate day pulsing mode,

when the following ordeal began. I went off the Lugol's

right away, not sure this was a detox, but afraid to add

any possible fuel to the fire. I began my topical

application again as indicated below.

>

> Note: I've not seen any posts on this forum for the

last three weeks, so don't know if I missed something that

might be pertinent to the material below.

>

> Sat, Jan 22 – the day before had been great, and I

was finally getting back to full strength after my three

week detox in December. But Saturday started with a sudden

swelling of lymph glands on the left front of the neck,

down to the breastbone. Over the next week, the impacted

glands grew enormous and grotesque looking and painful and

were accompanied by a fever ranging from 101 to 102 which

never broke, not even in the middle of the night or early

morning. (As usual, though I was unable to sweat during

this time.)

>

> Mon 1/30 – After nine days, the swelling spread down

to the elbow of my left arm which caused me further pain

and alarm and that night I went to an ER. There I accepted

the blood tests and ultrasound but refused the cat scan

(involving x-rays and an intravenous dye). The test

results indicated an extended blood clot which I was told

could break off and move to the brain or lungs or heart,

causing stroke or death. At 3:00 am I was transferred by

ambulance to my HMO hospital about an hour away.

>

> At the hospital, after a night without sleep, the

atmosphere/set up of the hospital exacerbated my stress

(blood pressure up to 174) both physically and

emotionally. After speaking with two doctors there, it was

clear that they presented me with no choice except to have

the cat scan (to determine if the cause was a cancerous

tumor) and to immediately begin treatment with the drug

warfarin. I was there only 7 hours before I signed a

waiver releasing the doctors of responsibility for me and

securing a discharge. It was with enormous relief and

comfort that I dressed to leave.

>

> Back at Home – I started taking Tylenol (1/4 dose) to

get through the day and the night. (I hadn't taken any

pain killers or fever reducers prior to this.)

>

> Research (when I managed to do any) revealed that

warfarin is sold as a blood thinner for humans and also as

a rat poison. Treatment involves constant monitoring for

internal bleeding in the brain and elsewhere as a result

of the blood being unable to clot. Warfarin is incapable,

however, of dissolving any existing clot. I found I could

instead safely take nattokinase (an over the counter

supplement), and eat natto (a traditional Japanese food

containing mattokinase), to dissolve the existing clot,

and any future clots, without impeding the needed ability

of the blood to clot, and I began a regimen of both the

food and the supplement.

>

> In the days that followed, the glands in my neck

began to recede, but the fever continued and the pain

increased as the swelling descended down into my side,

enlarging my left breast, my lower arm and my left hand. I

could barely move my left arm which was about double the

size of my right, and I had developed a rash of red

pustules on my arm and also on my neck and stomach.

>

> Initial research indicated that I had lymphedema

(usually incurable and considered by the medical community

as pretty much untreatable except for palliative

measures). Afraid of a wide spread infection I began

applying the Lugol's again, topically, in the castor oil

mix, but at a lower dosage – 75 mg. I also used coconut

oil to prevent the tautly stretched skin from breaking or

hardening as I read could happen.

>

> Further research turned up the idea of a rebounder

(mini trampoline) which, through the mechanism of jumping,

forces the valves of the lymph glands to a healthy and

active opening and closing of the valves. I also learned

it would help dissolve blood clots! I've ordered a

rebounder and meanwhile am using a doubled over 2" slab of

latex rubber, under my barre, to enable me to "jump" (not

much off the slab) while pressing down on the barre. From

my first try, this felt surprising good. Hopefully it is

helping clear the impacted glands and dissolving my clot.

It is certainly increasing much needed deep breathing and

blood circulation.

>

> As time went by (three weeks now) my sleep was

increasingly disturbed by severe leg pains at night. For

years, I would have these pains maybe 3-4 times a year.

Now I was getting them every night and having to get out

of bed to walk for 20 minutes or so to make the pain go

away. It turns out I have a variation of Restless Leg

Syndrome (pain instead of itchy, crawly feelings) and the

increase was simply due to all the stress I've been under.

