Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 What bothers me is that many people ended up footing the bill by losing their jobs and then losing their insurance and pension benefits. 25 million sounds like a lot of money, but this is lower Manhattan we are talking about, one of the most densely populated area in the US, I'd guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 I was watching the news tonight and they had a thing about vaccines. I thought I would post the link so if anyone else would like to see it also on the sight they have a download of what a court in land ruling on the link between autism and vaccines. The address is www.kdka.com and it would be under health. Hope you find it informative. Jo Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Ah, interesting, my grandma died of lung cancer. On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 4:10 PM, who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: > 3 major studies have deturmined that genetics deturmine who will get > lung cancer from smoking or not. something about protiens that bind to > nicotene. humm, pretty interesting. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 > > > 3 major studies have deturmined that genetics deturmine who will get > > lung cancer from smoking or not. something about protiens that bind to > > nicotene. humm, pretty interesting. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 The problems with such studies is that the distract the public with the profitable notion that some are genetically defective and that the human body was built to withstand poisons. It was built to withstand the kinds of poisons it produces in activities of homeostasis and some margin above that. Anyone who was living as a healthy individual prior to exposure and disability from poisoning, was normal. If they have certain normal variations in genetic code, it may make them prey to particular effects e.g. lung cancer. However, those studies ought to tell people without that genetic variant that they could still be prey to hypertension, cardiac arrest, stroke, diabetes, cancers of other organs from irritant levels (e.g. mouth), COPD.....etc. In the end, poisons poison - the kind of harm done may be related to certain characteristics but what difference does it make if you get Parkinsons versus Multiple Sclerosis because you were forced to live in a toxic environment? Lets keep the genetics issue in perspective because industry profits from the implications to the public: YOU are defective, not their products. Barb Rubin ========================== > > > 3 major studies have deturmined that genetics deturmine who will get > > lung cancer from smoking or not. something about protiens that bind to > > nicotene. humm, pretty interesting. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 My mother in law smoked 3 packs of lucky strikes a day. She died from stomach cancer, here lungs were fine. Her husband died from lung cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 How true. The powers would have do as the saying goes: " rail at a gnat and swallow a camel " . agasaya <agasaya@...> wrote: Lets keep the genetics issue in perspective because industry profits from the implications to the public: YOU are defective, not their products. --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 when it comes to toxin exposure it's all about the type and the dose. and when it comes to smoking, it's all about the dose and it takes years and years for effecys of smoking if any, to cause lung cancer and who's to say some other exposures weren't also involved. now theres some toxins that do change dna. toxins can be passed through the womb. there's many ways a persoms genitics can change some time during their life. they had 2 brothers, both smoked 3 packs a day, one got cancer, one didn't. I know a lady the was raised liveing over a bar and worked in it her whole life, never smoked but died of lung cancer. this is not all that cut and dry. and if we are talking about genetics that come into play with the immune system than I dont think science even knows all those answers yet. yes I agree that with toxin exposure a certain levels or even long term at low exposure well hurt anyone. but for some genetics do make them less resistant. and not all chemicals are considered toxic as in their strength but may still cause effects ib a long term situation, as some irritents with chronic exposure can lead to the body attacking itself,autoimmunity. > > The problems with such studies is that the distract the public with > the profitable notion that some are genetically defective and that > the human body was built to withstand poisons. > > It was built to withstand the kinds of poisons it produces in > activities of homeostasis and some margin above that. Anyone who was > living as a healthy individual prior to exposure and disability from > poisoning, was normal. If they have certain normal variations in > genetic code, it may make them prey to particular effects e.g. lung > cancer. However, those studies ought to tell people without that > genetic variant that they could still be prey to hypertension, > cardiac arrest, stroke, diabetes, cancers of other organs from > irritant levels (e.g. mouth), COPD.....etc. > > In the end, poisons poison - the kind of harm done may be related to > certain characteristics but what difference does it make if you get > Parkinsons versus Multiple Sclerosis because you were forced to live > in a toxic environment? > > Lets keep the genetics issue in perspective because industry profits > from the implications to the public: YOU are defective, not their > products. > > Barb Rubin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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