Re: confused and need help

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Hello Joy,

Are you taking the companion nutrients? Please read the New Member doc., and your questions will be answered. You were sent the New Member doc. when you joined; if you didn't save it, then go to FILES and then New Member doc, read first. Thank you. Kathleen

confused and need help

Has any one ever have severe detox symtoms after only two days on 12.5 iodine plus? Should I take the iodine every other day ? How long does detox last? Should i do a cleanse before I continue?joy

[Guest guest]

Would just like to add that yes, detox symptoms can occur with even one or two

doses for some but others may need to get to much higher doses before that

happens.

>

> Hello Joy,

> Are you taking the companion nutrients? Please read the New Member doc., and

your questions will be answered. You were sent the New Member doc. when you

joined; if you didn't save it, then go to FILES and then New Member doc, read

first. Thank you. Kathleen

> confused and need help

>

>

>

> Has any one ever have severe detox symtoms after only two days on 12.5

iodine plus? Should I take the iodine every other day ?

>

> How long does detox last? Should i do a cleanse before I continue?

>

> joy

>

[Guest guest]

What symptoms are you experiencing?

Pamela

>

> Has any one ever have severe detox symtoms after only two days on 12.5 iodine

plus? Should I take the iodine every other day ?

>

> How long does detox last? Should i do a cleanse before I continue?

>

> joy

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Pamela,

The symtoms I have are shaking all over, anxiety, insomnia, stressed out over

nothing, migraine headaches, and body aches. I start a new job tomorrow so I

stopped the iodine. I just purchased the supplements so I will start back up

soon.(crossing my fingers)

I just wondered if my system was extra messed up.

joy

> >

> > Has any one ever have severe detox symtoms after only two days on 12.5

iodine plus? Should I take the iodine every other day ?

> >

> > How long does detox last? Should i do a cleanse before I continue?

> >

> > joy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi joy,

I just got up to 12.5 mg a few days ago and within two or three days had mild

air hunger. The last time I took it, I had significant air hunger and anxiety

at 20-15 mg. I stopped it then and stopped it day before yesterday, too. I am

going to try it again tomorrow. I experienced some positive benefits, too, so

want to give it a chance to work.

You might want to reduce your dose a little bit (did you build up to 12.5 or

start there) or take a few days off then try again.

Pamela

> > >

> > > Has any one ever have severe detox symtoms after only two days on 12.5

iodine plus? Should I take the iodine every other day ?

> > >

> > > How long does detox last? Should i do a cleanse before I continue?

> > >

> > > joy

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,If you were taking the iodine without the supporting supplements, than that could easily be contributing to the severe symptoms and headache not going away. And make sure you take plenty of the magnesium! Do you move your bowels more than once a day? That may be crucial to getting the toxins out of your body. You could also try baths with 1 cup Epsom salts and 1 cup hydrogen peroxide. Donna in IL Hi Pamela,The symtoms I have are shaking all over, anxiety, insomnia, stressed out over nothing, migraine headaches, and body aches. I start a new job tomorrow so I stopped the iodine. I just purchased the supplements so I will start back up soon.(crossing my fingers)I just wondered if my system was extra messed up. joy> >> > Has any one ever have severe detox symtoms after only two days on 12.5 iodine plus? Should I take the iodine every other day ? > > > > How long does detox last? Should i do a cleanse before I continue?> > > > joy> >>

[Guest guest]

What is air hunger?

It sounds like something that has happened with me since starting iodine &

supplements.

Is it the Iodine that causes it?

Thanks!

> > > >

> > > > Has any one ever have severe detox symtoms after only two days on 12.5

iodine plus? Should I take the iodine every other day ?

> > > >

> > > > How long does detox last? Should i do a cleanse before I continue?

> > > >

> > > > joy

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It's where you find yourself trying to catch your breath for no reason at all.

You haven't exerted yourself; you just can't get a deep, satisfying breath no

matter how you try.

I've been told it's a detox symptom.

Pamels

>

> What is air hunger?

>

> It sounds like something that has happened with me since starting iodine &

supplements.

>

> Is it the Iodine that causes it?

