Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I've been getting my iodoral from www.pureformulas.com It is currently 28.50 for a bottle of 180 tabs, the 12.5mg dose. They have free shipping too. I am able to purchase other supplements that my doc wants me to use, such as those from RLC labs, Labs, Vital Nutrients, etc. there also. For most everything else I go to Vitacost. Some encouragement for newbies: Someone asked a little while ago for positive stories about iodine usage. I have Hashimoto's, adrenal fatigue, very low ferritin. I started in earnest with iodine on December 31st, working my way up to 50mg by February 14th. I may go higher with the iodine, but for now I'm at 50mgs. The last time I had my bloodwork done was in November. My Ferritin was 20 then (originally started at 4), but last week it was 34. Yeah! I am taking iron, but I've been taking iron since July last year...I think the iodine is making the difference. My free T3 came up from 2.7 (Nov) to 3.1. My free T4 actually went down from 1.21 to .97 - not sure why. My TSH went up from 1.533 to 3.182 - this was expected per Dr. Brownstein's book. Anyone know why my T4 went down? I am seeing a big difference in the profound fatigue I was experiencing - my energy levels are very much improved! Not where I want to be, but better, much better. I am also sleeping through the night - whew! I have been on a couple of other , and I have been very impressed with the moderators of this group. I try to keep up with the reading, and I understand that you can't address every concern - but it seems to me that you answer a much higher percentage of members' concerns than other groups I've been on. I really appreciate all the information you share. It has been very helpful to me. It's difficult to take all this info in, but as someone else said, you just keep reading and re-reading and eventually it starts to sink in. Thank you so much, a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I'm taking zinc, and I'm getting tyrosine in a thyroid support formula. If I'm using my T4 stores, what's the next step to correct it? Should I be on Armour? a "Why did your T4 go down? This is the way I understand it. T4 is the inactive form of thyroid hormone (the reserve, so to speak) which reacts with selenium as your body needs the active form, T3. Essentially your store thyroid hormone as T4 until you need to use it as T3. I would guess that your body needs more of the active form right now so it is depleting the T4 supply. Your thyroid gland makes thyroid hormone from iodine and the amino acid, tyrosine. I have read that zinc is also involved in the process, so I take a tyrosine supplement, and zinc, both as an individual supplement and in a calcium, magnesium, zinc tablet." > Some encouragement for newbies: Someone asked a little while ago for positive stories about iodine usage. I have Hashimoto's, adrenal fatigue, very low ferritin. I started in earnest with iodine on December 31st, working my way up to 50mg by February 14th. I may go higher with the iodine, but for now I'm at 50mgs. The last time I had my bloodwork done was in November. My Ferritin was 20 then (originally started at 4), but last week it was 34. Yeah! I am taking iron, but I've been taking iron since July last year...I think the iodine is making the difference. My free T3 came up from 2.7 (Nov) to 3.1. My free T4 actually went down from 1.21 to .97 - not sure why. My TSH went up from 1.533 to 3.182 - this was expected per Dr. Brownstein's book. Anyone know why my T4 went down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 I think the reference range for free T4 is .7 - 1.9, so you are within that range. It sounds like you are giving your thyroid all the support it needs, so it may just be a matter of more time to bring up your free T4, if it even needs to be brought up higher. I understand that current free T4 immunoassays are merely estimate tests, and do not measure free T4 directly, so being nearer the low end of the range would not bother me personally. The free T3 and T4 in your body is a relatively small fraction of the total T3 and T4 you have in you. The balance is bound with thyroxine binding globulin (hence not free) as it circulates in your blood, and since your thyroid produces 20 times more T4 than T3 you no doubt have a large reserve of T4. Are you on a low fat diet? Contrary to conventional wisdom, I think a low fat diet is a health killer. We need saturated fats and meat proteins, and only a couple vegetable oils are healthful (olive and unrefined coconut oil). Usually people on low fat diets are on high carb diets and usually these carbs are refined. I am not a medical professional so can't say if you need Armour, but if I were in your shoes, I would not even consider it since you are within the normal range for free T3 and T4 and you are feeling improved on your regimen. > > I'm taking zinc, and I'm getting tyrosine in a thyroid support formula. If I'm using my T4 stores, what's the next step to correct it? Should I be on Armour? > a > > > > " Why did your T4 go down? This is the way I understand it. T4 is the inactive form of thyroid hormone (the reserve, so to speak) which reacts with selenium as your body needs the active form, T3. Essentially your store thyroid hormone as T4 until you need to use it as T3. I would guess that your body needs more of the active form right now