Re: Thyroid Carcinoma Solution

[Guest guest]

Whether you decide to try to heal naturally or remove the gland has to be a personal decision. The protocol to heal naturally is the protocol outlined in the new member document in the files but the iodine is taking in dosages of 100 mgs or more. You will also need to concentrate on nutrient dense foods and detoxification. There is no magic to healing from cancer. You need to nourish the body and clean the toxins. I removed my thyroid, did 3 RAI's and still had cancer returning for the 4th time. It wasn't until I focused on the items I listed above that I healed. So removal and RAI was not the magic treatment that is touted by the medical establishment. You can read my story on www.naturalthyroidchoices.com

Buist, ND

Thyroid Carcinoma Solution

Experienced Folks,

Should one go the direct path towards total thyroidectomy and then follow natural / healthy diet and exercise with supplements etc (in lieu of RAI)

OR, no thyroidectomy and begin with natural healing process, if any exists ??

Any knowledgeable naturopath doctor / care provider that has successfully treated this type if cancer in the Dallas, Texas area that you are aware of ?

Also homeopathy treatment any good for this type of issue ??

Please share your experience as we are very confused and surgery is scheduled within 2 wks timeframe.

Thanks in advance.

SAJ

[Guest guest]

Nobody can make this decision for you. You have to go with what feels safest to you. My bias is definitely to go to allopathic care as the last resort, so bear that in mind as I continue.If you let them destroy your thyroid, you will be drug dependent the rest of your life. Do you have good insurance? Will you always have good insurance? (My husband is coming up on retirement, & all his friends are telling him that medical costs/medical insurance are the worst problem of being retired. Pensions are going bankrupt & SS is in jeopardy. Many seniors have to choose between buying drugs & buying food.) What happens to the availability of thyroid replacement if there is a big disaster or war or whatever?If you read on various fora where people talk about life after thyroid loss, the uniform complaint is that they often don't feel well -- that the drugs are unsatisfactory. (Which leads you back to the first point -- you HAVE to have the drugs, even though they are unsatisfactory.)Steph, the list owner, has reported many times that only iodine supplementation (along with other natural approaches) got rid of her thyroid cancer after allopathic treatment failed -- more than once.If I were in your shoes, I would definitely postpone surgery, actively pursue the iodine protocol (including both internal & external iodine), investigate other natural therapies, & reevaluate in a few months. I am not saying that this is what you should do. That is a call for you to make. If you feel safer trusting the docs, that's what you should do.It is hard to get good info from your doctor to help you make this choice, because they always tell you that there is not a minute to lose. Most cancers take years to develop, so this argument always seems bogus to me. The average doc is just not going to support you in waiting a couple months to see what you can do.If you are going to try natural approaches, I would start right away, because they tend to work more slowly. You want to give yourself time enough to see if you think they will make a difference. Even if you decide that you still want to go allopathic, you should start painting your neck with iodine this very night, to get whatever protection it might offer while you are waiting. (It's OK to dither, but do something proactive while you do it.)Good luck.AnneOn Feb 23, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Sajjad Ansari wrote: Experienced Folks,Should one go the direct path towards total thyroidectomy and then follow natural / healthy diet and exercise with supplements etc (in lieu of RAI)OR, no thyroidectomy and begin with natural healing process, if any exists ?? Any knowledgeable naturopath doctor / care provider that has successfully treated this type if cancer in the Dallas, Texas area that you are aware of ?Also homeopathy treatment any good for this type of issue ?? Please share your experience as we are very confused and surgery is scheduled within 2 wks timeframe.Thanks in advance.SAJ

[Guest guest]

I agree with and Anne. Also remember that blood goes through the thyroid every 17 minutes, so once one starts a healthy organic, toxic free diet, along with the Iodine protocol, all those good materials are moving through the system. Painting the neck with iodine is good too. Speaking for myself, 25 years ago I was told I needed my thyroid removed because of a Hurthle cell tumour; instead I did the Gerson Therapy....check them out at www.gerson.org. They have had many patients healed from all forms of cancer, including thyroid. Thyroid cancers are slow growing,most found have been there for a long time before discovered ; you have time to do research. Now with the advent of the internet you have so many places to research and make an informed decision. Doing your own research is very empowering, I know it is for me. Again, this is a decision only you can make, and investigating various forms of alternative medicine can only give you more strength to make that decision. Kathleen

Re: Thyroid Carcinoma Solution

Nobody can make this decision for you. You have to go with what feels safest to you. My bias is definitely to go to allopathic care as the last resort, so bear that in mind as I continue.