>

> Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, let's do maintain the distinction between taking iodine and

experiencing detox symptoms. The iodine itself does not cause symptoms--

it is an essential nutrient that the body hungers for. However, the iodine

kicks bromides off the cell receptors (that rightfully belong to iodine),

and the bromides then are circulating freely in the body, and the bromides

are what cause the symptoms.

It is a very important distinction, because the treatment and alleviation

is in paying attention to the fact of it being bromide detox.

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At 01:12 AM 3/19/2011, you wrote:

>It's where you find yourself trying to catch your breath for no reason at

>all. You haven't exerted yourself; you just can't get a deep, satisfying

>breath no matter how you try.

>

>I've been told it's a detox symptom.

>

>Pamels

>

>

> >

> > What is air hunger?

> >

> > It sounds like something that has happened with me since starting

> iodine & supplements.

> >

> > Is it the Iodine that causes it?

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

iodine doesn't "cause" air hunger. it might mean that a higher dose

is needed to deal with symptoms.

Gracia

On 3/19/2011 12:42 AM, wrote:

What is air hunger?

It sounds like something that has happened with me since

starting iodine & supplements.

Is it the Iodine that causes it?

Thanks!

> >

> > Hi Pamela,

> >

> > The symtoms I have are shaking all over,

anxiety, insomnia, stressed out over nothing, migraine

headaches, and body aches. I start a new job tomorrow so I

stopped the iodine. I just purchased the supplements so I

will start back up soon.(crossing my fingers)

> >

> > I just wondered if my system was extra messed

up.

> >

> > joy

> >

> > -

[Guest guest]

Air hunger can be caused by dehydration, acidosis, or high sodium/calcium in cells. high cell calcium constricts air passages.

It can be seen in those with adrenal disease and or thyroid issues- which will cause all of the for mentioned.

Magnesium is a calcium antagonist and can relax constricted airways. A pinch of salt in your drinking water helps with "keeping" your water. The thyroid controls calcium body balance.

[Guest guest]

Magnesium. I have not been taking this supplement as I should because the

tablet is large and lodges in my throat because of whatever it is that has

accumulated there for the last couple of years. Can I crush it and take it in

juice? I know many people recommend magnesium oil for trans-dermal absorption

but I cannot afford it right now unless somebody knows of an awesome deal.

Pamela

>

> Air hunger can be caused by dehydration, acidosis, or high sodium/calcium in

cells. high cell calcium constricts air passages.

> It can be seen in those with adrenal disease and or thyroid issues- which will

cause all of the for mentioned.

>

> Magnesium is a calcium antagonist and can relax constricted airways. A pinch

of salt in your drinking water helps with " keeping " your water. The thyroid

controls calcium body balance.

>

[Guest guest]

swansons mag oil is very reasonable and lastsyou can also get mag in powder form I believeJaxiOn Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Pamela <prov31mom23@...> wrote:

Magnesium.  I have not been taking this supplement as I should because the tablet is large and lodges in my throat because of whatever it is that has accumulated there for the last couple of years.  Can I crush it and take it in juice?  I know many people recommend magnesium oil for trans-dermal absorption but I cannot afford it right now unless somebody knows of an awesome deal.

Pamela

>

> Air hunger can be caused by dehydration, acidosis, or high sodium/calcium in cells. high cell calcium constricts air passages.

> It can be seen in those with adrenal disease and or thyroid issues- which will cause all of the for mentioned.

>

> Magnesium is a calcium antagonist and can relax constricted airways. A pinch of salt in your drinking water helps with " keeping " your water. The thyroid controls calcium body balance.

>

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[Guest guest]

Lifetime makes a liquid mag/malate that is very good. Perhaps you go that route.

In Carolyn Dean's book the Magnesium Miracle, she says that calcium NEEDS mag to

dissolve. When we're deficient (and most of us are) then calcium forms hard

deposits in your organs, tissues and veins. This causes asthma, frequent

urination, plaque in your arteries, and a myriad of other ailments. Quite

fascinating to read. I completely and fully, went off of anti depressants and

anti anxiety when I started the higher doses of mag. I also never went back to

the chiropractor, accupuncturist or massage therapy because all of my body

pain/tightness was gone.

> >

> > Air hunger can be caused by dehydration, acidosis, or high sodium/calcium in

cells. high cell calcium constricts air passages.

> > It can be seen in those with adrenal disease and or thyroid issues- which

will cause all of the for mentioned.

