Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Hi Golda, Were you taking the companion nutrients ( Vitamin C, Selenium, Magnesium, unrefined Celtic Sea Salt) the amounts of these you need are listed in the New Member doc. you were sent when you joined, or go to the page and look under FILES and the click on New Member doc. read first. #3 tells you about the supporting nutrients. If you were not taking them, that could be why you felt so bad, the salt especially helps transport the toxic halides out of our system. Seaweed is not a good source for iodine as it tends to be contaminated with arsenic and other heavy metals. Did you try the salt loading protocol when you felt so bad? That is most helpful. You will find that protocol as #7 in the New Member Document. I personally don't take extra calcium as I have read too many disparaging things about it, so I can't answer your question about that. Kathleen iodine for fluoride I landed in third stage kidney disease because of fluoride. As soon as I got off of fluoridated water and green and black teas, my GFR shot right back up to the normal range. But I want to get fluoride out of my body and found out that iodine is a good detoxifier for getting fluoride out of my body. Using lugol's, I gradually increased my dose from one drop daily to 4 drops. At that point I got so, so sick. Now anytime I try to take any level of iodine, the same thing happens.I suspect that it works quite well at uprooting the fluoride but that the fluoride swimming around my system is what is actually causing the abdominal pain, considerable nausea, fatigue and mental zone out. I tried taking organic powdered seaweed. As long as I took about 1/2 capsule of it once daily, I felt somewhat okay - but one capsule daily was over the top.I want to get this poison out of my body!! My new naturopath recommends calcium carbonate to neutralize my system. I'm wondering if calcium carbonate binds with fluoride to get it out of the system.Any recommendations or thoughts? Golda Starrwww.FluorideDetective.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Great thought; if there was something that would bind to the halides, like the way chelation can carry toxic metals (EDTA.DMSA, etc).Only thing I can think of would be activated charcoal, and that acts by soaking up crap in the gut, not sure if it would soak up these halides.Calcium carbonate MAY act in a similar fashion, I just don't know enough.If anyone knows of anything, that would be great!!I would THINK these toxic halides being dumped into our systems would inevitably involve the liver, so taking milk thistle, and other supplements like inositol and choline might be a good idea. In your situation, also wondering if you may need to start at an even lower starting dose, like 1/2, 1/4 or 1/8 drop. Obviously, you'd have to find a different way to measure.Dilute first, then use 1 drop of the diluted version? Just a thought,....Jim > > I landed in third stage kidney disease because of fluoride. As soon as I got off of fluoridated water and green and black teas, my GFR shot right back up to the normal range. But I want to get fluoride out of my body and found out that iodine is a good detoxifier for getting fluoride out of my body. Using lugol's, I gradually increased my dose from one drop daily to 4 drops. At that point I got so, so sick. Now anytime I try to take any level of iodine, the same thing happens. > > I suspect that it works quite well at uprooting the fluoride but that the fluoride swimming around my system is what is actually causing the abdominal pain, considerable nausea, fatigue and mental zone out. I tried taking organic powdered seaweed. As long as I took about 1/2 capsule of it once daily, I felt somewhat okay - but one capsule daily was over the top. > > I want to get this poison out of my body!! My new naturopath recommends calcium carbonate to neutralize my system. I'm wondering if calcium carbonate binds with fluoride to get it out of the system. > > Any recommendations or thoughts? > > Golda Starr > www.FluorideDetective.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 http://tynanfamily.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/detoxing-from-fluoride-part-ii/Here's what I found with a search....I think you should search "detoxing from fluoride" or "detoxing fluoride"....Joan Great thought; if there was something that would bind to the halides, like the way chelation can carry toxic metals (EDTA.DMSA, etc).Only thing I can think of would be activated charcoal, and that acts by soaking up crap in the gut, not sure if it would soak up these halides.Calcium carbonate MAY act in a similar fashion, I just don't know enough.If anyone knows of anything, that would be great!!I would THINK these toxic halides being dumped into our systems would inevitably involve the liver, so taking milk thistle, and other supplements like inositol and choline might be a good idea. In your situation, also wondering if you may need to start at an even