Guest guest Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 It is possible to be allergic to metals. The IgE are activated. http://www.humanillnesses.com/original/A-As/Allergies.html http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Allergies/nickelallergy.htm Buist, ND Re: Allergies and proteins :I would disagree with you as people can be allergic to metals which they usually react to via the skin. Silver and gold are not pure metals, but alloys that have other metals in them (usually including nickel, copper or whatever else they throw in the mix). People can have other reactions to metals as well. That's why a person reacts because the body's immune system has kicked in response to an allergen. I would suggest to anyone with any type of allergy to seek out a NAET provider in his/her area (NAET.com which stands for Nambudripad Allergy Elimination Techniques). There are lots of testimonies in the book ("Say Goodbye to Illness") for countless conditions that have been remedied or cured once the person was treated for the allergen. At times he/she may not know what the allergen may be. There are stories of people who had pain in their body and it was traced back to the jewelery (gold, diamonds etc) they wore. I can tell you from personal experience that my tolerance for iodine was increased once I was treated for it by my NAET provider. Once treated I no longer had negative reactions from it such as severe fatigue (almost like depression) and tearfulness. She also treated my thyroid which helped as well. The majority of people who have allergies or are severely sick aren't able to absorb the vitamins and minerals, but NAET helps with that so his/her condition improves. I am a living example.Laurie> >> >>> >>> >>If proteins are required for allergic reactions, then what explains the > >>allergy to nickel? I have a friend with that and it is a very real > >>allergy--gross skin scabs and welts if anything with nickel, including > >>sterling silver, touches her skin.> >>> >>I can understand that allergies to iodine usually aren't, but all > >>allergies are not to proteins.> >>> >>Adrienne in Texas> >> >> >> >> > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~> --A.J. Muste> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Ok. But, since many sources out on the web continue to say " you cannot have an allergic reaction to a non-protein source " , what is actually going on? It sounds like maybe the " non protein " rule actually simply not the case and is outdated/outmoded? I've been through my own issues with allergens, where doctors would deny it was an allergy, but they have all been protein issues. I've also had metal reactions to cheap jewelry but fortunately nothing ongoing. I'm also allergic to sulfa drugs but I had assumed it was something protein-like in them. I'm still highly skeptical that anyone is allergic to iodine since it is required for life. I had a skin reaction to betadine 20 years ago from when I was told to soak in it constantly for a bad cat bite (which led to the medical personnel telling me I had an allergy to iodine), but I've never had another reaction to betadine (have had minimal exposure) and no reactions at all to Lugol's or Iodoral, whether internal or transdermal. -- At 10:10 AM 2/19/2011, you wrote: >It is possible to be allergic to metals. The IgE are >activated. ><http://www.humanillnesses.com/original/A-As/Allergies.html>http://www.humanill\ nesses.com/original/A-As/Allergies.html >http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Allergies/nickelallergy.htm > > Buist, ND > > > Re: Allergies and proteins > > > >: > >I would disagree with you as people can be allergic to metals which they >usually react to via the skin. Silver and gold are not pure metals, but >alloys that have other metals in them (usually including nickel, copper or >whatever else they throw in the mix). People can have other reactions to >metals as well. That's why a person reacts because the body's immune >system has kicked in response to an allergen. > >I would suggest to anyone with any type of allergy to seek out a NAET >provider in his/her area (NAET.com which stands for Nambudripad Allergy >Elimination Techniques). There are lots of testimonies in the book ( " Say >Goodbye to Illness " ) for countless conditions that have been remedied or >cured once the person was treated for the allergen. At times he/she may >not know what the allergen may be. There are stories of people who had >pain in their body and it was traced back to the jewelery (gold, diamonds >etc) they wore. > >I can tell you from personal experience that my tolerance for iodine was >increased once I was treated for it by my NAET provider. Once treated I no >longer had negative reactions from it such as severe fatigue (almost like >depression) and tearfulness. She also treated my thyroid which helped as >well. The majority of people who have allergies or are severely sick >aren't able to absorb the vitamins and minerals, but NAET helps with that >so his/her condition improves. I am a living example. > >Laurie > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >>If proteins are required for allergic reactions, then what explains the > > >>allergy