so it is depleting the T4 supply. > > Your thyroid gland makes thyroid hormone from iodine and the amino acid, tyrosine. I have read that zinc is also involved in the process, so I take a tyrosine supplement, and zinc, both as an individual supplement and in a calcium, magnesium, zinc tablet. " > > > > Some encouragement for newbies: Someone asked a little while ago for positive stories about iodine usage. I have Hashimoto's, adrenal fatigue, very low ferritin. I started in earnest with iodine on December 31st, working my way up to 50mg by February 14th. I may go higher with the iodine, but for now I'm at 50mgs. The last time I had my bloodwork done was in November. My Ferritin was 20 then (originally started at 4), but last week it was 34. Yeah! I am taking iron, but I've been taking iron since July last year...I think the iodine is making the difference. My free T3 came up from 2.7 (Nov) to 3.1. My free T4 actually went down from 1.21 to .97 - not sure why. My TSH went up from 1.533 to 3.182 - this was expected per Dr. Brownstein's book. Anyone know why my T4 went down? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 If I recall past discussions correctly I believe I have read post that thyroid numbers can fluctuate for 6 months or so when starting the iodine procotol. I am thinking (but not positive) that this was said in the context of free T3 & free T4 also, not just TSH. Perhaps let how you are feeling be the most important guide rather than using the criteria of tests results? There has also been some discussion and compelling articles shared about the accuracy of lab results ~ so as incredibly useful as they can be, serum labs at times can be misleading and/or just the snapshot for that particular time & day, which may not reflect the overall condition. Dr. Rind's site has really good information about thyroid numbers and how they relate to thyroid and adrenal state. Perhaps plug your numbers into his graph to see what clues you might get there about the current numbers verses the previous numbers and how that all correlates to how you feel. Really great to hear your positive story after beginning the iodine protocol! Look forward to future reports :-) > > I'm taking zinc, and I'm getting tyrosine in a thyroid support formula. If I'm using my T4 stores, what's the next step to correct it? Should I be on Armour? > a > > > > " Why did your T4 go down? This is the way I understand it. T4 is the inactive form of thyroid hormone (the reserve, so to speak) which reacts with selenium as your body needs the active form, T3. Essentially your store thyroid hormone as T4 until you need to use it as T3. I would guess that your body needs more of the active form right now so it is depleting the T4 supply. > > Your thyroid gland makes thyroid hormone from iodine and the amino acid, tyrosine. I have read that zinc is also involved in the process, so I take a tyrosine supplement, and zinc, both as an individual supplement and in a calcium, magnesium, zinc tablet. " > > > > Some encouragement for newbies: Someone asked a little while ago for positive stories about iodine usage. I have Hashimoto's, adrenal fatigue, very low ferritin. I started in earnest with iodine on December 31st, working my way up to 50mg by February 14th. I may go higher with the iodine, but for now I'm at 50mgs. The last time I had my bloodwork done was in November. My Ferritin was 20 then (originally started at 4), but last week it was 34. Yeah! I am taking iron, but I've been taking iron since July last year...I think the iodine is making the difference. My free T3 came up from 2.7 (Nov) to 3.1. My free T4 actually went down from 1.21 to .97 - not sure why. My TSH went up from 1.533 to 3.182 - this was expected per Dr. Brownstein's book. Anyone know why my T4 went down? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 No it is just TSH that can be elevated for up to 6 mos to levels as high as 75. The Free T3 & Free T4 will remain stable or improve during this time as the body attempts to heal and obtain optimal levels. Some can get off thyroid meds, others reduce and for still more they have no change. But iodine is more than the thyroid. It is needed by every gland and mucosal lining. It is found in EVERY cell of the body. I think we tend to focus too much on the thyroid component and sadly most doctors tell you that it is not necessary since they are only concerned with links to the thyroid. Buist, ND Owner / Iodine Group Re: Online supplements/some encouragement If I recall past discussions correctly I believe I have read post that thyroid numbers can fluctuate for 6 months or so when starting the iodine procotol. I am thinking (but not positive) that this was said in the context of free T3 & free T4 also, not just TSH.Perhaps let how you are feeling be the most important guide rather than using the criteria of tests results? There has also been some discussion and compelling articles shared about the accuracy of lab results ~ so as incredibly useful as they can be, serum labs at times can be misleading and/or just the snapshot for that particular time & day, which may not reflect the overall condition. Dr. Rind's site has really good information about thyroid numbers and how they relate to thyroid and adrenal state. Perhaps plug your numbers into his graph to see what clues you might get there about the current numbers verses the previous