Re: New here, bloodwork mess

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New here, bloodwork mess

Hi all,I recently had some blood work done to prepare for a dental revision (Huggins doctor replacing fillings) and a number of things came up that are concerning. I am just wondering, if anyone believes that iodine can help. -borderline thyroid numbers (she said sluggish thyroid)Yes the full iodine protocol (outlined in the new member document) can help to increase thyroid function.

-slightly enlarged thyroidYes it can reduce goiters - check out the pictures in the files of the group.

-low sodium

No Iodine will not increase sodium levels. Only supplementing with unrefined salt such as celtic will raise this level.-low cholesteralNo you will need to increase your intake of good fats

-blood sugar a tad too highA diet free of refined carbs, lots of whole foods and yes iodine will have an effect on blood sugar levels.

-protein digestion isn't great and protein is too highIodine is found in the lining of the stomach so it can be beneficial to digestion. I would suggest getting on a good digestive enzyme combo to help this.

-phosphorus lowBeef, tuna, chicken and lobster are all great sources of phosphorus. You can also supplement.

-red blood count is a little low and MCV is elevated, large red blood cells, plus lower plateletsIngesting wheatgrass or organ meats can increase RBC levels. What is your diet like?

Buist, ND

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I've been doing some research and have a few ideas, plus what the doctor suggested, but I wonder if this group has different views on the iodine connection, if there is one (I know the thyroid is a huge one).Thanks in advance!!

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Thank you ,

I wanted to read the documents that were sent to me via the welcome e-mails, but

I could only open the .txt files. I have a Mac and can't open .doc files. I

will see, if there is anything else in the files that I can view.

I imagine, if we didn't do the things we are doing now, my blood work would look

a lot worse! We already have two boys with health issues related to mercury, so

we have had a very clean organic diet free of refined sugars for two years. We

eat only organic and natural meats, organic vegetables and fruits with the

exception of a few thick-skinned things like bananas and avocados. I've been

putting Real Salt into our reverse osmosis water for a few weeks now. I did

start the iodine and am working up slowly, because it really wreaked havoc on my

eyes and nose at first. Then I learned about taking the salt in a glass of

water which helped. I noticed after one day of doing that, I no longer reacted

negatively to the iodine dose I was on, so I upped it again today with no ill

effects, so far...at 6 drops (Lugol's 2%) now.

We eat little to no carbs, all whole foods (although I might slack a bit more on

myself than my kids) for instance I do eat ezekeil bread with coconut oil on top

for breakfast. And I like chinese food (no MSG and all steamed) occasionally

with rice or an Amy's burrito.

I've already increased my chromium supplement, added enzymes and added carrot

smoothies for the added beta carotene. I ordered phosphorus drops a few days

ago so I can start supplementing, I don't need any more tooth decay...grrr.

Oh and we do wheat grass. I was previously leaving it for the kids, because

it's so expensive, but I just started using an ounce a day for myself.

A typical (meals) day for me is ezekeil toast with virgin coconut oil on top

(sometimes I add all natural peanut butter and banana slices) for breakfast or

oatmeal or organic eggs and bacon, lunch might be a sandwich or an Amy's dairy

free burrito (no dairy for us) a salad, or leftovers from the night before, and

dinner is almost always a meat and veggie, we love salads! There is lots of

avocado in our diets, only healthy oils like coconut, macadamia nut and avocado.

I like to make stews like chicken and lentils or beef stew (all low oxalate

veggies like turnips and cabbage).

I am thinking of cutting gluten out completely....but haven't done it yet. It

has never bothered me, I am just trying to think of an even cleaner diet for

myself. The kids are both GFCF and low oxalate, so it wouldn't be far off from

the diet we already have with them. Just means more money. Blech.

It's so hard when I am trying to focus on two little boys with issues that need

a lot of time and attention. I know I need to find more time for me, which is

why I am doing this dental revision. It's precisely what has made me find these

little blips on the radar. I don't feel very unhealthy, just tired, so I am

thinking that a lot of this is fairly new and if I don't take care of it now, I

will be headed down a slippery slope! Thanks again for your time! Groups like

this and people like you are a blessing.

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> New here, bloodwork mess

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> Hi all,

> I recently had some blood work done to prepare for a dental revision

(Huggins doctor replacing fillings) and a number of things came up that are

concerning. I am just wondering, if anyone believes that iodine can help.

>

> -borderline thyroid numbers (she said sluggish thyroid)

> Yes the full iodine protocol (outlined in the new member document) can help

to increase thyroid function.

>

> -slightly enlarged thyroid

> Yes it can reduce goiters - check out the pictures in the files of the

group.

>

> -low sodium

>

> No Iodine will not increase sodium levels. Only supplementing with

unrefined salt such as celtic will raise this level.

> -low cholesteral

> No you will need to increase your intake of good fats

>

> -blood sugar a tad too high

> A diet free of refined carbs, lots of whole foods and yes iodine will have

an effect on blood sugar levels.

>

> -protein digestion isn't great and protein is too high

> Iodine is found in the lining of the stomach so it can be beneficial to

digestion. I would suggest getting on a good digestive enzyme combo to help

this.

>

> -phosphorus low

> Beef, tuna, chicken and lobster are all great sources of phosphorus. You

can also supplement.

>

> -red blood count is a little low and MCV is elevated, large red blood cells,

plus lower platelets

>

> Ingesting wheatgrass or organ meats can increase RBC levels. What is your

diet like?