>

> Some of my stress was due to fear and confusion. Some

was the due to the dispiriting and difficult interactions

with five different doctors who, while they did give me

some valuable information and seemed genuinely concerned

about me, also made everything more difficult by becoming

angry and offended when I turned down their

recommendations. Although they were careful not to come

out and say they thought this was cancer, it seemed clear

they wanted the cat scan to confirm that diagnosis so they

could proceed to whatever radiation/chemotherapy they

thought necessary. It was hard for me to defend myself and

explain why a confirmation of cancer would not change

anything in my lifestyle – which for the last eight or so

years has been designed to combat cancer.

>

> I believe I'm going to be okay, and I now see small,

daily signs of that -- but it is clearly going to happen

slowly. If, instead, things get worse, I'm really not sure

what my next step would be. I would have to be in very bad

state to return to the ER and accept what it is they have

to offer me.

>

> I have been looking for an alternative doctor nearby

(in Oceanside, CA). I'm not sure though, if this would

really work for me. They each seem to have their own

viewpoints (often vegan-based) and protocols -- and would

any of them have known about or thought of nattokinase? Or

a rebounder? Would they even be willing to work with me if

a have a clot which could become lethal? I am beginning to

think I need my HMO (Kaiser) for tests (those I feel they

are safe), diagnoses (they were able to tell me I had a

blood clot, one suggested I might have Restless Leg

Syndrome, in spite of the unusual symptoms). Armed with

that kind of info, and the internet, I may be safer, as

well more comfortable, than working with any kind of

alternative doctor. But I am open to any suggestions on

this.

>

> I'm also wondering if anyone can make sense of all

this in terms of whether or not it was a detox – or in any

way a result of the iodine protocol.

>

February 16, 2011

This morning I see more improvement in my arm. It's still very

swollen and almost covered in the rash, but it's beginning to look

like an arm again. I think this is because of the daily application

of Lugol's and it makes me wonder now if I should have stopped the

Lugol's when my neck blew up with impacted lymph glands. I was so

scared I stopped the Lugol's completely, but maybe that was the time

to continue or even up the ante. Maybe if I had continued, I would

never have had the swelling move into my arm, side and breast.

Maybe I would never have developed the blood clot (if the clot

resulted from the pressure of the glands). I guess it's just hard

to know whether you might be stirring up more release of toxins

(which my elderly body couldn't handle) or helping get rid of

existing toxins <sigh>

On 2/16/2011 7:33 AM, clairewest wrote:

Thanks, Dianne. I'm completely committed to the

nattokinase, and also looking into serropeptase, but any

supportive info like this is very encouraging.

On 2/16/2011 7:21 AM, Dianne wrote:

I know of a few people who disolved blood clots. they

used Both the nattokinase and the serropeptase

together.

>

> Warning: Very long post.

>

> Background: Was taking 125 mg Lugol's topically,

mixed with castor oil, in an alternate day pulsing

mode, when the following ordeal began. I went off the

Lugol's right away, not sure this was a detox, but

afraid to add any possible fuel to the fire. I began

my topical application again as indicated below.

>

> Note: I've not seen any posts on this forum for

the last three weeks, so don't know if I missed

something that might be pertinent to the material

below.

>

> Sat, Jan 22 – the day before had been great, and

I was finally getting back to full strength after my

three week detox in December. But Saturday started

with a sudden swelling of lymph glands on the left

front of the neck, down to the breastbone. Over the

next week, the impacted glands grew enormous and

grotesque looking and painful and were accompanied by

a fever ranging from 101 to 102 which never broke, not

even in the middle of the night or early morning. (As

usual, though I was unable to sweat during this time.)

>

> Mon 1/30 – After nine days, the swelling spread

down to the elbow of my left arm which caused me

further pain and alarm and that night I went to an ER.

