Re: Kelp as soil, crop & feed amendment

[Guest guest]

Fascinating about the deer/lawn!

Thanks so much for the link to the Sea-Agri people. I'm an organic

gardener and sell and trade my excess produce and am going to start adding

this product to my soil.

--

At 11:40 AM 3/12/2011, you wrote:

>It is often said on this forum that kelp is not desirable for iodine

>supplementation and warnings are raised about heavy metals like arsenic

>and mercury for those wanting to use it.

>

>My jury is still out on all that and I lean toward kelp being more

>beneficial than detrimental - when the source is of good quality of

>course. Though I do agree that kelp alone cannot provide the necessary

>quantities of iodine in today's contaminated world. I completely agree

>that Lugol's or Iodoral is needed for an adequate iodine protocol and that

>the companion nutrients are essential.

>

>Yes, even good quality kelp is going to have some elevated amounts of

>certain heavy metals but for me the iodine content, phytonutrients and

>other components of the kelp balance that all out to a degree that is more

>beneficial than detrimental.

>

>Kelp contains what, 80 plus trace minerals or so? And other amazing

>qualities that I'm not going into today.

>

>I believe that a quality source of kelp is extremely beneficial as a

>soil/crop/pasture/feed amendment and will go a long way to healing damage

>done from soil depletion and things like the radiation fallout we

>experience (which happens more often than is realized or advertised).

>

>We have fed our pastured animals free choice kelp for years and they have

>thrived on it. They also receive other minerals free choice so the kelp

>is not a stand alone item, but more than anything we put out for them they

>consume the kelp at significantly higher rate.

>

>Feed pastured animals kelp, spread the manure to fortify the pasture. Use

>kelp on the lawn for fertilizer or spread atop the garden if you don't

>have animals. Compost the manure and lawn clippings to use in the

>garden. Give chickens free choice iodine for enriched eggs. And so on ...

>

>Last year there was an accidental kelp overdose in one part of the lawn

>and it grew prolifically of course. This winter when there was 2 feet of

>snow on the lawn the deer went to that one spot and dug through the snow

>to graze on the lawn below. An interesting observation don't you

>think? Freezing temperatures, 2 feet of snow and yet the deer

>concentrated on that one area. Which by the way is really close to the

>house and not a place that the deer usually travel when they come by. Our

>poor dogs already had limited space to roll in the snow and do their

>business and then the deer decided to make a stand for that lawn space

>... it was a balancing act there for awhile but fortunately nobody got

>hurt (and I'm talking about the dogs here!!) ...

>

>My whole point here being that I think that products like Kelp and

>AgriSea-90 are healing nutrients for depleted and contaminated soils and

>since we are what we eat starting at the root level is always a good idea.

>

>

>

>------------------------------------

>

>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

>group IodineOT/

>

>

>Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

Bax, thanks so much for this. I've been wondering how i can get more iodine (and other nutrients) in to my garden soil. I, too, have pasture animals (horses) and use their manure in my garden, but if they don't have enough iodine, that wouldn't help much.

Also good to know that you've used this product for years! I'm ordering some right now.Again, thanks so much for sharing this info, I really appreciate it.If I have questions about how to apply, etc. might i email you offline?

ArielOn Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:40 PM, baxrox <baxrox@...> wrote:

 

It is often said on this forum that kelp is not desirable for iodine supplementation and warnings are raised about heavy metals like arsenic and mercury for those wanting to use it.

My jury is still out on all that and I lean toward kelp being more beneficial than detrimental - when the source is of good quality of course. Though I do agree that kelp alone cannot provide the necessary quantities of iodine in today's contaminated world. I completely agree that Lugol's or Iodoral is needed for an adequate iodine protocol and that the companion nutrients are essential.

Yes, even good quality kelp is going to have some elevated amounts of certain heavy metals but for me the iodine content, phytonutrients and other components of the kelp balance that all out to a degree that is more beneficial than detrimental.

Kelp contains what, 80 plus trace minerals or so? And other amazing qualities that I'm not going into today.

I believe that a quality source of kelp is extremely beneficial as a soil/crop/pasture/feed amendment and will go a long way to healing damage done from soil depletion and things like the radiation fallout we experience (which happens more often than is realized or advertised).

