Re: Iodine..who has truly benefited?

March 16, 2011

Peary,

The article I recommended is about three pages long and will not take hours to read. I always recommend that people with Hashis read this article because it is the only explanation of what causes the disease that I have found so far apart from the vague things that doctors say like, "stress", "pregnancy", "genetic predisposition", etc. It explains why taking iodine on it's own may cause a Hashi attack whereas taking iodine with selenium will not. This is an important point. There is a difference between just taking iodine and following the iodine protocol. I know that it is difficult to wade through all the info about thyroid disorders when you have brain fog, but if you are going to read something, I think that "Facts about Iodine and Auto-immune Thyroiditis" should be it.

I found that my brain fog lifted pretty fast after starting the IP. In fact I even stopped taking T4 for about six months and didn't notice much deterioration in my condition (which just goes to show how useless it is!). I didn't get improvement in my aching muscles and burning feet, but because I could think straight I was able to tackle these problems.

After 6 months on iodine I got my iron levels sorted out and plucked up courage to take some T3 (which is almost as maligned as iodine) and things have been getting better ever since.

Iodine has not been the answer to all my health problems but it has got me out of what I considered to be a "danger zone" and got my mind back. Overall it has been extremely beneficial and I do not consider that I have suffered any drawbacks apart from a couple of stains on my table cloths.

MacGilchrist

From: pearypeary <pearypeary@...>iodine Sent: Wed, 16 March, 2011 18:28:45Subject: Re: Iodine..who has truly benefited?

Thank you Carol and Everyone who has reponded on this topic.

It seems there are many of you that have benefited from iodine supplementation but perhaps there are other factors that are aiding the improvements too..ie: gluten avoidance,selenium uptake etc...

Would it be prudent to start with a couple of drops of Crow's Lugols iodine 2% available from Amazon?

I really can't spend hours reading protocols and additional information relating to this.I just don't have the time or energy.I hope that doesn't annoy others reading but I'm just so tired of it all and have awful brainfog.

Is there anything I should look out for in regards to unpleasant side effects?

Thanks Peary(>> When I started taking iodine, within 2 weeks I was hyper instead of hypo. So> I quit my Armour. It is over a year later and I am still off it. Helped my> acne rosacea too. Carol>

March 16, 2011

Thanks Jess,

That was very informative!! I had no idea!! So, do you think all Hashi people

should stay away from gluten or should I go get tested 1st to see if I have a

problem? Would I get tested for Celiac disease? Would I have symptoms if I had

a problem? We eat A LOT of whole wheat and soy sauce and just recently we

decided to start making our own bread from wheat, so now I'm concerned about

this decision. What do you think?

> > > >

> > > > I too am interested in hearing from those who have Hashi's and take

iodine. I've read conflicting opinions...some swear it's the answer and some say

no. I've experienced a lowering of my antibodies since giving up wheat 9 months

ago and would like to see them even lower than the 300 they fell to. Just a bit

on the fence about iodine but with the radiation factor looks like I'll be

giving it a go regardless!

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Janet

> > > >

> > > > Hi Peary,

> > > > I started taking iodine in June 2008. Within six weeks I had got rid of

the breast tenderness that I had had for over 20 years. I had just about tried

everything short of a masectomy.

> > > > I got rid of my heart flutters which were going at about 1-2 per day.

> > > > After a long period of not much happening in october 2010 my TPO

antithyroid antibodies went back down below alert level and the other ones

(can't remember the right name) are going down too.

> > > > I can no longer feel the 5 by 1 cm cyst that I had in my right breast.

It is still there but it has definately shrunk. It has been growing for eight

years.

> > > > My mother died of breast cancer in both breasts. I think iodine has

saved my life. My health closely resembled my mothers pre-cancer health history.

Iodine has sorted out my Hashimoto's disease and my fibrocystic breast disease.

> > > > My advice if you have reservations is to start low and work up. Don't

ever forget to take your selenium.

> > > > MacGilchrist

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 16, 2011

Wheat, especially, is very damaging. Gluten grains cause leaky gut and all kinds of other auto-immune diseases. Dangerous Grains by Dr. Braly is very informative. You don't need to be diagnosed as celiac to be damaged by gluten, especially wheat! No one can fully digest it. It is not healthy for humans (or domestic animals either).Nonie

> iodine > From: shanenchar@...> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 18:39:29 +0000> Subject: Re: Iodine..who has truly benefited?> > Thanks Jess,> That was very informative!! I had no idea!! So, do you think all Hashi people should stay away from gluten or should I go get tested 1st to see if I have a problem? Would I get tested for Celiac disease? Would I have symptoms if I had a problem? We eat A LOT of whole wheat and soy sauce and just recently we decided to start making our own bread from wheat, so now I'm concerned about this decision. What do you think?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I too am interested in hearing from those who have Hashi's and take iodine. I've read conflicting opinions...some swear it's the answer and some say no. I've experienced a lowering of my antibodies since giving up wheat 9 months ago and would like to see them even lower than the 300 they fell to. Just a bit on the fence about iodine but with the radiation factor looks like I'll be giving it a go regardless!> > > > > Thanks,> > > > > Janet> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Peary,> > > > > I started taking iodine in June 2008. Within six weeks I had got rid of the breast tenderness that I had had for over 20 years. I had just about tried everything short of a masectomy. > > > > > I got rid of my heart flutters which were going at about 1-2 per day.> > > > > After a long period of not much happening in october 2010 my TPO antithyroid antibodies went back down below alert level and the other ones (can't remember the right name) are going down too. > > > > > I can no longer feel the 5 by 1 cm cyst that I had in my right breast. It is still there but it has definately shrunk. It has been growing for eight years.> > > > > My mother died of breast cancer in both breasts. I think iodine has saved my life. My health closely resembled my mothers pre-cancer health history. Iodine has sorted out my Hashimoto's disease and my fibrocystic breast disease.> > > > > My advice if you have reservations is to start low and work up. Don't ever forget to take your selenium.> > > > > MacGilchrist> > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------> > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/> > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

March 16, 2011

All gluten intolerance does not manifest as celiac disease. I wouldn't bother with the test. You can still have a problem with gluten without testing positive for celiac.Hate to say it, but it is probably a good idea to go gluten-free for a while, & see how you feel (once you are done with the DTs. Joke.)AnneOn Mar 16, 2011, at 11:39 AM, shanenchar wrote: Thanks Jess, That was very informative!! I had no idea!! So, do you think all Hashi people should stay away from gluten or should I go get tested 1st to see if I have a problem? Would I get tested for Celiac disease? Would I have symptoms if I had a problem? We eat A LOT of whole wheat and soy sauce and just recently we decided to start making our own bread from wheat, so now I'm concerned about this decision. What do you think? > > > > > > > > > > > > I too am interested in hearing from those who have Hashi's and take iodine. I've read conflicting opinions...some swear it's the answer and some say no. I've experienced a lowering of my antibodies since giving up wheat 9 months ago and would like to see them even lower than the 300 they fell to. Just a bit on the fence about iodine but with the radiation factor looks like I'll be giving it a go regardless! > > > > Thanks, > > > > Janet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Peary, > > > > I started taking iodine in June 2008. Within six weeks I had got rid of the breast tenderness that I had had for over 20 years. I had just about tried everything short of a masectomy. > > > > I got rid of my heart flutters which were going at about 1-2 per day. > > > > After a long period of not much happening in october 2010 my TPO antithyroid antibodies went back down below alert level and the other ones (can't remember the right name) are going down too. > > > > I can no longer feel the 5 by 1 cm cyst that I had in my right breast. It is still there but it has definately shrunk. It has been growing for eight years. > > > > My mother died of breast cancer in both breasts. I think iodine has saved my life. My health closely resembled my mothers pre-cancer health history. Iodine has sorted out my Hashimoto's disease and my fibrocystic breast disease. > > > > My advice if you have reservations is to start low and work up. Don't ever forget to take your selenium. > > > > MacGilchrist > > > > > > > > > > > >

March 16, 2011

I was just tested for many food allergies. I was loosing my hair so I decided to eliminate gluten from my diet and the hair loss has stopped. My blood test did not show positive for celiac but many folks are gluten sensitive. A gluten free diet seems a little tricky at first but it really isn't. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: Anne Seals <anneseals@...>Sender: iodine Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:09:48 -0700<iodine >Reply iodine Subject: Re: Re: Iodine..who has truly benefited? All gluten intolerance does not manifest as celiac disease. I wouldn't bother with the test. You can still have a problem with gluten without testing positive for celiac.Hate to say it, but it is probably a good idea to go gluten-free for a while, & see how you feel (once you are done with the DTs. Joke.)AnneOn Mar 16, 2011, at 11:39 AM, shanenchar wrote: Thanks Jess, That was very informative!! I had no idea!! So, do you think all Hashi people should stay away from gluten or should I go get tested 1st to see if I have a problem? Would I get tested for Celiac disease? Would I have symptoms if I had a problem? We eat A LOT of whole wheat and soy sauce and just recently we decided to start making our own bread from wheat, so now I'm concerned about this decision. What do you think? > > > > > > > > > > > > I too am interested in hearing from those who have Hashi's and take iodine. I've read conflicting opinions...some swear it's the answer and some say no. I've experienced a lowering of my antibodies since giving up wheat 9 months ago and would like to see them even lower than the 300 they fell to. Just a bit on the fence about iodine but with the radiation factor looks like I'll be giving it a go regardless! > > > > Thanks, > > > > Janet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Peary, > > > > I started taking iodine in June 2008. Within six weeks I had got rid of the breast tenderness that I had had for over 20 years. I had just about tried everything short of a masectomy. > > > > I got rid of my heart flutters which were going at about 1-2 per day. > > > > After a long period of not much happening in october 2010 my TPO antithyroid antibodies went back down below alert level and the other ones (can't remember the right name) are going down too. > > > > I can no longer feel the 5 by 1 cm cyst that I had in my right breast. It is still there but it has definately shrunk. It has been growing for eight years. > > > > My mother died of breast cancer in both breasts. I think iodine has saved my life. My health closely resembled my mothers pre-cancer health history. Iodine has sorted out my Hashimoto's disease and my fibrocystic breast disease. > > > > My advice if you have reservations is to start low and work up. Don't ever forget to take your selenium. > > > > MacGilchrist > > > > > > > > > > > >

March 16, 2011

Good grief!! I am just so confused by all of this information. I was under the

impression that whole wheat was better for you and to skip the white bread.

What kind of bread is good for you?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I too am interested in hearing from those who have Hashi's and take

iodine. I've read conflicting opinions...some swear it's the answer and some say

no. I've experienced a lowering of my antibodies since giving up wheat 9 months

ago and would like to see them even lower than the 300 they fell to. Just a bit

on the fence about iodine but with the radiation factor looks like I'll be

giving it a go regardless!

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > Janet

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Peary,

> > > > > > I started taking iodine in June 2008. Within six weeks I had got rid

of the breast tenderness that I had had for over 20 years. I had just about

tried everything short of a masectomy.

> > > > > > I got rid of my heart flutters which were going at about 1-2 per

day.

> > > > > > After a long period of not much happening in october 2010 my TPO

antithyroid antibodies went back down below alert level and the other ones

(can't remember the right name) are going down too.

> > > > > > I can no longer feel the 5 by 1 cm cyst that I had in my right

breast. It is still there but it has definately shrunk. It has been growing for

eight years.

> > > > > > My mother died of breast cancer in both breasts. I think iodine has

saved my life. My health closely resembled my mothers pre-cancer health history.

Iodine has sorted out my Hashimoto's disease and my fibrocystic breast disease.

> > > > > > My advice if you have reservations is to start low and work up.

Don't ever forget to take your selenium.

> > > > > > MacGilchrist

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group

IodineOT/

> >

> > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

March 16, 2011

What are DTs? I didn't get it

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I too am interested in hearing from those who have Hashi's

> > and take iodine. I've read conflicting opinions...some swear it's

> > the answer and some say no. I've experienced a lowering of my

> > antibodies since giving up wheat 9 months ago and would like to see

> > them even lower than the 300 they fell to. Just a bit on the fence

> > about iodine but with the radiation factor looks like I'll be

> > giving it a go regardless!

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > Janet

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Peary,

> > > > > > I started taking iodine in June 2008. Within six weeks I

> > had got rid of the breast tenderness that I had had for over 20

> > years. I had just about tried everything short of a masectomy.

> > > > > > I got rid of my heart flutters which were going at about

> > 1-2 per day.

> > > > > > After a long period of not much happening in october 2010

> > my TPO antithyroid antibodies went back down below alert level and

> > the other ones (can't remember the right name) are going down too.

> > > > > > I can no longer feel the 5 by 1 cm cyst that I had in my

> > right breast. It is still there but it has definately shrunk. It

> > has been growing for eight years.

> > > > > > My mother died of breast cancer in both breasts. I think

> > iodine has saved my life. My health closely resembled my mothers

> > pre-cancer health history. Iodine has sorted out my Hashimoto's

> > disease and my fibrocystic breast disease.

> > > > > > My advice if you have reservations is to start low and work

> > up. Don't ever forget to take your selenium.

> > > > > > MacGilchrist

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 16, 2011

Hi

So you take only T3 and 50mg of iodine+nutrients to treat your Hashimoto?

> >

> > When I started taking iodine, within 2 weeks I was hyper instead of hypo. So

> > I quit my Armour. It is over a year later and I am still off it. Helped my

> > acne rosacea too. Carol

> >

>

March 16, 2011

Hi ,

Can you elaborate some more on " I can't take any cod liver

oil or flax seed oil - apparently for some people it affects their thyroid. " I

have never heard of it.

Thank you

Alina

>

> I also gave up gluten and am totally organic. I can't take any cod liver

> oil or flax seed oil - apparently for some people it affects their thyroid.

>

March 16, 2011

Whole grain is always superior to refined grain and flours. There are many gluten free breads available at "health" food stores. I've learned to do any with bread myself. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: "shanenchar" <shanenchar@...>Sender: iodine Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:44:50 -0000<iodine >Reply iodine Subject: Re: Iodine..who has truly benefited? Good grief!! I am just so confused by all of this information. I was under the impression that whole wheat was better for you and to skip the white bread. What kind of bread is good for you? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I too am interested in hearing from those who have Hashi's and take iodine. I've read conflicting opinions...some swear it's the answer and some say no. I've experienced a lowering of my antibodies since giving up wheat 9 months ago and would like to see them even lower than the 300 they fell to. Just a bit on the fence about iodine but with the radiation factor looks like I'll be giving it a go regardless!> > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > Janet> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Peary,> > > > > > I started taking iodine in June 2008. Within six weeks I had got rid of the breast tenderness that I had had for over 20 years. I had just about tried everything short of a masectomy. > > > > > > I got rid of my heart flutters which were going at about 1-2 per day.> > > > > > After a long period of not much happening in october 2010 my TPO antithyroid antibodies went back down below alert level and the other ones (can't remember the right name) are going down too. > > > > > > I can no longer feel the 5 by 1 cm cyst that I had in my right breast. It is still there but it has definately shrunk. It has been growing for eight years.> > > > > > My mother died of breast cancer in both breasts. I think iodine has saved my life. My health closely resembled my mothers pre-cancer health history. Iodine has sorted out my Hashimoto's disease and my fibrocystic breast disease.> > > > > > My advice if you have reservations is to start low and work up. Don't ever forget to take your selenium.> > > > > > MacGilchrist> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/> > > > > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

March 16, 2011

You don't need to take them together. Just supplement with selenium.

Buist, ND

Re: Iodine..who has truly benefited?

But are you supposed to take the selenium with the iodine, so if you need to take the iodine with the selenium, but you need to take the iodine in the am to help prevent insomnia (insomnia and low WBC are two of my major health issues), what do you do?Pamela Valley <2007pams@> wrote:> >> > 200-400 mcg of selenium daily. Evening dosing increases your killer T cells> > that look for unwanted cells I read somewhere. Pam> > >

March 16, 2011

Some insist no grains are good for us. The book, The Primal Blueprint outlines a cave woman diet which would not have included any grains. Gluten is not just in wheat so going gluten free means more than just avoiding wheat. You'll need to become informed and know that wheat is everywhere so label reading and restaurant item scrutiny is essential to avoid it.

Many find that health issues they would never have thought as "wheat" related cease when they give it up. It does take about 3 months though supposedly to clear out.

I resisted doing it for my hashi's since I had no digestive issues or "outward signs" of gluten sensitivity but have found my antibodies consistently lowering over the last six months

Janet

iodine From: shanenchar@...Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:44:50 +0000Subject: Re: Iodine..who has truly benefited?

Good grief!! I am just so confused by all of this information. I was under the impression that whole wheat was better for you and to skip the white bread. What kind of bread is good for you?

March 16, 2011

I would recommend watching this video from Dr. Mark Hyman on Gluten

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLJSmJ0bMlk & feature=relmfu

I also recommend the Dangerous Grains book. It changed my life.

Buist, ND

RE: Re: Iodine..who has truly benefited?

Wheat, especially, is very damaging. Gluten grains cause leaky gut and all kinds of other auto-immune diseases. Dangerous Grains by Dr. Braly is very informative. You don't need to be diagnosed as celiac to be damaged by gluten, especially wheat! No one can fully digest it. It is not healthy for humans (or domestic animals either).Nonie

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March 16, 2011

DTs are detox tremors - typically a term used in conjunction with detoxing from alcohol and/or major drugs. However, it was used in this context as a joke. As in it is hard to give up gluten and we do in some ways act addicted to it and therefore have withdrawal symptoms when quitting. With food the withdrawal is typically food cravings, feeling tired, headaches, maybe some GI issues, that sort of thing - but not actual DTs - thus the joke.

The good news is once you come out the other side most people feel considerably better. People often have no idea the extent of the symptoms they have/had in relation to something like gluten until the stop consuming it. Once it is out of the system and the gut and intestines have a chance to heal people often feel better - and see other improvements in their health as they are better able to digest their food and utilize the nutrients in the food. Including IODINE.

In fact off on an iodine tangent we pondered previously on this list. I would wonder if this plays into why some people have better luck with liquid iodine versus the iodoral. iodoral counts on being absorbed in the intestines BUT if you have intestinal problems which impact your ability to absorb nutrients - say inflamation from eating gluten or UC or Crohn's with active inflamtion - maybe you are not absorbing as much of the iodine if you take it via iodoral than if you took it as a liquid and it mostly absorbed in the stomach.

Just a thought.

Jaxi

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:46 PM, shanenchar <shanenchar@...> wrote:

What are DTs? I didn't get it

> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > I too am interested in hearing from those who have Hashi's> > and take iodine. I've read conflicting opinions...some swear it's

> > the answer and some say no. I've experienced a lowering of my> > antibodies since giving up wheat 9 months ago and would like to see> > them even lower than the 300 they fell to. Just a bit on the fence

> > about iodine but with the radiation factor looks like I'll be> > giving it a go regardless!> > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > Janet> > > > > >

> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Peary,> > > > > > I started taking iodine in June 2008. Within six weeks I> > had got rid of the breast tenderness that I had had for over 20> > years. I had just about tried everything short of a masectomy.

> > > > > > I got rid of my heart flutters which were going at about> > 1-2 per day.> > > > > > After a long period of not much happening in october 2010> > my TPO antithyroid antibodies went back down below alert level and

> > the other ones (can't remember the right name) are going down too.> > > > > > I can no longer feel the 5 by 1 cm cyst that I had in my> > right breast. It is still there but it has definately shrunk. It

> > has been growing for eight years.> > > > > > My mother died of breast cancer in both breasts. I think> > iodine has saved my life. My health closely resembled my mothers> > pre-cancer health history. Iodine has sorted out my Hashimoto's

> > disease and my fibrocystic breast disease.> > > > > > My advice if you have reservations is to start low and work> > up. Don't ever forget to take your selenium.> > > > > > MacGilchrist

> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>------------------------------------All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/

Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

March 16, 2011

Sorry. Bad joke. People tend to be addicted to gluten, & many find it hard to give up -- like an alcoholic finds it hard to give up booze. Some people find it quite easy, but for others, there is an uncomfortable "kicking the habit" phase.AnneOn Mar 16, 2011, at 12:46 PM, shanenchar wrote: What are DTs? I didn't get it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I too am interested in hearing from those who have Hashi's > > and take iodine. I've read conflicting opinions...some swear it's > > the answer and some say no. I've experienced a lowering of my > > antibodies since giving up wheat 9 months ago and would like to see > > them even lower than the 300 they fell to. Just a bit on the fence > > about iodine but with the radiation factor looks like I'll be > > giving it a go regardless! > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Janet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Peary, > > > > > > I started taking iodine in June 2008. Within six weeks I > > had got rid of the breast tenderness that I had had for over 20 > > years. I had just about tried everything short of a masectomy. > > > > > > I got rid of my heart flutters which were going at about > > 1-2 per day. > > > > > > After a long period of not much happening in october 2010 > > my TPO antithyroid antibodies went back down below alert level and > > the other ones (can't remember the right name) are going down too. > > > > > > I can no longer feel the 5 by 1 cm cyst that I had in my > > right breast. It is still there but it has definately shrunk. It > > has been growing for eight years. > > > > > > My mother died of breast cancer in both breasts. I think > > iodine has saved my life. My health closely resembled my mothers > > pre-cancer health history. Iodine has sorted out my Hashimoto's > > disease and my fibrocystic breast disease. > > > > > > My advice if you have reservations is to start low and work > > up. Don't ever forget to take your selenium. > > > > > > MacGilchrist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

March 16, 2011

Omega 3 fatty acids have a positive effect on the thyroid gland http://www.drlowe.com/nutrition/articles/omega3.htm I have heard some rumblings that Flax seed oil is a goitrogen though.

Buist, ND

Re: Iodine..who has truly benefited?

Hi ,Can you elaborate some more on "I can't take any cod liveroil or flax seed oil - apparently for some people it affects their thyroid." I have never heard of it.Thank youAlina>> I also gave up gluten and am totally organic. I can't take any cod liver> oil or flax seed oil - apparently for some people it affects their thyroid.> > > >

March 16, 2011

Grains are not really healthy. Avoid bread. Wheat, like, soy , has been touted as healthy.."the staff of life", but, it causes destruction of the gut and leads to auto-immune diseases...cancer, arthritis, thyroiditis, ms, ibs, etc. One of the reasons it is so difficult to stop is, just like dairy, it causes morphine like substances in the body..hard addiction!

There is a lot of scientific info from Dr. Zagon's research.Nonie

> iodine > From: shanenchar@...> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:44:50 +0000> Subject: Re: Iodine..who has truly benefited?> > Good grief!! I am just so confused by all of this information. I was under the impression that whole wheat was better for you and to skip the white bread. What kind of bread is good for you? > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I too am interested in hearing from those who have Hashi's and take iodine. I've read conflicting opinions...some swear it's the answer and some say no. I've experienced a lowering of my antibodies since giving up wheat 9 months ago and would like to see them even lower than the 300 they fell to. Just a bit on the fence about iodine but with the radiation factor looks like I'll be giving it a go regardless!> > > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > > Janet> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Peary,> > > > > > > I started taking iodine in June 2008. Within six weeks I had got rid of the breast tenderness that I had had for over 20 years. I had just about tried everything short of a masectomy. > > > > > > > I got rid of my heart flutters which were going at about 1-2 per day.> > > > > > > After a long period of not much happening in october 2010 my TPO antithyroid antibodies went back down below alert level and the other ones (can't remember the right name) are going down too. > > > > > > > I can no longer feel the 5 by 1 cm cyst that I had in my right breast. It is still there but it has definately shrunk. It has been growing for eight years.> > > > > > > My mother died of breast cancer in both breasts. I think iodine has saved my life. My health closely resembled my mothers pre-cancer health history. Iodine has sorted out my Hashimoto's disease and my fibrocystic breast disease.> > > > > > > My advice if you have reservations is to start low and work up. Don't ever forget to take your selenium.> > > > > > > MacGilchrist> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/> > > > > > > > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

March 16, 2011

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! Delerium tremors!! ha ha....get it now

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I too am interested in hearing from those who have Hashi's

> > > > and take iodine. I've read conflicting opinions...some swear it's

> > > > the answer and some say no. I've experienced a lowering of my

> > > > antibodies since giving up wheat 9 months ago and would like to

> > see

> > > > them even lower than the 300 they fell to. Just a bit on the fence

> > > > about iodine but with the radiation factor looks like I'll be

> > > > giving it a go regardless!

> > > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > > Janet

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi Peary,

> > > > > > > > I started taking iodine in June 2008. Within six weeks I

> > > > had got rid of the breast tenderness that I had had for over 20

> > > > years. I had just about tried everything short of a masectomy.

> > > > > > > > I got rid of my heart flutters which were going at about

> > > > 1-2 per day.

> > > > > > > > After a long period of not much happening in october 2010

> > > > my TPO antithyroid antibodies went back down below alert level and

> > > > the other ones (can't remember the right name) are going down too.

> > > > > > > > I can no longer feel the 5 by 1 cm cyst that I had in my

> > > > right breast. It is still there but it has definately shrunk. It

> > > > has been growing for eight years.

> > > > > > > > My mother died of breast cancer in both breasts. I think

> > > > iodine has saved my life. My health closely resembled my mothers

> > > > pre-cancer health history. Iodine has sorted out my Hashimoto's

> > > > disease and my fibrocystic breast disease.

> > > > > > > > My advice if you have reservations is to start low and

> > work

> > > > up. Don't ever forget to take your selenium.

> > > > > > > > MacGilchrist

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 16, 2011

Because we love nice, highly risen bread, they have bred wheat to have a much higher gluten content than the original varieties had. That leads to too much gluten, which can cause damage. We make our homemade bread with spelt, because the gluten content is much lower. It works well! Donna in IL Good grief!! I am just so confused by all of this information. I was under the impression that whole wheat was better for you and to skip the white bread. What kind of bread is good for you? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I too am interested in hearing from those who have Hashi's and take iodine. I've read conflicting opinions...some swear it's the answer and some say no. I've experienced a lowering of my antibodies since giving up wheat 9 months ago and would like to see them even lower than the 300 they fell to. Just a bit on the fence about iodine but with the radiation factor looks like I'll be giving it a go regardless!> > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > Janet> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Peary,> > > > > > I started taking iodine in June 2008. Within six weeks I had got rid of the breast tenderness that I had had for over 20 years. I had just about tried everything short of a masectomy. > > > > > > I got rid of my heart flutters which were going at about 1-2 per day.> > > > > > After a long period of not much happening in october 2010 my TPO antithyroid antibodies went back down below alert level and the other ones (can't remember the right name) are going down too. > > > > > > I can no longer feel the 5 by 1 cm cyst that I had in my right breast. It is still there but it has definately shrunk. It has been growing for eight years.> > > > > > My mother died of breast cancer in both breasts. I think iodine has saved my life. My health closely resembled my mothers pre-cancer health history. Iodine has sorted out my Hashimoto's disease and my fibrocystic breast disease.> > > > > > My advice if you have reservations is to start low and work up. Don't ever forget to take your selenium.> > > > > > MacGilchrist> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/> > > > > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

March 16, 2011

Thanks for your response and thank you for your patience with me on this one. I

am still confused about the antibodies. Doesn't your thyroid medicine keep the

antibodies down? And, what happens when your antibodies are increased? Thanks

again!

>

> Some insist no grains are good for us. The book, The Primal Blueprint

outlines a cave woman diet which would not have included any grains. Gluten is

not just in wheat so going gluten free means more than just avoiding wheat.

You'll need to become informed and know that wheat is everywhere so label

reading and restaurant item scrutiny is essential to avoid it.

> Many find that health issues they would never have thought as " wheat " related

cease when they give it up. It does take about 3 months though supposedly to

clear out.

> I resisted doing it for my hashi's since I had no digestive issues or " outward

signs " of gluten sensitivity but have found my antibodies consistently lowering

over the last six months

> Janet

>

> iodine

> From: shanenchar@...

> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:44:50 +0000

> Subject: Re: Iodine..who has truly benefited?

>

> Good grief!! I am just so confused by all of this information. I was under the

impression that whole wheat was better for you and to skip the white bread. What

kind of bread is good for you?

>

March 16, 2011

Actually, DT stands for Delerium Tremens.

Jaye

>

> DTs are detox tremors - typically a term used in conjunction with detoxing

> from alcohol and/or major drugs. However, it was used in this context as a

> joke. > <snip>

> Jaxi

>

March 16, 2011

Oops ... right too true ... I have a very clear mental picture of what they look like and have thus affixed that to the term. Amazing how the brain works to organize info.Delirium tremens - latin for " shaking frenzy "

Good catch. JaxiOn Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 6:00 PM, <jprocure@...> wrote:

Actually, DT stands for Delerium Tremens.

Jaye

>

> DTs are detox tremors - typically a term used in conjunction with detoxing

> from alcohol and/or major drugs. However, it was used in this context as a

> joke. > <snip>

> Jaxi

>

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March 16, 2011

Donna,

It isn't the amount of gluten, any amount causes damage. People used to die young long before wheat growing in Northern climates caused higher levels of gluten.

There is a lot of research. No one should eat gluten grains if they wish to be healthy. It is actually the gliadin that causes the damage.

There is more and more research on this.Nonie

iodine From: Donna@...Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:53:29 -0500Subject: RE: Re: Iodine..who has truly benefited?

Because we love nice, highly risen bread, they have bred wheat to have a much higher gluten content than the original varieties had. That leads to too much gluten, which can cause damage. We make our homemade bread with spelt, because the gluten content is much lower. It works well!

Donna in IL

Good grief!! I am just so confused by all of this information. I was under the impression that whole wheat was better for you and to skip the white bread. What kind of bread is good for you? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I too am interested in hearing from those who have Hashi's and take iodine. I've read conflicting opinions...some swear it's the answer and some say no. I've experienced a lowering of my antibodies since giving up wheat 9 months ago and would like to see them even lower than the 300 they fell to. Just a bit on the fence about iodine but with the radiation factor looks like I'll be giving it a go regardless!> > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > Janet> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Peary,> > > > > > I started taking iodine in June 2008. Within six weeks I had got rid of the breast tenderness that I had had for over 20 years. I had just about tried everything short of a masectomy. > > > > > > I got rid of my heart flutters which were going at about 1-2 per day.> > > > > > After a long period of not much happening in october 2010 my TPO antithyroid antibodies went back down below alert level and the other ones (can't remember the right name) are going down too. > > > > > > I can no longer feel the 5 by 1 cm cyst that I had in my right breast. It is still there but it has definately shrunk. It has been growing for eight years.> > > > > > My mother died of breast cancer in both breasts. I think iodine has saved my life. My health closely resembled my mothers pre-cancer health history. Iodine has sorted out my Hashimoto's disease and my fibrocystic breast disease.> > > > > > My advice if you have reservations is to start low and work up. Don't ever forget to take your selenium.> > > > > > MacGilchrist> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/> > > > > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

March 16, 2011

Yes, and DT's stands for " delirium tremors " , I believe (1st husband was an

alcoholic and I became familiar with such terms...)

It's the real bad physical withdrawl, complete with shaking, that they can have

when they suddenly quit the alcohol.

> > >

> > > All gluten intolerance does not manifest as celiac disease. I

> > > wouldn't bother with the test. You can still have a problem with

> > > gluten without testing positive for celiac.

> > >

> > > Hate to say it, but it is probably a good idea to go gluten-free for

> > > a while, & see how you feel (once you are done with the DTs. Joke.)

> > >

> > > Anne

>

March 17, 2011

The great milk debate rages on!Raw milk is significantly different from homogenized, pasteurized milk; organic milk is significantly different from commercial milk; grass fed milk is significantly different from grain fed milk; milk from Jersey ( & other traditional) cows is significantly different from the Holstein & other breeds used by most modern dairies. So I believe that raw, organic, grass fed, Jersey milk is good food, & pasteurized, homogenized, grain fed Holstein milk full of hormones is bad for you. But there is a lot of disagreement on that point, with high passions on both sides.AnneOn Mar 16, 2011, at 10:30 PM, AlinaN wrote: Hi Nonie, What about raw milk? Is it bad as well and why? I follow Weston Price Foundation dietary guidelines and they seem to love raw dairy. Many cultures around the world have traditionally consumed milk and were healthy. Thank you Alina > > > Grains are not really healthy. Avoid bread. Wheat, like, soy , has been touted as healthy.."the staff of life", but, it causes destruction of the gut and leads to auto-immune diseases...cancer, arthritis, thyroiditis, ms, ibs, etc. One of the reasons it is so difficult to stop is, just like dairy, it causes morphine like substances in the body..hard addiction! > > There is a lot of scientific info from Dr. Zagon's research. > > Nonie > > >

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