Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Joy-- You have tincture there (contains alcohol). So don't take this product internally, but it's FINE externally. Obviously really helping you massively! Great report, thanks. -- At 10:50 AM 3/28/2011, you wrote: >[] > >Hey Gang... > >I looked at the iodine I purchased last year from Full Orchestra and it is >7% iodine ticture with some alcohol in it too. Is the alcohol in it typical? > >I have been using it by dabbing it on my breast skin mets and it has >pretty much dried them out and I have managed to peel off 3 of them.... >taking what appears to be the dried up skin met tumor leaving behind a >tiny indention of pink skin. > >I do have one large skin met that is taking more time to dry out for >peeling. The skin met peels in layers and I am going to keep it up until >I have pink skin where a skin mets was. I have read it takes 3 such >peelings to get all of the skin met off per instructions. > >It has been a full week of my self treating my skin mets this way....It >works great. It does sting, but no intolerably. > >I originally took a cotton ball and with medical tape, placed it over the >larger skin mets. Bad idea because it oozed iodine onto non-affected skin >and caused good skin to blister and peel. Although, now I have nice new >skin other places around my biggest skin met too. > >I realize now that the instructions to just dab the skin mets areas 10-20 >times a day and blowing it dry is the better way to go. > >I am also curious about how to dilute the 7 % solution I have too. I am >not a math person at all... > >Joy of Tallahassee... > > > " I see in the files that 2 drops of Lugol's 5% is about 12.5 mg iodine/iodide. > >I have the 7% solution from the full orchestra. Do I use straight math >(divide by 5, mulitply by 7) or " chemistry " math (which I don't know)? > >Straight math gives me 17.5 mg in 2 drops (8.75 mg in one drop). > > " > > > > >Jesus said, " A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved >you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are >my disciples, if you love one another. " > > 13:34-35 > >What Good Are You Denying Yourself? > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Hi Joy - congratulations! Can you use iodine on all forms of skin cancer or just mets?ArielOn Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:50 AM, rainbowjoye <RainbowJoye@...> wrote: Hey Gang... I looked at the iodine I purchased last year from Full Orchestra and it is 7% iodine ticture with some alcohol in it too. Is the alcohol in it typical? I have been using it by dabbing it on my breast skin mets and it has pretty much dried them out and I have managed to peel off 3 of them.... taking what appears to be the dried up skin met tumor leaving behind a tiny indention of pink skin. I do have one large skin met that is taking more time to dry out for peeling. The skin met peels in layers and I am going to keep it up until I have pink skin where a skin mets was. I have read it takes 3 such peelings to get all of the skin met off per instructions. It has been a full week of my self treating my skin mets this way....It works great. It does sting, but no intolerably. I originally took a cotton ball and with medical tape, placed it over the larger skin mets. Bad idea because it oozed iodine onto non-affected skin and caused good skin to blister and peel. Although, now I have nice new skin other places around my biggest skin met too. I realize now that the instructions to just dab the skin mets areas 10-20 times a day and blowing it dry is the better way to go. I am also curious about how to dilute the 7 % solution I have too. I am not a math person at all... Joy of Tallahassee... " I see in the files that 2 drops of Lugol's 5% is about 12.5 mg iodine/iodide.I have the 7% solution from the full orchestra. Do I use straight math (divide by 5, mulitply by 7) or " chemistry " math (which I don't know)? Straight math gives me 17.5 mg in 2 drops (8.75 mg in one drop). " Jesus said, " A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. " 13:34-35 What Good Are You Denying Yourself? -- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Don't take that tincture orally. It is made for outside the skin. You need to get Iodoral or Lugol's. Those are the internal iodines. from IllinoisFrom: Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...>iodine Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 1:14:57 PMSubject: Re: Iodine dried out my skin mets... just like I read about it... Hi Joy - congratulations! Can you use iodine on all forms of skin cancer or just mets?ArielOn Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:50 AM, rainbowjoye <RainbowJoye@...