>

>

>

> Buist, ND

>

> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I've been doing some research

and have a few ideas, plus what the doctor suggested, but I wonder if this group

has different views on the iodine connection, if there is one (I know the

thyroid is a huge one).

>

> Thanks in advance!!

>

>

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Here is the document from the files:

Iodine information to get you started – Commonly Asked Questions.

1. Forms of Iodine 1

2. How much Iodine do I need to take? 2

3. Supporting Nutrients for taking Iodine. 2

4. When should I take my supplements? Do I need to space them apart? 3

5. How long should I take Iodine? 3

6. Where can I buy Iodoral? 3

7. What is the Salt Loading Protocol? 3

8. What are the sources of Bromide? 3

9. I did the skin patch test and it disappeared quickly so I must be very deficient. 4

10. My ferritin dropped while on Iodine. 4

11. I am gaining weight since starting Iodine. 4

12. Is there an issue with taking Iodine and having mercury amalgam fillings? 4

13. I have Hashimotos. Can I take Iodine? 4

THE UNDERLYING CAUSE OF AUTOIMMUNE THYROID ILLNESSES: IODINE DEFICIENCY AND ANTIOXIDANT DEFICIENCY_ 4

A Proposed Mechanism for the Development of Autoimmune Thyroid Disorders 5

What Happens If TPO Is Damaged? Autoimmune Thyroid Illness 5

How to Treat Autoimmune Thyroid Disorders 6

14. My TSH went up on Iodine. 6

15. I have adrenal fatigue. Can I take Iodine? 6

16. I have breast cancer and would like to learn more about using Iodine. 6

17. Bromide Toxicity and Iodine Loading Test. 6

18. Ordering an Iodine Loading Test with Bromide Levels. 7

19. Recommended Reading. 9

20. INDEX_ 10

1. Forms of Iodine

a. Nascent (aka Magnascent, Detoxified or Atomidine) – Based on Edgar Cayce’s “energized” iodine. The iodine is reduced to a 1% concentration in 100% ethyl alcohol and electro-magnetically transmuted (while being suspended in a wet bath containing a mild acid solution) into the Atomic state. 1 drop = 150 mcg or .150 mg of Iodine. This form will not saturate body tissues and has not been proven to detox halides such as bromide, fluoride, chloride, and mercury, as other forms have.

b. Iosol – 1830 mcg / drop of Iodine only

c. Prolamine (Standard Process) – 3 mgs Iodine only

d. Lugol’s liquid – Iodine / Potassium Iodide – 2% and 5% solutions. 5% solution is 6.25 mgs / drop.

e. Iodoral – Lugol’s formula in pill form – Iodine / Potassium Iodide - 12.5 mgs & 50 mgs

2. How much Iodine do I need to take?

There are no amounts that can be given as a blanket recommendation. Everyone needs different amounts based on their body’s ability to utilize the nutrients as well as the level of toxic halide exposure they have each day. If you are dealing with a severe health condition then your dosages would need to be higher than those trying to maintain good health.

a. Maintenance – It was once believed that a good maintenance dose is 25 mgs per day. But with more information being gained about the exposures to halides bombarding our systems (bromides, fluorides, chlorine) as well as mercury, etc., maintenance of health may require higher doses of iodine. The iodine doctors are now beginning to believe that 50 mgs may be the minimum required dose.

b. Cancer – Cancer is a result of mutated cells. Iodine is absolutely critical for something called P53 gene which is known as the “keeper of the genetic code”. Without iodine and selenium it will not function to eliminate abnormal cells from the body such as cancer. Cancer patients have taken anywhere from 50 – 300 mgs / day successfully. Here is a good article on how P53 works with the mdm2 in cancer http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071015215101.htm For information on the P53 and Iodine see the Minerals for the Genetic Code book.

c. Children – These are the levels that I gave my children at the various ages. This is not meant to be a recommendation but a guideline for what was safe for my (Dr. Buist) children and others I have been in contact with.

i. Up to 3 years – 3 drops of Detoxified Iodine (www.iodinesource.com) per day or take 1 drop of 5% Lugol’s solution in water and then take ½ of the water and give it to the child. This results in 3.125 mgs / dose.

ii. 3yrs to 5 yrs – 6.25 mgs of Iodoral or 1 drop 5% Lugols Solution(6.25 mgs)

iii. 5 yrs to 9 yrs – 12.5 mgs of Iodoral or 2 drops 5% Lugols Solution (12.5 mgs)

iv. 9 yrs to 16 yrs – 25 mgs of Iodoral or 4 drops 5% Lugols Solution (25 mgs)

v. 16 yrs and up – will depend on health issues, weight, etc and cannot be given in generalities. Dosages range from 12.5 mgs to 300 mgs.

3. Supporting Nutrients for taking Iodine.

These are required to support the body while supplementing with iodine:

a. Vit C – 2,000 – 5,000 mgs / day – supports the symporters and assists as an antioxidant to detoxing.

b. Selenium – 200 – 400 mcg / day – needed for detoxification and thyroid hormone creation.

c. Unrefined salt (Celtic) – ½ tsp / day – supports adrenals, binds to bromide and assists in removal, supports symporters (sodium iodine symporters or NIS)

d. Magnesium – 400 mgs / day – critical for over 300 enzyme reactions in the body.

e. Optional – ATP CoFactors -1 tablet 2x / day – when individuals continue to feel fatigued or have autoimmune thyroid disease this product can assist in increasing ATP (energy) within the cells. Riboflavin and no-flush niacin.

