Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Here is a link to the Optimox website, specifically the Research Documents. Many of them may be of interest to you and perhaps in particular PUB #9 by Dr. Brownstein. http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/opt_Research_I.shtml I have read about a fellow who has Myasthenia Gravis, an autoimmune neuro-muscular illness, who found remission from significant MG symptoms using dietary suggestions from Walter Last, DHEA and Iodoral. I have been curious to see information about other autoimmune illnesses from the doctors currently using higher doses of iodine but the pickin's are slim. Most of the folks on this forum are dealing with thyroid so there is a lot of discussion about that here and a lot of positive results when doing the full Iodine protocol. If you haven't already - Section 13 of the New Member Document may be of interest to you ... it is located in the Files. www.iodine4health.com may have pertinent information as well. > > Is there any information about iodine and autoimmune diseases ? > I know there are some who think it exasperates autoimmune thyroid. What about those who have neuro-muscular autoimmune disease ? Is iodine helpful or will it cause additional auto-bodies ? > > Any info about this would be helpful. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Thank you very much baxrox ! I have to get I.V. gamma-globulin every month so any immune modulating solutions are very helpful indeed. Iodine is new for me but promises to add a lot to my wellness. I will read carefully those articles you have suggested. Again, thank you, > > > > Is there any information about iodine and autoimmune diseases ? > > I know there are some who think it exasperates autoimmune thyroid. What about those who have neuro-muscular autoimmune disease ? Is iodine helpful or will it cause additional auto-bodies ? > > > > Any info about this would be helpful. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 iodine used to be called the universal medicine. "if ye know not what or why, treat ye then with SKI". more history of iodine at http://www.optimox.com click on research. Gracia On 3/8/2011 10:01 PM, wrote: Is there any information about iodine and autoimmune diseases ? I know there are some who think it exasperates autoimmune thyroid. What about those who have neuro-muscular autoimmune disease ? Is iodine helpful or will it cause additional auto-bodies ? Any info about this would be helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Thank you Gracia ...I'm so glad to hear that. > > > > Is there any information about iodine and autoimmune diseases ? > > I know there are some who think it exasperates autoimmune thyroid. > > What about those who have neuro-muscular autoimmune disease ? Is > > iodine helpful or will it cause additional auto-bodies ? > > > > Any info about this would be helpful. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 You are welcome. Neuromuscular autoimmune is of particular interest to me and for quite some time I have been on the look out for any doctors (or their writings) who have been utilizing the Iodine Protocol with these conditions. Not coming up with much but I am trying to combine what I am learning from the iodine research documents, experiences of those on this forum and the newer approaches of doctors that are delving into the MG, MS, Parkinsons & Alzheimers treatments. Last year I had a conversation with neurologist Perlmutter MD, FACN, ABIHM in which he shared with me that he is one of the doctors pursuing the aforementioned conditions with a protocol that includes the antibiotic Minocycline to target bacteria's such as klebsiella pnuemoniae and chlamydia pneumoniae (amongst others) which are incredibly difficult to test for as they seem to have the ability to " hide out " and also protect themselves with biofilms. (this is all in my words, not a direct quote from him) How does this relate to the iodine protocol?? Consider this quote in article by Dr. Mark Sircus (but I believe the most of the information was gleaned from the Iodine research documents) http://iodine.imva.info/index.php/the-end-of-antibiotics/ " Though it kills 90 percent of bacteria on the skin within 90 seconds its use as an antibiotic has been ignored. Iodine exhibits activity against bacteria, molds, yeasts, protozoa, and many viruses; indeed, of all antiseptic preparations suitable for direct use on humans and animals and upon tissues, only iodine is capable of killing all classes of pathogens: gram-positive and gram-negative bacteria, mycobacteria, fungi, yeasts, viruses and protozoa. Most bacteria are killed within 15 to 30 seconds of contact. " " Iodine is by far the best antibiotic, antiviral and antiseptic of all time. Dr. Derry " End of Quote And this quote from Brownstein, MD: " Iodine has many positive therapeutic actions. It is a potent anti-infective agent. No virus, bacteria or parasite has been shown to be resistant to iodine therapy. I have found that providing adequate iodine to provide the body with iodine sufficiency markedly decreases the number and severity of infections in these patients. Table 3 lists some of the other therapeutic actions of iodine. " So I am thinking that if bacteria (or viruses or fungi) could be at the root of even the neuromuscular autoimmune conditions then the Iodine protocol is a safer and much more thorough approach than antibiotics which kill off the good along with the bad and do nothing to fortify the body with anything. Iodine is needed for every cell in the body and is quite concentrated in some places. The supporting nutrients are needed for iodine to work properly in the body and vice versa. Then, as