numbers and how that all correlates to how you feel.Really great to hear your positive story after beginning the iodine protocol! Look forward to future reports :-) >> I'm taking zinc, and I'm getting tyrosine in a thyroid support formula. If I'm using my T4 stores, what's the next step to correct it? Should I be on Armour? > a> > > > "Why did your T4 go down? This is the way I understand it. T4 is the inactive form of thyroid hormone (the reserve, so to speak) which reacts with selenium as your body needs the active form, T3. Essentially your store thyroid hormone as T4 until you need to use it as T3. I would guess that your body needs more of the active form right now so it is depleting the T4 supply. > > Your thyroid gland makes thyroid hormone from iodine and the amino acid, tyrosine. I have read that zinc is also involved in the process, so I take a tyrosine supplement, and zinc, both as an individual supplement and in a calcium, magnesium, zinc tablet."> > > > Some encouragement for newbies: Someone asked a little while ago for positive stories about iodine usage. I have Hashimoto's, adrenal fatigue, very low ferritin. I started in earnest with iodine on December 31st, working my way up to 50mg by February 14th. I may go higher with the iodine, but for now I'm at 50mgs. The last time I had my bloodwork done was in November. My Ferritin was 20 then (originally started at 4), but last week it was 34. Yeah! I am taking iron, but I've been taking iron since July last year...I think the iodine is making the difference. My free T3 came up from 2.7 (Nov) to 3.1. My free T4 actually went down from 1.21 to .97 - not sure why. My TSH went up from 1.533 to 3.182 - this was expected per Dr. Brownstein's book. Anyone know why my T4 went down?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Thanks for this ! Do you know the answer to her original question .... why did her free T4 go down? That part of her original post is at the bottom of this thread ... Someone else initially responded to her and then a posted again asking if she should be on Armour (instead of the synthetic she is taking now I presume, but it has been cut from the original post)... > > > > I'm taking zinc, and I'm getting tyrosine in a thyroid support formula. If I'm using my T4 stores, what's the next step to correct it? Should I be on Armour? > > a > > > > > > > > " Why did your T4 go down? This is the way I understand it. T4 is the inactive form of thyroid hormone (the reserve, so to speak) which reacts with selenium as your body needs the active form, T3. Essentially your store thyroid hormone as T4 until you need to use it as T3. I would guess that your body needs more of the active form right now so it is depleting the T4 supply. > > > > Your thyroid gland makes thyroid hormone from iodine and the amino acid, tyrosine. I have read that zinc is also involved in the process, so I take a tyrosine supplement, and zinc, both as an individual supplement and in a calcium, magnesium, zinc tablet. " > > > > > > > Some encouragement for newbies: Someone asked a little while ago for positive stories about iodine usage. I have Hashimoto's, adrenal fatigue, very low ferritin. I started in earnest with iodine on December 31st, working my way up to 50mg by February 14th. I may go higher with the iodine, but for now I'm at 50mgs. The last time I had my bloodwork done was in November. My Ferritin was 20 then (originally started at 4), but last week it was 34. Yeah! I am taking iron, but I've been taking iron since July last year...I think the iodine is making the difference. My free T3 came up from 2.7 (Nov) to 3.1. My free T4 actually went down from 1.21 to .97 - not sure why. My TSH went up from 1.533 to 3.182 - this was expected per Dr. Brownstein's book. Anyone know why my T4 went down? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 It depends on what happened to the FT3. If the FT4 went down and the FT3 went up then it could be just normalizing. If the FT3 went over the top of the range or near the top then checking the RT3 would be in order to determine if liver toxicity could be the issue or even high cortisol levels. You would also need to check temperatures to see if there is a hypo or adrenal or both going on. It would take more investigation. Buist, ND Owner / Iodine group Re: Online supplements/some encouragement Thanks for this ! Do you know the answer to her original question ... why did her free T4 go down? That part of her original post is at the bottom of this thread ... Someone else initially responded to her and then a posted again asking if she should be on Armour (instead of the synthetic she is taking now I presume, but it has been cut from the original post)...> >> > I'm taking zinc, and I'm getting tyrosine in a thyroid support formula. If I'm using my T4 stores, what's the next step to correct it? Should I be on Armour? > > a> > > > > > > > "Why did your T4 go down? This is the way I understand it. T4 is the inactive form of thyroid hormone (the reserve, so to speak) which reacts with selenium as your body needs the active form, T3. Essentially your store thyroid hormone as T4 until you need to use it as T3. I would guess that your body needs more of the active form right now so it is depleting the T4 supply. > > > > Your thyroid gland makes thyroid hormone from iodine and the amino acid, tyrosine. I have read that zinc is also involved in the process, so I take a tyrosine supplement, and zinc, both as an individual supplement and in a calcium, magnesium, zinc tablet."