Dose Amounts for radioactive fallout, drop equivalents

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Since we know that iodine is taken up by tissues all over the body, and not just

by the thyroid, wouldn't it make sense to dose with Lugols or Iodoral? Taking

iodide alone, as per the official recommendations, would protect the thyroid but

not the tissues that taking iodine. I do not know if the fallout contains the

iodine form or if the iodide from the fallout would be partly converted to

iodine in the body. Perhaps Dr. Brownstein will address these issues in his blog

post.

Bill

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> > >It is looking like a meltdown is unavoidable possibly more than one.

> > >I am in Vancouver--directly in the prevailing winds from Japan. They get

> > >here in 36 hours.

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> > >I have phoned two major drugstores in Canada and they haven't even heard

> > >of potassium iodide and I have no idea where to get it.

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> > >I have regular iodine--is that usable in an emergency? I can get Lugol's

> > >but not till tomorrow.

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> > >How much of over the counter iodine (2.5%)would I use?

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> > >In our family we have a new born (being nursed) a two year old and a four

> > >year old one teen--several young adults and adults aged from 30 to 64.

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> > >Can someone please give me some info on this?

> > >

> > >Thank you

> > >Bea

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I started on 120 mg potassium iodide last Oct, never had a problem. Kids in Japan take inabout 35 mg/day in their diet and some even more than that. It's very hard to overdose on it, you'dhave to drink a whole bottle of it to cause much harm.

SSKI is what is important, if you feel better going that route.ArielOn Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:49 AM, <fontana_christine_elise@...> wrote:

 

These doses are very high - won't this cause a major detox reaction? For instance, my son is only taking 1 drop of lugol's (2%) per day, and according to what you say I would need to increase his dose to 35 drops - wouldn't that for certain cause major problems?

What about people who've never even used any Iodine supp.? If you start someone off on such a huge dose couldn't this be very dangerous?

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> >

> >It is looking like a meltdown is unavoidable possibly more than one.

> >I am in Vancouver--directly in the prevailing winds from Japan. They get

> >here in 36 hours.

> >

> >I have phoned two major drugstores in Canada and they haven't even heard

> >of potassium iodide and I have no idea where to get it.

> >

> >I have regular iodine--is that usable in an emergency? I can get Lugol's

> >but not till tomorrow.

> >

> >How much of over the counter iodine (2.5%)would I use?

> >

> >In our family we have a new born (being nursed) a two year old and a four

> >year old one teen--several young adults and adults aged from 30 to 64.

> >

> >Can someone please give me some info on this?

> >

> >Thank you

> >Bea

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> --A.J. Muste

>

-- Ariel MonserratPublisher & Managing EditorGreen Egg zinewww.greeneggzine.com

[Guest guest]

Yes it's ok to just use potassium iodide. I was giving all these figures

for people who don't have it or don't have access.

But people should keep up their usual iodine supplementation protocol and

add the potassium iodide on top of it.

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At 06:49 AM 3/12/2011, you wrote:

> thanks for posting this. Is it OK to just use the potassium

>iodide? Or better to use Lugol's?

>Ariel

>

>On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:41 AM, Baker

><<mailto:vbaker@...>vbaker@...> wrote:

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>I'm amending my post to include how many drops of Lugol's is equivalent to

>the doses recommended (see below). These drop equivalents are based on the

>following:

>2% Lugol's contains 2.5mg iodine per vertical drop

>5% Lugol's contains 6.25mg iodine per vertical drop

>

>If using Iodoral tablets, split the tablets to approximate the dose.

>

>These numbers are approximate, so err on the plus side when dosing.

>

>The dosage amounts recommended by the CDC are based on taking pure

>potassium iodide, which the thyroid uses directly. So in order to get the

>recommended amounts of potassium iodide, a person needs to take 1/3 more of

>Lugol's/Iodoral.

>

>I posted the recommended dosages earlier. Here I will convert them for use

>with Lugol's/Iodoral. If I've done the math wrong, someone will let me

>know asap.

>

>Adults: dose = 130mg KI,

>so Lugol's/Iodoral is 173mg.

>Lugol's 2% is 70 drops. Lugol's 5% is 28 drops.

>Women who are breastfeeding take adult dose.

>Children between 3 and 18 years of age: dose = 65mg KI,

>so Lugol's/Iodoral is 87mg

>Lugol's 2% is 35 drops. Lugol's 5% is 14 drops.

>Children who are 150 pounds or over should take the adult dose

>regardless of age.

>Infants and children between 1 month and 3 years of age: dose = 32mg KI,

>so Lugol's/Iodoral is 43mg

>Lugol's 2% is 17 drops. Lugol's 5% is 7 drops.

>This dose is for nursing and non-nursing infants/children

>Newborns from birth to 1 month of age: dose = 16mg KI,

>so Lugol's Iodoral is 22mg.

>Lugol's 2% is 8 drops. Lugol's 5% is 4 drops.

>This dose is for both nursing and non-nursing newborn infants.

>

>Take one dose every 24 hours until the danger is past.

>

>The CDC says to avoid repeat dosing for pregnant and breastfeeding women

>and newborn infants, but that is because they are iodine-phobic. We

>discuss this all the time on this list. Other sources say all individuals

>should get the appropriate sized dose once every 24 hours until the danger

>is past.

>

>Don't take Betadine or tincture of iodine orally. Only take Lugol's or

>Iodoral or Potassium Iodide.

>

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>At 11:47 PM 3/11/2011, you wrote:

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> >It is looking like a meltdown is unavoidable possibly more than one.

> >I am in Vancouver--directly in the prevailing winds from Japan. They get

> >here in 36 hours.