> wrote: Hey Gang... I looked at the iodine I purchased last year from Full Orchestra and it is 7% iodine ticture with some alcohol in it too. Is the alcohol in it typical? I have been using it by dabbing it on my breast skin mets and it has pretty much dried them out and I have managed to peel off 3 of them.... taking what appears to be the dried up skin met tumor leaving behind a tiny indention of pink skin. I do have one large skin met that is taking more time to dry out for peeling. The skin met peels in layers and I am going to keep it up until I have pink skin where a skin mets was. I have read it takes 3 such peelings to get all of the skin met off per instructions. It has been a full week of my self treating my skin mets this way....It works great. It does sting, but no intolerably. I originally took a cotton ball and with medical tape, placed it over the larger skin mets. Bad idea because it oozed iodine onto non-affected skin and caused good skin to blister and peel. Although, now I have nice new skin other places around my biggest skin met too. I realize now that the instructions to just dab the skin mets areas 10-20 times a day and blowing it dry is the better way to go. I am also curious about how to dilute the 7 % solution I have too. I am not a math person at all... Joy of Tallahassee... "I see in the files that 2 drops of Lugol's 5% is about 12.5 mg iodine/iodide.I have the 7% solution from the full orchestra. Do I use straight math (divide by 5, mulitply by 7) or "chemistry" math (which I don't know)? Straight math gives me 17.5 mg in 2 drops (8.75 mg in one drop)." Jesus said,"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." 13:34-35 What Good Are You Denying Yourself? -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring."-Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Yes, I do know that - what I'm asking is this: can you use iodine tincture EXTERNALLY to heal skin cancer lesions?Thank you,ArielOn Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:32 PM, DeNormandie <blessedark2010@...> wrote: Don't take that tincture orally. It is made for outside the skin. You need to get Iodoral or Lugol's. Those are the internal iodines. from Illinois From: Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...>iodine Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 1:14:57 PMSubject: Re: Iodine dried out my skin mets... just like I read about it... Hi Joy - congratulations! Can you use iodine on all forms of skin cancer or just mets?ArielOn Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:50 AM, rainbowjoye <RainbowJoye@...> wrote: Hey Gang... I looked at the iodine I purchased last year from Full Orchestra and it is 7% iodine ticture with some alcohol in it too. Is the alcohol in it typical? I have been using it by dabbing it on my breast skin mets and it has pretty much dried them out and I have managed to peel off 3 of them.... taking what appears to be the dried up skin met tumor leaving behind a tiny indention of pink skin. I do have one large skin met that is taking more time to dry out for peeling. The skin met peels in layers and I am going to keep it up until I have pink skin where a skin mets was. I have read it takes 3 such peelings to get all of the skin met off per instructions. It has been a full week of my self treating my skin mets this way....It works great. It does sting, but no intolerably. I originally took a cotton ball and with medical tape, placed it over the larger skin mets. Bad idea because it oozed iodine onto non-affected skin and caused good skin to blister and peel. Although, now I have nice new skin other places around my biggest skin met too. I realize now that the instructions to just dab the skin mets areas 10-20 times a day and blowing it dry is the better way to go. I am also curious about how to dilute the 7 % solution I have too. I am not a math person at all... Joy of Tallahassee... " I see in the files that 2 drops of Lugol's 5% is about 12.5 mg iodine/iodide.I have the 7% solution from the full orchestra. Do I use straight math (divide by 5, mulitply by 7) or " chemistry " math (which I don't know)? Straight math gives me 17.5 mg in 2 drops (8.75 mg in one drop). " Jesus said, " A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. " 13:34-35 What Good Are You Denying Yourself? -- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue -- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 dr simoncini uses iodine 7% against cancer,but he injects baking soda behind that candida will not enter the body. http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/protocol-skin-cancer.html On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> wrote: Yes, I do know that - what I'm asking is this: can you use iodine tincture EXTERNALLY to heal skin cancer lesions?Thank you,Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:32 PM, DeNormandie <blessedark2010@...> wrote: Don't take that tincture orally. It is made for outside the skin. You need to get Iodoral or Lugol's. Those are the internal iodines. from Illinois From: Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...>iodine Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 1:14:57 PMSubject: Re: Iodine dried out my skin mets... just like I read about it... Hi Joy - congratulations! Can you use iodine on all forms of skin cancer or just mets?Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:50 AM, rainbowjoye <RainbowJoye@...