4. When should I take my supplements? Do I need to space them apart?

a. Iodine should be taken with food. This seems to enhance absorption as well as protecting sensitive stomachs from a potential upset.

b. The supporting nutrients can be taken with iodine and with food. There is no spacing or timing required.

c. Iodine should be taken earlier in the day (before 2 pm) because for some it increases energy so much that they are unable to sleep.

5. How long should I take Iodine?

Dr. Abraham has states that it should take 6 months of 50 mgs to reach 90% saturation. However, as testing has become more widely available, it seems to be taking individuals years to detox halides and allow the iodine to enter the cells. Consequently, there is no set time that a person can expect to supplement and reach saturation levels.

6. Where can I buy Iodoral?

These are a few sources that have been found to be a good option.

a. www.breastcancerchoices.org - ships internationally / free shipping with larger orders

b. www.illnessisoptional.com - ships internationally

c. www.vrp.com - ships internationally

d. www.amazon.com

e. You can check Froogle ( google shopping tool) to find the current costs of various suppliers http://tinyurl.com/49zvmrl

7. What is the Salt Loading Protocol?

Perform the salt loading protocol when you are experiencing detoxification symptoms with iodine supplementation.

1/2 tsp celtic (or other unrefined) salt in 1/2 cup of warm waterFollow the above with a glass of 12 oz filtered water.** Repeat every 30-45 minutes as needed until urination begins. Why does this help?Salt - containing chloride - binds to the bromide in the blood stream and carries it out through the kidneys.

8. What are the sources of Bromide?

Over and over people come to the Iodine group claiming that they can’t possibly be toxic in bromide because they are gluten free, eat a clean diet, etc. Guess what? It isn’t diet related in most cases. Bromide is a flame retardant that is used in and on many items around you. These include carpeting, furniture, mattresses, clothing, computers, iPhones, and automobiles – just to name a few. Food sources can include items like baked goods that contain brominated flour or vegetable oil as well as soft drinks like Mountain Dew and other citrus based sodas. It can also be found in some Gatorade products. For many years it was used in the form of Methyl Bromide as a pesticide on strawberries.

9. I did the skin patch test and it disappeared quickly so I must be very deficient.

Not necessarily. The patch test isn’t very scientific and many factors go into why it disappears. Read the following article by Dr. Abraham for more information http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/updates/UNIOD-02/UNIOD_02.htm

10. My ferritin dropped while on Iodine.

This has been happening to people taking 50 mgs or more of Iodoral. It has been rectified by adding a B6 – Complex along with an iron supplement to help restore ferritin to normal levels. It is thought to occur due to an increase in metabolic rate that requires more iron. Sufficient ferritin levels (60-70) are needed to create and utilize thyroid hormones.

11. I am gaining weight since starting Iodine.

Unfortunately this can occur in those that are very toxic in halides like bromide. If your detoxification pathways are not able to eliminate the toxins being released by iodine then your body will buffer them with water and fat. It may be due, in part, to lowered calcium levels as well as magnesium, vit D, and B Vitamins. All work to maintain balance in the cells and eliminate toxins.

12. Is there an issue with taking Iodine and having mercury amalgam fillings?

While iodine does seem to pull out mercury from the cells / tissues of the body, there has been no indication that it is dangerous to take iodine while amalgams remain in the body. If there is concern, supplements like cilantro, chlorella and others can be used to help bind and carry the mercury out of the body. Consulting with a good holistic / biological dentist as well as an alternative medicine doctor can help to assess your toxicity level and assist you in safe removal of amalgams and chelation.

13. I have Hashimotos. Can I take Iodine?

Yes, Dr. Brownstein believes that low iodine is one the key causes in autoimmune thyroid disease. The following is an excerpt from Dr. Brownstein’s Iodine book.

THE UNDERLYING CAUSE OF AUTOIMMUNE THYROID ILLNESSES: IODINE DEFICIENCY AND ANTIOXIDANT DEFICIENCY

Chapter 7 described the apoptotic (i.e., anticancer) effects of the iodinated form of lactone (δ- Iodolactone). δ- Iodolactone is not only important for preventing cancer, its production is also necessary to help regulate the oxidation of iodine. Figure 3 illustrates this regulatory step in the oxidation/organification of iodine.

As previously mentioned, the oxidation of iodide to iodine occurs through the interaction of H2O2 and TPO. Iodine is a necessary product in order to provide the correct molecule in the cell so that organification can occur. If organification does not take place or is blocked, thyroid hormone and iodo-lipids will not be formed. As can be seen from Figure 3, this reaction is controlled by intracellular calcium levels and iodinated lipids—δ-iodolactone.

Intracellular calcium stimulates this pathway. On the other hand, δ-iodolactone and other iodinated lipids act as a brake on the system. If there is not enough iodine in the cell to organify and produce adequate amounts of δ-iodolactone, it can set the stage for damage to the thyroid cell and the development of an autoimmune thyroid disorder such as Hashimoto’s or Graves’ disease.