If you let them destroy your thyroid, you will be drug dependent the rest of your life. Do you have good insurance? Will you always have good insurance? (My husband is coming up on retirement, & all his friends are telling him that medical costs/medical insurance are the worst problem of being retired. Pensions are going bankrupt & SS is in jeopardy. Many seniors have to choose between buying drugs & buying food.) What happens to the availability of thyroid replacement if there is a big disaster or war or whatever?

If you read on various fora where people talk about life after thyroid loss, the uniform complaint is that they often don't feel well -- that the drugs are unsatisfactory. (Which leads you back to the first point -- you HAVE to have the drugs, even though they are unsatisfactory.)

Steph, the list owner, has reported many times that only iodine supplementation (along with other natural approaches) got rid of her thyroid cancer after allopathic treatment failed -- more than once.

If I were in your shoes, I would definitely postpone surgery, actively pursue the iodine protocol (including both internal & external iodine), investigate other natural therapies, & reevaluate in a few months. I am not saying that this is what you should do. That is a call for you to make. If you feel safer trusting the docs, that's what you should do.

It is hard to get good info from your doctor to help you make this choice, because they always tell you that there is not a minute to lose. Most cancers take years to develop, so this argument always seems bogus to me. The average doc is just not going to support you in waiting a couple months to see what you can do.

If you are going to try natural approaches, I would start right away, because they tend to work more slowly. You want to give yourself time enough to see if you think they will make a difference. Even if you decide that you still want to go allopathic, you should start painting your neck with iodine this very night, to get whatever protection it might offer while you are waiting. (It's OK to dither, but do something proactive while you do it.)

Good luck.

Anne

On Feb 23, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Sajjad Ansari wrote:

Experienced Folks,

Should one go the direct path towards total thyroidectomy and then follow natural / healthy diet and exercise with supplements etc (in lieu of RAI) OR, no thyroidectomy and begin with natural healing process, if any exists ??

Any knowledgeable naturopath doctor / care provider that has successfully treated this type if cancer in the Dallas, Texas area that you are aware of ?

Also homeopathy treatment any good for this type of issue ??

Please share your experience as we are very confused and surgery is scheduled within 2 wks timeframe.

Thanks in advance.

SAJ

[Guest guest]

Thanks Anne and ....

My wife would like to try out the natural path versus jumping into the

hands of a doctor...She's had the lump/tumor visible for about 2 years

now (never thought anything of it) until this past December when a

chiropractor noticed it and she advised to get biopsy done and from

there onwards we visited a slew of doctors who are saying that we

could wait 2-3 months (not more) to get the surgery done...

Not sure what an Iodine protocol is (external and internal)...

Know of any naturopath docs in Dallas, Texas area that we could visit ??

Thanks

[Guest guest]

In making a decision about this, it's important to realize that apparently the

great majority of thyroid cancers will never do any harm, regardless of whether

they are treated or not. It may surprise you to learn that if doctors looked

hard enough, almost everyone would have thyroid cancer. But only a very small

number of people die from it (about 1,600 a year in the U.S.). That number,

corrected for population growth, has barely changed in the last 30 years, even

though the rate of thyroid cancer diagnosis has skyrocketed to about 37,000 per

year because doctors are looking for it more. The great majority of those

diagnoses are really overdiagnoses: diagnosing cancers that will never hurt the

person. The same phenomenon, to differing degrees, occurs with some other

cancers, including prostate and breast cancer. Unfortunately, doctors usually

don't tell patients about this very important problem of overdiagnosis.

Only you can decide what to do, since there is a small chance you are one of the

unlucky ones whose thyroid cancer really is dangerous. You have to weigh that

against the considerable risks and known harms of the treatments to remove or

destroy your thyroid. And against the possibility that a nutritional program

including iodine could protect you if your cancer is in fact a dangerous one. I

don't think there's one right decision for everybody.

Of course, your specific situation and your level of risk might be quite

different than the average one as described above. That's an important thing to

talk over with your doctor.