> >

> >I have phoned two major drugstores in Canada and they haven't even heard

> >of potassium iodide and I have no idea where to get it.

> >

> >I have regular iodine--is that usable in an emergency? I can get Lugol's

> >but not till tomorrow.

> >

> >How much of over the counter iodine (2.5%)would I use?

> >

> >In our family we have a new born (being nursed) a two year old and a four

> >year old one teen--several young adults and adults aged from 30 to 64.

> >

> >Can someone please give me some info on this?

> >

> >Thank you

> >Bea

> >

> >

> >

>

>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

>--A.J. Muste

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It's not " dangerous " ... detox reactions are not life threatening, merely

uncomfortable. " Dangerous " is the lie about iodine. What is actually

dangerous in everyday life is not having iodine in the diet.

What is very truly dangerous in the light of this nuclear accident is not

protecting the thyroid with the iodine.

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At 09:49 AM 3/12/2011, you wrote:

>These doses are very high - won't this cause a major detox reaction? For

>instance, my son is only taking 1 drop of lugol's (2%) per day, and

>according to what you say I would need to increase his dose to 35 drops -

>wouldn't that for certain cause major problems?

>

>What about people who've never even used any Iodine supp.? If you start

>someone off on such a huge dose couldn't this be very dangerous?

>

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uclear-reactor-meltdown/>http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-da\

nger-if-japan-nuclear-reactor-meltdown/

> > >

> > >It is looking like a meltdown is unavoidable possibly more than one.

> > >I am in Vancouver--directly in the prevailing winds from Japan. They get

> > >here in 36 hours.

> > >

> > >I have phoned two major drugstores in Canada and they haven't even heard

> > >of potassium iodide and I have no idea where to get it.

> > >

> > >I have regular iodine--is that usable in an emergency? I can get Lugol's

> > >but not till tomorrow.

> > >

> > >How much of over the counter iodine (2.5%)would I use?

> > >

> > >In our family we have a new born (being nursed) a two year old and a four

> > >year old one teen--several young adults and adults aged from 30 to 64.

> > >

> > >Can someone please give me some info on this?

> > >

> > >Thank you

> > >Bea

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> > --A.J. Muste

> >

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[Guest guest]

In his book, Dr. B states that we now know that iodide doesn't convert to iodine in the body.ope this helps. IMHO, you want to do as says, which is to continue with Lugol's/Iodoral, as well as take the sski - the SSKI protects the thyroid and the iodine takes care of the rest of the body.

ArielOn Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:09 AM, shimonwimon <@...> wrote:

 

Since we know that iodine is taken up by tissues all over the body, and not just by the thyroid, wouldn't it make sense to dose with Lugols or Iodoral? Taking iodide alone, as per the official recommendations, would protect the thyroid but not the tissues that taking iodine. I do not know if the fallout contains the iodine form or if the iodide from the fallout would be partly converted to iodine in the body. Perhaps Dr. Brownstein will address these issues in his blog post.

Bill

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> > http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-nuclear-reactor-meltdown/

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> > >It is looking like a meltdown is unavoidable possibly more than one.

> > >I am in Vancouver--directly in the prevailing winds from Japan. They get

> > >here in 36 hours.

> > >

> > >I have phoned two major drugstores in Canada and they haven't even heard

> > >of potassium iodide and I have no idea where to get it.

> > >

> > >I have regular iodine--is that usable in an emergency? I can get Lugol's

> > >but not till tomorrow.

> > >

> > >How much of over the counter iodine (2.5%)would I use?

> > >

> > >In our family we have a new born (being nursed) a two year old and a four

> > >year old one teen--several young adults and adults aged from 30 to 64.

> > >

> > >Can someone please give me some info on this?

> > >

> > >Thank you

> > >Bea

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> > --A.J. Muste

> >

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> Publisher & Managing Editor

> Green Egg zine

> www.greeneggzine.com

>

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[Guest guest]

A big amen to this. If there is a concern then add increased amounts of Vit C, Mag, Unrefined salt and a liver detox like Milk Thistle for your children. I am wondering how long the risk will be there. I suspect a long time.

Buist, ND

Re: Re: Dose Amounts for radioactive fallout, drop equivalents

It's not "dangerous"... detox reactions are not life threatening, merely uncomfortable. "Dangerous" is the lie about iodine. What is actually dangerous in everyday life is not having iodine in the diet.What is very truly dangerous in the light of this nuclear accident is not protecting the thyroid with the iodine.--At 09:49 AM 3/12/2011, you wrote:>These doses are very high - won't this cause a major detox reaction? For >instance, my son is only taking 1 drop of lugol's (2%) per day, and >according to what you say I would need to increase his dose to 35 drops - >wouldn't that for certain cause major problems?>>What about people who've never even used any Iodine supp.? If you start >someone off on such a huge dose couldn't this be very dangerous?>>>>>>> >> >> > ><http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-n > uclear-reactor-meltdown/>http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-nuclear-reactor-meltdown/> > >> > >It is looking like a meltdown is unavoidable possibly more than one.> > >I am in Vancouver--directly in the prevailing winds from Japan. They get> > >here in 36 hours.> > >> > >I have phoned two major drugstores in Canada and they haven't even heard> > >of potassium iodide and I have no idea where to get it.> > >> > >I have regular iodine--is that usable in an emergency? I can get Lugol's> > >but not till tomorrow.> > >> > >How much of over the counter iodine (2.5%)would I use?> > >> > >In our family we have a new born (being nursed) a two year old and a four> > >year old one teen--several young adults and adults aged from 30 to 64.> > >> > >Can someone please give me some info on this?> > >> > >Thank you> > >Bea> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~> > --A.J. Muste> >>>>>>------------------------------------>>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/>>>Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