> wrote: Hey Gang... I looked at the iodine I purchased last year from Full Orchestra and it is 7% iodine ticture with some alcohol in it too. Is the alcohol in it typical? I have been using it by dabbing it on my breast skin mets and it has pretty much dried them out and I have managed to peel off 3 of them.... taking what appears to be the dried up skin met tumor leaving behind a tiny indention of pink skin. I do have one large skin met that is taking more time to dry out for peeling. The skin met peels in layers and I am going to keep it up until I have pink skin where a skin mets was. I have read it takes 3 such peelings to get all of the skin met off per instructions. It has been a full week of my self treating my skin mets this way....It works great. It does sting, but no intolerably. I originally took a cotton ball and with medical tape, placed it over the larger skin mets. Bad idea because it oozed iodine onto non-affected skin and caused good skin to blister and peel. Although, now I have nice new skin other places around my biggest skin met too. I realize now that the instructions to just dab the skin mets areas 10-20 times a day and blowing it dry is the better way to go. I am also curious about how to dilute the 7 % solution I have too. I am not a math person at all... Joy of Tallahassee... " I see in the files that 2 drops of Lugol's 5% is about 12.5 mg iodine/iodide.I have the 7% solution from the full orchestra. Do I use straight math (divide by 5, mulitply by 7) or " chemistry " math (which I don't know)? Straight math gives me 17.5 mg in 2 drops (8.75 mg in one drop). " Jesus said, " A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. " 13:34-35 What Good Are You Denying Yourself? -- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue -- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Yes you can. from IllinoisFrom: Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...>iodine Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 2:03:55 PMSubject: Re: Iodine dried out my skin mets... just like I read about it... Yes, I do know that - what I'm asking is this: can you use iodine tincture EXTERNALLY to heal skin cancer lesions?Thank you,ArielOn Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:32 PM, DeNormandie <blessedark2010@...> wrote: Don't take that tincture orally. It is made for outside the skin. You need to get Iodoral or Lugol's. Those are the internal iodines. from Illinois From: Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...>iodine Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 1:14:57 PMSubject: Re: Iodine dried out my skin mets... just like I read about it... Hi Joy - congratulations! Can you use iodine on all forms of skin cancer or just mets?ArielOn Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:50 AM, rainbowjoye <RainbowJoye@...> wrote: Hey Gang... I looked at the iodine I purchased last year from Full Orchestra and it is 7% iodine ticture with some alcohol in it too. Is the alcohol in it typical? I have been using it by dabbing it on my breast skin mets and it has pretty much dried them out and I have managed to peel off 3 of them.... taking what appears to be the dried up skin met tumor leaving behind a tiny indention of pink skin. I do have one large skin met that is taking more time to dry out for peeling. The skin met peels in layers and I am going to keep it up until I have pink skin where a skin mets was. I have read it takes 3 such peelings to get all of the skin met off per instructions. It has been a full week of my self treating my skin mets this way....It works great. It does sting, but no intolerably. I originally took a cotton ball and with medical tape, placed it over the larger skin mets. Bad idea because it oozed iodine onto non-affected skin and caused good skin to blister and peel. Although, now I have nice new skin other places around my biggest skin met too. I realize now that the instructions to just dab the skin mets areas 10-20 times a day and blowing it dry is the better way to go. I am also curious about how to dilute the 7 % solution I have too. I am not a math person at all... Joy of Tallahassee... "I see in the files that 2 drops of Lugol's 5% is about 12.5 mg iodine/iodide.I have the 7% solution from the full orchestra. Do I use straight math (divide by 5, mulitply by 7) or "chemistry" math (which I don't know)? Straight math gives me 17.5 mg in 2 drops (8.75 mg in one drop)." Jesus said,"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." 13:34-35 What Good Are You Denying Yourself? -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring."-Tom Donohue -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring."-Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 I believe Dr.Simoncini uses 7% Lugol's solution -- not iodine *tincture.* This is not to say iodine tincture won't work -- only that no one of prominence seems to have claimed that it can. On 3/28/2011 12:09 PM, ido zahavi wrote: dr simoncini uses iodine 7% against cancer,but he injects baking soda behind that candida will not enter the body. http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/protocol-skin-cancer.html On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> wrote: Yes, I do know that - what I'm asking is this: can you use iodine tincture EXTERNALLY to heal skin cancer lesions? Thank you, Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:32 PM, DeNormandie <blessedark2010@...