to nickel? I have a friend with that and it is a very real > > >>allergy--gross skin scabs and welts if anything with nickel, including > > >>sterling silver, touches her skin. > > >> > > >>I can understand that allergies to iodine usually aren't, but all > > >>allergies are not to proteins. > > >> > > >>Adrienne in Texas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > > --A.J. Muste > > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 I read a post yesterday about potassium but can't find it - something about if you are on the iodine protocol, you should be taking potassium as well. I'm pretty sure i'm low but don't have $ for a test for about a month. how much should I be taking to start off with? On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Baker <vbaker@...> wrote: Ok. But, since many sources out on the web continue to say " you cannot have an allergic reaction to a non-protein source " , what is actually going on? It sounds like maybe the " non protein " rule actually simply not the case and is outdated/outmoded? I've been through my own issues with allergens, where doctors would deny it was an allergy, but they have all been protein issues. I've also had metal reactions to cheap jewelry but fortunately nothing ongoing. I'm also allergic to sulfa drugs but I had assumed it was something protein-like in them. I'm still highly skeptical that anyone is allergic to iodine since it is required for life. I had a skin reaction to betadine 20 years ago from when I was told to soak in it constantly for a bad cat bite (which led to the medical personnel telling me I had an allergy to iodine), but I've never had another reaction to betadine (have had minimal exposure) and no reactions at all to Lugol's or Iodoral, whether internal or transdermal. -- At 10:10 AM 2/19/2011, you wrote: >It is possible to be allergic to metals. The IgE are >activated. ><http://www.humanillnesses.com/original/A-As/Allergies.html>http://www.humanillnesses.com/original/A-As/Allergies.html >http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Allergies/nickelallergy.htm > > Buist, ND > > > Re: Allergies and proteins > > > >: > >I would disagree with you as people can be allergic to metals which they >usually react to via the skin. Silver and gold are not pure metals, but >alloys that have other metals in them (usually including nickel, copper or >whatever else they throw in the mix). People can have other reactions to >metals as well. That's why a person reacts because the body's immune >system has kicked in response to an allergen. > >I would suggest to anyone with any type of allergy to seek out a NAET >provider in his/her area (NAET.com which stands for Nambudripad Allergy >Elimination Techniques). There are lots of testimonies in the book ( " Say >Goodbye to Illness " ) for countless conditions that have been remedied or >cured once the person was treated for the allergen. At times he/she may >not know what the allergen may be. There are stories of people who had >pain in their body and it was traced back to the jewelery (gold, diamonds >etc) they wore. > >I can tell you from personal experience that my tolerance for iodine was >increased once I was treated for it by my NAET provider. Once treated I no >longer had negative reactions from it such as severe fatigue (almost like >depression) and tearfulness. She also treated my thyroid which helped as >well. The majority of people who have allergies or are severely sick >aren't able to absorb the vitamins and minerals, but NAET helps with that >so his/her condition improves. I am a living example. > >Laurie > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >>If proteins are required for allergic reactions, then what explains the > > >>allergy to nickel? I have a friend with that and it is a very real > > >>allergy--gross skin scabs and welts if anything with nickel, including > > >>sterling silver, touches her skin. > > >> > > >>I can understand that allergies to iodine usually aren't, but all > > >>allergies are not to proteins. > > >> > > >>Adrienne in Texas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > > --A.J. Muste > > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste -- Ariel MonserratPublisher & Managing EditorGreen Egg zinewww.greeneggzine.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 << I've also had metal reactions to cheap jewelry but fortunately nothing ongoing.>> When I was younger and wore the kid’s jewelry, I always got green rings around my fingers. I also had trouble with some earrings and finally stopped wearing them years ago. What would cause that? I’m sure it was some allergy, but never thought about it when I was young. Lori Re: Re: Allergies and proteins Ok. But, since many sources out on the web continue to say " you cannot have an allergic reaction to a non-protein source " , what is actually going on? It sounds like maybe the " non protein " rule actually simply not the case and is outdated/outmoded? I've been through my own issues with allergens, where doctors would deny it was an allergy, but they have all been protein issues. I've also had metal reactions to cheap jewelry but fortunately nothing ongoing. I'm also allergic to sulfa drugs