There I accepted the blood tests and ultrasound but

refused the cat scan (involving x-rays and an

intravenous dye). The test results indicated an

extended blood clot which I was told could break off

and move to the brain or lungs or heart, causing

stroke or death. At 3:00 am I was transferred by

ambulance to my HMO hospital about an hour away.

>

> At the hospital, after a night without sleep, the

atmosphere/set up of the hospital exacerbated my

stress (blood pressure up to 174) both physically and

emotionally. After speaking with two doctors there, it

was clear that they presented me with no choice except

to have the cat scan (to determine if the cause was a

cancerous tumor) and to immediately begin treatment

with the drug warfarin. I was there only 7 hours

before I signed a waiver releasing the doctors of

responsibility for me and securing a discharge. It was

with enormous relief and comfort that I dressed to

leave.

>

> Back at Home – I started taking Tylenol (1/4

dose) to get through the day and the night. (I hadn't

taken any pain killers or fever reducers prior to

this.)

>

> Research (when I managed to do any) revealed that

warfarin is sold as a blood thinner for humans and

also as a rat poison. Treatment involves constant

monitoring for internal bleeding in the brain and

elsewhere as a result of the blood being unable to

clot. Warfarin is incapable, however, of dissolving

any existing clot. I found I could instead safely take

nattokinase (an over the counter supplement), and eat

natto (a traditional Japanese food containing

mattokinase), to dissolve the existing clot, and any

future clots, without impeding the needed ability of

the blood to clot, and I began a regimen of both the

food and the supplement.

>

> In the days that followed, the glands in my neck

began to recede, but the fever continued and the pain

increased as the swelling descended down into my side,

enlarging my left breast, my lower arm and my left

hand. I could barely move my left arm which was about

double the size of my right, and I had developed a

rash of red pustules on my arm and also on my neck and

stomach.

>

> Initial research indicated that I had lymphedema

(usually incurable and considered by the medical

community as pretty much untreatable except for

palliative measures). Afraid of a wide spread

infection I began applying the Lugol's again,

topically, in the castor oil mix, but at a lower

dosage – 75 mg. I also used coconut oil to prevent the

tautly stretched skin from breaking or hardening as I

read could happen.

>

> Further research turned up the idea of a

rebounder (mini trampoline) which, through the

mechanism of jumping, forces the valves of the lymph

glands to a healthy and active opening and closing of

the valves. I also learned it would help dissolve

blood clots! I've ordered a rebounder and meanwhile am

using a doubled over 2" slab of latex rubber, under my

barre, to enable me to "jump" (not much off the slab)

while pressing down on the barre. From my first try,

this felt surprising good. Hopefully it is helping

clear the impacted glands and dissolving my clot. It

is certainly increasing much needed deep breathing and

blood circulation.

>

> As time went by (three weeks now) my sleep was

increasingly disturbed by severe leg pains at night.

For years, I would have these pains maybe 3-4 times a

year. Now I was getting them every night and having to

get out of bed to walk for 20 minutes or so to make

the pain go away. It turns out I have a variation of

Restless Leg Syndrome (pain instead of itchy, crawly

feelings) and the increase was simply due to all the

stress I've been under.

>

> Some of my stress was due to fear and confusion.

Some was the due to the dispiriting and difficult

interactions with five different doctors who, while

they did give me some valuable information and seemed

genuinely concerned about me, also made everything

more difficult by becoming angry and offended when I

turned down their recommendations. Although they were

careful not to come out and say they thought this was

cancer, it seemed clear they wanted the cat scan to

confirm that diagnosis so they could proceed to

whatever radiation/chemotherapy they thought

necessary. It was hard for me to defend myself and

explain why a confirmation of cancer would not change

anything in my lifestyle – which for the last eight or

so years has been designed to combat cancer.

>

> I believe I'm going to be okay, and I now see

small, daily signs of that -- but it is clearly going

to happen slowly. If, instead, things get worse, I'm

really not sure what my next step would be. I would

have to be in very bad state to return to the ER and

accept what it is they have to offer me.