- you might also look up detox from radiation. I found a site about

magnetic clay baths and I think I am going to give them a go as well as the

Iodoral. Good luck to you and your family.

~~~Barb

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eactor-meltdown/>http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-\

japan-nuclear-reactor-meltdown/

> > >

> > >It is looking like a meltdown is unavoidable possibly more than one.

> > >I am in Vancouver--directly in the prevailing winds from Japan. They get

> > >here in 36 hours.

> > >

> > >I have phoned two major drugstores in Canada and they haven't even heard

> > >of potassium iodide and I have no idea where to get it.

> > >

> > >I have regular iodine--is that usable in an emergency? I can get Lugol's

> > >but not till tomorrow.

> > >

> > >How much of over the counter iodine (2.5%)would I use?

> > >

> > >In our family we have a new born (being nursed) a two year old and a four

> > >year old one teen--several young adults and adults aged from 30 to 64.

> > >

> > >Can someone please give me some info on this?

> > >

> > >Thank you

> > >Bea

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> > --A.J. Muste

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I'm amending my post to include how many drops of Lugol's is equivalent to

the doses recommended (see below). These drop equivalents are based on the

following:

2% Lugol's contains 2.5mg iodine per vertical drop

5% Lugol's contains 6.25mg iodine per vertical drop

If using Iodoral tablets, split the tablets to approximate the dose.

These numbers are approximate, so err on the plus side when dosing.

The dosage amounts recommended by the CDC are based on taking pure

potassium iodide, which the thyroid uses directly. So in order to get the

recommended amounts of potassium iodide, a person needs to take 1/3 more of

Lugol's/Iodoral.

I posted the recommended dosages earlier. Here I will convert them for use

with Lugol's/Iodoral. If I've done the math wrong, someone will let me

know asap.

Adults: dose = 130mg KI,

so Lugol's/Iodoral is 173mg.

Lugol's 2% is 70 drops. Lugol's 5% is 28 drops.

Women who are breastfeeding take adult dose.

Children between 3 and 18 years of age: dose = 65mg KI,

so Lugol's/Iodoral is 87mg

Lugol's 2% is 35 drops. Lugol's 5% is 14 drops.

Children who are 150 pounds or over should take the adult dose

regardless of age.

Infants and children between 1 month and 3 years of age: dose = 32mg KI,

so Lugol's/Iodoral is 43mg

Lugol's 2% is 17 drops. Lugol's 5% is 7 drops.

This dose is for nursing and non-nursing infants/children

Newborns from birth to 1 month of age: dose = 16mg KI,

so Lugol's Iodoral is 22mg.

Lugol's 2% is 8 drops. Lugol's 5% is 4 drops.

This dose is for both nursing and non-nursing newborn infants.

Take one dose every 24 hours until the danger is past.

The CDC says to avoid repeat dosing for pregnant and breastfeeding women

and newborn infants, but that is because they are iodine-phobic. We

discuss this all the time on this list. Other sources say all individuals

should get the appropriate sized dose once every 24 hours until the danger

is past.

Don't take Betadine or tincture of iodine orally. Only take Lugol's or

Iodoral or Potassium Iodide.

--

At 11:47 PM 3/11/2011, you wrote:

><http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-nuclear-r\

eactor-meltdown/>http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-\

japan-nuclear-reactor-meltdown/

>

>It is looking like a meltdown is unavoidable possibly more than one.

>I am in Vancouver--directly in the prevailing winds from Japan. They get

>here in 36 hours.

>

>I have phoned two major drugstores in Canada and they haven't even heard

>of potassium iodide and I have no idea where to get it.

>

>I have regular iodine--is that usable in an emergency? I can get Lugol's

>but not till tomorrow.

>

>How much of over the counter iodine (2.5%)would I use?

>

>In our family we have a new born (being nursed) a two year old and a four

>year old one teen--several young adults and adults aged from 30 to 64.

>

>Can someone please give me some info on this?

>

>Thank you

>Bea

>

>

>

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

Based on the half-life of radioactive iodine, the risk to thyroids will be

relatively short.

Pamela

>

> A big amen to this. If there is a concern then add increased amounts of Vit

C, Mag, Unrefined salt and a liver detox like Milk Thistle for your children. I

am wondering how long the risk will be there. I suspect a long time.

>

> Buist, ND

[Guest guest]

I -131 has a half life of 8 days. It will depend on what we start at (level wise) to know how bad it will be for how long.

Buist, ND

Re: Dose Amounts for radioactive fallout, drop equivalents

Based on the half-life of radioactive iodine, the risk to thyroids will be relatively short.Pamela>> A big amen to this. If there is a concern then add increased amounts of Vit C, Mag, Unrefined salt and a liver detox like Milk Thistle for your children. I am wondering how long the risk will be there. I suspect a long time. > > Buist, ND

[Guest guest]

Still, if you are recommending to friends & relatives who are not iodine savvy to take a large dose, it would be good to emphasize companion nutrients, too, & explain about detox. If people feel bad when they try something your recommend, it undermines their trust & confidence. A lot of times, people look at me like I have lost my mind, when I recommend alternative options to them. If I managed to convince anybody, I wouldn't want to make them feel sick if I could help it.AnneOn Mar 12, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Baker wrote: It's not "dangerous"... detox reactions are not life threatening, merely uncomfortable. "Dangerous" is the lie about iodine. What is actually dangerous in everyday life is not having iodine in the diet. What is very truly dangerous in the light of this nuclear accident is not protecting the thyroid with the iodine. -- At 09:49 AM 3/12/2011, you wrote: >These doses are very high - won't this cause a major detox reaction? For >instance, my son is only taking 1 drop of lugol's (2%) per day, and >according to what you say I would need to increase his dose to 35 drops - >wouldn't that for certain cause major problems? > >What about people who've never even used any Iodine supp.? If you start >someone off on such a huge dose couldn't this be very