I highly recommend the work Dr. Gilbert Welch of Dartmouth for more on this (the

info above is from his recent book, " Overdiagnosed: Making People Sick in the

Pursuit of Health; " his earlier book, " Should I Be Tested for Cancer: Maybe Not

and Here's Why " is also quite relevant and eye-opening).

Good luck in deciding what is best for you!

Bill

>

> Experienced Folks,

>

> Should one go the direct path towards total thyroidectomy and then follow

> natural / healthy diet and exercise with supplements etc (in lieu of RAI)

> OR, no thyroidectomy and begin with natural healing process, if any exists

> ??

>

> Any knowledgeable naturopath doctor / care provider that has successfully

> treated this type if cancer in the Dallas, Texas area that you are aware of

> ?

> Also homeopathy treatment any good for this type of issue ??

>

> Please share your experience as we are very confused and surgery is

> scheduled within 2 wks timeframe.

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> SAJ

>

[Guest guest]

Kathleen,

Was your tumor malignant? Is it gone now? If so, how long did it take before

you saw a change? What did your doctor say when you refused surgery and after

your alternative treatment?

Pamela

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>

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> Experienced Folks,

>

>

>

> Should one go the direct path towards total thyroidectomy and then follow

natural / healthy diet and exercise with supplements etc (in lieu of RAI)

> OR, no thyroidectomy and begin with natural healing process, if any exists

??

>

>

> Any knowledgeable naturopath doctor / care provider that has successfully

treated this type if cancer in the Dallas, Texas area that you are aware of ?

> Also homeopathy treatment any good for this type of issue ??

>

>

> Please share your experience as we are very confused and surgery is

scheduled within 2 wks timeframe.

>

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

>

> SAJ

>

[Guest guest]

Pamela,

Yes, a nodule with Hurthle cells is considered malignant, however as with all biopsies, they don't really know the extent of things with the nodule until they operate and take it out. The endo scared me and told me it was very important for me to have my thyroid removed in the next month! This biopsy was over 25 years ago and I decided to do research (in books as this was before I was on the internet) and finally found the Gerson Therapy which I did full force for over two years and have been very strict with my diet ever since. I never went back to the endo or had another biopsy as I was feeling very healthy all those years. and it wasn’t until last March that I noticed difficulty swallowing, the nodule had grown and I went to a ENT doctor and we decided I needed to have it removed. I felt bad having to have it out, but also was glad that for 25 years I was able to keep my thyroid. The doctor was sure it would be cancerous and was very surprised when the lab report came back a few days later with 'no malignancy'. And there were NO Hurthle cells. I now realize that if I had been taking even more Lugol's than I was during those 25 years, I perhaps would never have come to the point of having to have it out because of its size. My doctor is amazed that there was no cancer and I have since given him Dr. Brownsteins book as well as Stop The Thyroid Madness...he is a young doctor and very open..I hope this will help him help his patients. For example, he was taught to only prescribe synthroid, but was kind enough to prescribe Naturethroid for me as I had been taking natural thyroid hormone for all these years and he sees how well I am doing. Hope that answers your questions. Best, Kathleen

Re: Thyroid Carcinoma Solution

Kathleen,Was your tumor malignant? Is it gone now? If so, how long did it take before you saw a change? What did your doctor say when you refused surgery and after your alternative treatment?Pamela> > > > Experienced Folks,> > > > Should one go the direct path towards total thyroidectomy and then follow natural / healthy diet and exercise with supplements etc (in lieu of RAI) > OR, no thyroidectomy and begin with natural healing process, if any exists ??> > > Any knowledgeable naturopath doctor / care provider that has successfully treated this type if cancer in the Dallas, Texas area that you are aware of ?> Also homeopathy treatment any good for this type of issue ??> > > Please share your experience as we are very confused and surgery is scheduled within 2 wks timeframe.> > > Thanks in advance.> > > SAJ>

[Guest guest]

Kathleen did you remove your thyroid or just the nodule? I didn't know this about you.