> > > > > > > Some encouragement for newbies: Someone asked a little while ago for positive stories about iodine usage. I have Hashimoto's, adrenal fatigue, very low ferritin. I started in earnest with iodine on December 31st, working my way up to 50mg by February 14th. I may go higher with the iodine, but for now I'm at 50mgs. The last time I had my bloodwork done was in November. My Ferritin was 20 then (originally started at 4), but last week it was 34. Yeah! I am taking iron, but I've been taking iron since July last year...I think the iodine is making the difference. My free T3 came up from 2.7 (Nov) to 3.1. My free T4 actually went down from 1.21 to .97 - not sure why. My TSH went up from 1.533 to 3.182 - this was expected per Dr. Brownstein's book. Anyone know why my T4 went down?> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Thanks . I am betting on that word " normalizing " . I just re-read one of Dr. Fletcha's (or Abram's - I can't remember) articles and he mentions that the T4 can go down also. I haven't had my RT3 checked. I am charting my temps now. I am also not on synthroid or any other TH. I am hoping that iodine will solve my issues and I'll not need any TH. a > > > > > > I'm taking zinc, and I'm getting tyrosine in a thyroid support formula. If I'm using my T4 stores, what's the next step to correct it? Should I be on Armour? > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > " Why did your T4 go down? This is the way I understand it. T4 is the inactive form of thyroid hormone (the reserve, so to speak) which reacts with selenium as your body needs the active form, T3. Essentially your store thyroid hormone as T4 until you need to use it as T3. I would guess that your body needs more of the active form right now so it is depleting the T4 supply. > > > > > > Your thyroid gland makes thyroid hormone from iodine and the amino acid, tyrosine. I have read that zinc is also involved in the process, so I take a tyrosine supplement, and zinc, both as an individual supplement and in a calcium, magnesium, zinc tablet. " > > > > > > > > > > Some encouragement for newbies: Someone asked a little while ago for positive stories about iodine usage. I have Hashimoto's, adrenal fatigue, very low ferritin. I started in earnest with iodine on December 31st, working my way up to 50mg by February 14th. I may go higher with the iodine, but for now I'm at 50mgs. The last time I had my bloodwork done was in November. My Ferritin was 20 then (originally started at 4), but last week it was 34. Yeah! I am taking iron, but I've been taking iron since July last year...I think the iodine is making the difference. My free T3 came up from 2.7 (Nov) to 3.1. My free T4 actually went down from 1.21 to .97 - not sure why. My TSH went up from 1.533 to 3.182 - this was expected per Dr. Brownstein's book. Anyone know why my T4 went down? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Awesome post, a:) I have Hashis as well. My ferritin is 11; still waiting on my Diurnal Cortisol results. I've ordered my supplements and will begin the protocol as soon as they arrive. After the intial 2 weeks of pre-Iodoral stuff, I am going to start at 50mg of Iodoral. I love this group- I'm learning so much from all of you. > > > > I've been getting my iodoral from www.pureformulas.com It is currently 28.50 for a bottle of 180 tabs, the 12.5mg dose. They have free shipping too. I am able to purchase other supplements that my doc wants me to use, such as those from RLC labs, Labs, Vital Nutrients, etc. there also. For most everything else I go to Vitacost. > > > > Some encouragement for newbies: Someone asked a little while ago for positive stories about iodine usage. I have Hashimoto's, adrenal fatigue, very low ferritin. I started in earnest with iodine on December 31st, working my way up to 50mg by February 14th. I may go higher with the iodine, but for now I'm at 50mgs. The last time I had my bloodwork done was in November. My Ferritin was 20 then (originally started at 4), but last week it was 34. Yeah! I am taking iron, but I've been taking iron since July last year...I think the iodine is making the difference. My free T3 came up from 2.7 (Nov) to 3.1. My free T4 actually went down from 1.21 to .97 - not sure why. My TSH went up from 1.533 to 3.182 - this was expected per Dr. Brownstein's book. Anyone know why my T4 went down? > > > > I am seeing a big difference in the profound fatigue I was experiencing - my energy levels are very much improved! Not where I want to be, but better, much better. I am also sleeping through the night - whew! > > > > I have been on a couple of other , and I have been very impressed with the moderators of this group. I try to keep up with the reading, and I understand that you can't address every concern - but it seems to me that you answer a much higher percentage of members' concerns than other groups I've been on. I really appreciate all the information you share. It has been very helpful to me. It's difficult to take all this info in, but as someone else said, you just keep reading and re-reading and eventually it starts to sink in. > > > > Thank you so much, > > a > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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