>

> I have been looking for an alternative doctor

nearby (in Oceanside, CA). I'm not sure though, if

this would really work for me. They each seem to have

their own viewpoints (often vegan-based) and protocols

-- and would any of them have known about or thought

of nattokinase? Or a rebounder? Would they even be

willing to work with me if a have a clot which could

become lethal? I am beginning to think I need my HMO

(Kaiser) for tests (those I feel they are safe),

diagnoses (they were able to tell me I had a blood

clot, one suggested I might have Restless Leg

Syndrome, in spite of the unusual symptoms). Armed

with that kind of info, and the internet, I may be

safer, as well more comfortable, than working with any

kind of alternative doctor. But I am open to any

suggestions on this.

>

> I'm also wondering if anyone can make sense of

all this in terms of whether or not it was a detox –

or in any way a result of the iodine protocol.

>

February 16, 2011

Jim,

Thanks for the suggested reading. Right now I don't seem to be at

risk for Pulmonary Fibrosis, but I appreciate the alert as to the

particulars/possibilities of this disease. Re: serrapeptase, I've

decided against this particular supplement as, unlike nattokinase,

it apparently has some possible bad side effects and may provoke

overwhelming detoxes. (With regard to overwhelming detoxes, I am

still feeling a little wary about how much iodine I will be able to

handle in the future.) Also, there are no long-term studies of its

use.

I think the nk will be sufficient for me, and I especially like that

I can eventually go off the isolated, factory made supplement with

additivies and instead depend on the food source, natto -- as

generations of Japanese have done in the past.

On 2/16/2011 10:09 AM, dutchdivco wrote:

You may already know about this, but if not Google

"Pulmonary Fibrosis Nattokinase serrapeptase.Everyone

should know about this.Its another one like HYPO, etc.That

is, the Dr.'s don't have tests to detect it, and so it

slowly gets worse for 20-30 years. Many diverse symptoms

or conditions all resulting from the same underlieing

cause;Cattaract, kidney problems, artheritis, difficulty

breathing, etc.All caused by excessive fibrin.By the time

they can detect it, its too late.Happened to my Dad.Its

what he died from.I have it too, but am taking natto, to

keep it in check. Jim

> > >

> > > Warning: Very long post.

> > >

> > > Background: Was taking 125 mg Lugol's

topically, mixed with castor

> > oil, in an alternate day pulsing mode, when the

following ordeal

> > began. I went off the Lugol's right away, not

sure this was a detox,

> > but afraid to add any possible fuel to the fire.

I began my topical

> > application again as indicated below.

> > >

> > > Note: I've not seen any posts on this forum

for the last three

> > weeks, so don't know if I missed something that

might be pertinent to

> > the material below.

> > >

> > > Sat, Jan 22 -- the day before had been

great, and I was finally

> > getting back to full strength after my three

week detox in December.

> > But Saturday started with a sudden swelling of

lymph glands on the

> > left front of the neck, down to the breastbone.

Over the next week,

> > the impacted glands grew enormous and grotesque

looking and painful

> > and were accompanied by a fever ranging from 101

to 102 which never

> > broke, not even in the middle of the night or

early morning. (As

> > usual, though I was unable to sweat during this

time.)

> > >

> > > Mon 1/30 -- After nine days, the swelling

spread down to the elbow

> > of my left arm which caused me further pain and

alarm and that night I

> > went to an ER. There I accepted the blood tests

and ultrasound but

> > refused the cat scan (involving x-rays and an

intravenous dye). The

> > test results indicated an extended blood clot

which I was told could

> > break off and move to the brain or lungs or

heart, causing stroke or

> > death. At 3:00 am I was transferred by ambulance

to my HMO hospital

> > about an hour away.

