Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 With respect, I know people have have had very bad results with the Cutler protocol. (I know people with good results, too, but my point is that his protocol is not successful for everybody.) Testing for heavy metals ( & other things) is an issue about which there are a LOT of debates, but many people I know have stopped testing. The heavy metals that hurt you are the ones you cannot excrete; the hair test measures excreted metals. If you are excreting metals, they are not the ones hurting you... The best way to test for heavy metals is a biopsy, but hey, who wants a brain biopsy?And yes, the official position on this list is that the patch test is not valid, because the iodine can evaporate, which is, in turn affected by humidity & temperature in the room, among other things.AnneOn Mar 2, 2011, at 3:21 PM, G wrote: They are 2.5 and 5.5 and both have severe emotional issues (in my opinion anyway), bloating, issues with gut pathogens (the 2.5 year old has an active parasite infection that we are treating naturally now, Dientamoeba Fragilis), food sensitivities, etc. I have had hair tests done on both and the iodine on my 2.5 year old is fairly elevated and in our 5.5 year old, it's normal. Andy Cutler's book says that if the essential elements are deranged and they meet the counting rules, you can't trust the hair test for actual readings. So that would make my 5.5 year old's test bogus, but not for the 2.5 year old. It would mean that his iodine levels are accurate. So my question is this, if his iodine is high, could it be causing the same symptoms as low iodine or is there still a chance he needs it and should I give both kids the iodine based on their clinical symptoms? I tried the patch test, which I hear isn't really a good indication, but it disappeared pretty fast for both, much faster for our 2.5 year old though. Our 5.5 year old kept it for at least 5 hours, I think. Is there anything else I should be looking for symptomatically and is it recommended that we try iodine anyway or with either? I am hesitant to use it with them, but it also sounds like their symptoms would benefit from it. How would I know if by giving it to them, they wouldn't need it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Also with respect, I certainly don't want to get into a discussion about chelation here on the iodine board. I know my stuff about chelation, I am not questioning that. Can someone please answer the question about how to know, if my children need iodine? Thank you > > > They are 2.5 and 5.5 and both have severe emotional issues (in my > > opinion anyway), bloating, issues with gut pathogens (the 2.5 year > > old has an active parasite infection that we are treating naturally > > now, Dientamoeba Fragilis), food sensitivities, etc. > > > > I have had hair tests done on both and the iodine on my 2.5 year > > old is fairly elevated and in our 5.5 year old, it's normal. Andy > > Cutler's book says that if the essential elements are deranged and > > they meet the counting rules, you can't trust the hair test for > > actual readings. So that would make my 5.5 year old's test bogus, > > but not for the 2.5 year old. It would mean that his iodine levels > > are accurate. > > > > So my question is this, if his iodine is high, could it be causing > > the same symptoms as low iodine or is there still a chance he needs > > it and should I give both kids the iodine based on their clinical > > symptoms? I tried the patch test, which I hear isn't really a good > > indication, but it disappeared pretty fast for both, much faster > > for our 2.5 year old though. Our 5.5 year old kept it for at least > > 5 hours, I think. > > > > Is there anything else I should be looking for symptomatically and > > is it recommended that we try iodine anyway or with either? I am > > hesitant to use it with them, but it also sounds like their > > symptoms would benefit from it. How would I know if by giving it to > > them, they wouldn't need it? > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Steph has had more experience with treating younger children, so hopefully she'll see this when she gets back. My daughter was 8 when we starting using iodine. If you are concerned about trying it, you could start with painting Lugol's instead, you won't get nearly as much into their systems, but it's a place some folks start. Linn > > > > > They are 2.5 and 5.5 and both have severe emotional issues (in my > > > opinion anyway), bloating, issues with gut pathogens (the 2.5 year > > > old has an active parasite infection that we are treating naturally > > > now, Dientamoeba Fragilis), food sensitivities, etc. > > > > > > I have had hair tests done on both and the iodine on my 2.5 year > > > old is fairly elevated and in our 5.5 year old, it's normal. Andy > > > Cutler's book says that if the essential elements are deranged and > > > they meet the counting rules, you can't trust the hair test for > > > actual readings. So that would make my 5.5 year old's test bogus, > > > but not for the 2.5 year old. It would mean that his iodine levels > > > are accurate. > > > > > > So my question is this, if his iodine is high, could it be causing > > > the same symptoms as low iodine or is there still a chance he needs > > > it and should I give both kids the iodine based on their clinical > > > symptoms? I tried the patch test, which I hear isn't really a good > > > indication, but it disappeared pretty fast for both, much faster > > > for our 2.5 year old though. Our 5.5 year old kept it for at least > > > 5 hours, I think. > > > > > > Is there anything else I should be looking for symptomatically and > > > is it recommended that we try iodine anyway or with either? I am > > > hesitant to use it with them, but it also sounds like their > > > symptoms would benefit from it. How would I know if by giving it to > > > them, they wouldn't need it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Refer to Section 2 in the New Member Document to see how dosed her children. Regarding how to know if they need it ... the prevailing thought on this forum is that everyone needs iodine (with the supporting nutrients) but at what level one should dose is very individual. Perhaps do a forum search that includes ' children' to peruse posts that she has made in the past about her kids and definitely watch for her return to the forum to present your question again. > > > > > > > They are 2.5 and 5.5 and both have severe emotional issues (in my > > > > opinion anyway), bloating, issues with gut pathogens (the 2.5 year > > > > old has an active parasite infection that we are treating naturally > > > > now, Dientamoeba Fragilis), food sensitivities, etc. > > > > > > > > I have had hair tests done on both and the iodine on my 2.5 year > > > > old is fairly elevated and in our 5.5 year old, it's normal. Andy > > > > Cutler's book says that if the essential elements are deranged and > > > > they meet the counting rules, you can't trust the hair test for > > > > actual readings. So that would make my 5.5 year old's test bogus, > > > > but not for the 2.5 year old. It would mean that his iodine levels > > > > are accurate. > > > > > > > > So my question is this, if his iodine is high, could it be causing > > > > the same symptoms as low iodine or is there still a chance he needs > > > > it and should I give both kids the iodine based on their clinical > > > > symptoms? I tried the patch test, which I hear isn't really a good > > > > indication, but it disappeared pretty fast for both, much faster > > > > for our 2.5 year old though. Our 5.5 year old kept it for at least > > > > 5 hours, I think. > > > > > > > > Is there anything else I should be looking for symptomatically and > > > > is it recommended that we try iodine anyway or with either? I am > > > > hesitant to use it with them, but it also sounds like their > > > > symptoms would benefit from it. How would I know if by giving it to > > > > them, they wouldn't need it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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