A Proposed Mechanism for the Development ofAutoimmune Thyroid Disorders

The NADPH oxydase system is found in the mitochondria of our cells. The mitochondria are the energy-producing cells of our body. The mitochondria produce energy (i.e., ATP) through a complex process called oxidative phosphorylation. All medical students (and most physicians) are familiar with oxidative phosphorylation because we have to memorize the many steps responsible for producing ATP. This production of ATP requires many items including: oxygen, magnesium, ADP, and amino acids.

Many people with chronic illnesses, such as fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, and autoimmune disorders, complain they have no energy. ATP is the molecule that stores energy for the body. The body is constantly producing and utilizing ATP. Its production is a complex process that is beyond this book. However, there are two cofactors, Vitamins B2 (riboflavin) and B3 (niacin), that are integral to stimulating oxidative phosphorylation and ATP production.

Hydrogen peroxide is a byproduct of oxidative phosphorylation. It is this production of hydrogen peroxide that is so critical to the oxidation process of iodine. Hydrogen peroxide and TPO help to oxidize iodide to form iodine.

If there is a deficiency in iodine, which is common when ingesting the RDA for iodine, there will not be enough substrate (i.e., iodine) to produce iodinated lipids. As can be seen from Figure 3, the lack of δ-iodolactone and other iodinated lipids results in a loss of the ‘brake’ in the pathway to oxidize iodide. This may result in a temporarily production of too much hydrogen peroxide. This excess hydrogen peroxide can damage the enzyme TPO.

What Happens If TPO Is Damaged? Autoimmune Thyroid Illness

The body’s response to TPO damage is to produce antibodies against TPO or anti-TPO antibodies. A diagnosis of Hashimoto’s disease requires the presence of anti-TPO antibodies. As the damage worsens, surrounding proteins can also be damaged such as thyroglobulin. Damaged thyroglobulin will result in the body producing antibodies against thyroglobulin—anti-thyroglobulin antibodies.

In most cases of Hashimoto’s disease, there are antibodies to both TPO and thyroglobulin present. Although Graves’ disease may also possess these same antibodies, antibody production is not necessary to make the diagnosis of Graves’ disease. However, my clinical experience has shown that the treatment for both Hashimoto’s and Graves’ disease can follow a similar course with similar positive outcomes.

How to Treat Autoimmune Thyroid Disorders

1. Ingest enough iodine in order to provide adequate substrate to iodinate lipids.

2. Take Vitamins B2 (Riboflavin) and B3 (Niacin) in amounts necessary to stimulate the NADPH system to produce adequate amounts of H2O2.

3. Correct oxidant stress in the thyroid gland and the mitochondria with antioxidants.

4. Ensure adequate magnesium levels.

5. Minimize oxidative stress in the body.

14. My TSH went up on Iodine.

This is a common occurrence when a person starts to take iodine after being deficient. The body increases TSH to stimulate production of thyroglobulin which is used to bind to the iodine in thyroid hormone production. Individuals can have TSH levels as high as 75 for up to 6 months without clinical signs of hypothyroidism. The best values to check with labs if there is a concern are the Free T3 and Free T4. You will find in most cases that the “frees” are nicely within the ranges.

15. I have adrenal fatigue. Can I take Iodine?

Yes, Iodine is used by every gland and mucosal lining and is needed to heal the adrenals. You should also use unrefined salt to support them as well as Vitamin C. Other products such as ashwaganda, licorice root, adrenal glandulars and in severe conditions a doctor can prescribe hydrocortisone to replace the body’s deficiency.

16. I have breast cancer and would like to learn more about using Iodine.

The best resource for breast cancer is www.breastcancerchoices.org which is a non-profit organization run by Lynne Farrow who is a breast cancer survivor. They are dedicated to the grass roots research into iodine’s effectiveness as treatment.

17. Bromide Toxicity and Iodine Loading Test.

As the years have gone by members of the group have been testing relatively high in their saturation levels with the Iodine loading tests. This is usually met with jubilation that they are at a good level. But wait! This isn’t a place to stop. A bromide level test has become available and can be added to the loading test. This is highly recommended because it gives a clearer picture of what the TRUE status of the saturation level is. As a general rule if you see a higher saturation level (80% or above) with a bromide level over 10 mgs/L (the upper limit of normal per Dr. Guy Abraham) you are bromide toxic and the receptors that would normally be able to pull iodine into the cells cannot because bromide is blocking the receptors. This will result in a high level of iodine being eliminated in the urine indicating (falsely) that you are more saturated than you are. Persons with results such as these should consider supplementing with Lugol’s or Iodoral in doses of 50 mgs or more for 6 mos to 1 year and then retest Iodine Loading and Bromide levels to see what the new status is. Dr. Abraham has stated that this amount of time is needed to make significant progress in detoxing and to build saturation in the cells. After supplementing for 6 mos to 1 year, the trend has been to see saturation levels go down while bromide elimination levels increase. Another reason for a false high reading in saturation levels is due to defects in the symporters of the cells. Dr. Abraham addresses this on his website at http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/IOD-11/IOD_11.htm which suggests the usage of Vitamin C to heal symporters.

18. Ordering an Iodine Loading Test with Bromide Levels. It is recommended that you order both the 24 hour loading and bromide level test. We recommend this because you may obtain a high saturation level and believe that your levels are fine when in fact bromide toxicity will block the iodine receptors not allowing iodine to enter the cell which results in an elimination of iodine when it is needed / deficient thus skewing the test results. The following list is a compilation of resources for obtaining the Iodine loading test.