> > >

> > > At the hospital, after a night without

sleep, the atmosphere/set up

> > of the hospital exacerbated my stress (blood

pressure up to 174) both

> > physically and emotionally. After speaking with

two doctors there, it

> > was clear that they presented me with no choice

except to have the cat

> > scan (to determine if the cause was a cancerous

tumor) and to

> > immediately begin treatment with the drug

warfarin. I was there only 7

> > hours before I signed a waiver releasing the

doctors of responsibility

> > for me and securing a discharge. It was with

enormous relief and

> > comfort that I dressed to leave.

> > >

> > > Back at Home -- I started taking Tylenol

(1/4 dose) to get through

> > the day and the night. (I hadn't taken any pain

killers or fever

> > reducers prior to this.)

> > >

> > > Research (when I managed to do any)

revealed that warfarin is sold

> > as a blood thinner for humans and also as a rat

poison. Treatment

> > involves constant monitoring for internal

bleeding in the brain and

> > elsewhere as a result of the blood being unable

to clot. Warfarin is

> > incapable, however, of dissolving any existing

clot. I found I could

> > instead safely take nattokinase (an over the

counter supplement), and

> > eat natto (a traditional Japanese food

containing mattokinase), to

> > dissolve the existing clot, and any future

clots, without impeding the

> > needed ability of the blood to clot, and I began

a regimen of both the

> > food and the supplement.

> > >

> > > In the days that followed, the glands in my

neck began to recede,

> > but the fever continued and the pain increased

as the swelling

> > descended down into my side, enlarging my left

breast, my lower arm

> > and my left hand. I could barely move my left

arm which was about

> > double the size of my right, and I had developed

a rash of red

> > pustules on my arm and also on my neck and

stomach.

> > >

> > > Initial research indicated that I had

lymphedema (usually incurable

> > and considered by the medical community as

pretty much untreatable

> > except for palliative measures). Afraid of a

wide spread infection I

> > began applying the Lugol's again, topically, in

the castor oil mix,

> > but at a lower dosage -- 75 mg. I also used

coconut oil to prevent the

> > tautly stretched skin from breaking or hardening

as I read could happen.

> > >

> > > Further research turned up the idea of a

rebounder (mini trampoline)

> > which, through the mechanism of jumping, forces

the valves of the

> > lymph glands to a healthy and active opening and

closing of the

> > valves. I also learned it would help dissolve

blood clots! I've

> > ordered a rebounder and meanwhile am using a

doubled over 2" slab of

> > latex rubber, under my barre, to enable me to

"jump" (not much off the

> > slab) while pressing down on the barre. From my

first try, this felt

> > surprising good. Hopefully it is helping clear

the impacted glands and

> > dissolving my clot. It is certainly increasing

much needed deep

> > breathing and blood circulation.

> > >

> > > As time went by (three weeks now) my sleep

was increasingly

> > disturbed by severe leg pains at night. For

years, I would have these

> > pains maybe 3-4 times a year. Now I was getting

them every night and

> > having to get out of bed to walk for 20 minutes

or so to make the pain

> > go away. It turns out I have a variation of

Restless Leg Syndrome

> > (pain instead of itchy, crawly feelings) and the

increase was simply

> > due to all the stress I've been under.

> > >

> > > Some of my stress was due to fear and

confusion. Some was the due to

> > the dispiriting and difficult interactions with

five different doctors

> > who, while they did give me some valuable

information and seemed

> > genuinely concerned about me, also made

everything more difficult by

> > becoming angry and offended when I turned down

their recommendations.

> > Although they were careful not to come out and

say they thought this

> > was cancer, it seemed clear they wanted the cat

scan to confirm that

> > diagnosis so they could proceed to whatever

radiation/chemotherapy

> > they thought necessary. It was hard for me to

defend myself and

> > explain why a confirmation of cancer would not

change anything in my

> > lifestyle -- which for the last eight or so

years has been designed to

> > combat cancer.

> > >

> > > I believe I'm going to be okay, and I now

see small, daily signs of

> > that -- but it is clearly going to happen

slowly. If, instead, things

> > get worse, I'm really not sure what my next step

would be. I would

> > have to be in very bad state to return to the ER

and accept what it is

> > they have to offer me.