but I had assumed it was something protein-like in them. I'm still highly skeptical that anyone is allergic to iodine since it is required for life. I had a skin reaction to betadine 20 years ago from when I was told to soak in it constantly for a bad cat bite (which led to the medical personnel telling me I had an allergy to iodine), but I've never had another reaction to betadine (have had minimal exposure) and no reactions at all to Lugol's or Iodoral, whether internal or transdermal. -- At 10:10 AM 2/19/2011, you wrote: >It is possible to be allergic to metals. The IgE are >activated. ><http://www.humanillnesses.com/original/A-As/Allergies.html>http://www.humanillnesses.com/original/A-As/Allergies.html >http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Allergies/nickelallergy.htm > > Buist, ND > > > Re: Allergies and proteins > > > >: > >I would disagree with you as people can be allergic to metals which they >usually react to via the skin. Silver and gold are not pure metals, but >alloys that have other metals in them (usually including nickel, copper or >whatever else they throw in the mix). People can have other reactions to >metals as well. That's why a person reacts because the body's immune >system has kicked in response to an allergen. > >I would suggest to anyone with any type of allergy to seek out a NAET >provider in his/her area (NAET.com which stands for Nambudripad Allergy >Elimination Techniques). There are lots of testimonies in the book ( " Say >Goodbye to Illness " ) for countless conditions that have been remedied or >cured once the person was treated for the allergen. At times he/she may >not know what the allergen may be. There are stories of people who had >pain in their body and it was traced back to the jewelery (gold, diamonds >etc) they wore. > >I can tell you from personal experience that my tolerance for iodine was >increased once I was treated for it by my NAET provider. Once treated I no >longer had negative reactions from it such as severe fatigue (almost like >depression) and tearfulness. She also treated my thyroid which helped as >well. The majority of people who have allergies or are severely sick >aren't able to absorb the vitamins and minerals, but NAET helps with that >so his/her condition improves. I am a living example. > >Laurie > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >>If proteins are required for allergic reactions, then what explains the > > >>allergy to nickel? I have a friend with that and it is a very real > > >>allergy--gross skin scabs and welts if anything with nickel, including > > >>sterling silver, touches her skin. > > >> > > >>I can understand that allergies to iodine usually aren't, but all > > >>allergies are not to proteins. > > >> > > >>Adrienne in Texas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > > --A.J. Muste > > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 I think the green stuff is just a chemical reaction of cheap metals with your sweat & body oils -- like tarnish on silver.AnneOn Feb 20, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Lori@... wrote: << I've also had metal reactions to cheap jewelry but fortunately nothing ongoing.>> When I was younger and wore the kid’s jewelry, I always got green rings around my fingers. I also had trouble with some earrings and finally stopped wearing them years ago. What would cause that? I’m sure it was some allergy, but never thought about it when I was young. Lori Re: Re: Allergies and proteins Ok. But, since many sources out on the web continue to say "you cannot have an allergic reaction to a non-protein source", what is actually going on? It sounds like maybe the "non protein" rule actually simply not the case and is outdated/outmoded? I've been through my own issues with allergens, where doctors would deny it was an allergy, but they have all been protein issues. I've also had metal reactions to cheap jewelry but fortunately nothing ongoing. I'm also allergic to sulfa drugs but I had assumed it was something protein-like in them. I'm still highly skeptical that anyone is allergic to iodine since it is required for life. I had a skin reaction to betadine 20 years ago from when I was told to soak in it constantly for a bad cat bite (which led to the medical personnel telling me I had an allergy to iodine), but I've never had another reaction to betadine (have had minimal exposure) and no reactions at all to Lugol's or Iodoral, whether internal or transdermal. -- At 10:10 AM 2/19/2011, you wrote: >It is possible to be allergic to metals. The IgE are >activated. ><http://www.humanillnesses.com/original/A-As/Allergies.html>http://www.humanillnesses.com/original/A-As/Allergies.html >http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Allergies/nickelallergy.htm > > Buist, ND > > > Re: Allergies and proteins > > > >: > >I would disagree with you as people can be allergic to metals which they >usually react to via the skin. Silver and gold are not pure metals, but >alloys that have other metals in them (usually including nickel, copper or >whatever else they throw in the mix). People can have other reactions to >metals as well. That's why a person reacts because the body's immune >system