Buist, ND

Owner

Re: Thyroid Carcinoma Solution

Kathleen,Was your tumor malignant? Is it gone now? If so, how long did it take before you saw a change? What did your doctor say when you refused surgery and after your alternative treatment?Pamela> > > > Experienced Folks,> > > > Should one go the direct path towards total thyroidectomy and then follow natural / healthy diet and exercise with supplements etc (in lieu of RAI) > OR, no thyroidectomy and begin with natural healing process, if any exists ??> > > Any knowledgeable naturopath doctor / care provider that has successfully treated this type if cancer in the Dallas, Texas area that you are aware of ?> Also homeopathy treatment any good for this type of issue ??> > > Please share your experience as we are very confused and surgery is scheduled within 2 wks timeframe.> > > Thanks in advance.> > > SAJ>

[Guest guest]

Thanks to everyone for their honest and thorough explanation of the options.....I will research more and visit some good docs around the area...Kathleen, please share with us with your experience with Gerson Therapy ??

I will send u a unicast email to discuss it further for my wife if you don't mind...ThanksSajjad

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 5:36 AM, ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote:

 

Kathleen did you remove your thyroid or just the nodule?  I didn't know this about you. 

 

Buist, ND

Owner

 

 

Re: Thyroid Carcinoma Solution

 

Kathleen,Was your tumor malignant? Is it gone now? If so, how long did it take before you saw a change? What did your doctor say when you refused surgery and after your alternative treatment?Pamela> > > > Experienced Folks,> > > > Should one go the direct path towards total thyroidectomy and then follow natural / healthy diet and exercise with supplements etc (in lieu of RAI) > OR, no thyroidectomy and begin with natural healing process, if any exists ??> > > Any knowledgeable naturopath doctor / care provider that has successfully treated this type if cancer in the Dallas, Texas area that you are aware of ?> Also homeopathy treatment any good for this type of issue ??> > > Please share your experience as we are very confused and surgery is scheduled within 2 wks timeframe.> > > Thanks in advance.> > > SAJ>

[Guest guest]

, yes sadly they removed my thyroid. However I am doing great with 3 grains Naturethroid daily, my iodine and healthy diet. And all those years I never knew if what I was doing was working so having the 'no malignancy' report was validation for me. I wrote a longer version of this journey when Tammy asked me to tell my story last year, but didn’t want to give people too much to read this time. =-) Kathleen

Re: Thyroid Carcinoma Solution

Kathleen,Was your tumor malignant? Is it gone now? If so, how long did it take before you saw a change? What did your doctor say when you refused surgery and after your alternative treatment?Pamela> > > > Experienced Folks,> > > > Should one go the direct path towards total thyroidectomy and then follow natural / healthy diet and exercise with supplements etc (in lieu of RAI) > OR, no thyroidectomy and begin with natural healing process, if any exists ??> > > Any knowledgeable naturopath doctor / care provider that has successfully treated this type if cancer in the Dallas, Texas area that you are aware of ?> Also homeopathy treatment any good for this type of issue ??> > > Please share your experience as we are very confused and surgery is scheduled within 2 wks timeframe.> > > Thanks in advance.> > > SAJ>

[Guest guest]

Hello Sajjad,

The best place for you to start is to go to www.gerson.org and read their whole site. You can also call them, they are located in southern California; phone number is on their site. The Gerson therapy has cured cancer patients of many kinds of cancer and they can put you in contact patients who are willing to share their stories with people via the telephone.

The therapy is a nutritional therapy, daily organic vegetable juices and organic vegetarian meals, Lugol's solution, thyroid, coffee enemas to help with detoxification. It is very time consuming, but if one has the time to make the fresh juices daily, prepare the meals and do the coffee enemas, the rewards are great. They have found that not only do their patients heal from cancer, other problems also disappear, such as arthritis, fibromyalgia, migraines, etc, because the body does not heal selectively. Please check them out. Kathleen

Re: Thyroid Carcinoma Solution

Kathleen,Was your tumor malignant? Is it gone now? If so, how long did it take before you saw a change? What did your doctor say when you refused surgery and after your alternative treatment?Pamela> > > > Experienced Folks,> > > > Should one go the direct path towards total thyroidectomy and then follow natural / healthy diet and exercise with supplements etc (in lieu of RAI) > OR, no thyroidectomy and begin with natural healing process, if any exists ??> > > Any knowledgeable naturopath doctor / care provider that has successfully treated this type if cancer in the Dallas, Texas area that you are aware of ?> Also homeopathy treatment any good for this type of issue ??> > > Please share your experience as we are very confused and surgery is scheduled within 2 wks timeframe.> > > Thanks in advance.> > > SAJ>