Hakala Research

885 Parfet Street Unit E

Lakewood, CO 80215

877.238.1779

*** It is not recommended that you do the spot test as this is only an indicator of how much iodine is in the diet and offers no real value to the body saturation. The two asterisk items are the recommended tests.

** Iodine Loading Kit Only $70

Iodine Spot Level Kit Only $70

Iodine Spot and Loading Kit $95

** Bromide Level Testing (must be combined with one of the above kits) $35

Test prices do not include return shipping.

They now also offer iodine serum/saliva testing to check for Organification / Oxidation issues as well as symporter defects. The test is available two ways:

1. 24 hour Iodine loading test plus the serum saliva ratio cost: $155.00.

2. Serum saliva ratio without the urine test cost: $110.00.

The serum/saliva ratio gives the degree of usage of iodine within the cell, if the ratio is below normal this signifies a symporter defect (NIS) while a higher than normal ratio points to an organification problem.

According to Dr. Abrahams articles the symporter can be repaired using 3 gm of slow release Vitamin C per day, the organification issue responds to ATP CoFactors (Riboflavin 100mg + NoFlush Niacin 500mg) twice daily.

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FFP Labs

Dr. Jorg Flechas MD

80 Doctors Drive Ste 3

ville, NC 28792

(1-877-900-5556)

The cost of this test is $80.

If it is not ordered by a physician you must tell them you are ordering it on your own and they will assign you to a nurse practitioner. When you get the results of this test you can receive a free consultation with Dr. Flechas.

You may also obtain a urine spot test for an additional $30 for a total of $110 for both tests.

Spot / Loading / Bromide test can be obtained for $230

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Vitamin Research Products

** As of the last time this test was reviewed no bromide testing is available.

http://www.vrp.com/ProductPage.aspx?ProdID=9137

$100 for both the spot and loading test.

Kit requires an ordering physician.

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Doctors Data

** This lab does not seem to report in the manner that is described in Dr. Abraham’s research so it is difficult to determine true saturation and bromide levels.

Pre and post loading - requires an ordering physician. http://www.doctorsdata.com/test_info.asp?id=118

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ZRT Laboratories

This is a new test that is not performed in the manner outlined by Dr. Abraham, Dr Brownstein or Dr. Flechas which has been used effectively since the 1990’s. It has not been proven to correlate with the health conditions of those with iodine deficiency and does not offer a bromide level test which is critical in determining how accurate the saturation level is. At this point the Iodine group does not recommend this test.

19. Recommended Reading.

Many of the questions asked over and over are covered in these reference materials. Please familiarize yourself with them to help with limiting the repetition of information on the group.

a. Dr Brownstein – Iodine Why You Need It, Why You Can’t Live Without it www.drbrownstein.com

b. Dr. Brownstein – Salt Your Way To Health

c. Dr. Derry – Breast Cancer and Iodine: How to Prevent and How to Survive Breast Cancer http://www.thyroidscience.com/reviews/derry/derry.9.19.09.htm

d. www.optimox.com - Research by Dr. Guy Abraham – the founder of The Iodine Project

e. www.iodine4health.com - The Iodine Group’s repository for Iodine research.

