Re: Does Iodoral cause diarrhea?

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This lady has never had low adolsterone, adrenal fatigue, or any detox.

The reason that people die from sea water is it is too much salt and not any pure water to flush it out. At least that is my understanding.

The salt is not toxic, but the amount without plain water is.

People swim in the ocean all the time and drink some of the water, but don't die.

Our body is made up of a large portion of SALT. We do need salt. Sodium and postasium are in our electrolites, but if the sodium tips too high, then the potasium goes down and cramping will result.

Goodness, God created us to be salty, lol.

Terry

From: jtmk98.535597 <lysva29798-hlth@...>iodine Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 8:12:20 AMSubject: Re: Does Iodoral cause diarrhea?

I just heard Charlotte Gerson interviewed on "The Great Health Debate". She emphatically was against every kind of salt, Sea or otherwise. She said Sea Salt is like sea water and sailors know it will poison them so they die of thirst on a ship rather than drink it.>> Kathleen,> > Yes, I don't think he understood that sea salt might be a whole > different story. I don't have his book to check on (I loaned it out), > but I did take a look just now at his daughter's book and apparently > they are still promoting the saltless diet without any mention of sea > salt. I talked about the salt because I had actually been on a saltless > diet for years before I started on the Gerson therapy, and

while the > therapy was a life-saver for me in many ways -- and I do loan his book > to people for the treasures therein -- I think all those sea-saltless > years were a big factor, not in causing my CFS (stress was likely the > major cause) but in adding to it and hindering my recovery.> > >

[Guest guest]

Theresa,

Well, this is sad to hear. Very sad, because of the great benefits

(otherwise) of the Gerson protocol -- and for more than just cancer.

I first came upon the information about sodium (not distinguishing

here between kinds of salt, because apparently even table salt can

be used to benefit in certain cases, in spite of it's many

drawbacks) in a study done on CFS patients. There was remarkable

recovery in a majority of these women with the simple addition of

table salt -- in high amounts -- to their diet. At the time I read

this study, in spite of my having struggled with CFS for more than

fifteen years, I couldn't believe it -- and made no change in my

diet. Then, about five years later, I found myself with a loss of

hearing in my right ear. Research indicated a connected loss of

aldosterone (indicating weak adrenals) and when I followed that

lead, most of the mainstream literature talked about the sodium

"stuck" in the cells (which Gerson had noted in cancer patients) and

recommended a no-salt diet-- as he had. One study, however, (also a

mainstream published) explained exactly why an intake of salt was

absolutely necessary to pull the sodium out of the cells. Finally, I

saw the light and began adding salt to my diet -- and then, after

joining this forum, I made sure it was sea salt.

I'm afraid I don't know enough, however, to say why seawater would

be detrimental (which I think is true) and not seasalt.

On 3/3/2011 5:12 AM, jtmk98.535597 wrote:

I just heard Charlotte Gerson interviewed on "The Great

Health Debate". She emphatically was against every kind of

salt, Sea or otherwise. She said Sea Salt is like sea

water and sailors know it will poison them so they die of

thirst on a ship rather than drink it.

>

> Kathleen,

>

> Yes, I don't think he understood that sea salt might

be a whole

> different story. I don't have his book to check on (I

loaned it out),

> but I did take a look just now at his daughter's book

and apparently

> they are still promoting the saltless diet without

any mention of sea

> salt. I talked about the salt because I had actually

been on a saltless

> diet for years before I started on the Gerson

therapy, and while the

> therapy was a life-saver for me in many ways -- and I

do loan his book

> to people for the treasures therein -- I think all

those sea-saltless

> years were a big factor, not in causing my CFS

(stress was likely the

> major cause) but in adding to it and hindering my

recovery.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

salt help with cfs ,i think because they are all adrenal fatigue.

in this book you can read how salt is so important for adrenal

 

Adrenal Fatigue: The 21st Century Stress Syndrome

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, clairewest <clairewest@...> wrote:

 

Theresa,Well, this is sad to hear.  Very sad, because of the great benefits (otherwise) of the Gerson protocol -- and for more than just cancer.I first came upon the information about sodium (not distinguishing here between kinds of salt, because apparently even table salt can be used to benefit in certain cases, in spite of it's many drawbacks) in a study done on CFS patients.  There was remarkable recovery in a majority of these women with the simple addition of table salt -- in high amounts -- to their diet. At the time I read this study,  in spite of my having struggled with CFS for more than fifteen years, I couldn't believe it -- and made no change in my diet.  Then, about five years later, I found myself with a loss of hearing in my right ear.  Research indicated a connected loss of aldosterone (indicating weak adrenals) and when I followed that lead, most of the mainstream literature talked about the sodium " stuck " in the cells (which Gerson had noted in cancer patients) and recommended a no-salt diet-- as he had.  One study, however, (also a mainstream published) explained exactly why an intake of salt was absolutely necessary to pull the sodium out of the cells. Finally, I saw the light and began adding salt to my diet -- and then, after joining this forum, I made sure it was sea salt.