lower starting dose, like 1/2, 1/4 or 1/8 drop. Obviously, you'd have to find a different way to measure.Dilute first, then use 1 drop of the diluted version? Just a thought,....Jim > > I landed in third stage kidney disease because of fluoride. As soon as I got off of fluoridated water and green and black teas, my GFR shot right back up to the normal range. But I want to get fluoride out of my body and found out that iodine is a good detoxifier for getting fluoride out of my body. Using lugol's, I gradually increased my dose from one drop daily to 4 drops. At that point I got so, so sick. Now anytime I try to take any level of iodine, the same thing happens. > > I want to get this poison out of my body!! My new naturopath recommends calcium carbonate to neutralize my system. I'm wondering if calcium carbonate binds with fluoride to get it out of the system. > > Any recommendations or thoughts? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Hi Golda,You might need to pay attention to your detox pathways, they might be already overwhelmed if you feel sick with such little amount of iodine and you know there is fluoride. Help out your liver and organs and you'll be able to handle more iodine. Yes, iodine will displace halides out, but in the time being they're going around in cycles in your body making you feel sick (detox). Do you have the companion nutrients? These are very important for assisting detox as well to use properly iodine in the body.From: gsconnelly <goldastarr@...>iodine Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 11:19:04 AMSubject: iodine for fluoride I landed in third stage kidney disease because of fluoride. As soon as I got off of fluoridated water and green and black teas, my GFR shot right back up to the normal range. But I want to get fluoride out of my body and found out that iodine is a good detoxifier for getting fluoride out of my body. Using lugol's, I gradually increased my dose from one drop daily to 4 drops. At that point I got so, so sick. Now anytime I try to take any level of iodine, the same thing happens. I suspect that it works quite well at uprooting the fluoride but that the fluoride swimming around my system is what is actually causing the abdominal pain, considerable nausea, fatigue and mental zone out. I tried taking organic powdered seaweed. As long as I took about 1/2 capsule of it once daily, I felt somewhat okay - but one capsule daily was over the top. I want to get this poison out of my body!! My new naturopath recommends calcium carbonate to neutralize my system. I'm wondering if calcium carbonate binds with fluoride to get it out of the system. Any recommendations or thoughts? Golda Starr www.FluorideDetective.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Hi Golda,I started with sick liver which impacted my kidneys. Liver and kidneys are partners. So these things worked to help heal. I was able to do 50mg  of iodine from the start though so you may have to do some pulse dosing. So few days on iodine and few days on supplements but no iodine and repeat so body catches up with detox. B complex twice a day seems to be essential to keeping symptoms of detox away for me. Things that seemed to help me. Bentonite to clear the colon- 5-10 times a season at 1T each night and glass of water. ALA one per day. I took 2 selenium each day. Real Salt -half tsp to tsp per day. Lemon in water in am first thing. My body craved that and apparently very nuetralizing. I was on chlorella for the HCG diet. I ate cilantro every time had head ache which were common for me but seem better now. NAC, DIM, DMG and TMG all seem to help detox. www.beyond-a-century.com sells those. I use the strontium for bone health and buffered C from there too. They sell powders without capsules so last longer than pills but bit more hassle.  DIM, calcium-d-glucarate are important if you have an estrogen based cancer or estrogen shaped body- more tummy or apple shaped or big breasted for example whether female or male. Also cutting down on xenoestrogens like some packaged  non organic foods and water that was in hot plastic bottles which can 50 times as much toxins. Google would have more information on that. My liver enzymes cut in half following 's suggestion of using the metagenics ultraclear ph shake which I did at 5pm as mini fast after dinner and just water for rest of night. I also took their advaclear capsules as part of that routine for 3 weeks in a row. My chiropractor said doing that consistently in a row would be much more effective than doing one day a week over time. It would go to a deeper level. My liver enzymes kept improving after that and normalized except one test. I also lost 85 pounds which helps the liver too.It is hard to have fatty liver disease without much fat left. My kidney enzymes normalized too. Four years ago when my liver was in crisis from a gallstone  stuck in common bile duct my tests were in thousands and next to needing a  transplan but had 2 life saving surgeries in same day in 2 cities insteadt. I never want to be that sick again. The surgeon told me this chronic low stuff is actually worse for the liver than a crisis so I have worked to end the chronic stuff.  