> > >

> > > I have been looking for an alternative

doctor nearby (in Oceanside,

> > CA). I'm not sure though, if this would really

work for me. They each

> > seem to have their own viewpoints (often

vegan-based) and protocols --

> > and would any of them have known about or

thought of nattokinase? Or a

> > rebounder? Would they even be willing to work

with me if a have a clot

> > which could become lethal? I am beginning to

think I need my HMO

> > (Kaiser) for tests (those I feel they are safe),

diagnoses (they were

> > able to tell me I had a blood clot, one

suggested I might have

> > Restless Leg Syndrome, in spite of the unusual

symptoms). Armed with

> > that kind of info, and the internet, I may be

safer, as well more

> > comfortable, than working with any kind of

alternative doctor. But I

> > am open to any suggestions on this.

> > >

> > > I'm also wondering if anyone can make sense

of all this in terms of

> > whether or not it was a detox -- or in any way a

result of the iodine

> > protocol.

> > >

> >

>

February 20, 2011

wrote to me off-list because her question was about castor

oil, but my answer is all about how castor oil may work with iodine,

so -- with her permission -- I'm posting my answer to her here. (I

also wanted to let folks know I'm doing better now.

,

I now very much think the use of castor oil was a significant factor

in what happened to me.

I think I simply underestimated the power of iodine when mixed with

castor oil. First of all, castor oil is an exceptional "carrier" to

deep within the body. I once applied the oil my my lower abdomen

(before I started using iodine) and within a short time, I was

sitting on the toilet with the oil draining out of my anus (without

any fecal matter). Second of all, I think the oil may prevent the

evaporation of the iodine into air which happens when iodine is

applied directly to the skin without the oil. In any case, it

seeems that 125 mg of iodine in castor oil was simply too much for a

72 year old woman with a weakened immune system (CFS).

I read recently that that the lymphatic system has as it's general

"dumping ground" (excluding only the right arm and the right upper

chest area) the front left side of the neck (where the problem

started for me, with impacted lymph nodes). My "formula" must have

pulled out toxins from all over my body, and lacking the body fat to

absorb any of it, it backed up the lymph nodes in my neck.

I am now using a formula (which seems to be healing my swollen arm

and rash) of about half of the iodine, and I have also added coconut

oil to the mix (which I once used exclusively, before I changed to

castor oil). The coconut oil speeds up the absorption and adds to

the "spreadability" of the mix. My formula (which seems right for

me right now but could be too little or too much for others) is

about 1 t of castor oil to 1/4 t coconut oil to 75 mg of Lugol's (12

drops of 5% Lugols)

It's been a month now since this all began and while I am very much

on the mend, my arm is still somewhat swollen, the rash is not

completely gone, I am still quite weak, and I am still dealing with

a recurrent fever. When I'm completely healed, I may go back to a

pulsing mode.

When my lymph nodes began swelling, I think I made a big mistake in

not moving enough. I am now walking a lot (although only in my

condo), doing all kinds of gentle warm up/stretch exercises, and

using the rebounder (gentle bouncing only without my feet leaving

the fabric.) I think it's all making a difference for me.

To get back to your own situation: I don't know if castor oil alone

is a detoxifier, but when I think about how it is generally used, as

a poultice, that seems possible. I suppose it's also possible that

it could interact somewhat (intensify?) the Iodoral you take by

mouth. I think that, in the broadest sense, we all know a lot less

than we know about these things.

On 2/20/2011 7:59 AM, wendy 56789 wrote:

Hi ,

I'm so sorry to hear you went through this ordeal, and I hope this

finds you better now. I have a question for you. Do you think it

could have anything to do with the castor oil?

