Re: Iodine - for me and the dog!

[Guest guest]

Ladies, I'm sorry. I fear i am the one who was chasing rabbits. And you know

what grace slick said about that!Gonna fall,.... I posted a dr.'s comments on

Hashi's and antibodies, and I see now the original post was asking for

interpreting of tests.My BAD!! I should have posted it under a new topic, saw

something about hashi's, and so stuck it in where I shouldn't have. Mea Culpa! I

will try to pay more attention in the future.Now, can we all just get along?;-)

Jim

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> > > > The companion nutrients are always needed not just when you are

> > > experiencing

> > > > problems. The only " optional " component is the EXTRA salt

> > > loading. But Vit

> > > > C, Selenium, Magnesium, and 1/2 - 1 tsp sea salt (am I missing

anything?)

> > > > are daily companion nutrients always when on iodine, regardless of

iodine

> > > > dose.

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> > > > Jaxi

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I'm sorry. I don't know what to say except that this sinus infection has made

me rather short-tempered and impatient. I've honestly never experienced such

pain in my life and it's just kind of set me on edge.

Pamela

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> > > > > The companion nutrients are always needed not just when you are

> > > > experiencing

> > > > > problems. The only " optional " component is the EXTRA salt

> > > > loading. But Vit

> > > > > C, Selenium, Magnesium, and 1/2 - 1 tsp sea salt (am I missing

> > anything?)

> > > > > are daily companion nutrients always when on iodine, regardless of

> > iodine

> > > > > dose.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jaxi

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> > > >------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

> > > >group IodineOT/

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> > > >

> > > >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

Links

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> > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> > > --A.J. Muste

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> >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

> >group IodineOT/

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> >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

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Are you salt loading? This is sometimes necessary 2-3x a day in the beginning.

BarbF

In a message dated 3/7/2011 3:36:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, prov31mom23@... writes:

Feb, 2010. Started taking Lugol's along with all companion supplements. Experienced panic attacks and air hunger, both of which awakened me in the middle of the night. Stopped taking Lugol's and these disappeared.Feb, 2011. Started taking Lugol's almost the exact same time I was diagnosed with a sinus infection (but had had milder symptoms that I attributed to a cold for a week or so prior to both the diagnosis and the taking of Lugol's). Iodine arrived 2/24 - my infection was diagnosed 2/23) Have NOT had any of the problems I previously mentioned so far. I take 2,000-4,000 mg vitamin C every day (amount depends on whether I remember to take it at night).The only supplement I am not taking is selenium - simply because I am out of it.But the consensus would be that the issues I had last year were most likely signs of detox? If I'd persisted through them, they would have eventually gone away? Why did I experience them on a lower dose of Lugol's than I had taken prior of Iodoral? I don't think I was even taking 25 mg of Lugol's - a few months prior I had taken up to 50 mg of Iodoral with no problem. I also did not experience the decrease in the crud in my throat with Iodoral, as I did with Lugol's. I'm really baffled as to why my experience with the two is so different since they are essentially the same thing in different forms.Pamela> > > >> > > > RE: So air hunger and panic attacks are detox symptoms?> > > >> > > > I do think that this could be the case with viral/bacterial/fungal type> > > of situations but I am not a physician so it is only my 2 cents. Iodine> > > does increase salivary flow and if there are organisms living in the sinus> > > cavity, misc. glands, ducts, jawline and lungs then all of this gets> > > affected as does breathing and when there is not enough oxygen it is> > > certainly a cause for the body to send out an alert.> > > >> > > > So with iodine ( & salt) stirring up and eliminating bromides, killing off> > > unwanted organisms, etc... a person can experience some pretty strange> > > things during detox.> > > >> > > > However, you mentioned in an early post about waking up with these> > > symptoms during the night which prompted me to wonder about your adrenal> > > function. Do you know what your adrenal status is?> > > >> > > > Are you taking ALL of the supporting nutrients as outlined in the New> > > Member Document located in the Files?> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------------------------------> > >> > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group> > > IodineOT/> > >> > >> > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

It didn't seem rude to me....it seemed an interesting comment on how one thought provoking question opens up a whole new area of inquiry. That's the beauty of this board. There is so much knowledge and so many people questioning, sometimes its hard to stay on task (as the teachers say....). We always eventually get the right answers.