[Guest guest]

Saj - It is a very difficult decision to have the thyroid out as I am also in the same situation as your wife in that I have papillary cancer and have decided to do some natural healing first although as I have said before on this forum, it is hard to keep strong and move away from having the surgery totally - I feel I need to make the decision on whether to go ahead in the next few months after a year of doing natural therapies (iodine and others) as although the lump hasn't grown, it hasn't shrunk either. How long can one realistically continue? I think the emotional side has got to be the hardest thing to deal with and I've yet to see and read about people who do really well once the thyroid is removed! The after care for me seems to be the part that goes the most

wrong. However, I know it's a risk to continue with this indefinitely.

So Kathleen as you had your thyroid removed and it had no malignancy, that must have been a blow to you, surely? That's one of my biggest fears.

From: Kathleen Blake <kathleenblake@...>iodine Sent: Thu, 24 February, 2011 18:43:50Subject: Re: Re: Thyroid Carcinoma Solution

, yes sadly they removed my thyroid. However I am doing great with 3 grains Naturethroid daily, my iodine and healthy diet. And all those years I never knew if what I was doing was working so having the 'no malignancy' report was validation for me. I wrote a longer version of this journey when Tammy asked me to tell my story last year, but didn’t want to give people too much to read this time. =-) Kathleen

Re: Thyroid Carcinoma Solution

Kathleen,Was your tumor malignant? Is it gone now? If so, how long did it take before you saw a change? What did your doctor say when you refused surgery and after your alternative treatment?Pamela> > > > Experienced Folks,> > > > Should one go the direct path towards total thyroidectomy and then follow natural / healthy diet and exercise with supplements etc (in lieu of RAI) > OR, no thyroidectomy and begin with natural healing process, if any exists ??> > > Any knowledgeable naturopath doctor / care provider that has successfully treated this type if cancer in the Dallas, Texas area that you are aware of ?> Also homeopathy treatment any good for this type of issue ??> > > Please share your experience as we are very confused and surgery is scheduled within 2 wks timeframe.> > > Thanks in advance.> > > SAJ>

[Guest guest]

This is interesting Bill, so how do we know whether the type of cancer we have is the dangerous type or not - that's the million dollar question surely?

(currently with papillary cancer)

From: shimonwimon <@...>iodine Sent: Wed, 23 February, 2011 23:14:34Subject: Re: Thyroid Carcinoma Solution

In making a decision about this, it's important to realize that apparently the great majority of thyroid cancers will never do any harm, regardless of whether they are treated or not. It may surprise you to learn that if doctors looked hard enough, almost everyone would have thyroid cancer. But only a very small number of people die from it (about 1,600 a year in the U.S.). That number, corrected for population growth, has barely changed in the last 30 years, even though the rate of thyroid cancer diagnosis has skyrocketed to about 37,000 per year because doctors are looking for it more. The great majority of those diagnoses are really overdiagnoses: diagnosing cancers that will never hurt the person. The same phenomenon, to differing degrees, occurs with some other cancers, including prostate and breast cancer. Unfortunately, doctors usually don't tell patients about this very important problem of overdiagnosis.Only you can decide what to do,

since there is a small chance you are one of the unlucky ones whose thyroid cancer really is dangerous. You have to weigh that against the considerable risks and known harms of the treatments to remove or destroy your thyroid. And against the possibility that a nutritional program including iodine could protect you if your cancer is in fact a dangerous one. I don't think there's one right decision for everybody. Of course, your specific situation and your level of risk might be quite different than the average one as described above. That's an important thing to talk over with your doctor. I highly recommend the work Dr. Gilbert Welch of Dartmouth for more on this (the info above is from his recent book, "Overdiagnosed: Making People Sick in the Pursuit of Health;" his earlier book, "Should I Be Tested for Cancer: Maybe Not and Here's Why" is also quite relevant and eye-opening).Good luck in deciding what is best for

you!Bill>> Experienced Folks,> > Should one go the direct path towards total thyroidectomy and then follow> natural / healthy diet and exercise with supplements etc (in lieu of RAI)> OR, no thyroidectomy and begin with natural healing process, if any exists> ??> > Any knowledgeable naturopath doctor / care provider that has successfully> treated this type if cancer in the Dallas, Texas area that you are aware of> ?> Also homeopathy treatment any good for this type of issue ??> > Please share your experience as we are very confused and surgery is> scheduled within 2 wks timeframe.> > Thanks in advance.> >

