RE: Newbie question about detox...

[Guest guest]

If you feel like a zombie with all the rest... you need to address

adrenal fatigue. Try Dr. 's book- Adrenal fatigue, and/or go

to nthadrenals.org.

I am using low dose iodine but realized that first my adrenals are

the problem, then will work on the thyroid. I am on synthroid and

in the search to find a doctor to make changes to NTH. But a lot of

my symptoms seem to be more adrenal based, and then thyroid can work

better along with the iodine.

On 2/22/2011 6:29 AM, destinysbeckoning wrote:

Zombie here with a question...I recently bought a bottle

of Iodoral (12.5mg) and a bottle of sodium selenite. I've

taken them together, twice so far, but skipped days in

between because I think it made me feel even worse. I took

them in the morning with food, and by the time 4:00pm came

around I was feeling horrible. The fatigue was worse; the

weak feeling was worse; IBS-D was worse; energy level

dropped big time. Oh, and sore, tearing eyes even the day

after. Not sure if that's because of the iodoral or not. I

think I might be forgetting at least one more thing but

that's the main gist of it.

So...I'm afraid to take it anymore as I feel bad enough as

is. If anyone can help with advice, info, similar personal

experiences, etc...please do. I'm so fed up with feeling

like this. And does anyone know why I might be feeling

this odd pressure or feeling on the top of my head/scalp?

This is everyday, not just the days I took the Iodoral and

selenite. I'm so tired of feeling like the walking dead,

and barely able to think anymore let alone research

anything. Husband is the opposite of understanding, and

it's so hard to deal with the hate when I have no energy

to. You know the feeling, when you just want to stand on a

rooftop and yell....Someone help me!

~dani~

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I’m starting to really think this is

my problem as well. The higher the dosage of iodine, the more stressful (very

edgy) and tired I am feeling. My temperatures are also going down rather than

up and TSH also

increased. I’m also not sleeping very well at night now even though I

take Lugol’s in the morning. I just wake up so often and feel in a half

sleep all night.

Lori

Re: Newbie

question about detox...

If you feel like a zombie with all the rest... you

need to address adrenal fatigue. Try Dr. 's book- Adrenal

fatigue, and/or go to nthadrenals.org.

I am using low dose iodine but realized that first my adrenals are the problem,

then will work on the thyroid. I am on synthroid and in the search to

find a doctor to make changes to NTH. But a lot of my symptoms seem to be

more adrenal based, and then thyroid can work better along with the iodine.

On 2/22/2011 6:29 AM, destinysbeckoning wrote:

Zombie here with a

question...I recently bought a bottle of Iodoral (12.5mg) and a bottle of

sodium selenite. I've taken them together, twice so far, but skipped days in

between because I think it made me feel even worse. I took them in the morning

with food, and by the time 4:00pm came around I was feeling horrible. The

fatigue was worse; the weak feeling was worse; IBS-D was worse; energy level

dropped big time. Oh, and sore, tearing eyes even the day after. Not sure if

that's because of the iodoral or not. I think I might be forgetting at least

one more thing but that's the main gist of it.

So...I'm afraid to take it anymore as I feel bad enough as is. If anyone can

help with advice, info, similar personal experiences, etc...please do. I'm so

fed up with feeling like this. And does anyone know why I might be feeling this

odd pressure or feeling on the top of my head/scalp? This is everyday, not just

the days I took the Iodoral and selenite. I'm so tired of feeling like the

walking dead, and barely able to think anymore let alone research anything.

Husband is the opposite of understanding, and it's so hard to deal with the

hate when I have no energy to. You know the feeling, when you just want to

stand on a rooftop and yell....Someone help me!

~dani~

[Guest guest]

Dani -

 

You seem to be missing some components.

 

Iodoral

Selenium - not selenite (selenite contains NO significant selenium)

Magnesium

Vit-C

Unrefined Sea Salt (1/2 tsp min - more if you salt load to detox)

 

The symptoms you describe are likely bromide detox.  But things are complicated by the fact you do not appear to be taking ANY of the companion nutrients.

 

Jaxi

 

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 8:29 AM, destinysbeckoning <destinysbeckoning@...> wrote:

Zombie here with a question...I recently bought a bottle of Iodoral (12.5mg) and a bottle of sodium selenite.  I've taken them together, twice so far, but skipped days in between because I think it made me feel even worse.  I took them in the morning with food, and by the time 4:00pm came around I was feeling horrible.  The fatigue was worse; the weak feeling was worse; IBS-D was worse; energy level dropped big time.  Oh, and sore, tearing eyes even the day after.  Not sure if that's because of the iodoral or not.  I think I might be forgetting at least one more thing but that's the main gist of it.

So...I'm afraid to take it anymore as I feel bad enough as is. If anyone can help with advice, info, similar personal experiences, etc...please do.  I'm so fed up with feeling like this.  And does anyone know why I might be feeling this odd pressure or feeling on the top of my head/scalp?  This is everyday, not just the days I took the Iodoral and selenite.  I'm so tired of feeling like the walking dead, and barely able to think anymore let alone research anything.  Husband is the opposite of understanding, and it's so hard to deal with the hate when I have no energy to.  You know the feeling, when you just want to stand on a rooftop and yell....Someone help me!

