Re: CANNOT FIND POTASSIUM IODIDE

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You can get it from breastcancerchoices.comor google iodoral & get it overnighted.AliOn Mar 14, 2011, at 9:05 AM, paul catania wrote:Dear group, I live in Las Vegas and cannot find potassium iodide anywhere. I've been told (in local drug stores by pharmacists) various reasons such as1) A prescription is needed for it.2) They don't carry it anymore because it is used in making "meth". Anyway, I do have a bottle of "povidone iodine" and also a bottle of "magnascent iodine".Can any of these be substituted and if so, what would be the proper dosage/delivery? (Transdermally)?

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www.breastcancerchoices.orghere you'll find what you need. Also Amazon and e-bay sells Lugol's and Iodoral. from IllinoisFrom: paul catania <squiggle2@...>iodine Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 11:05:44 AMSubject: CANNOT FIND POTASSIUM IODIDE

Dear group,

I live in Las Vegas and cannot find potassium iodide anywhere. I've been told (in local drug stores by pharmacists) various reasons such as 1) A prescription is needed for it. 2) They don't carry it anymore because it is used in making "meth". Anyway, I do have a bottle of "povidone iodine" and also a bottle of "magnascent iodine". Can any of these be substituted and if so, what would be the proper dosage/delivery? (Transdermally)?

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Thank you,

In the meantime...to be on the safe side, would the magnascent, used transdermally, work at all? Or the povidone?

CANNOT FIND POTASSIUM IODIDE

Dear group,

I live in Las Vegas and cannot find potassium iodide anywhere. I've been told (in local drug stores by pharmacists) various reasons such as

1) A prescription is needed for it.

2) They don't carry it anymore because it is used in making "meth".

Anyway, I do have a bottle of "povidone iodine" and also a bottle of "magnascent iodine".

Can any of these be substituted and if so, what would be the proper dosage/delivery? (Transdermally)?

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I watched ebay auctions of potassium iodide tablets over the weekend and they

seem to have disappeared quickly, and are now gone. But there is plenty of

potassium iodide powder still available that you could use to make your own SSKI

or even your own capsules if you know what you are doing, and they do have 1 oz.

bottles of SSKI (20mg of iodine per drop). I bet most people do not realize

that SSKI is potassium iodide so they are not ordering it. I just checked at

Swanson Health Products online and they are out of Potassium Iodide but have

Iodoral and the price is $33.20 which is about as low as you can find.

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> www.breastcancerchoices.org

> here you'll find what you need. Also Amazon and e-bay sells Lugol's and

Iodoral.

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> from Illinois

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> From: paul catania <squiggle2@...>

> iodine

> Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 11:05:44 AM

> Subject: CANNOT FIND POTASSIUM IODIDE

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> Dear group,

>

> I live in Las Vegas and cannot find potassium iodide anywhere. I've been told

> (in local drug stores by pharmacists) various reasons such as

>

> 1) A prescription is needed for it.

> 2) They don't carry it anymore because it is used in making " meth " .

> Anyway, I do have a bottle of " povidone iodine " and also a bottle of

> " magnascent iodine " .

> Can any of these be substituted and if so, what would be the proper

> dosage/delivery? (Transdermally)?

>

>

>

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You can use the povidone transdermally. I posted on this already.

People, can you please read the posts that are already posted? I've posted

the same information over and over the last couple of days, including SSKI

source and transdermal use of povidone.

Here is the info I posted yesterday on transdermal use, which came from the

following site: http://www.ki4u.com/illwind.htm

Here is something of interest, about painting iodine on the skin for

protective dosing.

>In an emergency, if no more KI tablets available here, you can topically

>(on the skin) apply an iodine solution, like tincture of iodine or

>Betadine, for a similar protective effect. (WARNING: Iodine is NEVER to be

>ingested or swallowed, it is poison to drink.) For adults, paint 8 ml of a

>2 percent tincture of Iodine on the abdomen or forearm each day, ideally

>at least 2 hours prior to initial exposure. For children 3 to 18, but

>under 150 pounds, only half that amount painted on daily, or 4 ml. For

>children under 3 but older than a month, half again, or 2 ml. For newborns

>to 1 month old, half it again, or just 1 ml. (One measuring teaspoon is

>about 5 ml, if you don't have a medicine dropper graduated in ml.) If your

>iodine solution is stronger than 2%, reduce the dosage accordingly.

>Absorption through the skin is not as reliable a dosing method as using

>the tablets, but tests show that it will still be very effective for most.