SAJ>

[Guest guest]



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Well, it had been 25 years since the biopsy, of living my life in the healthiest way possible (Gerson Therapy and other modalities to keep my body detoxified and healthy with organic food, clean water, Lugol's and NTH), and all those years I never knew how the thyroid nodule was doing. So even though I was sad to lose my thyroid, it was good in the way that I found out what I had done all those years worked! Also, having the nodule all those years ago, opened up to me the whole world of natural healing, these were the years before the internet and so I slowly amassed a very large library of alternative healing books, have helped others in my community, and have invited many alternative doctors to come speak in our town.Through my studies I also learned about so many doctors ,who through the centuries, dared to look outside of the orthodox box and develop alternative therapies to help their patients, and did this even though they were persecuted and laughed at, because they knew it was the right thing to do. So I look at this in a positive way. Kathleen

Re: Thyroid Carcinoma Solution

Kathleen,Was your tumor malignant? Is it gone now? If so, how long did it take before you saw a change? What did your doctor say when you refused surgery and after your alternative treatment?Pamela> > > > Experienced Folks,> > > > Should one go the direct path towards total thyroidectomy and then follow natural / healthy diet and exercise with supplements etc (in lieu of RAI) > OR, no thyroidectomy and begin with natural healing process, if any exists ??> > > Any knowledgeable naturopath doctor / care provider that has successfully treated this type if cancer in the Dallas, Texas area that you are aware of ?> Also homeopathy treatment any good for this type of issue ??> > > Please share your experience as we are very confused and surgery is scheduled within 2 wks timeframe.> > > Thanks in advance.> > > SAJ>

[Guest guest]

In general, I don't think there's any way to distinguish the very few dangerous

ones from the much larger number of inconsequential ones. It puts patients in a

very difficult position. Dr. Welch's books talk a great deal about this and

provide some general advice. But ultimately it's a very personal choice. Good

luck!

> >

> > Experienced Folks,

> >

> > Should one go the direct path towards total thyroidectomy and then follow

> > natural / healthy diet and exercise with supplements etc (in lieu of RAI)

> > OR, no thyroidectomy and begin with natural healing process, if any exists

> > ??

> >

> > Any knowledgeable naturopath doctor / care provider that has successfully

> > treated this type if cancer in the Dallas, Texas area that you are aware of

> > ?

> > Also homeopathy treatment any good for this type of issue ??

> >

> > Please share your experience as we are very confused and surgery is

> > scheduled within 2 wks timeframe.

> >

> > Thanks in advance.

> >

> > SAJ

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Have you ever thought that your thyroid nodule may have turned into benign or

scar tissue after your one year supplementing iodine and companients. The reason

I think of this is as below:

1. Kathleen's thyroid nodue increased in size overtime but turned into benign.

2. I remember that Steph said the cancer of a friend of her was going away

within 6 months after taking 200mg iodine and companients, but the friend

freaked and eventually did the surgery. I assume her friend's nodule didn't

shrink much but turned into benign or scar tissue. If the nodule shinked a lot,

why she did the surgery?

Jen

>

> Saj - It is a very difficult decision to have the thyroid out as I am also in

> the same situation as your wife in that I have papillary cancer and have

decided

> to do some natural healing first although as I have said before on this forum,

> it is hard to keep strong and move away from having the surgery totally - I

feel

> I need to make the decision on whether to go ahead in the next few months

after

> a year of doing natural therapies (iodine and others) as although the lump

> hasn't grown, it hasn't shrunk either. How long can one realistically

continue?

>  I think the emotional side has got to be the hardest thing to deal with and

> I've yet to see and read about people who do really well once the thyroid is

> removed!  The after care for me seems to be the part that goes the most

wrong. 

> However, I know it's a risk to continue with this indefinitely. 

>

> So Kathleen as you had your thyroid removed and it had no malignancy, that

must

> have been a blow to you, surely?  That's one of my biggest fears.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The 2nd story is of a woman that had a thyroidectomy and had positive lymph nodes. There was no nodule. She was using iodine to reduce cancer in the lymph nodes.