We have fed our pastured animals free choice kelp for years and they have thrived on it. They also receive other minerals free choice so the kelp is not a stand alone item, but more than anything we put out for them they consume the kelp at significantly higher rate.

Feed pastured animals kelp, spread the manure to fortify the pasture. Use kelp on the lawn for fertilizer or spread atop the garden if you don't have animals. Compost the manure and lawn clippings to use in the garden. Give chickens free choice iodine for enriched eggs. And so on ...

Last year there was an accidental kelp overdose in one part of the lawn and it grew prolifically of course. This winter when there was 2 feet of snow on the lawn the deer went to that one spot and dug through the snow to graze on the lawn below. An interesting observation don't you think? Freezing temperatures, 2 feet of snow and yet the deer concentrated on that one area. Which by the way is really close to the house and not a place that the deer usually travel when they come by. Our poor dogs already had limited space to roll in the snow and do their business and then the deer decided to make a stand for that lawn space ... it was a balancing act there for awhile but fortunately nobody got hurt (and I'm talking about the dogs here!!) ...

My whole point here being that I think that products like Kelp and AgriSea-90 are healing nutrients for depleted and contaminated soils and since we are what we eat starting at the root level is always a good idea.

-- Ariel MonserratPublisher & Managing EditorGreen Egg zinewww.greeneggzine.com

[Guest guest]

I agree. That was great info. I have been having issues with my soil and I think this is just what I need.

Buist, ND

Re: Kelp as soil, crop & feed amendment

Fascinating about the deer/lawn!Thanks so much for the link to the Sea-Agri people. I'm an organic gardener and sell and trade my excess produce and am going to start adding this product to my soil.--At 11:40 AM 3/12/2011, you wrote:>It is often said on this forum that kelp is not desirable for iodine >supplementation and warnings are raised about heavy metals like arsenic >and mercury for those wanting to use it.>>My jury is still out on all that and I lean toward kelp being more >beneficial than detrimental - when the source is of good quality of >course. Though I do agree that kelp alone cannot provide the necessary >quantities of iodine in today's contaminated world. I completely agree >that Lugol's or Iodoral is needed for an adequate iodine protocol and that >the companion nutrients are essential.>>Yes, even good quality kelp is going to have some elevated amounts of >certain heavy metals but for me the iodine content, phytonutrients and >other components of the kelp balance that all out to a degree that is more >beneficial than detrimental.>>Kelp contains what, 80 plus trace minerals or so? And other amazing >qualities that I'm not going into today.>>I believe that a quality source of kelp is extremely beneficial as a >soil/crop/pasture/feed amendment and will go a long way to healing damage >done from soil depletion and things like the radiation fallout we >experience (which happens more often than is realized or advertised).>>We have fed our pastured animals free choice kelp for years and they have >thrived on it. They also receive other minerals free choice so the kelp >is not a stand alone item, but more than anything we put out for them they >consume the kelp at significantly higher rate.>>Feed pastured animals kelp, spread the manure to fortify the pasture. Use >kelp on the lawn for fertilizer or spread atop the garden if you don't >have animals. Compost the manure and lawn clippings to use in the >garden. Give chickens free choice iodine for enriched eggs. And so on ...>>Last year there was an accidental kelp overdose in one part of the lawn >and it grew prolifically of course. This winter when there was 2 feet of >snow on the lawn the deer went to that one spot and dug through the snow >to graze on the lawn below. An interesting observation don't you >think? Freezing temperatures, 2 feet of snow and yet the deer >concentrated on that one area. Which by the way is really close to the >house and not a place that the deer usually travel when they come by. Our >poor dogs already had limited space to roll in the snow and do their >business and then the deer decided to make a stand for that lawn space >... it was a balancing act there for awhile but fortunately nobody got >hurt (and I'm talking about the dogs here!!) ...>>My whole point here being that I think that products like Kelp and >AgriSea-90 are healing nutrients for depleted and contaminated soils and >since we are what we eat starting at the root level is always a good idea.>>>>------------------------------------>>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/>>>Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

I agree too. I have been using kelp for 7 years for my animals and soil. This was when I decided to produce my own food. I keep testing my family for heavy metals and all we are free of them. I'm the only one with uranium, but it does not come from the kelp. I learned about iodine by learning animal husbandry. They key for having a healthy animal is providing them right nutrition. I did use the same kelp as the animals for about 2 years 2006-2008 until the bromides took over me, even I do everything organic. I was already in this list when I was attacked by clouds of bromides -air, spray, water, wireless pollution..... So, I'm very thankful to this list!! From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>iodine Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 11:05:24 AMSubject: Re: Kelp as soil, crop & feed amendment

I agree. That was great info. I have been having issues with my soil and I think this is just what I need.

Buist, ND

Re: Kelp as soil, crop & feed amendment

Fascinating about the deer/lawn!Thanks so much for the link to the Sea-Agri people. I'm an organic gardener and sell and trade my excess produce and am going to start adding this product to my soil.--At 11:40 AM 3/12/2011, you wrote:>It is often said on this forum that kelp is not desirable for iodine >supplementation and warnings are raised about heavy metals like arsenic >and mercury for those wanting to use it.>>My jury is still out on all that and I lean toward kelp being more >beneficial than detrimental - when the source is of good quality of >course. Though I do agree that kelp alone cannot provide the necessary >quantities of iodine in today's contaminated world. I completely agree >that Lugol's or Iodoral is needed for an adequate iodine protocol and that >the companion nutrients are essential.>>Yes, even good quality kelp is going to have some elevated amounts of >certain heavy metals but for me the iodine content, phytonutrients and >other components of the kelp balance that all out to a degree that is more >beneficial than detrimental.>>Kelp contains what, 80 plus trace minerals or so? And other amazing >qualities that I'm not going into today.>>I believe that a quality source of kelp is extremely beneficial as a >soil/crop/pasture/feed amendment and will go a long way to healing damage >done from soil depletion and things like the radiation fallout we >experience (which happens more often than is realized or advertised).>>We have fed our pastured animals free choice kelp for years and they have >thrived on it. They also receive other minerals free choice so the kelp >is not a stand alone item, but more than anything we put out for them they >consume the kelp at significantly higher rate.>>Feed pastured animals kelp, spread the manure to fortify the pasture. Use >kelp on the lawn for fertilizer or spread atop the garden if you don't >have animals. Compost the manure and lawn clippings to use in the >garden. Give chickens free choice iodine for enriched eggs. And so on ...>>Last year there was an accidental kelp overdose in one part of the lawn >and it grew prolifically of course. This winter when there was 2 feet of >snow on the lawn the deer went to that one spot and dug through the snow >to graze on the lawn below. An interesting observation don't you >think? Freezing temperatures, 2 feet of snow and yet the deer >concentrated on that one area. Which by the way is really close to the >house and not a place that the deer usually travel when they come by. Our >poor dogs already had limited space to roll in the snow and do their >business and then the deer decided to make a stand for that lawn space >... it was a balancing act there for awhile but fortunately nobody got >hurt (and I'm talking about the dogs here!!) ...>>My whole point here being that I think that products like Kelp and >AgriSea-90 are healing nutrients for depleted and contaminated soils and >since we are what we eat starting at the root level is always a good idea.>>>>------------------------------------>>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/>>>Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

I wonder ... I just added a post about sodium bicarbonate from Dr. Mark Sircus

and I wonder if ingesting it or bathing in it would help your uranium levels?

You will see in the article that sodium bicarbonate is being used to clean soil

contaminated with uranium.

Straying a little more off topic here and no response is needed but I have also

read really good things about zeolites removing heavy metals where other things

have failed.

> >>It is often said on this forum that kelp is not desirable for iodine

> >>supplementation and warnings are raised about heavy metals like arsenic

> >>and mercury for those wanting to use it.

> >>

> >>My jury is still out on all that and I lean toward kelp being more

> >>beneficial than detrimental - when the source is of good quality of

> >>course. Though I do agree that kelp alone cannot provide the necessary

> >>quantities of iodine in today's contaminated world. I completely agree

> >>that Lugol's or Iodoral is needed for an adequate iodine protocol and

that

> >>the companion nutrients are essential.

> >>

> >>Yes, even good quality kelp is going to have some elevated amounts of

> >>certain heavy metals but for me the iodine content, phytonutrients and

> >>other components of the kelp balance that all out to a degree that is

more

> >>beneficial than detrimental.

> >>

> >>Kelp contains what, 80 plus trace minerals or so? And other amazing

> >>qualities that I'm not going into today.

> >>

> >>I believe that a quality source of kelp is extremely beneficial as a

> >>soil/crop/pasture/feed amendment and will go a long way to healing damage

> >>done from soil depletion and things like the radiation fallout we

> >>experience (which happens more often than is realized or advertised).

> >>

> >>We have fed our pastured animals free choice kelp for years and they have

> >>thrived on it. They also receive other minerals free choice so the kelp

> >>is not a stand alone item, but more than anything we put out for them

they

> >>consume the kelp at significantly higher rate.

> >>

> >>Feed pastured animals kelp, spread the manure to fortify the pasture. Use

> >>kelp on the lawn for fertilizer or spread atop the garden if you don't

> >>have animals. Compost the manure and lawn clippings to use in the

> >>garden. Give chickens free choice iodine for enriched eggs. And so on ...

> >>

> >>Last year there was an accidental kelp overdose in one part of the lawn

> >>and it grew prolifically of course. This winter when there was 2 feet of

> >>snow on the lawn the deer went to that one spot and dug through the snow

> >>to graze on the lawn below. An interesting observation don't you

> >>think? Freezing temperatures, 2 feet of snow and yet the deer

> >>concentrated on that one area. Which by the way is really close to the

> >>house and not a place that the deer usually travel when they come by. Our

> >>poor dogs already had limited space to roll in the snow and do their

> >>business and then the deer decided to make a stand for that lawn space

> >>... it was a balancing act there for awhile but fortunately nobody got

> >>hurt (and I'm talking about the dogs here!!) ...

> >>

> >>My whole point here being that I think that products like Kelp and

> >>AgriSea-90 are healing nutrients for depleted and contaminated soils and

> >>since we are what we eat starting at the root level is always a good

> >idea.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>------------------------------------

> >>

> >>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

> >>group IodineOT/

> >>

> >>

> >>Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

Links

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> >--A.J. Muste

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Would that we could get major producers to use these products! Perhaps this,

or something like it, is what some of the certified organic folks do use but I

am hoping for the day when this is more the norm ... when it is obvious to the

major food producers that the leftover chemicals from World War II re-labeled as

fertilizer have not fortified our lands but rather caused great illness.

& ... if you do begin using these products I would be

fascinated to hear a before/after story when the time comes.

> >It is often said on this forum that kelp is not desirable for iodine

> >supplementation and warnings are raised about heavy metals like arsenic

> >and mercury for those wanting to use it.

> >

> >My jury is still out on all that and I lean toward kelp being more

> >beneficial than detrimental - when the source is of good quality of

> >course. Though I do agree that kelp alone cannot provide the necessary

> >quantities of iodine in today's contaminated world. I completely agree

> >that Lugol's or Iodoral is needed for an adequate iodine protocol and that

> >the companion nutrients are essential.

> >

> >Yes, even good quality kelp is going to have some elevated amounts of

> >certain heavy metals but for me the iodine content, phytonutrients and

> >other components of the kelp balance that all out to a degree that is more

> >beneficial than detrimental.

> >

> >Kelp contains what, 80 plus trace minerals or so? And other amazing

> >qualities that I'm not going into today.

> >

> >I believe that a quality source of kelp is extremely beneficial as a

> >soil/crop/pasture/feed amendment and will go a long way to healing damage

> >done from soil depletion and things like the radiation fallout we

> >experience (which happens more often than is realized or advertised).

> >

> >We have fed our pastured animals free choice kelp for years and they have

> >thrived on it. They also receive other minerals free choice so the kelp

> >is not a stand alone item, but more than anything we put out for them they

> >consume the kelp at significantly higher rate.

> >

> >Feed pastured animals kelp, spread the manure to fortify the pasture. Use

> >kelp on the lawn for fertilizer or spread atop the garden if you don't

> >have animals. Compost the manure and lawn clippings to use in the

> >garden. Give chickens free choice iodine for enriched eggs. And so on ...

> >

> >Last year there was an accidental kelp overdose in one part of the lawn

> >and it grew prolifically of course. This winter when there was 2 feet of

> >snow on the lawn the deer went to that one spot and dug through the snow

> >to graze on the lawn below. An interesting observation don't you

> >think? Freezing temperatures, 2 feet of snow and yet the deer

> >concentrated on that one area. Which by the way is really close to the

> >house and not a place that the deer usually travel when they come by. Our

> >poor dogs already had limited space to roll in the snow and do their

> >business and then the deer decided to make a stand for that lawn space

> >... it was a balancing act there for awhile but fortunately nobody got

> >hurt (and I'm talking about the dogs here!!) ...

> >

> >My whole point here being that I think that products like Kelp and

> >AgriSea-90 are healing nutrients for depleted and contaminated soils and

> >since we are what we eat starting at the root level is always a good idea.

> >

> >

> >

> >------------------------------------

> >

> >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

> >group IodineOT/

> >

> >

> >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

You're welcome for the info!

I haven't ever used SeaAgri-90 so can't be of much help there. I've been

looking into it for awhile though and it just seemed timely to share it with

the group. I'm sure the company has really good support info. The books that

they reference look very interesting and the Acres USA website that they

reference would be of interest to you. www.acresusa.com

Perhaps or will add the product and application instructions

to our group files for future reference.

Like I have been using Kelp (the kind we buy is ascophyllum nodosum) for

years for the critters, etc... and it took me a long time to get around to

directly using iodine products like Lugol's or Iodoral for our consumption.

When you know better you do better, right? :-)

>

> >

> >

> > It is often said on this forum that kelp is not desirable for iodine

> > supplementation and warnings are raised about heavy metals like arsenic and

> > mercury for those wanting to use it.

> >

> > My jury is still out on all that and I lean toward kelp being more

> > beneficial than detrimental - when the source is of good quality of course.

> > Though I do agree that kelp alone cannot provide the necessary quantities of

> > iodine in today's contaminated world. I completely agree that Lugol's or

> > Iodoral is needed for an adequate iodine protocol and that the companion

> > nutrients are essential.

> >

> > Yes, even good quality kelp is going to have some elevated amounts of

> > certain heavy metals but for me the iodine content, phytonutrients and other

> > components of the kelp balance that all out to a degree that is more

> > beneficial than detrimental.

> >

> > Kelp contains what, 80 plus trace minerals or so? And other amazing

> > qualities that I'm not going into today.

> >

> > I believe that a quality source of kelp is extremely beneficial as a

> > soil/crop/pasture/feed amendment and will go a long way to healing damage

> > done from soil depletion and things like the radiation fallout we experience

> > (which happens more often than is realized or advertised).

> >

> > We have fed our pastured animals free choice kelp for years and they have

> > thrived on it. They also receive other minerals free choice so the kelp is

> > not a stand alone item, but more than anything we put out for them they

> > consume the kelp at significantly higher rate.

> >

> > Feed pastured animals kelp, spread the manure to fortify the pasture. Use

> > kelp on the lawn for fertilizer or spread atop the garden if you don't have

> > animals. Compost the manure and lawn clippings to use in the garden. Give

> > chickens free choice iodine for enriched eggs. And so on ...

> >

> > Last year there was an accidental kelp overdose in one part of the lawn and

> > it grew prolifically of course. This winter when there was 2 feet of snow on

> > the lawn the deer went to that one spot and dug through the snow to graze on

> > the lawn below. An interesting observation don't you think? Freezing

> > temperatures, 2 feet of snow and yet the deer concentrated on that one area.

> > Which by the way is really close to the house and not a place that the deer

> > usually travel when they come by. Our poor dogs already had limited space to

> > roll in the snow and do their business and then the deer decided to make a

> > stand for that lawn space ... it was a balancing act there for awhile but

> > fortunately nobody got hurt (and I'm talking about the dogs here!!) ...

> >

> > My whole point here being that I think that products like Kelp and

> > AgriSea-90 are healing nutrients for depleted and contaminated soils and

> > since we are what we eat starting at the root level is always a good idea.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Ariel Monserrat

> Publisher & Managing Editor

> Green Egg zine

> www.greeneggzine.com

>