The reason I ask is I recently started using castor oil on my skin

(without Lugol's since I take Iodoral already) to help with moles,

etc. Anyway, I started getting sick last weekend and came down

with a pretty bad cold, although the first day or two, I thought

maybe it was detox. Not sure why since I've been on the same dose

of Iodoral for months. The weird part of all of this is that I

NEVER get sick. The last time I had a bug that lasted more than a

few hours was over a decade ago. I haven't worn myself down. I'm

not under any extra stress. There is absolutely no reason I

should have had such a hard time with a bug. The only thing I can

think of that is different is the castor oil. I'm still fighting

the remnants of this off and am still puzzled what happened to my

excellent immune system.

My thoughts are with you and hope you feel better soon!

~W

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 3:24 PM,

clairecwest <clairewest@...>

wrote:

Warning: Very long post.

Background: Was taking 125 mg Lugol's topically,

mixed with castor oil, in an alternate day pulsing

mode, when the following ordeal began. I went off

the Lugol's right away, not sure this was a detox,

but afraid to add any possible fuel to the fire. I

began my topical application again as indicated

below.

Note: I've not seen any posts on this forum for the

last three weeks, so don't know if I missed

something that might be pertinent to the material

below.

Sat, Jan 22 – the day before had been great, and I

was finally getting back to full strength after my

three week detox in December. But Saturday started

with a sudden swelling of lymph glands on the left

front of the neck, down to the breastbone. Over the

next week, the impacted glands grew enormous and

grotesque looking and painful and were accompanied

by a fever ranging from 101 to 102 which never

broke, not even in the middle of the night or early

morning. (As usual, though I was unable to sweat

during this time.)

Mon 1/30 – After nine days, the swelling spread down

to the elbow of my left arm which caused me further

pain and alarm and that night I went to an ER. There

I accepted the blood tests and ultrasound but

refused the cat scan (involving x-rays and an

intravenous dye). The test results indicated an

extended blood clot which I was told could break off

and move to the brain or lungs or heart, causing

stroke or death. At 3:00 am I was transferred by

ambulance to my HMO hospital about an hour away.

At the hospital, after a night without sleep, the

atmosphere/set up of the hospital exacerbated my

stress (blood pressure up to 174) both physically

and emotionally. After speaking with two doctors

there, it was clear that they presented me with no

choice except to have the cat scan (to determine if

the cause was a cancerous tumor) and to immediately

begin treatment with the drug warfarin. I was there

only 7 hours before I signed a waiver releasing the

doctors of responsibility for me and securing a

discharge. It was with enormous relief and comfort

that I dressed to leave.

Back at Home – I started taking Tylenol (1/4 dose)

to get through the day and the night. (I hadn't

taken any pain killers or fever reducers prior to

this.)

Research (when I managed to do any) revealed that

warfarin is sold as a blood thinner for humans and

also as a rat poison. Treatment involves constant

monitoring for internal bleeding in the brain and

elsewhere as a result of the blood being unable to

clot. Warfarin is incapable, however, of dissolving

any existing clot. I found I could instead safely

take nattokinase (an over the counter supplement),

and eat natto (a traditional Japanese food

containing mattokinase), to dissolve the existing

clot, and any future clots, without impeding the

needed ability of the blood to clot, and I began a

regimen of both the food and the supplement.

In the days that followed, the glands in my neck

began to recede, but the fever continued and the

pain increased as the swelling descended down into

my side, enlarging my left breast, my lower arm and

my left hand. I could barely move my left arm which

was about double the size of my right, and I had

developed a rash of red pustules on my arm and also

on my neck and stomach.

Initial research indicated that I had lymphedema

(usually incurable and considered by the medical

community as pretty much untreatable except for

palliative measures). Afraid of a wide spread

infection I began applying the Lugol's again,

topically, in the castor oil mix, but at a lower

dosage – 75 mg. I also used coconut oil to prevent

the tautly stretched skin from breaking or hardening

as I read could happen.

Further research turned up the idea of a rebounder

(mini trampoline) which, through the mechanism of

jumping, forces the valves of the lymph glands to a

healthy and active opening and closing of the

valves. I also learned it would help dissolve blood

clots! I've ordered a rebounder and meanwhile am

using a doubled over 2" slab of latex rubber, under

my barre, to enable me to "jump" (not much off the

slab) while pressing down on the barre. From my

first try, this felt surprising good. Hopefully it

is helping clear the impacted glands and dissolving

my clot. It is certainly increasing much needed deep

breathing and blood circulation.