~dani~------------------------------------All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group  IodineOT/

Commonly asked questions:   http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

I missed the sodium part when I looked it up so it does seem to have more selenium in it that I thought.  But it is not the form of selenium I generally see recommended.  I have a good summary of the different types bookmarked at home.  I'll try to remember to look it up and send it tonight.

 

But you do seem to be missing the other companion nutrients.  The sea salt being quite key in that mix.

 

Jaxi

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:07 PM, jaxi <jaxi.schulz@...> wrote:

Dani -

 

You seem to be missing some components.

 

Iodoral

Selenium - not selenite (selenite contains NO significant selenium)

Magnesium

Vit-C

Unrefined Sea Salt (1/2 tsp min - more if you salt load to detox)

 

The symptoms you describe are likely bromide detox.  But things are complicated by the fact you do not appear to be taking ANY of the companion nutrients.

 

Jaxi

 

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 8:29 AM, destinysbeckoning <destinysbeckoning@...> wrote:

Zombie here with a question...I recently bought a bottle of Iodoral (12.5mg) and a bottle of sodium selenite.  I've taken them together, twice so far, but skipped days in between because I think it made me feel even worse.  I took them in the morning with food, and by the time 4:00pm came around I was feeling horrible.  The fatigue was worse; the weak feeling was worse; IBS-D was worse; energy level dropped big time.  Oh, and sore, tearing eyes even the day after.  Not sure if that's because of the iodoral or not.  I think I might be forgetting at least one more thing but that's the main gist of it.

So...I'm afraid to take it anymore as I feel bad enough as is. If anyone can help with advice, info, similar personal experiences, etc...please do.  I'm so fed up with feeling like this.  And does anyone know why I might be feeling this odd pressure or feeling on the top of my head/scalp?  This is everyday, not just the days I took the Iodoral and selenite.  I'm so tired of feeling like the walking dead, and barely able to think anymore let alone research anything.  Husband is the opposite of understanding, and it's so hard to deal with the hate when I have no energy to.  You know the feeling, when you just want to stand on a rooftop and yell....Someone help me!

~dani~------------------------------------All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group  IodineOT/

Commonly asked questions:   http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

Detoxing is very stressful on adrenals. You seem to be having adrenal fatigue symptoms to me:

light sleeping

more fatigue

*falling temps*

etc....

[Guest guest]

Thanks, ...I've written down the name of that book, and will also check out that site. I do remember years ago, when researching my symptoms at the time, coming across adrenal fatigue. So I'm definitely going to check this out. And you've gotten me to think about starting really low with the iodoral....I think I'll try just taking half of the 12.5 mg cap and see how that goes for awhile, while I check out about the adrenal fatigue. So I've got a plan starting to take form....thank you

~dani~

Posted by: " Teel" caalde@... caalde@...

Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:56 am (PST)

If you feel like a zombie with all the rest... you need to address adrenal fatigue. Try Dr. 's book- Adrenal fatigue, and/or go to nthadrenals. org.I am using low dose iodine but realized that first my adrenals are the problem, then will work on the thyroid. I am on synthroid and in the search to find a doctor to make changes to NTH. But a lot of my symptoms seem to be more adrenal based, and then thyroid can work better along with the iodine.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Jaxi...here's what I've got so far...

Iodoral 12.5 mg

Sodium Selenite (250mcg Selenium)

Vit.C

Real Salt (in and on my food)

I haven't been able to get the magnesium because I couldn't afford to yet, but will try to squeeze even more out of the food money this week, if I can. I also need and will try to get a good multi vitamin with iron, and maybe a good B complex when I can. I'm very rundown and at least part of that is because of my very limited diet and apparent malabsorption problem. It's like the chicken and egg thing...which came first.

These replies are really helping me to think straighter and form a plan....thank you.

~dani~

Posted by: "jaxi" jaxi.schulz@... scuba_diva22

Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:08 am (PST)

Dani -You seem to be missing some components.IodoralSelenium - not selenite (selenite contains NO significant selenium)MagnesiumVit-CUnrefined Sea Salt (1/2 tsp min - more if you salt load to detox)The symptoms you describe are likely bromide detox. But things arecomplicated by the fact you do not appear to be taking ANY of the companionnutrients.Jaxi

[Guest guest]

I hope this form of selenium is okay? It does say it's 250mcg of selenium, but the name on the front of the bottle says sodium selenite. It's by Twin Labs, and the only selenium I could find at the health food store here. I hope it's what I need?

The Real Salt I'm using in and on my food and even sprinkling a little dash in my herbal teas. I'm not sure if that's enough.