dangerous? > > > > > > > > > > > > ><http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-n > uclear-reactor-meltdown/>http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-nuclear-reactor-meltdown/ > > > > > >It is looking like a meltdown is unavoidable possibly more than one. > > >I am in Vancouver--directly in the prevailing winds from Japan. They get > > >here in 36 hours. > > > > > >I have phoned two major drugstores in Canada and they haven't even heard > > >of potassium iodide and I have no idea where to get it. > > > > > >I have regular iodine--is that usable in an emergency? I can get Lugol's > > >but not till tomorrow. > > > > > >How much of over the counter iodine (2.5%)would I use? > > > > > >In our family we have a new born (being nursed) a two year old and a four > > >year old one teen--several young adults and adults aged from 30 to 64. > > > > > >Can someone please give me some info on this? > > > > > >Thank you > > >Bea > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > > --A.J. Muste > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/ > > >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

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Permission to cross-post? -AngieOn Mar 12, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Baker wrote: I'm amending my post to include how many drops of Lugol's is equivalent to the doses recommended (see below). These drop equivalents are based on the following: 2% Lugol's contains 2.5mg iodine per vertical drop 5% Lugol's contains 6.25mg iodine per vertical drop If using Iodoral tablets, split the tablets to approximate the dose. These numbers are approximate, so err on the plus side when dosing. The dosage amounts recommended by the CDC are based on taking pure potassium iodide, which the thyroid uses directly. So in order to get the recommended amounts of potassium iodide, a person needs to take 1/3 more of Lugol's/Iodoral. I posted the recommended dosages earlier. Here I will convert them for use with Lugol's/Iodoral. If I've done the math wrong, someone will let me know asap. Adults: dose = 130mg KI, so Lugol's/Iodoral is 173mg. Lugol's 2% is 70 drops. Lugol's 5% is 28 drops. Women who are breastfeeding take adult dose. Children between 3 and 18 years of age: dose = 65mg KI, so Lugol's/Iodoral is 87mg Lugol's 2% is 35 drops. Lugol's 5% is 14 drops. Children who are 150 pounds or over should take the adult dose regardless of age. Infants and children between 1 month and 3 years of age: dose = 32mg KI, so Lugol's/Iodoral is 43mg Lugol's 2% is 17 drops. Lugol's 5% is 7 drops. This dose is for nursing and non-nursing infants/children Newborns from birth to 1 month of age: dose = 16mg KI, so Lugol's Iodoral is 22mg. Lugol's 2% is 8 drops. Lugol's 5% is 4 drops. This dose is for both nursing and non-nursing newborn infants. Take one dose every 24 hours until the danger is past. The CDC says to avoid repeat dosing for pregnant and breastfeeding women and newborn infants, but that is because they are iodine-phobic. We discuss this all the time on this list. Other sources say all individuals should get the appropriate sized dose once every 24 hours until the danger is past. Don't take Betadine or tincture of iodine orally. Only take Lugol's or Iodoral or Potassium Iodide. -- At 11:47 PM 3/11/2011, you wrote: ><http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-nuclear-reactor-meltdown/>http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-nuclear-reactor-meltdown/ > >It is looking like a meltdown is unavoidable possibly more than one. >I am in Vancouver--directly in the prevailing winds from Japan. They get >here in 36 hours. > >I have phoned two major drugstores in Canada and they haven't even heard >of potassium iodide and I have no idea where to get it. > >I have regular iodine--is that usable in an emergency? I can get Lugol's >but not till tomorrow. > >How much of over the counter iodine (2.5%)would I use? > >In our family we have a new born (being nursed) a two year old and a four >year old one teen--several young adults and adults aged from 30 to 64. > >Can someone please give me some info on this? > >Thank you >Bea > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste "Don't try anything stupid!" "I don't have to try!"

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I take one drop alternate day. I supplement it with transdermal patch. If I increase to 2 drops daily of Lugol's then I sure get boils on skin. I have seen this many times.--------------Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@...- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education; Life Member, Nutrion Soc. India.- Member ISOM; Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med School, USA);- www.RegainMentalHealth.com/ www.ejcbs.com--- On Sat, 3/12/11, Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> wrote:From: Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...>Subject: Re: Re: Dose Amounts for radioactive fallout, drop equivalentsiodine Date: Saturday, March 12, 2011, 9:40 PM

I started on 120 mg potassium iodide last Oct, never had a problem. Kids in Japan take inabout 35 mg/day in their diet and some even more than that. It's very hard to overdose on it, you'dhave to drink a whole bottle of it to cause much harm.

SSKI is what is important, if you feel better going that route.ArielOn Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:49 AM, <fontana_christine_elise@...> wrote:

These doses are very high - won't this cause a major detox reaction? For instance, my son is only taking 1 drop of lugol's (2%) per day, and according to what you say I would need to increase his dose to 35 drops - wouldn't that for certain cause major problems?

What about people who've never even used any Iodine supp.? If you start someone off on such a huge dose couldn't this be very dangerous?

>

>

> ><http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-nuclear-reactor-meltdown/>http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-nuclear-reactor-meltdown/

> >

> >It is looking like a meltdown is unavoidable possibly more than one.

> >I am in Vancouver--directly in the prevailing winds from Japan. They get

> >here in 36 hours.

> >

> >I have phoned two major drugstores in Canada and they haven't even heard

> >of potassium iodide and I have no idea where to get it.

> >

> >I have regular iodine--is that usable in an emergency? I can get Lugol's

> >but not till tomorrow.

> >

> >How much of over the counter iodine (2.5%)would I use?