>Documentation of the above at www.ki4u.com, along with sources for KI

>tablets and formulas there for mixing up potassium iodide (KI) solutions

>if you acquire KI powder or crystals. Do not use if allergic to iodine.

>There are also a few other medical conditions and medications, discussed

>there, that are contraindicated that your physician can best advise you

>about. If at all possible, inquire of your doctor NOW if there is any

>reason why anybody in your household should not use KI, or iodine

>solutions topically on their skin, in a future nuclear emergency, just to

>be sure.

And let me say further that no one will regret protecting themselves from

potential fallout due to the problems in Japan. The standards the

governments set for the point at which they must notify the populace are

often beyond the point of actual damage. In other words, the point of

damage defined by governments is often higher than we might choose for

ourselves. So don't wait.

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At 11:45 AM 3/14/2011, you wrote:

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>Thank you,

>In the meantime...to be on the safe side, would the magnascent, used

>transdermally, work at all? Or the povidone?

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> CANNOT FIND POTASSIUM IODIDE

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>Dear group,

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>I live in Las Vegas and cannot find potassium iodide anywhere. I've been

>told (in local drug stores by pharmacists) various reasons such as

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>1) A prescription is needed for it.

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>2) They don't carry it anymore because it is used in making " meth " .

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> Anyway, I do have a bottle of " povidone iodine " and also a bottle of

> " magnascent iodine " .

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>Can any of these be substituted and if so, what would be the proper

>dosage/delivery? (Transdermally)?

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~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

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Hi ,

I did read your post but this subject can be confusing. For example...your post deals with Betadine as a replacement for KI, which it states is "Provodone Iodine". I have a bottle of Walgreen's "Povidone Iodine". Are they the same thing?

Also, the pages say (WARNING: Iodine is NEVER to be ingested or swallowed, it is poison to drink.) I have magnascent iodine, which was not mentioned in the phlebotomy pages. Magnascent Iodine is supposed to be taken with water, internally.

So please forgive my ignorance of this subject as I find all a bit confusing and contradictory. I want to be very sure of anything that I put into or onto, my, or my families bodies.

CANNOT FIND POTASSIUM IODIDE>>>>Dear group,>>>>I live in Las Vegas and cannot find potassium iodide anywhere. I've been >told (in local drug stores by pharmacists) various reasons such as>>1) A prescription is needed for it.>>2) They don't carry it anymore because it is used in making "meth".>> Anyway, I do have a bottle of "povidone iodine" and also a bottle of > "magnascent iodine".>>Can any of these be substituted and if so, what would be the proper >dosage/delivery? (Transdermally)?>>>>>>>>>>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste

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I also had question about this method of iodine supplementation.

It seemed to me that people needed " potassium " iodide in case of nuclear

fallout. But Betadine consists partly of " elemental " iodine.

That's not the same thing, is it, or does the body care?

Also, I read that 50% of the iodine preps would evaporated in 2 hours, and 80%

within 24 hours.

Is this true, and was it taken into consideration when the advice by KI4U.com

wrote it? I'm assuming so, but I really don't know.

Thank you for this forum. Very, very interesting.

-Ken

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> >In the meantime...to be on the safe side, would the magnascent, used

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> >I live in Las Vegas and cannot find potassium iodide anywhere. I've been

> >told (in local drug stores by pharmacists) various reasons such as

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> >1) A prescription is needed for it.

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> >2) They don't carry it anymore because it is used in making " meth " .

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> > Anyway, I do have a bottle of " povidone iodine " and also a bottle of

> > " magnascent iodine " .

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> >Can any of these be substituted and if so, what would be the proper

> >dosage/delivery? (Transdermally)?

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> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> --A.J. Muste

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Ken,Your body needs both iodine and potassium iodide. Your thyroid needs the potassium iodide which is about 3% of what your whole body needs. The purpose here is preventing thyroid cancer which killed many after Chernobyl. I have read today totals of 4000 officially and 11,000 from another source equally reputable. Since there were 50 some countries involved. Some pockets of cancer were over 600 miles away. Most that were killed were children. 

I sent this earlier today to iodine but don't see it.

Professor Gerry , who holds a chair in molecular pathology at Imperial College London, began proceedings by pointing out that " one thing to note is that there has not yet been a significant release of radiation from this nuclear plant - the reactor core is currently still intact " . 's responses to Guardian readers' questions are in grey below:

Yes you do need to take stable iodine before exposure - if taken after exposure it can effectively lock in any radioactive iodine that has been absorbed.