~dani~

Posted by: "jaxi" jaxi.schulz@... scuba_diva22

Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:14 am (PST)

I missed the sodium part when I looked it up so it does seem to have moreselenium in it that I thought. But it is not the form of selenium Igenerally see recommended. I have a good summary of the different typesbookmarked at home. I'll try to remember to look it up and send it tonight.But you do seem to be missing the other companion nutrients. The sea saltbeing quite key in that mix.Jaxi

[Guest guest]

dani,

For your malabsorption, do you have any gluten-intolerance or other

dietary issues? My daughter had a hidden gluten intolerance and I

think it really drove her adrenal & thyroid issues...

Just wondering,

On 2/23/2011 4:37 AM, dani wrote:

Thanks, Jaxi...here's what I've got so far...

Iodoral 12.5 mg

Sodium Selenite (250mcg Selenium)

Vit.C

Real Salt (in and on my food)

I haven't been able to get the magnesium

because I couldn't afford to yet, but will try

to squeeze even more out of the food money this

week, if I can. I also need and will try to

get a good multi vitamin with iron, and maybe a

good B complex when I can. I'm very rundown and

at least part of that is because of my very

limited diet and apparent malabsorption

problem. It's like the chicken and egg

thing...which came first.

These replies are really helping me to think

straighter and form a plan....thank you.

~dani~

Posted by: "jaxi" jaxi.schulz@...

scuba_diva22

Tue Feb 22, 2011

10:08 am (PST)

Dani -

You seem to be missing some components.

Iodoral

Selenium - not selenite (selenite contains NO

significant selenium)

Magnesium

Vit-C

Unrefined Sea Salt (1/2 tsp min - more if you

salt load to detox)

The symptoms you describe are likely bromide

detox. But things are

complicated by the fact you do not appear to be

taking ANY of the companion

nutrients.

Jaxi

[Guest guest]

Steph, that's very good to know. I doubt our little health food store carries it...can it be ordered online like at amazon.com? I read a post fairly recently that listed different types of magnesium and one was noted for being gentle to the digestived system. Since I have IBS-D and so many food issues, I was going to try to get that type to try...which I think was magnesium glycinate?

~dani~

Posted by: "ladybugsandbees" ladybugsandbees@... stephanie_a_buist

Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:05 am (PST)

You have to try different forms to see what works for you. I use the Methylselenocystein e. I have a gene defect that affects methylation (the ability to break down compounds to the methylated form).Steph

[Guest guest]

I have gut issues and use Magnesium Oil since it is transdermally applied and works better for me. The methyl form of selenium is common. Check your healthfood store. Otherwise I use the form found on www.vrp.com

Re: Newbie question about detox...

Steph, that's very good to know. I doubt our little health food store carries it...can it be ordered online like at amazon.com? I read a post fairly recently that listed different types of magnesium and one was noted for being gentle to the digestived system. Since I have IBS-D and so many food issues, I was going to try to get that type to try...which I think was magnesium glycinate?

~dani~

Posted by: "ladybugsandbees" ladybugsandbees@... stephanie_a_buist

Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:05 am (PST)

You have to try different forms to see what works for you. I use the Methylselenocystein e. I have a gene defect that affects methylation (the ability to break down compounds to the methylated form).Steph

[Guest guest]

Yes, Dani, magnesium glycinate is reputed to be less prone to causing

diarrhea. However, I have IBS issues (that are controlled) that accompany

fibromyalgia, and even the mag glycinate causes me problems. So I've

moved to using magnesium oil, with only occasional oral supplements.

I like the mag oil from Swanson's, much cheaper and from same source as the

more expensive type.

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[Guest guest]

Thank you all for magnesium info. Since I sure don't want my digestive problems

to get any worse than it already is, I am very thankful for all of the advice.

I would've replied sooner, but haven't been online much due to phone line being

out off and on due to weather. I need to catch up.

~dani~

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[Guest guest]

I am having symptoms like this too, especially the burning eyes, pain in the

front/top of my head, edgy and not sleeping well. In addition to the salt

loading right after the dose, I have been taking adrenal cortex extract for the

adrenals and increasing that to about 3 capsules a day seems to be helping some.

I might even need more! You can get it really cheap at luckyvitamin.com, for

like half the price!

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> Detoxing is very stressful on adrenals. You seem to be having adrenal fatigue

symptoms to me:

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> light sleeping

> more fatigue

> *falling temps*

> etc....

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[Guest guest]

Do you have silver fillings? Thyroid and adrenal problems are very in line with

mercury toxicity and your detox reaction screams toxicity to me. I am in the

process of planning my amalgam replacement with a Huggins approved dentist now.

Nothing short of an eye-opener, in fact, the pre-surgery testing is how I found

out about my own thyroid problem for the first time! I never would have guessed

myself to be hypothyroid, especially because I am very thin.

Also, if you have silver/amalgams, consider reading Cutler's Amalgam

Illness. It contains a TON of information on every single page. It has been

said that it's not the kind of book you read cover to cover, it's very

technical, but I couldn't put that sucker down!! I did read it cover to cover

and it is one of THE most worn books in my huge medical library! I refer to it

ALL the time.

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> Detoxing is very stressful on adrenals. You seem to be having adrenal fatigue

symptoms to me:

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> light sleeping

> more fatigue

> *falling temps*

> etc....

>