you may know, they use Mestinon for some of these illnesses and it contains bromine ~ which you will learn is one of the four halides and wreaks havoc with health and well being when it is out of proportion in the body. Then many taking prescriptions like Mestinon turn up needing thyroid medications. As it turns out detoxing bromides is one of the major functions that the iodine protocol is addressing in this modern world. Yes, I agree that the iodine protocol holds promise for neuromuscular autoimmune! Not saying that it will be an easy ride in the beginning ... prior and proper preparation will go a long way for a better experience - but I am glad to hear that you are game to read up on it. To me it seems that most folks getting IVIG think or feel that it is enough because of how good they feel on it ... your pursuit of something more intrigues me! Well, I've rattled on. As I mentioned I am just really looking forward to some documented work or patient experience with some of these other conditions and the iodine protocol. Hmmm, if you proceed with the iodine protocol perhaps you will keep notes of your experience to share with the iodine doctors in the future. If you haven't yet read 's inspiring story of overcoming thyroid cancer you really must include that on your list: http://www.naturalthyroidchoices.com/. > > > > > > Is there any information about iodine and autoimmune diseases ? > > > I know there are some who think it exasperates autoimmune thyroid. What about those who have neuro-muscular autoimmune disease ? Is iodine helpful or will it cause additional auto-bodies ? > > > > > > Any info about this would be helpful. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Had a thought (which is remarkable given how my week has gone)...Would KI work as a surface disinfectant? Regular iodine has the nasty characteristic of staining everything yellow, of course. Jaye <snip>> http://iodine.imva.info/index.php/the-end-of-antibiotics/ > > " Though it kills 90 percent of bacteria on the skin within 90 seconds its use as > an antibiotic has been ignored. Iodine exhibits activity against bacteria, > molds, yeasts, protozoa, and many viruses; indeed, of all antiseptic > preparations suitable for direct use on humans and animals and upon tissues, > only iodine is capable of killing all classes of pathogens: gram-positive and > gram-negative bacteria, mycobacteria, fungi, yeasts, viruses and protozoa. Most > bacteria are killed within 15 to 30 seconds of contact. " > > " Iodine is by far the best antibiotic, antiviral and antiseptic of all time. > Dr. Derry " > > End of Quote > > And this quote from Brownstein, MD: > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 I was given SSKI to flush my wound after having a tooth pulled so it would have properties of disinfectant. Buist, NDOnwer / Iodine Group Re: Iodine and Autoimmune Diseases Had a thought (which is remarkable given how my week has gone)...Would KI work as a surface disinfectant?Regular iodine has the nasty characteristic of staining everything yellow, of course. Jaye<snip>> http://iodine.imva.info/index.php/the-end-of-antibiotics/> > "Though it kills 90 percent of bacteria on the skin within 90 seconds its use as> an antibiotic has been ignored. Iodine exhibits activity against bacteria,> molds, yeasts, protozoa, and many viruses; indeed, of all antiseptic> preparations suitable for direct use on humans and animals and upon tissues,> only iodine is capable of killing all classes of pathogens: gram-positive and> gram-negative bacteria, mycobacteria, fungi, yeasts, viruses and protozoa. Most> bacteria are killed within 15 to 30 seconds of contact."> > "Iodine is by far the best antibiotic, antiviral and antiseptic of all time.> Dr. Derry"> > End of Quote> > And this quote from Brownstein, MD:> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 baxrox, Thank you for all the interesting information. I plan to continue with iodine. I am lucky enough to have the best neurologists you could ever hope for. I keep asking them about alternatives to, or additional help with GG protocol. So far nothing I have mentioned seems to have panned out in the past. I did not mention iodine nor D3, both of which I am learning about at this point. I am making notes and hope to present some news about my journey when the time is right. The results of Iodine supplementation on neuro-muscular auto-immune disease is of great interest to me. I will know more as my experience with iodine grows. Neuro-muscular assessments will determine if the results are mesurable. Good health, > > > > > > > > Is there any information about iodine and autoimmune diseases ? > > > > I know there are some who think it exasperates autoimmune thyroid. What about those who have neuro-muscular autoimmune disease ? Is iodine helpful or will it cause additional auto-bodies ? > > > > > > > > Any info about this would be helpful. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 I have a dog that had auto immune problem (hyperthyroid) and successfully treated her for her immune problem with Australian Bush Flower Essence combination for immune problems. I did add Boab (auto immune ran in the family) and Waratah because the body was attacking itself. I could see a difference in her behaviour in 2 weeks and slowly she gained weight and the thyroid size went down. She was treated 7 drops a day in her water (stirred in). Her sister was also treated for auto immune bleeding disorder with the same mix ( for Thromboplastin) treated with one homeopathic remedy for a few days as well and Reiki as well {owner had level one as well as her daughter} (vet thought she would bleed out as the owner refused to give the cortisone/prednisone shots and decided to try the alternative method first) the next day the vet called to see how the dog was and was surprised the bleeding stopped and wanted to see the dog the next day. He exclaimed it did not even look like the same dog )))) treated as well for the two months. Both are well over 4 years later with no DRUGS or other treatment (they are both raw fed {no grains} and unvaccinated) vaccination in this line can trigger this auto immune problem or stress. I have reported these to vet Dodds that specialized in Thyroid problems and has a colleague looking into it. (not sure that will go very far as they are on the allopathic side) IF I had the neurological problem on top of the auto immune I would add Bush Fuchsia to the mix and Crowea for the muscle involvement. But best of all for you would be to find and Australian Bush Flower Essences practitioner to help you out, though it is a fairly easy system to use, it has an excellent repertory. http://www.ausflowers.com.au/cms/details.asp?NewsID=7 contact details. I would recommend the book " Australian Bush Flower Healing " by Ian White ISBN-10: 073380053X This group is mostly for people using Australian Bush Flower Essences ABFEstudy/ to find the book and essences in your area (most likely the nearest practitioner info would also be available) use your search engine and put in " Australian Bush Flower Essences " with quotes and the book name and the nearest large town to you with state or Country and you should get a list of distributors or suppliers near you. Louise Re: Iodine and Autoimmune Diseases baxrox, Thank you for all the interesting information. I plan to continue with iodine. I am lucky enough to have the best neurologists you could ever hope for. I keep asking them about alternatives to, or additional help with GG protocol. So far nothing I have mentioned seems to have panned out in the past. I did not mention iodine nor D3, both of which I am learning about at this point. I am making notes and hope to present some news about my journey when the time is right. The results of Iodine supplementation on neuro-muscular auto-immune disease is of great interest to me. I will know more as my experience with iodine grows. Neuro-muscular assessments will determine if the results are mesurable. Good health, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 This is all new info to me. Looks interesting. Thank you Louise. > > I have a dog that had auto immune problem (hyperthyroid) and successfully > treated her for her immune problem with Australian Bush Flower Essence > combination for immune problems. I did add Boab (auto immune ran in the > family) and Waratah because the body was attacking itself. > > I could see a difference in her behaviour in 2 weeks and slowly she gained > weight and the thyroid size went down. She was treated 7 drops a day in her > water (stirred in). > > Her sister was also treated for auto immune bleeding disorder with the same > mix ( for Thromboplastin) treated with one homeopathic remedy for a few days > as well and Reiki as well {owner had level one as well as her daughter} (vet > thought she would bleed out as the owner refused to give the > cortisone/prednisone shots and decided to try the alternative method first) > the next day the vet called to see how the dog was and was surprised the > bleeding stopped and wanted to see the dog the next day. He exclaimed it > did not even look like the same dog )))) treated as well for the two > months. Both are well over 4 years later with no DRUGS or other treatment > (they are both raw fed {no grains} and unvaccinated) vaccination in this > line can trigger this auto immune problem or stress. > > I have reported these to vet Dodds that specialized in Thyroid problems and > has a colleague looking into it. (not sure that will go very far as they > are on the allopathic side) > > IF I had the neurological problem on top of the auto immune I would add Bush > Fuchsia to the mix and Crowea for the muscle involvement. But best of all > for you would be to find and Australian Bush Flower Essences practitioner to > help you out, though it is a fairly easy system to use, it has an excellent > repertory. > > http://www.ausflowers.com.au/cms/details.asp?NewsID=7 contact details. > > I would recommend the book " Australian Bush Flower Healing " by Ian White > ISBN-10: 073380053X > This group is mostly for people using Australian Bush Flower Essences > ABFEstudy/ > > to find the book and essences in your area (most likely the nearest > practitioner info would also be available) > use your search engine and put in " Australian Bush Flower Essences " with > quotes and the book name and the nearest large town to you with state or > Country and you should get a list of distributors or suppliers near you. > > Louise > > > > > > Re: Iodine and Autoimmune Diseases > > baxrox, > Thank you for all the interesting information. > > I plan to continue with iodine. I am lucky enough to have the best > neurologists you could ever hope for. I keep asking them about alternatives > to, or additional help with GG protocol. So far nothing I have mentioned > seems to have panned out in the past. I did not mention iodine nor D3, both > of which I am learning about at this point. I am making notes and hope to > present some news about my journey when the time is right. The results of > Iodine supplementation on neuro-muscular auto-immune disease is of great > interest to me. I will know more as my experience with iodine grows. > Neuro-muscular assessments will determine if the results are mesurable. > > Good health, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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