The rest the story on Three Mile Island from the Huffington Post. Many people did die there and we are still not getting the full story.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/harvey-wasserman/people-died-at-three-mile_b_179588.html

Three Mile Island was only 3 months old. Similar errors for Chernobyl with 4000 in official count and 11000 in other media counts that have read today where some pockets of cancers were 600 or more miles away. Children were most vulnerable to thyroid cancers as growing quickly.

Japanese reactors were set to be retired in a month and are 40 years old so lots to contain. Also Japanese plants are  25th biggest in the world and had three times normal amount of plutonium which has half life of 24000 years. 3% vs typical 1% as were money/energy saving reasons. The reactors were built to withstand 7.5 and had a 9.0 earthquake which is over 10 times worse. Also not built to withstand tsunami at all.

NPR radio mentioned Japanese has asked both US and international community for help with the reactors and gaining control. They had 11 to watch and 58 reactors in all. They have evacuated 200,000 people in 10 mile radius around the most worrisome reactors which are 6. The problem child seems to keep changing in reporting. They have had hydrogen explosions at 2 and very bad to have exposed rods to cool in two.

This article explains these happenings with experts.

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/3/14/japan_facing_biggest_catastrophe_since_dawn

Ken if you have alcohol in it then you must use on skin which is less effective so may want to put on neck by thyroid. More will evaporate but you can't drink rubbing alcohol. Pam

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:28 PM, kenancy2000 <kenancy2000@...> wrote:

 

I also had question about this method of iodine supplementation.

It seemed to me that people needed " potassium " iodide in case of nuclear fallout. But Betadine consists partly of " elemental " iodine.

That's not the same thing, is it, or does the body care?

Also, I read that 50% of the iodine preps would evaporated in 2 hours, and 80% within 24 hours.

Is this true, and was it taken into consideration when the advice by KI4U.com wrote it? I'm assuming so, but I really don't know.

Thank you for this forum. Very, very interesting.

-Ken

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Ok, , I gotcha. Povidone iodine has a brand name, called

Betadine. But there are generic versions. So the Walgreen's is the same

thing.

As far as the pages saying WARNING: Iodine is NEVER to be ingested " that's

just about the povidone iodine, or tincture of iodine. Obviously we can

and do intake Lugol's. Remember that there are lies about iodine

everywhere, including on that site that is recommending iodine. weird, but

true.

I didn't understand that you had additional questions about the same

information, . Please forgive my statements, and please always do ask

questions.

I hope your questions have been addressed here, if not, please let me know.

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At 04:12 PM 3/14/2011, you wrote:

>Hi ,

>

>I did read your post but this subject can be confusing. For example...your

>post deals with Betadine as a replacement for KI, which it states is

> " Provodone Iodine " . I have a bottle of Walgreen's " Povidone Iodine " . Are

>they the same thing?

>

>Also, the pages say (WARNING: Iodine is NEVER to be ingested or swallowed,

>it is poison to drink.) I have magnascent iodine, which was not mentioned

>in the phlebotomy pages. Magnascent Iodine is supposed to be taken with

>water, internally.

>

>So please forgive my ignorance of this subject as I find all a bit

>confusing and contradictory. I want to be very sure of anything that I put

>into or onto, my, or my families bodies.

>

>

>

> CANNOT FIND POTASSIUM IODIDE

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> >Dear group,

> >

> >

> >

> >I live in Las Vegas and cannot find potassium iodide anywhere. I've been

> >told (in local drug stores by pharmacists) various reasons such as

> >

> >1) A prescription is needed for it.

> >

> >2) They don't carry it anymore because it is used in making " meth " .

> >

> > Anyway, I do have a bottle of " povidone iodine " and also a bottle of

> > " magnascent iodine " .

> >

> >Can any of these be substituted and if so, what would be the proper

> >dosage/delivery? (Transdermally)?

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> >

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>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

>--A.J. Muste

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~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

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Hi ,

Thanks for the clarification.

No forgiveness needed...especially for someone like yourself, whose trying to get all the correct information out there. )

CANNOT FIND POTASSIUM IODIDE> >> >> >> >Dear group,> >> >> >> >I live in Las Vegas and cannot find potassium iodide anywhere. I've been> >told (in local drug stores by pharmacists) various reasons such as> >> >1) A prescription is needed for it.> >> >2) They don't carry it anymore because it is used in making "meth".> >> > Anyway, I do have a bottle of "povidone iodine" and also a bottle of> > "magnascent iodine".> >> >Can any of these be substituted and if so, what would be the proper> >dosage/delivery? (Transdermally)?> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~>--A.J. Muste>>>>>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste