Re: T3 and iodine question

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That is not true at all. Biochemically impossible. Ask them to show the mechanism by which T3 inhibits iodine uptake. We should not have to prove the normal function. That's just nuts.

T3 and iodine question

"taking T3 will cause the body to not absorb Iodine present in the lugol's"is a thread on CureZone at the moment. No one has yet to explain why. I know this idea isn't supported here. Why?Thanks,Joan

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After nearly three years of reading about iodine as I understand it the only thing that can inhibit the absorption of iodine in the body is total iodine saturation or bromide and flouride on the iodine receptors.

In my opinion someone is mixing up iodine absorption by the thyroid with iodine absorption in the rest of the body.

MacGilchrist

From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>iodine Sent: Mon, 21 February, 2011 18:49:54Subject: Re: T3 and iodine question

That is not true at all. Biochemically impossible. Ask them to show the mechanism by which T3 inhibits iodine uptake. We should not have to prove the normal function. That's just nuts.

T3 and iodine question

"taking T3 will cause the body to not absorb Iodine present in the lugol's"is a thread on CureZone at the moment. No one has yet to explain why. I know this idea isn't supported here. Why?Thanks,Joan

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Soy and other goitrogen's also inhibit iodine absorption.

Steph

T3 and iodine question

"taking T3 will cause the body to not absorb Iodine present in the lugol's"is a thread on CureZone at the moment. No one has yet to explain why. I know this idea isn't supported here. Why?Thanks,Joan

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Dr. Flechas has said that supplemental thyroid hormone does inhibit the uptake

of iodine, and not just by the thyroid. Based on a 1976 study, for example, he

believes that thyroid hormone meds greatly increase the risk of breast cancer

(with the degree of risk elevation closely following the length of time on

thyroid meds) because they interfere the breast's ability to take in iodine:

http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=21726

http://onibasu.com/archives/cl/20168.html

http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/236/10/1124.full.pdf+html

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> That is not true at all. Biochemically impossible. Ask them to show the

mechanism by which T3 inhibits iodine uptake. We should not have to prove the

normal function. That's just nuts.

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By what mechanism does this occur?

It is not difficult to come to the conclusion that women who take thyroid meds are at greater risk of breast cancer the longer they take the meds. This would be common sense. If you have a thyroid problem you are lacking iodine and thyroid meds ONLY replace thyroid hormones, they do not provide iodine for other tissues and address the problems of lack of iodine there. Neither do they address oestrogen dominance that is also common in women with thyroid disease and breast cancer patients.

I have seen many articles that claim that women who are taking thyroid medication are more prone to breast cancer, but none of them state that it is because of the thyroid hormone. I have always believed that it was because of the underlying cause of the thyroid condition.

I have been taking quite high doses of T3 for over a year now and one of my breast nodules has just melted away during that time, going from quite prominent to difficult to detect. I don't think my breasts are having any trouble taking up the iodine I take. (50 mg/day). It would very much surprise me, however, that the women in the 1976 study got even 12mg/day in their diet, if anything much at all. That might be the problem.

MacGilchrist

From: shimonwimon <@...>iodine Sent: Tue, 22 February, 2011 14:21:31Subject: Re: T3 and iodine question

Dr. Flechas has said that supplemental thyroid hormone does inhibit the uptake of iodine, and not just by the thyroid. Based on a 1976 study, for example, he believes that thyroid hormone meds greatly increase the risk of breast cancer (with the degree of risk elevation closely following the length of time on thyroid meds) because they interfere the breast's ability to take in iodine:http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=21726http://onibasu.com/archives/cl/20168.htmlhttp://jama.ama-assn.org/content/236/10/1124.full.pdf+html--- In iodine ,

"ladybugsandbees" <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote:>> That is not true at all. Biochemically impossible. Ask them to show the mechanism by which T3 inhibits iodine uptake. We should not have to prove the normal function. That's just nuts.> > > > > T3 and iodine question> > > > "taking T3 will cause the body to not absorb Iodine present in the lugol's"> > is a thread on CureZone at the moment. No one has yet to explain why. I know this idea isn't supported here. Why?> > Thanks,> Joan>

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dr rind recomends to smear the breast with 1% iodine

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 2:39 PM, MacGilchrist <s.macgilxrist@...> wrote:

 

By what mechanism does this occur?