> >

> >In our family we have a new born (being nursed) a two year old and a four

> >year old one teen--several young adults and adults aged from 30 to 64.

> >

> >Can someone please give me some info on this?

> >

> >Thank you

> >Bea

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> --A.J. Muste

>

-- Ariel MonserratPublisher & Managing EditorGreen Egg zinewww.greeneggzine.com

[Guest guest]

good point, Anne. I would also add that SSKI usually has little to no detox symptoms. I used it for 3 months before coming here to this list and never had one problem - I also was takinf 120 mg every day.Ariel

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Anne Seals <anneseals@...> wrote:

 

Still, if you are recommending to friends & relatives who are not iodine savvy to take a large dose, it would be good to emphasize companion nutrients, too, & explain about detox. If people feel bad when they try something your recommend, it undermines their trust & confidence. 

A lot of times, people look at me like I have lost my mind, when I recommend alternative options to them. If I managed to convince anybody, I wouldn't want to make them feel sick if I could help it.

AnneOn Mar 12, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Baker wrote:   It's not " dangerous " ... detox reactions are not life threatening, merely

uncomfortable. " Dangerous " is the lie about iodine. What is actually dangerous in everyday life is not having iodine in the diet. What is very truly dangerous in the light of this nuclear accident is not

protecting the thyroid with the iodine. -- At 09:49 AM 3/12/2011, you wrote: >These doses are very high - won't this cause a major detox reaction? For >instance, my son is only taking 1 drop of lugol's (2%) per day, and

>according to what you say I would need to increase his dose to 35 drops - >wouldn't that for certain cause major problems? > >What about people who've never even used any Iodine supp.? If you start

>someone off on such a huge dose couldn't this be very dangerous? > > > > > > > > > > > > ><http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-n

> uclear-reactor-meltdown/>http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-nuclear-reactor-meltdown/

> > > > > >It is looking like a meltdown is unavoidable possibly more than one. > > >I am in Vancouver--directly in the prevailing winds from Japan. They get > > >here in 36 hours.

> > > > > >I have phoned two major drugstores in Canada and they haven't even heard > > >of potassium iodide and I have no idea where to get it. > > > > > >I have regular iodine--is that usable in an emergency? I can get Lugol's

> > >but not till tomorrow. > > > > > >How much of over the counter iodine (2.5%)would I use? > > > > > >In our family we have a new born (being nursed) a two year old and a four

> > >year old one teen--several young adults and adults aged from 30 to 64. > > > > > >Can someone please give me some info on this? > > > > > >Thank you > > >Bea

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > > --A.J. Muste > > > >

> > >------------------------------------ > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/

> > >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

Yes, Angie... please do. --

At 08:28 PM 3/12/2011, you wrote:

Permission to cross-post?

-Angie

On Mar 12, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Baker wrote:

I'm amending my post to include how many drops of Lugol's is equivalent

to

the doses recommended (see below). These drop equivalents are based on

the

following:

2% Lugol's contains 2.5mg iodine per vertical drop

5% Lugol's contains 6.25mg iodine per vertical drop

If using Iodoral tablets, split the tablets to approximate the

dose.

These numbers are approximate, so err on the plus side when

dosing.

The dosage amounts recommended by the CDC are based on taking pure

potassium iodide, which the thyroid uses directly. So in order to get the

recommended amounts of potassium iodide, a person needs to take 1/3 more

of

Lugol's/Iodoral.

I posted the recommended dosages earlier. Here I will convert them for

use

with Lugol's/Iodoral. If I've done the math wrong, someone will let me

know asap.

Adults: dose = 130mg KI,

so Lugol's/Iodoral is 173mg.

Lugol's 2% is 70 drops. Lugol's 5% is 28 drops.

Women who are breastfeeding take adult dose.

Children between 3 and 18 years of age: dose = 65mg KI,

so Lugol's/Iodoral is 87mg

Lugol's 2% is 35 drops. Lugol's 5% is 14 drops.

Children who are 150 pounds or over should take the adult dose

regardless of age.

Infants and children between 1 month and 3 years of age: dose = 32mg

KI,

so Lugol's/Iodoral is 43mg

Lugol's 2% is 17 drops. Lugol's 5% is 7 drops.

This dose is for nursing and non-nursing infants/children

Newborns from birth to 1 month of age: dose = 16mg KI,

so Lugol's Iodoral is 22mg.

Lugol's 2% is 8 drops. Lugol's 5% is 4 drops.

This dose is for both nursing and non-nursing newborn infants.

Take one dose every 24 hours until the danger is past.

The CDC says to avoid repeat dosing for pregnant and breastfeeding women

and newborn infants, but that is because they are iodine-phobic. We

discuss this all the time on this list. Other sources say all individuals

should get the appropriate sized dose once every 24 hours until the

danger

is past.

Don't take Betadine or tincture of iodine orally. Only take Lugol's or

Iodoral or Potassium Iodide.

--

At 11:47 PM 3/11/2011, you wrote:

><

http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-nuclear-reactor-meltdown/

>

http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-nuclear-reactor-meltdown/

>

>It is looki

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

Studies after Chernobyl indicated that there was not a significant increase in

cancers other than thyroid cancer. This is because iodine concentrates in the

thyroid so that is where most of the radioactive iodine went in people not

protected by potassium iodide, and this is where the most significant damage

occurred.

Here is an interesting article covering many of the questions that are coming up

because of the Japan meltdowns.

http://www.ki4u.com/illwind.htm

Since much of the radioactive iodine will enter our bodies as we breathe,

staying indoors and using an N95 particle respirator are additional measures

besides taking potassium iodide.

The most pressing question is when to start since information about the quantity