> wrote: Don't take that tincture orally. It is made for outside the skin. You need to get Iodoral or Lugol's. Those are the internal iodines. from Illinois From: Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> iodine Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 1:14:57 PM Subject: Re: Iodine dried out my skin mets... just like I read about it... Hi Joy - congratulations! Can you use iodine on all forms of skin cancer or just mets? Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:50 AM, rainbowjoye <RainbowJoye@...> wrote: Hey Gang... I looked at the iodine I purchased last year from Full Orchestra and it is 7% iodine ticture with some alcohol in it too. Is the alcohol in it typical? I have been using it by dabbing it on my breast skin mets and it has pretty much dried them out and I have managed to peel off 3 of them.... taking what appears to be the dried up skin met tumor leaving behind a tiny indention of pink skin. I do have one large skin met that is taking more time to dry out for peeling. The skin met peels in layers and I am going to keep it up until I have pink skin where a skin mets was. I have read it takes 3 such peelings to get all of the skin met off per instructions. It has been a full week of my self treating my skin mets this way....It works great. It does sting, but no intolerably. I originally took a cotton ball and with medical tape, placed it over the larger skin mets. Bad idea because it oozed iodine onto non-affected skin and caused good skin to blister and peel. Although, now I have nice new skin other places around my biggest skin met too. I realize now that the instructions to just dab the skin mets areas 10-20 times a day and blowing it dry is the better way to go. I am also curious about how to dilute the 7 % solution I have too. I am not a math person at all... Joy of Tallahassee... "I see in the files that 2 drops of Lugol's 5% is about 12.5 mg iodine/iodide. I have the 7% solution from the full orchestra. Do I use straight math (divide by 5, mulitply by 7) or "chemistry" math (which I don't know)? Straight math gives me 17.5 mg in 2 drops (8.75 mg in one drop). " Jesus said,"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." 13:34-35 What Good Are You Denying Yourself? -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring." -Tom Donohue -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring." -Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 thanks to everyone for info - my husband is prone to skin cancer so this will be helpful.ArielOn Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:31 PM, clairewest <clairewest@...> wrote: I believe Dr.Simoncini uses 7% Lugol's solution -- not iodine *tincture.* This is not to say iodine tincture won't work -- only that no one of prominence seems to have claimed that it can. On 3/28/2011 12:09 PM, ido zahavi wrote: dr simoncini uses iodine 7% against cancer,but he injects baking soda behind that candida will not enter the body. http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/protocol-skin-cancer.html On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> wrote: Yes, I do know that - what I'm asking is this: can you use iodine tincture EXTERNALLY to heal skin cancer lesions? Thank you, Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:32 PM, DeNormandie <blessedark2010@...> wrote: Don't take that tincture orally. It is made for outside the skin. You need to get Iodoral or Lugol's. Those are the internal iodines. from Illinois From: Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> iodine Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 1:14:57 PM Subject: Re: Iodine dried out my skin mets... just like I read about it... Hi Joy - congratulations! Can you use iodine on all forms of skin cancer or just mets? Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:50 AM, rainbowjoye <RainbowJoye@...> wrote: Hey Gang... I looked at the iodine I purchased last year from Full Orchestra and it is 7% iodine ticture with some alcohol in it too. Is the alcohol in it typical? I have been using it by dabbing it on my breast skin mets and it has pretty much dried them out and I have managed to peel off 3 of them.... taking what appears to be the dried up skin met tumor leaving behind a tiny indention of pink skin. I do have one large skin met that is taking more time to dry out for peeling. The skin met peels in layers and I am going to keep it up until I have pink skin where a skin mets was. I have read it takes 3 such peelings to get all of the skin met off per instructions. It has been a full week of my self treating my skin mets this way....It works great. It does sting, but no intolerably. I originally took a cotton ball and with medical tape, placed it over the larger skin mets. Bad idea because it oozed iodine onto non-affected skin and caused good skin to blister and peel. Although, now I have nice new skin other places around my biggest skin met too. I realize now that the instructions to just dab the skin mets areas 10-20 times a day and blowing it dry is the better way to go. I am also curious about how to dilute the 7 % solution I have too. I am not a math person at all... Joy of Tallahassee... " I see in the files that 2 drops of Lugol's 5% is about 12.5 mg iodine/iodide. I have the 7% solution from the full orchestra. Do I use straight math (divide by 5, mulitply by 7) or " chemistry " math (which I don't know)? Straight math gives me 17.5 mg in 2 drops (8.75 mg in one drop). " Jesus said, " A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. " 13:34-35 What Good Are You Denying Yourself? -- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue -- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue -- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Dr. Derry Answers Reader QuestionsIodine applied on the skin can be used to shrink swelling of the thyroid gland (goiters). So even small amounts of iodine absorbed through the skin can have good effects on body organs. From my own clinical experience, repeated application of iodine (Lugol’s) to the skin appears to cause regeneration of the skin from the bottom up (Quiescent, stable or stem cell) (3) eventually sloughing the old version of the skin off like a snake molting. If there was a pre-cancerous lesion on the old skin, it is replaced with new skin minus the lesion. There does not seem to be any skin lesions which are not helped or cured by this procedure. In some cases I found clinically obvious low thyroid conditions also needed to be treated to be more effective. Minor lacerations and healing of surgical wounds respond well. If skin regeneration is from the bottom, then there is little or no scar formation. My parents’ generation tended to put tincture of iodine onto a fresh wound to prevent infection. This turns out to be helpful but not the best way to use it. Besides it stung badly when applied. It is much more effective (and doesn't hurt) to apply iodine repeatedly after a scab has been formed. The iodine put onto the scab helps to organize total repair of the tissue. It is implied a similar approach could be taken to burns of all depths but at the same time the physiology of burns suggest there is an acute lack of thyroid hormone. (3) All pre-malignant lesions and many other oddities of the skin appear to respond to this regeneration process triggered by topical iodine. I have mentioned previously a patient with a biopsy-proven breast cancer lesion (she refused surgery because of previous cancer treatment) that was strongly fixed to the skin responding well to topical iodine and ended up being a dimple on the breast three year later. (6) It is my belief a water solution of iodine (like Lugol's) is an important therapeutic agent for skin. Because of its effectiveness and the results, perhaps many skin diseases are related to local tissue areas of relative iodine deficiency. Perhaps the most graphic lesions are the "keloid" (worm) incision scars formed after surgical procedures. If the iodine intake and tissue levels are adequate, such as in Japan, keloid formation doesn't happen (7). In addition, iodine's ability to trigger natural cell death (apoptosis) (5) makes it effective against all pre-cancerous skin lesions and likely many cancerous lesions. The local site is replaced with normal skin. However, even lesser doses of topical iodine seem to reverse the ominous appearance of skin lesions. Because my older brother died of metastatic melanoma, my chances of getting a malignant melanoma are increased by 400 times. (8-9) Having grown up in Venezuela near the equator my sun exposure at a young age was far above normal. So all suspicious lesions I notice are returned to normal with topical Lugol's. Re: Iodine dried out my skin mets... just like I read about it... Hi Joy - congratulations! Can you use iodine on all forms of skin cancer or just mets?Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:50 AM, rainbowjoye <RainbowJoye@...> wrote: Hey Gang... I looked at the iodine I purchased last year from Full Orchestra and it is 7% iodine ticture with some alcohol in it too. Is the alcohol in it typical? I have been using it by dabbing it on my breast skin mets and it has pretty much dried them out and I have managed to peel off 3 of them.... taking what appears to be the dried up skin met tumor leaving behind a tiny indention of pink skin. I do have one large skin met that is taking more time to dry out for peeling. The skin met peels in layers and I am going to keep it up until I have pink skin where a skin mets was. I have read it takes 3 such peelings to get all of the skin met off per instructions. It has been a full week of my self treating my skin mets this way....It works great. It does sting, but no intolerably. I originally took a cotton ball and with medical tape, placed it over the larger skin mets. Bad idea because it oozed iodine onto non-affected skin and caused good skin to blister and peel. Although, now I have nice new skin other places around my biggest skin met too. I realize now that the instructions to just dab the skin mets areas 10-20 times a day and blowing it dry is the better way to go. I am also curious about how to dilute the 7 % solution I have too. I am not a math person at all... Joy of Tallahassee... "I see in the files that 2 drops of Lugol's 5% is about 12.5 mg iodine/iodide.I have the 7% solution from the full orchestra. Do I use straight math (divide by 5, mulitply by 7) or "chemistry" math (which I don't know)?Straight math gives me 17.5 mg in 2 drops (8.75 mg in one drop)." Jesus said,"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." 