has kicked in response to an allergen. > >I would suggest to anyone with any type of allergy to seek out a NAET >provider in his/her area (NAET.com which stands for Nambudripad Allergy >Elimination Techniques). There are lots of testimonies in the book ("Say >Goodbye to Illness") for countless conditions that have been remedied or >cured once the person was treated for the allergen. At times he/she may >not know what the allergen may be. There are stories of people who had >pain in their body and it was traced back to the jewelery (gold, diamonds >etc) they wore. > >I can tell you from personal experience that my tolerance for iodine was >increased once I was treated for it by my NAET provider. Once treated I no >longer had negative reactions from it such as severe fatigue (almost like >depression) and tearfulness. She also treated my thyroid which helped as >well. The majority of people who have allergies or are severely sick >aren't able to absorb the vitamins and minerals, but NAET helps with that >so his/her condition improves. I am a living example. > >Laurie > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >>If proteins are required for allergic reactions, then what explains the > > >>allergy to nickel? I have a friend with that and it is a very real > > >>allergy--gross skin scabs and welts if anything with nickel, including > > >>sterling silver, touches her skin. > > >> > > >>I can understand that allergies to iodine usually aren't, but all > > >>allergies are not to proteins. > > >> > > >>Adrienne in Texas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > > --A.J. Muste > > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Potassium is a good thing but it's not required for the iodine protocol. However, our bodies use something like 5 GRAMS of potassium a day, and it's unlikely very many of us are even getting that much. One can easily take 2grams a day and be safe. I think the best supplement for potassium is potassium bicarbonate. In that form, which I bought as a powder at Beyond A Century, it improves the micro-balance of the body toward alkaline. So that form is a two-fer. My husband resists supplements but he has been taking the pot. bicarb. for a year and he's been getting more youthful looking. I think it helps him feel good, because he remains faithful to it. The iodine protocol is: Iodine Vit C Magnesium Selenium Unrefined salt Plus it's nice to have the B vite combo, which I can't remember offhand. -- At 11:14 AM 2/20/2011, you wrote: >I read a post yesterday about potassium but can't find it - something >about if you are on the iodine protocol, you should be taking potassium as >well. I'm pretty sure i'm low but don't have $ for a test for about a >month. how much should I be taking to start off with? > >On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Baker ><<mailto:vbaker@...>vbaker@...> wrote: > > >Ok. But, since many sources out on the web continue to say " you cannot >have an allergic reaction to a non-protein source " , what is actually going >on? It sounds like maybe the " non protein " rule actually simply not the >case and is outdated/outmoded? > >I've been through my own issues with allergens, where doctors would deny it >was an allergy, but they have all been protein issues. I've also had metal >reactions to cheap jewelry but fortunately nothing ongoing. I'm also >allergic to sulfa drugs but I had assumed it was something protein-like in >them. > >I'm still highly skeptical that anyone is allergic to iodine since it is >required for life. I had a skin reaction to betadine 20 years ago from >when I was told to soak in it constantly for a bad cat bite (which led to >the medical personnel telling me I had an allergy to iodine), but I've >never had another reaction to betadine (have had minimal exposure) and no >reactions at all to Lugol's or Iodoral, whether internal or transdermal. > >-- > > >At 10:10 AM 2/19/2011, you wrote: > > >It is possible to be allergic to metals. The IgE are > >activated. > ><<http://www.humanillnesses.com/original/A-As/Allergies.html>http://www.h > umanillnesses.com/original/A-As/Allergies.html>http://www.humanillnesses.com/ori\ ginal/A-As/Allergies.html > > ><http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Allergies/nickelallergy.htm>http://www. > corrosion-doctors.org/Allergies/nickelallergy.htm > > > > Buist, ND > > > > > > Re: Allergies and proteins > > > > > > > >: > > > >I would disagree with you as people can be allergic to metals which they > >usually react to via the skin. Silver and gold are not pure metals, but > >alloys that have other metals in them (usually including nickel, copper or > >whatever else they throw in the mix). People can have other reactions to > >metals as well. That's why a person reacts because the body's immune > >system has kicked in response to an allergen. > > > >I would suggest to anyone with any type of allergy to seek out a NAET > >provider in his/her area (NAET.com which stands for Nambudripad Allergy > >Elimination Techniques). There are lots of testimonies in the book ( " Say > >Goodbye to Illness " ) for countless conditions that have been remedied or > >cured once the person was treated for the allergen. At