of radioactive iodine being released is scant and I am not sure we can trust the

government of Japan or that of the US or Canada to be honest with us about what

is coming our way. So far I am just upping my 50mg per day of iodoral to 75mg

and holding my potassium iodide in reserve.

> > >

> > > ><

> > >

http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-nuclear-rea\

ctor-meltdown/

> > > >

> > >

http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-nuclear-rea\

ctor-meltdown/

> > > >

> > > >It is looking like a meltdown is unavoidable possibly more than one.

> > > >I am in Vancouver--directly in the prevailing winds from Japan. They get

> > > >here in 36 hours.

> > > >

> > > >I have phoned two major drugstores in Canada and they haven't even heard

> > > >of potassium iodide and I have no idea where to get it.

> > > >

> > > >I have regular iodine--is that usable in an emergency? I can get Lugol's

> > > >but not till tomorrow.

> > > >

> > > >How much of over the counter iodine (2.5%)would I use?

> > > >

> > > >In our family we have a new born (being nursed) a two year old and a four

> > > >year old one teen--several young adults and adults aged from 30 to 64.

> > > >

> > > >Can someone please give me some info on this?

> > > >

> > > >Thank you

> > > >Bea

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> > > --A.J. Muste

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Ariel Monserrat

> > Publisher & Managing Editor

> > Green Egg zine

> > www.greeneggzine.com

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Here is something of interest, about painting iodine on the skin for

protective dosing. This is from the site linked below.

>In an emergency, if no more KI tablets available here, you can topically

>(on the skin) apply an iodine solution, like tincture of iodine or

>Betadine, for a similar protective effect. (WARNING: Iodine is NEVER to be

>ingested or swallowed, it is poison to drink.) For adults, paint 8 ml of a

>2 percent tincture of Iodine on the abdomen or forearm each day, ideally

>at least 2 hours prior to initial exposure. For children 3 to 18, but

>under 150 pounds, only half that amount painted on daily, or 4 ml. For

>children under 3 but older than a month, half again, or 2 ml. For newborns

>to 1 month old, half it again, or just 1 ml. (One measuring teaspoon is

>about 5 ml, if you don't have a medicine dropper graduated in ml.) If your

>iodine solution is stronger than 2%, reduce the dosage accordingly.

>Absorption through the skin is not as reliable a dosing method as using

>the tablets, but tests show that it will still be very effective for most.

>Documentation of the above at www.ki4u.com, along with sources for KI

>tablets and formulas there for mixing up potassium iodide (KI) solutions

>if you acquire KI powder or crystals. Do not use if allergic to iodine.

>There are also a few other medical conditions and medications, discussed

>there, that are contraindicated that your physician can best advise you

>about. If at all possible, inquire of your doctor NOW if there is any

>reason why anybody in your household should not use KI, or iodine

>solutions topically on their skin, in a future nuclear emergency, just to

>be sure.

And let me say further that no one will regret protecting themselves from

potential fallout due to the problems in Japan. The standards the

governments set for the point at which they must notify the populace are

often beyond the point of actual damage. In other words, the point of

damage defined by governments is often higher than we might choose for

ourselves. So don't wait.

--

At 12:47 PM 3/13/2011, you wrote:

>Studies after Chernobyl indicated that there was not a significant

>increase in cancers other than thyroid cancer. This is because iodine

>concentrates in the thyroid so that is where most of the radioactive

>iodine went in people not protected by potassium iodide, and this is where

>the most significant damage occurred.

>

>Here is an interesting article covering many of the questions that are

>coming up because of the Japan meltdowns.

>

>http://www.ki4u.com/illwind.htm

>

>Since much of the radioactive iodine will enter our bodies as we breathe,

>staying indoors and using an N95 particle respirator are additional

>measures besides taking potassium iodide.

>

>The most pressing question is when to start since information about the

>quantity of radioactive iodine being released is scant and I am not sure

>we can trust the government of Japan or that of the US or Canada to be

>honest with us about what is coming our way. So far I am just upping my

>50mg per day of iodoral to 75mg and holding my potassium iodide in reserve.

>

>

> > > >

> > > > ><

> > > >

>

http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-nuclear-rea\

ctor-meltdown/

> > > > >

> > > >

>

http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-nuclear-rea\

ctor-meltdown/

> > > > >

> > > > >It is looking like a meltdown is unavoidable possibly more than one.

> > > > >I am in Vancouver--directly in the prevailing winds from Japan.

> They get

> > > > >here in 36 hours.

> > > > >

> > > > >I have phoned two major drugstores in Canada and they haven't even

> heard

> > > > >of potassium iodide and I have no idea where to get it.

> > > > >

> > > > >I have regular iodine--is that usable in an emergency? I can get

> Lugol's

> > > > >but not till tomorrow.

> > > > >

> > > > >How much of over the counter iodine (2.5%)would I use?

> > > > >

> > > > >In our family we have a new born (being nursed) a two year old and

> a four

> > > > >year old one teen--several young adults and adults aged from 30 to 64.

> > > > >

> > > > >Can someone please give me some info on this?

> > > > >

> > > > >Thank you

> > > > >Bea

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> > > > --A.J. Muste

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > Ariel Monserrat

> > > Publisher & Managing Editor

> > > Green Egg zine

> > > www.greeneggzine.com

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>------------------------------------

>

>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

>group IodineOT/

>

>

>Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

Diane,

I'm with other members who have posted that since other organs (including

the skin) absorb/use iodine and since most people are starved for iodine,

even those without thyroids would do well to take the iodine for