20. INDEX

Adrenal fatigue, 6

Antibodies, 5

Atomidine iodine. See Detoxified iodine

ATP, 3, 5

ATP CoFactors

as optional supporting nutrient, 2

physiology, 5

Autoimmune thyroid diseases

mechanism causing, 5

treatment of, 6

underlying cause, 4

Breast cancer, 6

Bromide testing

in combination with iodine loading test, 6

ordering, 7, 8

second testing, 6

Bromides. See also Detoxification

and the iodine loading test, 6

and weight gain, 4

bombarding our systems, 2

normal levels of, 6

sources of, 3

Calcium, weight gain and, 4

Cancer

breast cancer, 6

how much iodine to take, 2

Celtic sea salt. See Salt, unrefined

Chelation, mercury amalgam fillings and, 4

Children, how much iodine to take, 2

Chlorine, as halide, bombarding our systems, 2

Companion nutrients. See Supporting nutrients required

Dental mercury amalgam fillings, 4

Detoxification

forms of iodine not producing, 1

length of time expected for, 3

symptoms of, salt loading protocol to alleviate, 3

Detoxified iodine

amount of iodine in, 1

for children under 3 years, 2

Doctors Data (laboratory), 8

Ferritin levels dropping, 4

FFP Labs, 8

Flame retardants, as source of bromides, 3

Fluoride, as halide, bombarding our systems, 2

Food

as source of bromides, 3

taking supplements with, 3

Forms of iodine, 1

Free T3, and rise in TSH, 6

Free T4, and rise in TSH, 6

Graves' disease

antibodies and, 5

treatment of, 6

underlying cause of, 5

Hakala Research (laboratory), 7

Halides. See also Bromides; Detoxification

list of types of, 2

Hashimoto's disease, 4

cause underlying, 4

mechanism causing, 5

treatment of, 6

How much iodine to take

cancer, 2

children, 2

maintenance, 2

with false saturation results, 6

Iodinated lipids, 5

Iodine

dosage. See How much iodine to take

forms of, 1

saturation with. See Saturation with iodine

testing. See Iodine Loading Test

when to take, 3

Iodine Loading Test

and bromides, effect on results of, 6

ordered with Bromide Levels Test, 7

ordering, 7, 8

second testing, time for, 6

Iodine Spot Test, 7, 8

Iodoral

amount of iodine per tablet, 1

how much to take, 2

where to buy, 3

Iosol, 1

Length of time to take iodine, 3

Lugol's liquid iodine

amount of iodine per drop, 1

how much to take, 2

Magnascent iodine. See Detoxified iodine

Magnesium

as supporting nutrient, amount to take, 2

weight gain and, 4

Mercury

amalgam fillings in teeth, 4

bombarding our systems, 2

Nascent iodine. See Detoxified iodine

Niacin

as optional, 3

in treatment of autoimmune thyroid diseases, 6

no-flush, amount to take, 7

physiology and, 5

Oxidation/organification of iodine

ATP CoFactors to treat, 7

physiology, 4

test to check function of, 7

Patch test on skin, 4

Phosphorylation, 5

Prolamine (Standard Process), 1

Resources

cancer and iodine, 2

Dr. Brownstein books, 9

Dr. Derry article, 9

Dr. Guy Abraham articles (Optimox site), 9

Iodine Group's iodine research site, 9

skin patch test, 4

where to buy Iodoral, 3

www.breastcancerchoices.org, 6

Riboflavin

amount to take, 7

as optional, 3

in treatment of autoimmune thyroid diseases, 6

physiology and, 5

Salt loading protocol, 3

Salt, unrefined

adrenal fatigue and, 6

as supporting nutrient, amount to take, 2

function in body, 2, 3

in salt loading protocol, 3

Saturation with iodine

and false readings, 6

Detoxified iodine not providing, 1

Selenium

and cancer, 2

as supporting nutrient, 2

Skin patch test, 4

Supporting nutrients required

amounts and functions, 2

when to take, 3

Symporter defects

and false high reading in saturation levels, 7

test for, 7

Vitamin C in treatment of, 7

T3, free. See Free T4

T4, free. See Free T4

Thyroglobulin, 5, 6

Thyroid hormones

ferritin in production of, 4

iodine in production of, 5, 6

selenium in production of, 2

TSH rising and, 6

Time

for second round of testing, 6

length of, to take iodine, 3

of day, to take supplements, 3

TPO, 5

TSH rise, following iodine supplementation, 6

Vitamin B group, and weight gain, 4

Vitamin B2. See Riboflavin

Vitamin B3. See Niacin

Vitamin C

adrenal fatigue and, 6

as supporting nutrient, 2

symporter defects healing with, 7

Vitamin D, 4

Vitamin Research Products, 8

Weight gain, 4

www.breastcancerchoices.org, 6

ZRT Laboratories, 8

New here, bloodwork mess> > > > Hi all,> I recently had some blood work done to prepare for a dental revision (Huggins doctor replacing fillings) and a number of things came up that are concerning. I am just wondering, if anyone believes that iodine can help. > > -borderline thyroid numbers (she said sluggish thyroid)> Yes the full iodine protocol (outlined in the new member document) can help to increase thyroid function.> > -slightly enlarged thyroid> Yes it can reduce goiters - check out the pictures in the files of the group.> > -low sodium> > No Iodine will not increase sodium levels. Only supplementing with unrefined salt such as celtic will raise this level.> -low cholesteral> No you will need to increase your intake of good fats> > -blood sugar a tad too high> A diet free of refined carbs, lots of whole foods and yes iodine will have an effect on blood sugar levels.> > -protein digestion isn't great and protein is too high> Iodine is found in the lining of the stomach so it can be beneficial to digestion. I would suggest getting on a good digestive enzyme combo to help this. > > -phosphorus low> Beef, tuna, chicken and lobster are all great sources of phosphorus. You can also supplement.> > -red blood count is a little low and MCV is elevated, large red blood cells, plus lower platelets> > Ingesting wheatgrass or organ meats can increase RBC levels. What is your diet like? > > > > Buist, ND> > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I've been doing some research and have a few ideas, plus what the doctor suggested, but I wonder if this group has different views on the iodine connection, if there is one (I know the thyroid is a huge one).> > Thanks in advance!!> >

[Guest guest]

If you can't open them, send me an email. I use a Mac also and can send to you

in a file you can open.

Linn

> >

> > Comments below:

> >

> >

> > New here, bloodwork mess

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I recently had some blood work done to prepare for a dental revision

(Huggins doctor replacing fillings) and a number of things came up that are

concerning. I am just wondering, if anyone believes that iodine can help.

> >

> > -borderline thyroid numbers (she said sluggish thyroid)

> > Yes the full iodine protocol (outlined in the new member document) can

help to increase thyroid function.

> >

> > -slightly enlarged thyroid

> > Yes it can reduce goiters - check out the pictures in the files of the

group.

> >

> > -low sodium

> >

> > No Iodine will not increase sodium levels. Only supplementing with

unrefined salt such as celtic will raise this level.

> > -low cholesteral

> > No you will need to increase your intake of good fats

> >

> > -blood sugar a tad too high

> > A diet free of refined carbs, lots of whole foods and yes iodine will have

an effect on blood sugar levels.

> >

> > -protein digestion isn't great and protein is too high

> > Iodine is found in the lining of the stomach so it can be beneficial to

digestion. I would suggest getting on a good digestive enzyme combo to help

this.