BarbF

In a message dated 3/8/2011 12:13:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, kathleenblake@... writes:

Well I must say when I read what you said about loving how people here just run off on rabbit trails....it struck me as a bit rude; we are all doing the best we can , most of us are not well and are here to help others . I think it best we respect and be kind to one another. Kathleen

Re: Iodine - for me and the dog!

I'm not a new member here, despite everybody thinking I am. And I did not scold anybody for not being perfectly available. What I commented on was how somebody answered a question that wasn't asked - or made a comment that in no way addressed the question that was asked. That is a quite different thing than criticizing the list for a failure to respond.Pamela> > >> > > The companion nutrients are always needed not just when you are > > experiencing> > > problems. The only "optional" component is the EXTRA salt > > loading. But Vit> > > C, Selenium, Magnesium, and 1/2 - 1 tsp sea salt (am I missing anything?)> > > are daily companion nutrients always when on iodine, regardless of iodine> > > dose.> > >> > > Jaxi> >> >> >> >------------------------------------> >> >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT > >group IodineOT/> >> >> >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

Necessary for what, Barb? I'm not currently experiencing anything negative from

taking Lugol's. I love drinking salt water - it's really strange to my family

how I prefer it to plain water - but I'm not really taking more than about 3/4

tsp per day in addition to whatever I put in my food.

Pamela

> > > > >

> > > > > RE: So air hunger and panic attacks are detox symptoms?

> > > > >

> > > > > I do think that this could be the case with viral/bacterial/fungal

> type

> > > > of situations but I am not a physician so it is only my 2 cents.

> Iodine

> > > > does increase salivary flow and if there are organisms living in the

> sinus

> > > > cavity, misc. glands, ducts, jawline and lungs then all of this gets

> > > > affected as does breathing and when there is not enough oxygen it is

> > > > certainly a cause for the body to send out an alert.

> > > > >

> > > > > So with iodine ( & salt) stirring up and eliminating bromides,

> killing off

> > > > unwanted organisms, etc... a person can experience some pretty

> strange

> > > > things during detox.

> > > > >

> > > > > However, you mentioned in an early post about waking up with these

> > > > symptoms during the night which prompted me to wonder about your

> adrenal

> > > > function. Do you know what your adrenal status is?

> > > > >

> > > > > Are you taking ALL of the supporting nutrients as outlined in the

> New

> > > > Member Document located in the Files?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group

> > > > IodineOT/

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

> Links

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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> All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group

> IodineOT/

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> Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Links

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Thank you, Pamela.

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At 12:52 AM 3/8/2011, you wrote:

>I'm sorry. I don't know what to say except that this sinus infection has

>made me rather short-tempered and impatient. I've honestly never

>experienced such pain in my life and it's just kind of set me on edge.

>

>Pamela

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The companion nutrients are always needed not just when you are

> > > > > experiencing

> > > > > > problems. The only " optional " component is the EXTRA salt

> > > > > loading. But Vit

> > > > > > C, Selenium, Magnesium, and 1/2 - 1 tsp sea salt (am I missing

> > > anything?)

> > > > > > are daily companion nutrients always when on iodine, regardless of

> > > iodine

> > > > > > dose.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jaxi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

> > > > >group IodineOT/

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

> Groups Links

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> > > > --A.J. Muste

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >------------------------------------

> > >

> > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

> > >group IodineOT/

> > >

> > >

> > >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

Sorry...I thought you were having detox issues....must have been someone else or maybe I made it up!!