times he/she may > >not know what the allergen may be. There are stories of people who had > >pain in their body and it was traced back to the jewelery (gold, diamonds > >etc) they wore. > > > >I can tell you from personal experience that my tolerance for iodine was > >increased once I was treated for it by my NAET provider. Once treated I no > >longer had negative reactions from it such as severe fatigue (almost like > >depression) and tearfulness. She also treated my thyroid which helped as > >well. The majority of people who have allergies or are severely sick > >aren't able to absorb the vitamins and minerals, but NAET helps with that > >so his/her condition improves. I am a living example. > > > >Laurie > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>If proteins are required for allergic reactions, then what explains the > > > >>allergy to nickel? I have a friend with that and it is a very real > > > >>allergy--gross skin scabs and welts if anything with nickel, including > > > >>sterling silver, touches her skin. > > > >> > > > >>I can understand that allergies to iodine usually aren't, but all > > > >>allergies are not to proteins. > > > >> > > > >>Adrienne in Texas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > > > --A.J. Muste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ >--A.J. Muste > > > > >-- >Ariel Monserrat >Publisher & Managing Editor >Green Egg zine ><http://www.greeneggzine.com>www.greeneggzine.com > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 That's my understanding. A reaction involves a rash and swelling, often itching. gnarly. --V At 12:53 AM 2/21/2011, you wrote: >I think the green stuff is just a chemical reaction of cheap metals with >your sweat & body oils -- like tarnish on silver. > >Anne > > >On Feb 20, 2011, at 11:48 AM, ><mailto:Lori@...>Lori@... wrote: > >> >> >><< I've also had metal >>reactions to cheap jewelry but fortunately nothing ongoing.>> >> >> >>When I was younger and wore the kid's jewelry, I always got green rings >>around my fingers. I also had trouble with some earrings and finally >>stopped wearing them years ago. What would cause that? I'm sure it was >>some allergy, but never thought about it when I was young. >> >> >>Lori ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 I just wanted to be sure it wasn’t something else going on – thanks Anne! I stopped even wearing nicer earrings years ago because they would hurt/cause my ears to be itchy. They were an actual silver or gold – not the cheap metal. I have never had trouble though with my wedding ring. Lori Re: Re: Allergies and proteins Ok. But, since many sources out on the web continue to say " you cannot have an allergic reaction to a non-protein source " , what is actually going on? It sounds like maybe the " non protein " rule actually simply not the case and is outdated/outmoded? I've been through my own issues with allergens, where doctors would deny it was an allergy, but they have all been protein issues. I've also had metal reactions to cheap jewelry but fortunately nothing ongoing. I'm also allergic to sulfa drugs but I had assumed it was something protein-like in them. I'm still highly skeptical that anyone is allergic to iodine since it is required for life. I had a skin reaction to betadine 20 years ago from when I was told to soak in it constantly for a bad cat bite (which led to the medical personnel telling me I had an allergy to iodine), but I've never had another reaction to betadine (have had minimal exposure) and no reactions at all to Lugol's or Iodoral, whether internal or transdermal. -- At 10:10 AM 2/19/2011, you wrote: >It is possible to be allergic to metals. The IgE are >activated. ><http://www.humanillnesses.com/original/A-As/Allergies.html>http://www.humanillnesses.com/original/A-As/Allergies.html >http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Allergies/nickelallergy.htm > > Buist, ND > > > Re: Allergies and proteins > > > >: > >I would disagree with you as people can be allergic to metals which they >usually react to via the skin. Silver and gold are not pure metals, but >alloys that have other metals in them (usually including nickel, copper or >whatever else they throw in the mix). People can have other reactions to >metals as well. That's why a person reacts because the body's immune >system has kicked in response to an allergen. > >I would suggest to anyone with any type of allergy to seek out a NAET >provider in his/her area (NAET.com which stands for Nambudripad Allergy >Elimination Techniques). There are lots of testimonies in the book ( " Say >Goodbye to Illness " ) for countless conditions that have been remedied or >cured once the person was treated for the allergen. At times he/she may >not know what the allergen may be. There are stories of people who had >pain in their body and it was traced back to the jewelery (gold, diamonds >etc) they wore. > >I can tell you from personal experience that my tolerance for iodine was >increased once I was treated for it by my NAET provider. Once treated I no >longer had negative reactions from it such as severe fatigue (almost like >depression) and tearfulness. She also treated my thyroid which helped as >well. The