Re: 2 questions: niacin and sski

[Guest guest]

>1. I have read all the documents and did not see niacin mentioned as part

>of the protocol. How much niacin is recommended in the iodine protocol?

Niacin is optional. Here is info:

Niacin 500 mg (B3) twice a day. (NOT niacinamide) Start lower to avoid flush.

or no flush Inositol Hexanicotinate

Vitamin B2 100 mg three times a day.

These two are also in a combo that Optimox the makers of Iodoral make

called ATP cofactors.

>2. On 's discussion of SSKI, he says it can shut down the

>thyroid. Is this true or is this the same misinformation as with iodine

>and thyroid?

Dr is excellent on a lot of things but he's in the dark ages about

iodine, judging by this. Iodine does NOT shut down the thyroid, no matter

who says it. This myth, a lie that is seriously injuring human health all

over the world, is based on the long-debunked " Wolff-Chaikoff Effect " which

never existed, was completely made up of whole cloth, and has been

thoroughly debunked. Any statements that iodine can hurt the thyroid are

based on this lie, and it's still taught in med school so it's not

surprising that docs still believe it, but it's simply not factual.

--V

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

Niacin is in the ATP CoFactors Product - www.optimox.com It is not part of the protocol unless you continue to have fatigue after taking iodine. It seems to help those with Hashi's by giving more energy but it doesn't work for all.

Dr. is wrong. There is no way to "shut down" the thyroid other than RAI treatments and that is killing it.

2 questions: niacin and sski

1. I have read all the documents and did not see niacin mentioned as part of the protocol. How much niacin is recommended in the iodine protocol?2. On 's discussion of SSKI, he says it can shut down the thyroid. Is this true or is this the same misinformation as with iodine and thyroid?

[Guest guest]

i take niacin in place of statins but not riboflavin. will check into that. i do take low dose iodine and the other vitamins. diane, near philly, pa On Jan 1, 2011, at 10:41 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote:Niacin is in the ATP CoFactors Product - www.optimox.com It is not part of the protocol unless you continue to have fatigue after taking iodine. It seems to help those with Hashi's by giving more energy but it doesn't work for all. Dr. is wrong. There is no way to "shut down" the thyroid other than RAI treatments and that is killing it. 2 questions: niacin and sski 1. I have read all the documents and did not see niacin mentioned as part of the protocol. How much niacin is recommended in the iodine protocol?2. On 's discussion of SSKI, he says it can shut down the thyroid. Is this true or is this the same misinformation as with iodine and thyroid?

[Guest guest]

I'm hypothyroid. Your mention that niacin can help those with hashi's caught my

eye. It does seem to help me energy-wise. If I feel a little dull it can kind of

perk me up so to speak. I have no idea why.

All of the best,

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> Niacin is in the ATP CoFactors Product - www.optimox.com It is not part of

the protocol unless you continue to have fatigue after taking iodine. It seems

to help those with Hashi's by giving more energy but it doesn't work for all.

>

> Dr. is wrong. There is no way to " shut down " the thyroid other than

RAI treatments and that is killing it.

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> 2 questions: niacin and sski

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> 1. I have read all the documents and did not see niacin mentioned as part of

the protocol. How much niacin is recommended in the iodine protocol?

>

> 2. On 's discussion of SSKI, he says it can shut down the

thyroid. Is this true or is this the same misinformation as with iodine and

thyroid?

>

[Guest guest]

SSKI is what they gave me to help lower my thyroid hormone output as I was going

into Thyroid Storm. SSKI is NOT a combination of elemental iodine and potassium

iodide. Lugols and Iodoral are --and from what I have read the combination

works better.

I was misled into RAI for Graves Disease (hyPerthyroidism) From my research I

believe Lugols would have fixed my thyroid. I would have taken L Carnitine to

slow my thyroid down. I mean my thyroid was iodine deficient.. so they gave me

iodine after they poisoned it. Then what was given to me when I had the thyroid

storm.. Iodine .. and that helped immeasurably.

Knowing what I now know there is NO way I would have consented to the barbaric

" nuking " of my thyroid.

Thanks to the Iodoral/Lugol's and the Iodine Protocol I am doing great.... but

my Pituitary Gland is not functioning as a side effect from the radioactive

iodine. I just count my blessing that I did not get more of the other side

effects the doctors " failed " to mention in their rush to " fix " me.

Thyroid Eye Disease has occurred up to 20 years after RAI.. I hope to avoid

that.. but am I home free yet?--- Not in my opinion.

Glad you're here. Welcome:)

-Val

> 2. On 's discussion of SSKI, he says it can shut down the

thyroid. Is this true or is this the same misinformation as with iodine and

thyroid?