> >

> > -phosphorus low

> > Beef, tuna, chicken and lobster are all great sources of phosphorus. You

can also supplement.

> >

> > -red blood count is a little low and MCV is elevated, large red blood

cells, plus lower platelets

> >

> > Ingesting wheatgrass or organ meats can increase RBC levels. What is your

diet like?

> >

> >

> >

> > Buist, ND

> >

> > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I've been doing some

research and have a few ideas, plus what the doctor suggested, but I wonder if

this group has different views on the iodine connection, if there is one (I know

the thyroid is a huge one).

> >

> > Thanks in advance!!

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much, that was VERY helpful! I've bookmarked this discussion.

> >

> > Comments below:

> >

> >

> > New here, bloodwork mess

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I recently had some blood work done to prepare for a dental revision

(Huggins doctor replacing fillings) and a number of things came up that are

concerning. I am just wondering, if anyone believes that iodine can help.

> >

> > -borderline thyroid numbers (she said sluggish thyroid)

> > Yes the full iodine protocol (outlined in the new member document) can

help to increase thyroid function.

> >

> > -slightly enlarged thyroid

> > Yes it can reduce goiters - check out the pictures in the files of the

group.

> >

> > -low sodium

> >

> > No Iodine will not increase sodium levels. Only supplementing with

unrefined salt such as celtic will raise this level.

> > -low cholesteral

> > No you will need to increase your intake of good fats

> >

> > -blood sugar a tad too high

> > A diet free of refined carbs, lots of whole foods and yes iodine will have

an effect on blood sugar levels.

> >

> > -protein digestion isn't great and protein is too high

> > Iodine is found in the lining of the stomach so it can be beneficial to

digestion. I would suggest getting on a good digestive enzyme combo to help

this.

> >

> > -phosphorus low

> > Beef, tuna, chicken and lobster are all great sources of phosphorus. You

can also supplement.

> >

> > -red blood count is a little low and MCV is elevated, large red blood

cells, plus lower platelets

> >

> > Ingesting wheatgrass or organ meats can increase RBC levels. What is your

diet like?

> >

> >

> >

> > Buist, ND

> >

> > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I've been doing some

research and have a few ideas, plus what the doctor suggested, but I wonder if

this group has different views on the iodine connection, if there is one (I know

the thyroid is a huge one).

> >

> > Thanks in advance!!

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Linn, if you think there is anything in particular that is super

important, besides the newcomer message listing the protocol (which was posted

above), I would love, if you could send them to me!

> > >

> > > Comments below:

> > >

> > >

> > > New here, bloodwork mess

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > > I recently had some blood work done to prepare for a dental revision

(Huggins doctor replacing fillings) and a number of things came up that are

concerning. I am just wondering, if anyone believes that iodine can help.

> > >

> > > -borderline thyroid numbers (she said sluggish thyroid)

> > > Yes the full iodine protocol (outlined in the new member document) can

help to increase thyroid function.

> > >

> > > -slightly enlarged thyroid

> > > Yes it can reduce goiters - check out the pictures in the files of the

group.

> > >

> > > -low sodium

> > >

> > > No Iodine will not increase sodium levels. Only supplementing with

unrefined salt such as celtic will raise this level.

> > > -low cholesteral

> > > No you will need to increase your intake of good fats

> > >

> > > -blood sugar a tad too high

> > > A diet free of refined carbs, lots of whole foods and yes iodine will

have an effect on blood sugar levels.

> > >

> > > -protein digestion isn't great and protein is too high

> > > Iodine is found in the lining of the stomach so it can be beneficial to

digestion. I would suggest getting on a good digestive enzyme combo to help

this.

> > >

> > > -phosphorus low

> > > Beef, tuna, chicken and lobster are all great sources of phosphorus.

You can also supplement.

> > >

> > > -red blood count is a little low and MCV is elevated, large red blood

cells, plus lower platelets

> > >

> > > Ingesting wheatgrass or organ meats can increase RBC levels. What is

your diet like?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Buist, ND

> > >

> > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I've been doing some

research and have a few ideas, plus what the doctor suggested, but I wonder if

this group has different views on the iodine connection, if there is one (I know

the thyroid is a huge one).

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance!!

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

So are your boys autistic? I have Aspergers and my son is autisic, we have been

gfcfsf and crap free for many years. I was in denial about gluten for myself

for so long, i didn't want to be gf, but alas I was forced to face that I was in

fact hurting myself with every bite. Also soy is bad for the thyroid and most

amys dairy free products have soy. This way of life doesn't have to be

expensive, but it is not convenient that is for sure.

>

> A typical (meals) day for me is ezekeil toast with virgin coconut oil on top

(sometimes I add all natural peanut butter and banana slices) for breakfast or

oatmeal or organic eggs and bacon, lunch might be a sandwich or an Amy's dairy

free burrito (no dairy for us) a salad, or leftovers from the night before, and

dinner is almost always a meat and veggie, we love salads! There is lots of

avocado in our diets, only healthy oils like coconut, macadamia nut and avocado.

I like to make stews like chicken and lentils or beef stew (all low oxalate

veggies like turnips and cabbage).

>

> I am thinking of cutting gluten out completely....but haven't done it yet. It

has never bothered me, I am just trying to think of an even cleaner diet for

myself. The kids are both GFCF and low oxalate, so it wouldn't be far off from

the diet we already have with them. Just means more money. Blech.

>

[Guest guest]

aspergers have low cortisol.check your adrenal

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Healthday/story?id=7242537 & page=1

 

for the autist check among other things also low dose naltrexone

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 7:41 PM, <seanandkaty@...> wrote:

 

So are your boys autistic? I have Aspergers and my son is autisic, we have been gfcfsf and crap free for many years. I was in denial about gluten for myself for so long, i didn't want to be gf, but alas I was forced to face that I was in fact hurting myself with every bite. Also soy is bad for the thyroid and most amys dairy free products have soy. This way of life doesn't have to be expensive, but it is not convenient that is for sure.

> > A typical (meals) day for me is ezekeil toast with virgin coconut oil on top (sometimes I add all natural peanut butter and banana slices) for breakfast or oatmeal or organic eggs and bacon, lunch might be a sandwich or an Amy's dairy free burrito (no dairy for us) a salad, or leftovers from the night before, and dinner is almost always a meat and veggie, we love salads! There is lots of avocado in our diets, only healthy oils like coconut, macadamia nut and avocado. I like to make stews like chicken and lentils or beef stew (all low oxalate veggies like turnips and cabbage).

> > I am thinking of cutting gluten out completely....but haven't done it yet. It has never bothered me, I am just trying to think of an even cleaner diet for myself. The kids are both GFCF and low oxalate, so it wouldn't be far off from the diet we already have with them. Just means more money. Blech.

>

[Guest guest]

Well, that is a hard question to answer. My older son's health status mirrors

that of a child with an ASD, but he has not been officially diagnosed as being

on the spectrum. Although we haven't asked him to be evaluated either, so it's

like he's in the gray area. When we first when to our DAN! we weren't look for

a diagnosis, but he did say that some of his behaviors could put him mildly on

the spectrum, aspergers, but he was hesitant to diagnose him, because he " could

grow out of the behaviors " . Well he didn't grow out of them per say, we treated

him and he's healthier. The only symptom that truly remains now, 47 rounds into

Andy Cutler chelation is anxiety/frustration.

Anyway, at the risk of not staying on topic, I am going to try going gluten

free, which means having to visit the health food store a bit more frequently,

lol. Today was my first day completely gluten free...I am tired, but it's

nothing different from the norm lately. It seems like as I increase the

Lugol's, I feel more and more tired...maybe I should cut back or reduce my dose

a bit and stay there for a while?

> So are your boys autistic? I have Aspergers and my son is autisic, we have

been gfcfsf and crap free for many years. I was in denial about gluten for

myself for so long, i didn't want to be gf, but alas I was forced to face that I

was in fact hurting myself with every bite. Also soy is bad for the thyroid and

most amys dairy free products have soy. This way of life doesn't have to be

expensive, but it is not convenient that is for sure.

>

> >

> > A typical (meals) day for me is ezekeil toast with virgin coconut oil on top

(sometimes I add all natural peanut butter and banana slices) for breakfast or

oatmeal or organic eggs and bacon, lunch might be a sandwich or an Amy's dairy

free burrito (no dairy for us) a salad, or leftovers from the night before, and

dinner is almost always a meat and veggie, we love salads! There is lots of

avocado in our diets, only healthy oils like coconut, macadamia nut and avocado.

I like to make stews like chicken and lentils or beef stew (all low oxalate

veggies like turnips and cabbage).

> >

> > I am thinking of cutting gluten out completely....but haven't done it yet.

It has never bothered me, I am just trying to think of an even cleaner diet for

myself. The kids are both GFCF and low oxalate, so it wouldn't be far off from

the diet we already have with them. Just means more money. Blech.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My am fasting blood cortisol was midrange, which my doc thinks is fine, but I do

not. I will be getting a saliva test soon. Can't afford to pay a doc out of

pocket. I was taking isocort when that blood test was run, doc wanted me to go

off and test am and pm. Isn't low dose naltexone prescription only? Can't find

a doc to biomedically treat my son, doing it on my own within my financial

means. You see it doesn't matter if a treatment works if I can't pay for it.

> > So are your boys autistic? I have Aspergers and my son is autisic, we have

> > been gfcfsf and crap free for many years. I was in denial about gluten for

> > myself for so long, i didn't want to be gf, but alas I was forced to face

> > that I was in fact hurting myself with every bite. Also soy is bad for the

> > thyroid and most amys dairy free products have soy. This way of life doesn't

> > have to be expensive, but it is not convenient that is for sure.

> >

> > >

> > > A typical (meals) day for me is ezekeil toast with virgin coconut oil on

> > top (sometimes I add all natural peanut butter and banana slices) for

> > breakfast or oatmeal or organic eggs and bacon, lunch might be a sandwich or

> > an Amy's dairy free burrito (no dairy for us) a salad, or leftovers from the

> > night before, and dinner is almost always a meat and veggie, we love salads!

> > There is lots of avocado in our diets, only healthy oils like coconut,

> > macadamia nut and avocado. I like to make stews like chicken and lentils or

> > beef stew (all low oxalate veggies like turnips and cabbage).

> > >

> > > I am thinking of cutting gluten out completely....but haven't done it

> > yet. It has never bothered me, I am just trying to think of an even cleaner

> > diet for myself. The kids are both GFCF and low oxalate, so it wouldn't be

> > far off from the diet we already have with them. Just means more money.

> > Blech.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>