majority of people who have allergies or are severely sick >aren't able to absorb the vitamins and minerals, but NAET helps with that >so his/her condition improves. I am a living example. > >Laurie > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >>If proteins are required for allergic reactions, then what explains the > > >>allergy to nickel? I have a friend with that and it is a very real > > >>allergy--gross skin scabs and welts if anything with nickel, including > > >>sterling silver, touches her skin. > > >> > > >>I can understand that allergies to iodine usually aren't, but all > > >>allergies are not to proteins. > > >> > > >>Adrienne in Texas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > > --A.J. Muste > > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Now hurting & itching IS a reaction. Even silver & gold earrings are not PURE silver & gold. There are other metals added to make them easier to work ( & cheaper to make) That is why you see gold described as 10 karat or 14 karat or whatever. Pure gold is 24 karat. You don't often see 24 karat gold jewelry. (I think they may sell some in the Middle East. Traditionally brides were given gold jewelry as sort of a hedge against divorce. If her husband divorced her, she could sell her wedding jewelry to live off of, in lieu of alimony.) Ten karat gold is only 10 parts of gold to 14 parts other metals -- & they don't usually tell you what the other metals are.AnneOn Feb 21, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Lori@... wrote: I just wanted to be sure it wasn’t something else going on – thanks Anne! I stopped even wearing nicer earrings years ago because they would hurt/cause my ears to be itchy. They were an actual silver or gold – not the cheap metal. I have never had trouble though with my wedding ring. Lori Re: Re: Allergies and proteins Ok. But, since many sources out on the web continue to say "you cannot have an allergic reaction to a non-protein source", what is actually going on? It sounds like maybe the "non protein" rule actually simply not the case and is outdated/outmoded? I've been through my own issues with allergens, where doctors would deny it was an allergy, but they have all been protein issues. I've also had metal reactions to cheap jewelry but fortunately nothing ongoing. I'm also allergic to sulfa drugs but I had assumed it was something protein-like in them. I'm still highly skeptical that anyone is allergic to iodine since it is required for life. I had a skin reaction to betadine 20 years ago from when I was told to soak in it constantly for a bad cat bite (which led to the medical personnel telling me I had an allergy to iodine), but I've never had another reaction to betadine (have had minimal exposure) and no reactions at all to Lugol's or Iodoral, whether internal or transdermal. -- At 10:10 AM 2/19/2011, you wrote: >It is possible to be allergic to metals. The IgE are >activated. ><http://www.humanillnesses.com/original/A-As/Allergies.html>http://www.humanillnesses.com/original/A-As/Allergies.html >http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Allergies/nickelallergy.htm > > Buist, ND > > > Re: Allergies and proteins > > > >: > >I would disagree with you as people can be allergic to metals which they >usually react to via the skin. Silver and gold are not pure metals, but >alloys that have other metals in them (usually including nickel, copper or >whatever else they throw in the mix). People can have other reactions to >metals as well. That's why a person reacts because the body's immune >system has kicked in response to an allergen. > >I would suggest to anyone with any type of allergy to seek out a NAET >provider in his/her area (NAET.com which stands for Nambudripad Allergy >Elimination Techniques). There are lots of testimonies in the book ("Say >Goodbye to Illness") for countless conditions that have been remedied or >cured once the person was treated for the allergen. At times he/she may >not know what the allergen may be. There are stories of people who had >pain in their body and it was traced back to the jewelery (gold, diamonds >etc) they wore. > >I can tell you from personal experience that my tolerance for iodine was >increased once I was treated for it by my NAET provider. Once treated I no >longer had negative reactions from it such as severe fatigue (almost like >depression) and tearfulness. She also treated my thyroid which helped as >well. The majority of people who have allergies or are severely sick >aren't able to absorb the vitamins and minerals, but NAET helps with that >so his/her condition improves. I am a living example. > >Laurie > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >>If proteins are required for allergic reactions, then what explains the > > >>allergy to nickel? I have a friend with that and it is a very real > > >>allergy--gross skin scabs and welts if anything with nickel, including > > >>sterling silver, touches her skin. > > >> > > >>I can understand that allergies to iodine usually aren't, but all > > >>allergies are not to proteins. > > >> > > >>Adrienne in Texas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > > --A.J. Muste > > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 