protection. Western medicine does not acknowledge this need, but again I'd

rather be safe than sorry.

--

At 02:01 PM 3/13/2011, you wrote:

>if the iodine is usually for the thyroid, what does iodine do for no

>thyroid people? pass it on to other organs? so if you are thyroid less i

>guess there is no reason to worry about the fall out and your thyroid...?

>

>also i tried the vitamin b12 lozenge the methylcobalamin? i don't like it.

>it takes at least half hour to dissolve. it is annoying. i end up chewing

>it and trying to get it to dissolve under the tongue that way, but i don't

>care for the lozenges.. someone told me b12 doesn't work if you swallow

>it. it is wasted? true?

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

Methyl B-12 is poorly absorbed through the digestive tract, which is why the more effective preparations are sublingual, & meant to be absorbed through the mucous membranes. (And the most effective of those may well be the liposomal ones, though I haven't seen research on that yet.) Once you swallow it, absorption falls sharply. (there are sublingual sprays you can use, by the way, so you don't have to wait for tablets to dissolve.AnneOn Mar 13, 2011, at 12:01 PM, diane gaul wrote: if the iodine is usually for the thyroid, what does iodine do for no thyroid people? pass it on to other organs? so if you are thyroid less i guess there is no reason to worry about the fall out and your thyroid...? also i tried the vitamin b12 lozenge the methylcobalamin? i don't like it. it takes at least half hour to dissolve. it is annoying. i end up chewing it and trying to get it to dissolve under the tongue that way, but i don't care for the lozenges.. someone told me b12 doesn't work if you swallow it. it is wasted? true? diane, near philly, pa On Mar 12, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Ariel Monserrat wrote:I started on 120 mg potassium iodide last Oct, never had a problem. Kids in Japan take inabout 35 mg/day in their diet and some even more than that. It's very hard to overdose on it, you'dhave to drink a whole bottle of it to cause much harm. SSKI is what is important, if you feel better going that route.ArielOn Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:49 AM, <fontana_christine_elise@...> wrote: These doses are very high - won't this cause a major detox reaction? For instance, my son is only taking 1 drop of lugol's (2%) per day, and according to what you say I would need to increase his dose to 35 drops - wouldn't that for certain cause major problems?What about people who've never even used any Iodine supp.? If you start someone off on such a huge dose couldn't this be very dangerous?> > > ><http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-nuclear-reactor-meltdown/>http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-nuclear-reactor-meltdown/> >> >It is looking like a meltdown is unavoidable possibly more than one.> >I am in Vancouver--directly in the prevailing winds from Japan. They get > >here in 36 hours.> >> >I have phoned two major drugstores in Canada and they haven't even heard > >of potassium iodide and I have no idea where to get it.> >> >I have regular iodine--is that usable in an emergency? I can get Lugol's > >but not till tomorrow.> >> >How much of over the counter iodine (2.5%)would I use?> >> >In our family we have a new born (being nursed) a two year old and a four > >year old one teen--several young adults and adults aged from 30 to 64.> >> >Can someone please give me some info on this?> >> >Thank you> >Bea> >> >> >> > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~> --A.J. Muste>-- Ariel MonserratPublisher & Managing EditorGreen Egg zinewww.greeneggzine.com

[Guest guest]

could you clarify for me if you are saying take Iodoral or Lugols at

full does below plus the KI doses? Or is the doses outlined below in place of

the KI.

I am wondering what kind of impact this could have on the veg. garden, my hens

and other animals. We live in Oregon 1 hr from the coast.

>

> I'm amending my post to include how many drops of Lugol's is equivalent to

> the doses recommended (see below). These drop equivalents are based on the

> following:

> 2% Lugol's contains 2.5mg iodine per vertical drop

>

[Guest guest]

,

I don't know what to say about the garden etc. I also garden and my

chickens I'm to get this spring are hatched and at the neighbors. I don't

know what to think.

The doses outlined are in order to get the full KI dose recommended by

age/size group. You would only need to take more if your normal dose was

more than that. If your normal dose is less than the doses outlined, then

your normal daily dose is already covered within the preventative dose.

--

At 01:23 AM 3/14/2011, you wrote:

> could you clarify for me if you are saying take Iodoral or Lugols

>at full does below plus the KI doses? Or is the doses outlined below in

>place of the KI.

>

>I am wondering what kind of impact this could have on the veg. garden, my

>hens and other animals. We live in Oregon 1 hr from the coast.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > I'm amending my post to include how many drops of Lugol's is equivalent to

> > the doses recommended (see below). These drop equivalents are based on

> the

> > following:

> > 2% Lugol's contains 2.5mg iodine per vertical drop

> >

>

>

>

>------------------------------------

>

>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

>group IodineOT/

>

>

>Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

could you clarify for me if you are saying take Iodoral or Lugols at full does below plus the KI doses? Or is the doses outlined below in place of the KI. I am wondering what kind of impact this could have on the veg. garden, my hens and other animals. We live in Oregon 1 hr from the coast.>> I'm amending my post to include how many drops of Lugol's is equivalent to > the doses recommended (see below). These drop equivalents are based on the > following:> 2% Lugol's contains 2.5mg iodine per vertical drop>

I put kelp in my compost. Kelp has iodine in it. whether or not this confers protection from radiation, I do not know. I do put iodine in my dog's water dish. Carol

[Guest guest]

> could you clarify for me if you are saying take Iodoral or Lugols

>at full does below plus the KI doses? Or is the doses outlined below in

>place of the KI.

>

>I am wondering what kind of impact this could have on the veg. garden, my

>hens and other animals. We live in Oregon 1 hr from the coast.

>

>

I posted my answer already, here it is again:

>,

>

>I don't know what to say about the garden etc. I also garden and my

>chickens I'm to get this spring are hatched and at the neighbors. I don't

>know what to think.

>

>The doses outlined are in order to get the full KI dose recommended by

>age/size group. You would only need to take more if your normal dose was

>more than that. If your normal dose is less than the doses outlined, then

>your normal daily dose is already covered within the preventative dose.

>

>--

>

> >

> > I'm amending my post to include how many drops of Lugol's is equivalent to

> > the doses recommended (see below). These drop equivalents are based on the

> > following:

> > 2% Lugol's contains 2.5mg iodine per vertical drop

> >

>

>I put kelp in my compost. Kelp has iodine in it. whether or not this

>confers protection from radiation, I do not know. I do put iodine in my

>dog's water dish. Carol

>

>

>

>

>

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

, you asked about how to protect the garden and the animals. So many people

have pets and livestock, and their welfare will be important too.

For about a year my cat has been drinking iodinated water, 1 drop of 7% Lugol's

in a quart of water. I mix it in a bottle that is kept tightly capped and I pour

a generous amount into his water dish every morning. He likes it and never gets

sick. I would guess his iodine levels are as topped up as mine are -- I take 2

drops of 7% Lugol's daily, giving 12.5 mg of iodine/iodide.

Since all vertebrates have a thyroid gland, you could give your hens and any

livestock iodinated water and they'd receive some protection from this. You

could also give them wheatgrass or barley grass or maybe coriander (cilantro)

leaves to help their bodies detox.

Regarding the garden, please consider this article by Dr. Mark Sircus of

International Medical Veritas Association.

http://blog.imva.info/medicine/treatments-nuclear-contamination

Dr. Sircus says, " So useful and strong is SODIUM BICARBONATE that at Los Alamos

National Laboratory in New Mexico, researcher Don York has used baking soda to

clean soil contaminated with uranium. Sodium bicarbonate binds with uranium,

separating it from the dirt; so far, York has removed as much as 92 percent of

the uranium from contaminated soil samples. "

I wonder if they used the bicarbonate dry and shook it or sifted it out from the

soil, since its texture is much finer than soil. All safety precautions would

need to be taken when handling soil that contained uranium.

Dr. Sircus also says, " the United States Army recommends the use of bicarbonate

to protect the kidneys from radiation damage. " That's good for you and good for

your animals -- just shake a little bit out when you're feeding the chickens and

they'll peck the bicarb up in their beaks. Baking soda licks (bricks) are

available for cows, sheep and horses. Arm & Hammer baking soda is cheap and it's

worthwhile to stock up now. I've bought 8 boxes, knowing that I can use them for

cleaning if they aren't needed for fallout protection.

, you could ask an agricultural agent to come out with a Geiger counter

after the nuclear crisis is over in Japan, to verify that your soil is not

" hot " .

I don't want to speculate whether it would be safe to eat vegetables that have

received fallout, even if they were detoxed afterward with a substance like

bicarb. Maybe prevention is the key here: Is your garden small enough that you

could cover the plants with sheets of clear plastic, sort of a makeshift

greenhouse?

Keep safe and well, everybody!

.

[snip]

> I am wondering what kind of impact this could have on the veg. garden, my hens

and other animals. We live in Oregon 1 hr from the coast.

>

>

[Guest guest]

My thoughts on the farm animals is to give them free choice kelp granules (which

can usually be purchased in 50# bags via the feed store) or purchase the SeaAgri

product and allow them free choice to that. Also give chickens a place to dust

themselves in Food Grade DE which may help with external exposures but they

really enjoy it for getting rid of mites and lice. Animals can also be fed

sodium bicarbonate or provide it to them free choice. I have only force fed it,

never offered free choice so I don't know if they would go for it or not. We

also force feed Food Grade DE. (By force feed I mean that we add it to things

they are eating daily so they just eat whatever we put in there ... we don't

shove it down them or anything :-)

The SeaAgri folks also suggest stirring Food Grade DE into their product and

offered free choice. Their suggestion is around getting rid of worms but DE has

it's own beneficial mineral profile and is also good for removing heavy metals.

Straying a little here but over the course of several years I found that Food

Grade DE cannot be relied upon as a complete worming program as the parasite

Onchocerca does not only live in the digestive track ... it is insidious and is

even found in the spinal column in post mortem exams.

For the garden, lawn, pasture or anywhere else animals & children play my

thoughts are to use kelp or the SeaAgri product for the most benefit. I

imagine that Kelp has a much higher iodine content but I have not looked at the

SeaAgri mineral profile. Perhaps in the case of radiation exposure a mixture of

these two products would have the greatest impact?

Epsom Salts are also great for lawns and other garden uses and perhaps will

benefit in " detoxing " them as well.

Baking soda is used to kill crabgrass but does not affect some other types of

turf. As Dr. Sircus is writing that baking soda is a must when faced with

radiation contamination - see my earlier post which provides a link to that -

perhaps it is something to consider for the lawn. Best thought that you read

more before putting baking soda on your lawn.

> > >

> > > I'm amending my post to include how many drops of Lugol's is equivalent to

> > > the doses recommended (see below). These drop equivalents are based on the

> > > following:

> > > 2% Lugol's contains 2.5mg iodine per vertical drop

> > >

> >

> >I put kelp in my compost. Kelp has iodine in it. whether or not this

> >confers protection from radiation, I do not know. I do put iodine in my

> >dog's water dish. Carol

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> --A.J. Muste

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