As time went by (three weeks now) my sleep was

increasingly disturbed by severe leg pains at night.

For years, I would have these pains maybe 3-4 times

a year. Now I was getting them every night and

having to get out of bed to walk for 20 minutes or

so to make the pain go away. It turns out I have a

variation of Restless Leg Syndrome (pain instead of

itchy, crawly feelings) and the increase was simply

due to all the stress I've been under.

Some of my stress was due to fear and confusion.

Some was the due to the dispiriting and difficult

interactions with five different doctors who, while

they did give me some valuable information and

seemed genuinely concerned about me, also made

everything more difficult by becoming angry and

offended when I turned down their recommendations.

Although they were careful not to come out and say

they thought this was cancer, it seemed clear they

wanted the cat scan to confirm that diagnosis so

they could proceed to whatever

radiation/chemotherapy they thought necessary. It

was hard for me to defend myself and explain why a

confirmation of cancer would not change anything in

my lifestyle – which for the last eight or so years

has been designed to combat cancer.

I believe I'm going to be okay, and I now see small,

daily signs of that -- but it is clearly going to

happen slowly. If, instead, things get worse, I'm

really not sure what my next step would be. I would

have to be in very bad state to return to the ER and

accept what it is they have to offer me.

I have been looking for an alternative doctor nearby

(in Oceanside, CA). I'm not sure though, if this

would really work for me. They each seem to have

their own viewpoints (often vegan-based) and

protocols -- and would any of them have known about

or thought of nattokinase? Or a rebounder? Would

they even be willing to work with me if a have a

clot which could become lethal? I am beginning to

think I need my HMO (Kaiser) for tests (those I feel

they are safe), diagnoses (they were able to tell me

I had a blood clot, one suggested I might have

Restless Leg Syndrome, in spite of the unusual

symptoms). Armed with that kind of info, and the

internet, I may be safer, as well more comfortable,

than working with any kind of alternative doctor.

But I am open to any suggestions on this.

I'm also wondering if anyone can make sense of all

this in terms of whether or not it was a detox – or

in any way a result of the iodine protocol.

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February 20, 2011

Thanks for sharing all of this, . I've learned a lot from this thread. I had no idea that castor oil was a carrier -- that's very useful to know.On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 5:05 PM, clairewest <clairewest@...> wrote:

wrote to me off-list because her question was about castor

oil, but my answer is all about how castor oil may work with iodine,

so -- with her permission -- I'm posting my answer to her here. (I

also wanted to let folks know I'm doing better now.

,

I now very much think the use of castor oil was a significant factor

in what happened to me.

I think I simply underestimated the power of iodine when mixed with

castor oil. First of all, castor oil is an exceptional " carrier " to

deep within the body. I once applied the oil my my lower abdomen

(before I started using iodine) and within a short time, I was

sitting on the toilet with the oil draining out of my anus (without

any fecal matter). Second of all, I think the oil may prevent the

evaporation of the iodine into air which happens when iodine is

applied directly to the skin without the oil. In any case, it

seeems that 125 mg of iodine in castor oil was simply too much for a

72 year old woman with a weakened immune system (CFS).

I read recently that that the lymphatic system has as it's general

" dumping ground " (excluding only the right arm and the right upper

chest area) the front left side of the neck (where the problem

started for me, with impacted lymph nodes). My " formula " must have

pulled out toxins from all over my body, and lacking the body fat to

absorb any of it, it backed up the lymph nodes in my neck.

I am now using a formula (which seems to be healing my swollen arm

and rash) of about half of the iodine, and I have also added coconut

oil to the mix (which I once used exclusively, before I changed to

castor oil). The coconut oil speeds up the absorption and adds to

the " spreadability " of the mix. My formula (which seems right for