I'm afraid I don't know enough, however, to say why seawater would be detrimental (which I think is true) and not seasalt. On 3/3/2011 5:12 AM, jtmk98.535597 wrote:  

I just heard Charlotte Gerson interviewed on " The Great Health Debate " . She emphatically was against every kind of salt, Sea or otherwise. She said Sea Salt is like sea water and sailors know it will poison them so they die of thirst on a ship rather than drink it.

>> Kathleen,

> > Yes, I don't think he understood that sea salt might be a whole > different story. I don't have his book to check on (I loaned it out), > but I did take a look just now at his daughter's book and apparently

> they are still promoting the saltless diet without any mention of sea > salt. I talked about the salt because I had actually been on a saltless > diet for years before I started on the Gerson therapy, and while the

> therapy was a life-saver for me in many ways -- and I do loan his book > to people for the treasures therein -- I think all those sea-saltless > years were a big factor, not in causing my CFS (stress was likely the

> major cause) but in adding to it and hindering my recovery.> > >

[Guest guest]

The " problem " with seawater would be if it were drunk instead of freshwater.  ie one cannot survive on it as one's only water source.

 

It is sad so many (myself included) were so sure ALL salt was bad for so long.  But that is because we were being exposed to chemically processed " table salt " which really isn't very good for us.

 

Jaxi

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:01 AM, clairewest <clairewest@...> wrote:

Theresa,Well, this is sad to hear.  Very sad, because of the great benefits (otherwise) of the Gerson protocol -- and for more than just cancer.I first came upon the information about sodium (not distinguishing here between kinds of salt, because apparently even table salt can be used to benefit in certain cases, in spite of it's many drawbacks) in a study done on CFS patients.  There was remarkable recovery in a majority of these women with the simple addition of table salt -- in high amounts -- to their diet. At the time I read this study,  in spite of my having struggled with CFS for more than fifteen years, I couldn't believe it -- and made no change in my diet.  Then, about five years later, I found myself with a loss of hearing in my right ear.  Research indicated a connected loss of aldosterone (indicating weak adrenals) and when I followed that lead, most of the mainstream literature talked about the sodium " stuck " in the cells (which Gerson had noted in cancer patients) and recommended a no-salt diet-- as he had.  One study, however, (also a mainstream published) explained exactly why an intake of salt was absolutely necessary to pull the sodium out of the cells. Finally, I saw the light and began adding salt to my diet -- and then, after joining this forum, I made sure it was sea salt.

I'm afraid I don't know enough, however, to say why seawater would be detrimental (which I think is true) and not seasalt. On 3/3/2011 5:12 AM, jtmk98.535597 wrote:  

I just heard Charlotte Gerson interviewed on " The Great Health Debate " . She emphatically was against every kind of salt, Sea or otherwise. She said Sea Salt is like sea water and sailors know it will poison them so they die of thirst on a ship rather than drink it.

>> Kathleen,

> > Yes, I don't think he understood that sea salt might be a whole > different story. I don't have his book to check on (I loaned it out), > but I did take a look just now at his daughter's book and apparently

> they are still promoting the saltless diet without any mention of sea > salt. I talked about the salt because I had actually been on a saltless > diet for years before I started on the Gerson therapy, and while the

> therapy was a life-saver for me in many ways -- and I do loan his book > to people for the treasures therein -- I think all those sea-saltless > years were a big factor, not in causing my CFS (stress was likely the

> major cause) but in adding to it and hindering my recovery.> > >

[Guest guest]

I looked into this a bit a while back.

The concentration of salt in seawater is very high. As Jaxi said, if that is

all you are relying on, it will likely cause problems.

However, there was a sailor (can't recall the name but I could probably find it)

who decided to take an ocean trip alone and without provisions...not even water.

He drank small amounts (and that was probably the key) of seawater a day. He

survived his voyage. He was not in terrific shape, but it did not kill him and

as far as I know he did not suffer organ damage.

His theory was that seawater killed people because they drank too much of it.

Jaye

> > >

> > > Kathleen,

> > >

> > > Yes, I don't think he understood that sea salt might be a whole

> > > different story. I don't have his book to check on (I loaned it out),

> > > but I did take a look just now at his daughter's book and apparently

> > > they are still promoting the saltless diet without any mention of sea

> > > salt. I talked about the salt because I had actually been on a saltless

> > > diet for years before I started on the Gerson therapy, and while the

> > > therapy was a life-saver for me in many ways -- and I do loan his book

> > > to people for the treasures therein -- I think all those sea-saltless

> > > years were a big factor, not in causing my CFS (stress was likely the

> > > major cause) but in adding to it and hindering my recovery.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Let's move this discussion to the IodineOT Group,link is provided at the bottom of this emai. Thanks! Kathleen

Re: Does Iodoral cause diarrhea?