How much potassium bicarbonate have you been using?AnneOn Feb 21, 2011, at 12:53 AM, Baker wrote: Potassium is a good thing but it's not required for the iodine protocol. However, our bodies use something like 5 GRAMS of potassium a day, and it's unlikely very many of us are even getting that much. One can easily take 2grams a day and be safe. I think the best supplement for potassium is potassium bicarbonate. In that form, which I bought as a powder at Beyond A Century, it improves the micro-balance of the body toward alkaline. So that form is a two-fer. My husband resists supplements but he has been taking the pot. bicarb. for a year and he's been getting more youthful looking. I think it helps him feel good, because he remains faithful to it. The iodine protocol is: Iodine Vit C Magnesium Selenium Unrefined salt Plus it's nice to have the B vite combo, which I can't remember offhand. -- At 11:14 AM 2/20/2011, you wrote: >I read a post yesterday about potassium but can't find it - something >about if you are on the iodine protocol, you should be taking potassium as >well. I'm pretty sure i'm low but don't have $ for a test for about a >month. how much should I be taking to start off with? > >On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Baker ><<mailto:vbaker@...>vbaker@...> wrote: > > >Ok. But, since many sources out on the web continue to say "you cannot >have an allergic reaction to a non-protein source", what is actually going >on? It sounds like maybe the "non protein" rule actually simply not the >case and is outdated/outmoded? > >I've been through my own issues with allergens, where doctors would deny it >was an allergy, but they have all been protein issues. I've also had metal >reactions to cheap jewelry but fortunately nothing ongoing. I'm also >allergic to sulfa drugs but I had assumed it was something protein-like in >them. > >I'm still highly skeptical that anyone is allergic to iodine since it is >required for life. I had a skin reaction to betadine 20 years ago from >when I was told to soak in it constantly for a bad cat bite (which led to >the medical personnel telling me I had an allergy to iodine), but I've >never had another reaction to betadine (have had minimal exposure) and no >reactions at all to Lugol's or Iodoral, whether internal or transdermal. > >-- > > >At 10:10 AM 2/19/2011, you wrote: > > >It is possible to be allergic to metals. The IgE are > >activated. > ><<http://www.humanillnesses.com/original/A-As/Allergies.html>http://www.h > umanillnesses.com/original/A-As/Allergies.html>http://www.humanillnesses.com/original/A-As/Allergies.html > > ><http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Allergies/nickelallergy.htm>http://www. > corrosion-doctors.org/Allergies/nickelallergy.htm > > > > Buist, ND > > > > > > Re: Allergies and proteins > > > > > > > >: > > > >I would disagree with you as people can be allergic to metals which they > >usually react to via the skin. Silver and gold are not pure metals, but > >alloys that have other metals in them (usually including nickel, copper or > >whatever else they throw in the mix). People can have other reactions to > >metals as well. That's why a person reacts because the body's immune > >system has kicked in response to an allergen. > > > >I would suggest to anyone with any type of allergy to seek out a NAET > >provider in his/her area (NAET.com which stands for Nambudripad Allergy > >Elimination Techniques). There are lots of testimonies in the book ("Say > >Goodbye to Illness") for countless conditions that have been remedied or > >cured once the person was treated for the allergen. At times he/she may > >not know what the allergen may be. There are stories of people who had > >pain in their body and it was traced back to the jewelery (gold, diamonds > >etc) they wore. > > > >I can tell you from personal experience that my tolerance for iodine was > >increased once I was treated for it by my NAET provider. Once treated I no > >longer had negative reactions from it such as severe fatigue (almost like > >depression) and tearfulness. She also treated my thyroid which helped as > >well. The majority of people who have allergies or are severely sick > >aren't able to absorb the vitamins and minerals, but NAET helps with that > >so his/her condition improves. I am a living example. > > > >Laurie > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>If proteins are required for allergic reactions, then what explains the > > > >>allergy to nickel? I have a friend with that and it is a very real > > > >>allergy--gross skin scabs and welts if anything with nickel, including > > > >>sterling silver, touches her skin. > > > >> > > > >>I can understand that allergies to iodine usually aren't, but all > > > >>allergies are not to proteins. > > > >> > > > >>Adrienne in Texas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > > > --A.J. Muste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ >--A.J. Muste > > > > >-- >Ariel Monserrat >Publisher & Managing Editor >Green Egg zine ><http://www.greeneggzine.com>www.greeneggzine.com > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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