> >

> > Magnesium is a calcium antagonist and can relax constricted airways. A pinch

of salt in your drinking water helps with " keeping " your water. The thyroid

controls calcium body balance.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Natural Calm is a powdered magnesium supplement, which you mix with hot water. (It bubbles up high, so use a large mug.) I add a bit of honey to even their flavored varieties -- it is like drinking hot lemonade.AnneOn Mar 22, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Pamela wrote:

Magnesium. I have not been taking this supplement as I should because the tablet is large and lodges in my throat because of whatever it is that has accumulated there for the last couple of years. Can I crush it and take it in juice? I know many people recommend magnesium oil for trans-dermal absorption but I cannot afford it right now unless somebody knows of an awesome deal.

Pamela

>

> Air hunger can be caused by dehydration, acidosis, or high sodium/calcium in cells. high cell calcium constricts air passages.

> It can be seen in those with adrenal disease and or thyroid issues- which will cause all of the for mentioned.

>

> Magnesium is a calcium antagonist and can relax constricted airways. A pinch of salt in your drinking water helps with "keeping" your water. The thyroid controls calcium body balance.

>

[Guest guest]

Being on the iodine protocol and supporting adrenals, etc. certainly requires

lots of pill taking for me. I too have the constricted throat problem from time

to time and getting pills stuck in there is scary and painful. Unfortunately

magnesium in the more useful formulations is going to be a big pill/capsule for

any reasonable dose. I have determined that swallowing the larger pills with

some well-chewed food is MUCH easier than doing so with a liquid, at least for

me. What I mean is I chew up some food completely, then I pop in the pill and

swallow the whole deal. Using that method, I almost never have a real problem

anymore. Of course that means I am taking said pills with food, which may not

work for your routine.

> > >

> > > Air hunger can be caused by dehydration, acidosis, or high sodium/calcium

in cells. high cell calcium constricts air passages.

> > > It can be seen in those with adrenal disease and or thyroid issues- which

will cause all of the for mentioned.

> > >

> > > Magnesium is a calcium antagonist and can relax constricted airways. A

pinch of salt in your drinking water helps with " keeping " your water. The

thyroid controls calcium body balance.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Pam,

I can't swallow my magnesium tablets either, so I chew them and wash them down

with liquid or food. There's a yuck factor there, but I got used to it after a

few days.

You can also mix 1/3 teaspoon of epsom salts (magnesium sulphate) in 2 teaspoons

of your favorite skin lotion, stir it with your finger until it dissolves, and

then apply it to your skin -- that quantity of epsom salts is about 1 gram,

which has 100 mg of elemental magnesium in it. It's absorbed through the skin

readily. Dirt cheap and it works! It's even better if you make your own cream or

lotion, to avoid unnecessary chemicals. I found that on the site of Dr.

Myhill in the UK. The page includes simple recipes.

http://drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Minerals_and_vitamins_in_creams

Good luck!

.

> >

> > Air hunger can be caused by dehydration, acidosis, or high sodium/calcium in

cells. high cell calcium constricts air passages.

> > It can be seen in those with adrenal disease and or thyroid issues- which

will cause all of the for mentioned.

> >

> > Magnesium is a calcium antagonist and can relax constricted airways. A pinch

of salt in your drinking water helps with " keeping " your water. The thyroid

controls calcium body balance.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Pamela,www.vitacost.com has liquid magnesium chloride, not oil, it is just like water, add it to something and drink it. Donna in IL From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of PamelaSent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 11:19 AMiodine Subject: Re: confused and need help Magnesium. I have not been taking this supplement as I should because the tablet is large and lodges in my throat because of whatever it is that has accumulated there for the last couple of years. Can I crush it and take it in juice? I know many people recommend magnesium oil for trans-dermal absorption but I cannot afford it right now unless somebody knows of an awesome deal.Pamela>> Air hunger can be caused by dehydration, acidosis, or high sodium/calcium in cells. high cell calcium constricts air passages. > It can be seen in those with adrenal disease and or thyroid issues- which will cause all of the for mentioned.> > Magnesium is a calcium antagonist and can relax constricted airways. A pinch of salt in your drinking water helps with " keeping " your water. The thyroid controls calcium body balance.>

[Guest guest]

The awesome deal for magnesium oil is on Swanson's, they have a house brand

of mag oil that is inexpensive. It is from the same source as the

expensive stuff.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/Search?keyword=magnesium+oil & doSearch=true & ntt= & n\

=0 & ntk=Level1 & x=0 & y=0

They have 8 oz bottles as well as the 1/2 gal.