[Guest guest]

Thank you. Re. Dr. , this information about SSKI shutting down the thyroid

is in the new member section of documents so maybe that should be deleted. It is

very confusing.

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> Niacin is in the ATP CoFactors Product - www.optimox.com It is not part of

the protocol unless you continue to have fatigue after taking iodine. It seems

to help those with Hashi's by giving more energy but it doesn't work for all.

>

> Dr. is wrong. There is no way to " shut down " the thyroid other than

RAI treatments and that is killing it.

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[Guest guest]

I took care of it.

Steph

Re: 2 questions: niacin and sski

Thank you. Re. Dr. , this information about SSKI shutting down the thyroid is in the new member section of documents so maybe that should be deleted. It is very confusing.>> Niacin is in the ATP CoFactors Product - www.optimox.com It is not part of the protocol unless you continue to have fatigue after taking iodine. It seems to help those with Hashi's by giving more energy but it doesn't work for all.> > Dr. is wrong. There is no way to "shut down" the thyroid other than RAI treatments and that is killing it.> >

[Guest guest]

Just to let people know, that unfortunately there are files on the website

that need to be removed. They were put there in the past when any

information on iodine was considered important, at a time when there was

very little information anywhere, and people interested in iodine therapy

were still very concerned about the scary warnings that are (still today)

everywhere. We know now that those warnings are based on a lie and are to

be ignored, and sources that give those warnings are not trusted sources on

the subject of iodine.

Since Steph became listowner and the state of our knowledge about the

iodine protocol has been refined, some of the material on the website is

obsolete and yes, confusing and wrong. We are working on taking down the

incorrect material, so if anyone finds anything like this, please do let us

know so that we can hasten this process.

I can be contacted offlist: vbaker@...

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At 12:55 PM 1/2/2011, you wrote:

>I took care of it.

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>Steph

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>Thank you. Re. Dr. , this information about SSKI shutting down the

>thyroid is in the new member section of documents so maybe that should be

>deleted. It is very confusing.

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> > Niacin is in the ATP CoFactors Product -

> <http://www.optimox.com>www.optimox.com It is not part of the protocol

> unless you continue to have fatigue after taking iodine. It seems to help

> those with Hashi's by giving more energy but it doesn't work for all.

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> > Dr. is wrong. There is no way to " shut down " the thyroid other

> than RAI treatments and that is killing it.

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~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

Val,You might consider taking pitutrophin PMG from standard process to perk your pituatary up. When mine was completely shut down that helped. Without the pituatary working none of the hormones work and even digestion is severely impacted. At least that was how my doctor noticed this before we did blood tests to confirm. None of the various chiropractor adjustments and devices and she had 6-10 of those worked either even tried repeatedly in last 3 years. Some worked for few days but didn't stick. This support helps my other hormones to function and digestion to normalize for me. Chiropractors and naturalpath drs often have standard process available. Pam

On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 9:48 PM, valmiller500 <valmiller500@...> wrote:

 

SSKI is what they gave me to help lower my thyroid hormone output as I was going into Thyroid Storm. SSKI is NOT a combination of elemental iodine and potassium iodide. Lugols and Iodoral are --and from what I have read the combination works better.

I was misled into RAI for Graves Disease (hyPerthyroidism) From my research I believe Lugols would have fixed my thyroid. I would have taken L Carnitine to slow my thyroid down. I mean my thyroid was iodine deficient.. so they gave me iodine after they poisoned it. Then what was given to me when I had the thyroid storm.. Iodine .. and that helped immeasurably.

Knowing what I now know there is NO way I would have consented to the barbaric " nuking " of my thyroid.

Thanks to the Iodoral/Lugol's and the Iodine Protocol I am doing great.... but my Pituitary Gland is not functioning as a side effect from the radioactive iodine. I just count my blessing that I did not get more of the other side effects the doctors " failed " to mention in their rush to " fix " me.

Thyroid Eye Disease has occurred up to 20 years after RAI.. I hope to avoid that.. but am I home free yet?--- Not in my opinion.

Glad you're here. Welcome:)

-Val

> 2. On 's discussion of SSKI, he says it can shut down the thyroid. Is this true or is this the same misinformation as with iodine and thyroid?

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much, Pam for that suggestion. I am feeling great thanks to the

Iodine and companion Nutrients and my other sups along with NatureThroid.

My doc (NOT an Endo) knows to take the Frees to see what my Thyroid is up

to.... since my TSH gives a suppressed reading due to the Pituitary Damage. and

since the TSH gives INcomplete data I rather like that they cant read it--Im

being ornery lol.

Val

> > > 2. On 's discussion of SSKI, he says it can shut down the

> > thyroid. Is this true or is this the same misinformation as with iodine and

> > thyroid?