My chiropractor told me that by the time the blood tests hit high that indicated that 30% damage has already happened to your organ. Luckily liver is quickest to regenerate and repair. My liver is still busy doing that as that one test indicates but is only up by 2 instead of thousands. Hope this helps you to heal. You might consider adding one thing at a time to see what your body tolerates. Spacing the changes a week apart should help you to figure things out. Pam On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Magallanes <pataviva@...> wrote:  Hi Golda,You might need to pay attention to your detox pathways, they might be already overwhelmed if you feel sick with such little amount of iodine and you know there is fluoride. Help out your liver and organs and you'll be able to handle more iodine. Yes, iodine will displace halides out, but in the time being they're going around in cycles in your body making you feel sick (detox). Do you have the companion nutrients? These are very important for assisting detox as well to use properly iodine in the body. From: gsconnelly <goldastarr@...>iodine Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 11:19:04 AMSubject: iodine for fluoride  I landed in third stage kidney disease because of fluoride. As soon as I got off of fluoridated water and green and black teas, my GFR shot right back up to the normal range. But I want to get fluoride out of my body and found out that iodine is a good detoxifier for getting fluoride out of my body. Using lugol's, I gradually increased my dose from one drop daily to 4 drops. At that point I got so, so sick. Now anytime I try to take any level of iodine, the same thing happens. I suspect that it works quite well at uprooting the fluoride but that the fluoride swimming around my system is what is actually causing the abdominal pain, considerable nausea, fatigue and mental zone out. I tried taking organic powdered seaweed. As long as I took about 1/2 capsule of it once daily, I felt somewhat okay - but one capsule daily was over the top. I want to get this poison out of my body!! My new naturopath recommends calcium carbonate to neutralize my system. I'm wondering if calcium carbonate binds with fluoride to get it out of the system. Any recommendations or thoughts? Golda Starr www.FluorideDetective.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 From the New Member Document in the Files: Why does this help? Salt - containing chloride - binds to the bromide in the blood stream and carries it out through the kidneys. > > > > I landed in third stage kidney disease because of fluoride. As soon as I got off of fluoridated water and green and black teas, my GFR shot right back up to the normal range. But I want to get fluoride out of my body and found out that iodine is a good detoxifier for getting fluoride out of my body. Using lugol's, I gradually increased my dose from one drop daily to 4 drops. At that point I got so, so sick. Now anytime I try to take any level of iodine, the same thing happens. > > > > I suspect that it works quite well at uprooting the fluoride but that the fluoride swimming around my system is what is actually causing the abdominal pain, considerable nausea, fatigue and mental zone out. I tried taking organic powdered seaweed. As long as I took about 1/2 capsule of it once daily, I felt somewhat okay - but one capsule daily was over the top. > > > > I want to get this poison out of my body!! My new naturopath recommends calcium carbonate to neutralize my system. I'm wondering if calcium carbonate binds with fluoride to get it out of the system. > > > > Any recommendations or thoughts? > > > > Golda Starr > > www.FluorideDetective.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Enough iodine will displace the fluoride. Vit C and Epsom salts baths will help also, along with the salt in the iodine protocol. http://iodine4health.com/special/halogens/abraham_halogens.htm Linn > > > > > > I landed in third stage kidney disease because of fluoride. As soon as I got off of fluoridated water and green and black teas, my GFR shot right back up to the normal range. But I want to get fluoride out of my body and found out that iodine is a good detoxifier for getting fluoride out of my body. Using lugol's, I gradually increased my dose from one drop daily to 4 drops. At that point I got so, so sick. Now anytime I try to take any level of iodine, the same thing happens. > > > > > > > > I want to get this poison out of my body!! My new naturopath recommends calcium carbonate to neutralize my system. I'm wondering if calcium carbonate binds with fluoride to get it out of the system. > > > > > > Any recommendations or thoughts? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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