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At 02:04 PM 3/22/2011, you wrote:

>Hey Pam,

>I can't swallow my magnesium tablets either, so I chew them and wash them

>down with liquid or food. There's a yuck factor there, but I got used to

>it after a few days.

>You can also mix 1/3 teaspoon of epsom salts (magnesium sulphate) in 2

>teaspoons of your favorite skin lotion, stir it with your finger until it

>dissolves, and then apply it to your skin -- that quantity of epsom salts

>is about 1 gram, which has 100 mg of elemental magnesium in it. It's

>absorbed through the skin readily. Dirt cheap and it works! It's even

>better if you make your own cream or lotion, to avoid unnecessary

>chemicals. I found that on the site of Dr. Myhill in the UK. The

>page includes simple recipes.

>http://drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Minerals_and_vitamins_in_creams

>

>Good luck!

>.

>

>

> > >

> > > Air hunger can be caused by dehydration, acidosis, or high

> sodium/calcium in cells. high cell calcium constricts air passages.

> > > It can be seen in those with adrenal disease and or thyroid issues-

> which will cause all of the for mentioned.

> > >

> > > Magnesium is a calcium antagonist and can relax constricted airways.

> A pinch of salt in your drinking water helps with " keeping " your water.

> The thyroid controls calcium body balance.

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

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>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

>group IodineOT/

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>Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

The advantage of mag oil is that it can be applied externally, thus

bypassing the gut. It's the only way I can take a mag supplement, all

other forms of mag create gut issues for me, unfortunately. Anyway, I

think highly unusual for anyone to DRINK mag oil, it's meant to external

application.

Not that someone can't, but that's not usually the reason for using it.

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>Hi Pamela,

><http://www.vitacost.com>www.vitacost.com has liquid magnesium chloride,

>not oil, it is just like water, add it to something and drink it.

>

>Donna in IL

>

>From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of

>Pamela

>Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 11:19 AM

>iodine

>Subject: Re: confused and need help

>

>

>

>Magnesium. I have not been taking this supplement as I should because the

>tablet is large and lodges in my throat because of whatever it is that has

>accumulated there for the last couple of years. Can I crush it and take it

>in juice? I know many people recommend magnesium oil for trans-dermal

>absorption but I cannot afford it right now unless somebody knows of an

>awesome deal.

>

>Pamela

>

>

> >

> > Air hunger can be caused by dehydration, acidosis, or high

> sodium/calcium in cells. high cell calcium constricts air passages.

> > It can be seen in those with adrenal disease and or thyroid issues-

> which will cause all of the for mentioned.

> >

> > Magnesium is a calcium antagonist and can relax constricted airways. A

> pinch of salt in your drinking water helps with " keeping " your water. The

> thyroid controls calcium body balance.

> >

>

>

>

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

Hi , Please look at the product I stated from vitacost. It is not mag oil, it is liquid mag chloride. I own both mag oil and this product, and this liquid magnesium chloride is made for consumption. http://www.vitacost.com/NutriCology-Magnesium-Chloride-Liquid Donna in IL The advantage of mag oil is that it can be applied externally, thus bypassing the gut. It's the only way I can take a mag supplement, all other forms of mag create gut issues for me, unfortunately. Anyway, I think highly unusual for anyone to DRINK mag oil, it's meant to external application.Not that someone can't, but that's not usually the reason for using it.-->Hi Pamela,><http://www.vitacost.com>www.vitacost.com has liquid magnesium chloride, >not oil, it is just like water, add it to something and drink it.>>Donna in IL>>From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of >Pamela>Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 11:19 AM>iodine >Subject: Re: confused and need help>>>>Magnesium. I have not been taking this supplement as I should because the >tablet is large and lodges in my throat because of whatever it is that has >accumulated there for the last couple of years. Can I crush it and take it >in juice? I know many people recommend magnesium oil for trans-dermal >absorption but I cannot afford it right now unless somebody knows of an >awesome deal.>>Pamela>>> >> > Air hunger can be caused by dehydration, acidosis, or high > sodium/calcium in cells. high cell calcium constricts air passages.> > It can be seen in those with adrenal disease and or thyroid issues- > which will cause all of the for mentioned.> >> > Magnesium is a calcium antagonist and can relax constricted airways. A > pinch of salt in your drinking water helps with " keeping " your water. The > thyroid controls calcium body balance.> >>>>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

Sorry Donna! I got mixed up. Nevermind!