Steph

Re: Thyroid Carcinoma Solution

Hi ,Have you ever thought that your thyroid nodule may have turned into benign or scar tissue after your one year supplementing iodine and companients. The reason I think of this is as below:1. Kathleen's thyroid nodue increased in size overtime but turned into benign.2. I remember that Steph said the cancer of a friend of her was going away within 6 months after taking 200mg iodine and companients, but the friend freaked and eventually did the surgery. I assume her friend's nodule didn't shrink much but turned into benign or scar tissue. If the nodule shinked a lot, why she did the surgery?Jen>> Saj - It is a very difficult decision to have the thyroid out as I am also in > the same situation as your wife in that I have papillary cancer and have decided > to do some natural healing first although as I have said before on this forum, > it is hard to keep strong and move away from having the surgery totally - I feel > I need to make the decision on whether to go ahead in the next few months after > a year of doing natural therapies (iodine and others) as although the lump > hasn't grown, it hasn't shrunk either. How long can one realistically continue? >  I think the emotional side has got to be the hardest thing to deal with and > I've yet to see and read about people who do really well once the thyroid is > removed! The after care for me seems to be the part that goes the most wrong. > However, I know it's a risk to continue with this indefinitely. > > So Kathleen as you had your thyroid removed and it had no malignancy, that must > have been a blow to you, surely? That's one of my biggest fears.> > > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your information. So the woman had a thyroidectomy for her cancer

first;then she took iodine for her positive lymph nodes. When she eventually

removed her lymph nodes by surgery, the lymph nodes turned out to be negative.

Is my understanding correct?

Thanks,

Jen

>

> The 2nd story is of a woman that had a thyroidectomy and had positive lymph

nodes. There was no nodule. She was using iodine to reduce cancer in the

lymph nodes.

>

> Steph

>

>

[Guest guest]

No she was watching her Tg levels which are markers for thyroid cancer. They were coming down and she still decided to remove her lymph nodes. I don't know that they were tested.

Steph

Re: Thyroid Carcinoma Solution

Thanks for your information. So the woman had a thyroidectomy for her cancer first;then she took iodine for her positive lymph nodes. When she eventually removed her lymph nodes by surgery, the lymph nodes turned out to be negative. Is my understanding correct?Thanks,Jen>> The 2nd story is of a woman that had a thyroidectomy and had positive lymph nodes. There was no nodule. She was using iodine to reduce cancer in the lymph nodes.> > Steph> >

[Guest guest]

Got it. Thanks for your clarification!

Jen

> >

> > The 2nd story is of a woman that had a thyroidectomy and had positive

lymph nodes. There was no nodule. She was using iodine to reduce cancer in the

lymph nodes.

> >

> > Steph

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yes - I have thought this - the problem is you never really know I don't think, so that is the risk you take and living with that thought is difficult as it is in your mind every day. I wish there was an easier answer...

From: <jennifer6g@...>iodine Sent: Wed, 2 March, 2011 0:11:09Subject: Re: Thyroid Carcinoma Solution

Hi ,Have you ever thought that your thyroid nodule may have turned into benign or scar tissue after your one year supplementing iodine and companients. The reason I think of this is as below:1. Kathleen's thyroid nodue increased in size overtime but turned into benign.2. I remember that Steph said the cancer of a friend of her was going away within 6 months after taking 200mg iodine and companients, but the friend freaked and eventually did the surgery. I assume her friend's nodule didn't shrink much but turned into benign or scar tissue. If the nodule shinked a lot, why she did the surgery?Jen>> Saj - It is a very difficult decision to have the thyroid out as I am also in > the same situation as your

wife in that I have papillary cancer and have decided > to do some natural healing first although as I have said before on this forum, > it is hard to keep strong and move away from having the surgery totally - I feel > I need to make the decision on whether to go ahead in the next few months after > a year of doing natural therapies (iodine and others) as although the lump > hasn't grown, it hasn't shrunk either. How long can one realistically continue? >  I think the emotional side has got to be the hardest thing to deal with and > I've yet to see and read about people who do really well once the thyroid is > removed! The after care for me seems to be the part that goes the most wrong. > However, I know it's a risk to continue with this indefinitely. > > So Kathleen as you had your thyroid removed and it had no malignancy, that

must > have been a blow to you, surely? That's one of my biggest fears.> > > >