 

It is not difficult to come to the conclusion that women who take thyroid meds are at greater risk of breast cancer the longer they take the meds.  This would be common sense.  If you have a thyroid problem you are lacking iodine and thyroid meds ONLY replace thyroid hormones, they do not provide iodine for other tissues and address the problems of lack of iodine there.  Neither do they address oestrogen dominance that is also common in women with thyroid disease and breast cancer patients. 

I have seen many articles that claim that women who are taking thyroid medication are more prone to breast cancer, but none of them state that it is because of the thyroid hormone.  I have always believed that it was because of the underlying cause of the thyroid condition.

 

I have been taking quite high doses of T3 for over a year now and one of my breast nodules has just melted away during that time, going from quite prominent to difficult to detect.  I don't think my breasts are having any trouble taking up the iodine I take. (50 mg/day).  It would very much surprise me, however, that the women in the 1976 study got even 12mg/day in their diet, if anything much at all.  That might be the problem.

 

MacGilchrist

From: shimonwimon <@...>iodine

Sent: Tue, 22 February, 2011 14:21:31Subject: Re: T3 and iodine question

 

Dr. Flechas has said that supplemental thyroid hormone does inhibit the uptake of iodine, and not just by the thyroid. Based on a 1976 study, for example, he believes that thyroid hormone meds greatly increase the risk of breast cancer (with the degree of risk elevation closely following the length of time on thyroid meds) because they interfere the breast's ability to take in iodine:

http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=21726http://onibasu.com/archives/cl/20168.html

http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/236/10/1124.full.pdf+html--- In iodine , " ladybugsandbees " <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote:

>> That is not true at all. Biochemically impossible. Ask them to show the mechanism by which T3 inhibits iodine uptake. We should not have to prove the normal function. That's just nuts.> >

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Please post what you find, . This is a most important subject, and not well

known.

If thyroid hormone is in fact killing people, the medical profession will sure

have a lot to answer for, as the study cited below was done 35 years ago and

they're still doing things the same way, including advising patients to avoid

iodine.

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Just one thing that occured to me. To take T3 you have to keep up a constant level by taking it three or four times a day. To take T4 you have to take one tablet a day. At night nobody takes anything. So T4 would peak during the day and then go into a decline over 24 hour period. T3 would probably be constant during the day but decline at night whether you are taking a tablet or manufacturing it from T4. So the supplemental hormone would be low at night at least in both cases. Would this make it possible for the other iodine using tissues in the body to take up iodine?

MacGilchrist

From: shimonwimon <@...>iodine Sent: Tue, 22 February, 2011 19:13:39Subject: Re: T3 and iodine question

Please post what you find, . This is a most important subject, and not well known. If thyroid hormone is in fact killing people, the medical profession will sure have a lot to answer for, as the study cited below was done 35 years ago and they're still doing things the same way, including advising patients to avoid iodine.> >> >> >> > That is not true at all. Biochemically impossible. Ask them to show the > >> >mechanism by which T3 inhibits iodine uptake. We should not have to prove the > >> >> >normal function. That's just nuts.> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > T3 and iodine question> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > "taking T3 will cause the body to not absorb Iodine present in the lugol's"> >> > > >> > is a thread on CureZone at the moment. No one has yet to explain why. I know > >> >> >this idea isn't supported here. Why?> >> > > >> > Thanks,> >> > Joan> >> >> >>> >> >>

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There were quite a few posts regarding this about 4 years ago, check for posts that started in early July, 2007.LinnOn Feb 22, 2011, at 12:13 PM, shimonwimon wrote:

Please post what you find, . This is a most important subject, and not well known.

If thyroid hormone is in fact killing people, the medical profession will sure have a lot to answer for, as the study cited below was done 35 years ago and they're still doing things the same way, including advising patients to avoid iodine.

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One thing to keep in mind is that this study would have been about those taking

Synthroid or synthetic thyroid meds.

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Interesting thought. I never thought of that but I am not sure it is the T3 that inhibits absorption.

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