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At 04:07 PM 3/22/2011, you wrote:

>Hi ,

>

>Please look at the product I stated from vitacost. It is not mag oil, it

>is liquid mag chloride. I own both mag oil and this product, and this

>liquid magnesium chloride is made for consumption.

>

><http://www.vitacost.com/NutriCology-Magnesium-Chloride-Liquid>http://www.vitac\

ost.com/NutriCology-Magnesium-Chloride-Liquid

>

>Donna in IL

>

>

>

>The advantage of mag oil is that it can be applied externally, thus

>bypassing the gut. It's the only way I can take a mag supplement, all

>other forms of mag create gut issues for me, unfortunately. Anyway, I

>think highly unusual for anyone to DRINK mag oil, it's meant to external

>application.

>

>Not that someone can't, but that's not usually the reason for using it.

>

>--

>

> >Hi Pamela,

> ><<http://www.vitacost.com>http://www.vitacost.com>www.vitacost.com has

> liquid magnesium chloride,

> >not oil, it is just like water, add it to something and drink it.

> >

> >Donna in IL

> >

> >From: <mailto:iodine%40>iodine

> [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of

> >Pamela

> >Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 11:19 AM

> ><mailto:iodine%40>iodine

> >Subject: Re: confused and need help

> >

> >

> >

> >Magnesium. I have not been taking this supplement as I should because the

> >tablet is large and lodges in my throat because of whatever it is that has

> >accumulated there for the last couple of years. Can I crush it and take it

> >in juice? I know many people recommend magnesium oil for trans-dermal

> >absorption but I cannot afford it right now unless somebody knows of an

> >awesome deal.

> >

> >Pamela

> >

> >--- In

>

<mailto:iodine%40><mailto:iodine%40>iodine@gr\

oups.com,

> " Gail

> >Buchmann & qu

>

>

>

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

I do not know how bioavailable magnesium citrate is--I think it is ok-- but I

have ten bottles that I bought for a dollar each. A teaspoon of the fizzy lemony

stuff has about 300mgs magnesium. I take a couple big swigs every day!

Marcy

> > >

> > > Air hunger can be caused by dehydration, acidosis, or high sodium/calcium

in cells. high cell calcium constricts air passages.

> > > It can be seen in those with adrenal disease and or thyroid issues- which

will cause all of the for mentioned.

> > >

> > > Magnesium is a calcium antagonist and can relax constricted airways. A

pinch of salt in your drinking water helps with " keeping " your water. The

thyroid controls calcium body balance.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

That's quite interesting. What anti-depressants were you taking and how much?

My husband has been taking prozac for a couple of years and I wish he'd get off

it. How much magnesium (and what form) do you take? Is the magnesium oil a

true oil? Is it slippery? Could I use it to give my husband back rubs?

Pamela

> > >

> > > Air hunger can be caused by dehydration, acidosis, or high sodium/calcium

in cells. high cell calcium constricts air passages.

> > > It can be seen in those with adrenal disease and or thyroid issues- which

will cause all of the for mentioned.

> > >

> > > Magnesium is a calcium antagonist and can relax constricted airways. A

pinch of salt in your drinking water helps with " keeping " your water. The

thyroid controls calcium body balance.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

That's cool! I have the epsom salts so might try that. Perhaps I'll mix it

with coconut oil since I like that as a skin conditioner anyway.

Pamela

> > >

> > > Air hunger can be caused by dehydration, acidosis, or high sodium/calcium

in cells. high cell calcium constricts air passages.

> > > It can be seen in those with adrenal disease and or thyroid issues- which

will cause all of the for mentioned.

> > >

> > > Magnesium is a calcium antagonist and can relax constricted airways. A

pinch of salt in your drinking water helps with " keeping " your water. The

thyroid controls calcium body balance.

> > >

> >

>