BarbF

In a message dated 3/8/2011 10:28:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, prov31mom23@... writes:

Necessary for what, Barb? I'm not currently experiencing anything negative from taking Lugol's. I love drinking salt water - it's really strange to my family how I prefer it to plain water - but I'm not really taking more than about 3/4 tsp per day in addition to whatever I put in my food.Pamela> > > > >> > > > > RE: So air hunger and panic attacks are detox symptoms?> > > > >> > > > > I do think that this could be the case with viral/bacterial/fungal > type> > > > of situations but I am not a physician so it is only my 2 cents. > Iodine> > > > does increase salivary flow and if there are organisms living in the > sinus> > > > cavity, misc. glands, ducts, jawline and lungs then all of this gets> > > > affected as does breathing and when there is not enough oxygen it is> > > > certainly a cause for the body to send out an alert.> > > > >> > > > > So with iodine ( & salt) stirring up and eliminating bromides, > killing off> > > > unwanted organisms, etc... a person can experience some pretty > strange> > > > things during detox.> > > > >> > > > > However, you mentioned in an early post about waking up with these> > > > symptoms during the night which prompted me to wonder about your > adrenal> > > > function. Do you know what your adrenal status is?> > > > >> > > > > Are you taking ALL of the supporting nutrients as outlined in the > New> > > > Member Document located in the Files?> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------------------------------> > > >> > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group> > > > IodineOT/> > > >> > > >> > > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e > Links> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------> > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > IodineOT/> > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Links>------------------------------------All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

,Somewhere in this thread was about COPD, Thought this on broccoli especially broccoli sprouts like DIM or calcium-d-glucarate may help your family member with COPD. Lost a brother in law to COPD and flu recently so hope this helps others. Pam

Broccoli compound shown to help prevent lung damage in COPD patients

May 2, 2011 by Personal Liberty News Desk 

In addition to being low in calories and high in a variety of nutrients, broccoli may have the added benefit of helping patients with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) fight off lung infections, according to researchers at s Hopkins University.

The sulforaphane found in the vegetable stimulates production of a molecule known as Nrf2, which helps produce free radical-neutralizing antioxidants in the body.

“This research may help explain the long-established link between diet and lung disease, and raises the potential for new approaches to treatment of this often-devastating disease,” said study co-author Wise.

The authors theorized that Nrf2 may help increase the amount of macrophages in the body, which are molecules that remove bacteria. They tested their hypothesis using sulforaphanes, because the compound has previously been shown to help produce Nfr2.

The sulforaphane treatment helped kill two types of bacteria that affect people with COPD and increased the macrophage’s ability to uptake bacteria by 300 percent.

In a study of mice, the compound was shown to reduce lung inflammation; while in humans, sulforaphane supplements raised blood levels of antioxidants.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:05 PM, <Bbircie@...> wrote:

 

Sorry...I thought you were having detox issues....must have been someone else or maybe I made it up!!

BarbF

 

In a message dated 3/8/2011 10:28:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, prov31mom23@... writes:

Necessary for what, Barb?  I'm not currently experiencing anything negative from taking Lugol's.  I love drinking salt water - it's really strange to my family how I prefer it to plain water - but I'm not really taking more than about 3/4 tsp per day in addition to whatever I put in my food.Pamela> > > > >> > > > > RE:   So air hunger and panic attacks are detox symptoms?> > > >  >> > > > > I do think that this could be the case with  viral/bacterial/fungal > type> > > > of situations but I am not a  physician so it is only my 2 cents.   > Iodine> > > > does  increase salivary flow and if there are organisms living in the > sinus> >  > > cavity, misc. glands, ducts, jawline and lungs then all of this  gets> > > > affected as does breathing and when there is not enough  oxygen it is> > > > certainly a cause for the body to send out an  alert.> > > > >> > > > > So with iodine ( &   salt) stirring up and eliminating bromides, > killing off> > > >  unwanted organisms, etc...  a person can experience some pretty  > strange> > > > things during detox.> > > > >> >  > > > However, you mentioned in an early post about waking up with  these> > > > symptoms during the night which prompted me to wonder  about your > adrenal> > > > function.  Do you know what your  adrenal status is?> > > > >> > > > > Are you  taking ALL of the supporting nutrients as outlined in the > New> > >  > Member Document located in the Files?> > > >> > >  >> > > >> > > >   ------------------------------------> > > >> > > > All  off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group> > > >  IodineOT/> > > >> > >  >> > > > Commonly asked questions:    http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e > Links> > > >> > >  >> > > >> > > >> >  >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------> > All  off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group   > IodineOT/> > > Commonly asked  questions:   http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e   Links>------------------------------------All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group  IodineOT/Commonly asked questions:   http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

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Thank you, Pamela, that was very thoughtful of you. I have forwarded the

information to her.

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At 08:12 PM 5/3/2011, you wrote:

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>

>

>

>Somewhere in this thread was about COPD, Thought this on broccoli

>especially broccoli sprouts like DIM or calcium-d-glucarate may help your

>family member with COPD. Lost a brother in law to COPD and flu recently so

>hope this helps others. Pam

>

>

>

>

>

>Broccoli compound shown to help prevent lung damage in COPD patients

>

>

>

>May 2, 2011 by

><http://www.personalliberty.com/author/personalliberty/>Personal Liberty

>News Desk

>

>Image removed by sender. Broccoli compound shown to help preven

>In addition to being low in calories and high in a variety of nutrients,

>broccoli may have the added benefit of helping patients with chronic

>obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) fight off lung infections, according

>to researchers at s Hopkins University.

>

>The sulforaphane found in the vegetable stimulates production of a

>molecule known as Nrf2, which helps produce free radical-neutralizing

>antioxidants in the body.

>

> " This research may help explain the long-established link between diet and

>lung disease, and raises the potential for new approaches to treatment of

>this often-devastating disease, " said study co-author Wise.

>

>The authors theorized that Nrf2 may help increase the amount of

>macrophages in the body, which are molecules that remove bacteria. They

>tested their hypothesis using sulforaphanes, because the compound has

>previously been shown to help produce Nfr2.

>

>The sulforaphane treatment helped kill two types of bacteria that affect

>people with COPD and increased the macrophage's ability to uptake bacteria

>by 300 percent.

>

>In a study of mice, the compound was shown to reduce lung inflammation;

>while in humans, sulforaphane supplements raised blood levels of antioxidants.

>

>On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:05 PM, <<mailto:Bbircie@...>Bbircie@...>

>wrote:

>

>

>Sorry...I thought you were having detox issues....must have been someone

>else or maybe I made it up!!

>BarbF

>

>In a message dated 3/8/2011 10:28:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

><mailto:prov31mom23@...>prov31mom23@... writes:

>Necessary for what, Barb? I'm not currently experiencing anything

>negative from taking Lugol's. I love drinking salt water - it's really

>strange to my family how I prefer it to plain water - but I'm not really

>taking more than about 3/4 tsp per day in addition to whatever I put in my

>food.

>

>Pamela

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RE: So air hunger and panic attacks are detox symptoms?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I do think that this could be the case

> with viral/bacterial/fungal

> > type

> > > > > of situations but I am not a physician so it is only my 2 cents.

> > Iodine

> > > > > does increase salivary flow and if there are organisms living in

> the

> > sinus

> > > > > cavity, misc. glands, ducts, jawline and lungs then all of

> this gets

> > > > > affected as does breathing and when there is not enough oxygen it is

> > > > > certainly a cause for the body to send out an alert.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So with iodine ( & salt) stirring up and eliminating bromides,

> > killing off

> > > > > unwanted organisms, etc... a person can experience some pretty

> > strange

> > > > > things during detox.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > However, you mentioned in an early post about waking up

> with these

> > > > > symptoms during the night which prompted me to wonder about your

> > adrenal

> > > > > function. Do you know what your adrenal status is?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Are you taking ALL of the supporting nutrients as outlined in the

> > New

> > > > > Member Document located in the Files?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group

> > > > >

>

<IodineOT/>http://health./g\

roup/IodineOT/

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