I looked into this a bit a while back.The concentration of salt in seawater is very high. As Jaxi said, if that is all you are relying on, it will likely cause problems.However, there was a sailor (can't recall the name but I could probably find it) who decided to take an ocean trip alone and without provisions...not even water.He drank small amounts (and that was probably the key) of seawater a day. He survived his voyage. He was not in terrific shape, but it did not kill him and as far as I know he did not suffer organ damage.His theory was that seawater killed people because they drank too much of it.Jaye> > >> > > Kathleen,> > >> > > Yes, I don't think he understood that sea salt might be a whole> > > different story. I don't have his book to check on (I loaned it out),> > > but I did take a look just now at his daughter's book and apparently> > > they are still promoting the saltless diet without any mention of sea> > > salt. I talked about the salt because I had actually been on a saltless> > > diet for years before I started on the Gerson therapy, and while the> > > therapy was a life-saver for me in many ways -- and I do loan his book> > > to people for the treasures therein -- I think all those sea-saltless> > > years were a big factor, not in causing my CFS (stress was likely the> > > major cause) but in adding to it and hindering my recovery.> > >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >>

[Guest guest]

>

> I'm afraid I don't know enough, however, to say why seawater would be

> detrimental (which I think is true) and not seasalt.

>

>

>

I see an obvious difference between being at sea with no fresh water

and drinking sea water, and taking salt in water in your home where you have all

the fresh water that you can stand to drink. My understanding of salt (sodium)

is that one of the basic functions in the body is

changing the way the body holds onto water.

I know I have to give my horses lots of salt. The song birds are all over the

salt blocks. All animals need salt.

I've been afraid of salt at one time, but taking it now, as gray salt,

I do not see any swelling or weight gain or higher blood pressure. It

has helped when I have raised from 25 mgs to 37.5 mgs of Ioderal. I was feeling

nauseous and the last thing I thought I wanted was salt water, but did it ever

help!

Sue

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The concern is about at the cellular level.Cells have sodium and potassium

pumps.One pumps water into the cells the other out.Been so long since I studied

it, can't remember which.I recall reading that sea water has the same mineral

makeup as our blood.

A friend told me a story, don't know if its true.

This guy questioned the idea that drinking moderate amounts of sea water would

be harmful.He figured people stranded in life boats resisted drinking it till

they were severly dehydrated, and then gulped it.To prove his theory, he had

himself set out in a lifeboat, for 7 days or something.From day one, he drank

sea water.He was fine.

Similarly, I learned when you are treating someone who's dehydrated, don't give

them gatorade at full strength; cut it %50 with water.This is because if your

already dehydrated, you can't handle the short term effect that it will have on

your cells, of pulling water out of them; they all ready have less than optimal

amounts.Jim

>

>

> >

> > I'm afraid I don't know enough, however, to say why seawater would be

> > detrimental (which I think is true) and not seasalt.

> >

> >

> >

>

> I see an obvious difference between being at sea with no fresh water

> and drinking sea water, and taking salt in water in your home where you have

all the fresh water that you can stand to drink. My understanding of salt

(sodium) is that one of the basic functions in the body is

> changing the way the body holds onto water.

>

> I know I have to give my horses lots of salt. The song birds are all over the

salt blocks. All animals need salt.

>

> I've been afraid of salt at one time, but taking it now, as gray salt,

> I do not see any swelling or weight gain or higher blood pressure. It

> has helped when I have raised from 25 mgs to 37.5 mgs of Ioderal. I was

feeling nauseous and the last thing I thought I wanted was salt water, but did

it ever help!

>

> Sue

>

[Guest guest]

Could you please take this discussion to the Iodine Off Topic Group. Link is posted at the bottom of this email. (second request =-)....Thank you, Kathleen

Re: Does Iodoral cause diarrhea?

The concern is about at the cellular level.Cells have sodium and potassium pumps.One pumps water into the cells the other out.Been so long since I studied it, can't remember which.I recall reading that sea water has the same mineral makeup as our blood.A friend told me a story, don't know if its true.This guy questioned the idea that drinking moderate amounts of sea water would be harmful.He figured people stranded in life boats resisted drinking it till they were severly dehydrated, and then gulped it.To prove his theory, he had himself set out in a lifeboat, for 7 days or something.From day one, he drank sea water.He was fine.Similarly, I learned when you are treating someone who's dehydrated, don't give them gatorade at full strength; cut it %50 with water.This is because if your already dehydrated, you can't handle the short term effect that it will have on your cells, of pulling water out of them; they all ready have less than optimal amounts.Jim>> > > > > I'm afraid I don't know enough, however, to say why seawater would be > > detrimental (which I think is true) and not seasalt.> > > > > > > > I see an obvious difference between being at sea with no fresh water> and drinking sea water, and taking salt in water in your home where you have all the fresh water that you can stand to drink. My understanding of salt (sodium) is that one of the basic functions in the body is > changing the way the body holds onto water. > > I know I have to give my horses lots of salt. The song birds are all over the salt blocks. All animals need salt.> > I've been afraid of salt at one time, but taking it now, as gray salt, > I do not see any swelling or weight gain or higher blood pressure. It > has helped when I have raised from 25 mgs to 37.5 mgs of Ioderal. I was feeling nauseous and the last thing I thought I wanted was salt water, but did it ever help! > > Sue>