13:34-35 What Good Are You Denying Yourself? -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring."-Tom Donohue-- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring."-Tom Donohue-- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring."-Tom Donohue 1 of 1 File(s) Dr Derry.doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 he uses iodine and not lugol.my wife was treated by him with 7% iodine. his motto ,is no pain no gain On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> wrote: thanks to everyone for info - my husband is prone to skin cancer so this will be helpful.Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:31 PM, clairewest <clairewest@...> wrote: I believe Dr.Simoncini uses 7% Lugol's solution -- not iodine *tincture.* This is not to say iodine tincture won't work -- only that no one of prominence seems to have claimed that it can. On 3/28/2011 12:09 PM, ido zahavi wrote: dr simoncini uses iodine 7% against cancer,but he injects baking soda behind that candida will not enter the body. http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/protocol-skin-cancer.html On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> wrote: Yes, I do know that - what I'm asking is this: can you use iodine tincture EXTERNALLY to heal skin cancer lesions?Thank you,Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:32 PM, DeNormandie <blessedark2010@...> wrote: Don't take that tincture orally. It is made for outside the skin. You need to get Iodoral or Lugol's. Those are the internal iodines. from Illinois From: Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...>iodine Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 1:14:57 PMSubject: Re: Iodine dried out my skin mets... just like I read about it... Hi Joy - congratulations! Can you use iodine on all forms of skin cancer or just mets?Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:50 AM, rainbowjoye <RainbowJoye@...> wrote: Hey Gang... I looked at the iodine I purchased last year from Full Orchestra and it is 7% iodine ticture with some alcohol in it too. Is the alcohol in it typical? I have been using it by dabbing it on my breast skin mets and it has pretty much dried them out and I have managed to peel off 3 of them.... taking what appears to be the dried up skin met tumor leaving behind a tiny indention of pink skin. I do have one large skin met that is taking more time to dry out for peeling. The skin met peels in layers and I am going to keep it up until I have pink skin where a skin mets was. I have read it takes 3 such peelings to get all of the skin met off per instructions. It has been a full week of my self treating my skin mets this way....It works great. It does sting, but no intolerably. I originally took a cotton ball and with medical tape, placed it over the larger skin mets. Bad idea because it oozed iodine onto non-affected skin and caused good skin to blister and peel. Although, now I have nice new skin other places around my biggest skin met too. I realize now that the instructions to just dab the skin mets areas 10-20 times a day and blowing it dry is the better way to go. I am also curious about how to dilute the 7 % solution I have too. I am not a math person at all... Joy of Tallahassee... " I see in the files that 2 drops of Lugol's 5% is about 12.5 mg iodine/iodide.I have the 7% solution from the full orchestra. Do I use straight math (divide by 5, mulitply by 7) or " chemistry " math (which I don't know)? Straight math gives me 17.5 mg in 2 drops (8.75 mg in one drop). " Jesus said, " A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. " 13:34-35 What Good Are You Denying Yourself? -- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue -- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue -- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 On 3/28/2011 10:19 PM, ido zahavi wrote: he uses iodine and not lugol.my wife was treated by him with 7% iodine. his motto ,is no pain no gain On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> wrote: thanks to everyone for info - my husband is prone to skin cancer so this will be helpful. Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:31 PM, clairewest <clairewest@...> wrote: I believe Dr.Simoncini uses 7% Lugol's solution -- not iodine *tincture.* This is not to say iodine tincture won't work -- only that no one of prominence seems to have claimed that it can. On 3/28/2011 12:09 PM, ido zahavi wrote: dr simoncini uses iodine 7% against cancer,but he injects baking soda behind that candida will not enter the body. http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/protocol-skin-cancer.html On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> wrote: Yes, I do know that - what I'm asking is this: can you use iodine tincture EXTERNALLY to heal skin cancer lesions? Thank you, Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:32 PM, DeNormandie <blessedark2010@...> wrote: Don't take that tincture orally. It is made for outside the skin. You need to get Iodoral or Lugol's. Those are the internal iodines. from Illinois From: Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> To: iodine Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 1:14:57 PM Subject: Re: Iodine dried out my skin mets... just like I read about it... Hi Joy - congratulations! Can you use iodine on all forms of skin cancer or just mets? Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:50 AM, rainbowjoye <RainbowJoye@...> wrote: Hey Gang... I looked at the iodine I purchased last year from Full Orchestra and it is 7% iodine ticture with some alcohol in it too. Is the alcohol in it typical? I have been using it by dabbing it on my breast skin mets and it has pretty much dried them out and I have managed to peel off 3 of them.... taking what appears to be the dried up skin met tumor leaving behind a tiny indention of pink skin. I do have one large skin met that is taking more time to dry out for peeling. The skin met peels in layers and I am going to keep it up until I have pink skin where a skin mets was. I have read it takes 3 such peelings to get all of the skin met off per instructions. It has been a full week of my self treating my skin mets this way....It works great. It does sting, but no intolerably. I originally took a cotton ball and with medical tape, placed it over the larger skin mets. Bad idea because it oozed iodine onto non-affected skin and caused good skin to blister and peel. Although, now I have nice new skin other places around my biggest skin met too. I realize now that the instructions to just dab the skin mets areas 10-20 times a day and blowing it dry is the better way to go. I am also curious about how to dilute the 7 % solution I have too. I am not a math person at all... Joy of Tallahassee... "I see in the files that 2 drops of Lugol's 5% is about 12.5 mg iodine/iodide. I have the 7% solution from the full orchestra. Do I use straight math (divide by 5, mulitply by 7) or "chemistry" math (which I don't know)? Straight math gives me 17.5 mg in 2 drops (8.75 mg in one drop). " Jesus said,"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." 13:34-35 What Good Are You Denying Yourself? -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring." -Tom Donohue -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring." -Tom Donohue -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring." -Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Ido, But does he use iodine *tincture* -- that is with alcohol? On 3/28/2011 10:19 PM, ido zahavi wrote: he uses iodine and not lugol.my wife was treated by him with 7% iodine. his motto ,is no pain no gain On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> wrote: thanks to everyone for info - my husband is prone to skin cancer so this will be helpful. Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:31 PM, clairewest <clairewest@...> wrote: I believe Dr.Simoncini uses 7% Lugol's solution -- not iodine *tincture.* This is not to say iodine tincture won't work -- only that no one of prominence seems to have claimed that it can. On 3/28/2011 12:09 PM, ido zahavi wrote: dr simoncini uses iodine 7% against cancer,but he injects baking soda behind that candida will not enter the body. http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/protocol-skin-cancer.html On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> wrote: Yes, I do know that - what I'm asking is this: can you use iodine tincture EXTERNALLY to heal skin cancer lesions? Thank you, Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:32 PM, DeNormandie <blessedark2010@...> wrote: Don't take that tincture orally. It is made for outside the skin. You need to get Iodoral or Lugol's. Those are the internal iodines. from Illinois From: Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> To: iodine Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 1:14:57 PM Subject: Re: Iodine dried out my skin mets... just like I read about it... Hi Joy - congratulations! Can you use iodine on all forms of skin cancer or just mets? Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:50 AM, rainbowjoye <RainbowJoye@...> wrote: Hey Gang... I looked at the iodine I purchased last year from Full Orchestra and it is 7% iodine ticture with some alcohol in it too. Is the alcohol in it typical? I have been using it by dabbing it on my breast skin mets and it has pretty much dried them out and I have managed to peel off 3 of them.... taking what appears to be the dried up skin met tumor leaving behind a tiny indention of pink skin. I do have one large skin met that is taking more time to dry out for peeling. The skin met peels in layers and I am going to keep it up until I have pink skin where a skin mets was. I have read it takes 3 such peelings to get all of the skin met off per instructions. It has been a full week of my self treating my skin mets this way....It works great. It does sting, but no intolerably. I originally took a cotton ball and with medical tape, placed it over the larger skin mets. Bad idea because it oozed iodine onto non-affected skin and caused good skin to blister and peel. Although, now I have nice new skin other places around my biggest skin met too. I realize now that the instructions to just dab the skin mets areas 10-20 times a day and blowing it dry is the better way to go. I am also curious about how to dilute the 7 % solution I have too. I am not a math person at all... Joy of Tallahassee... "I see in the files that 2 drops of Lugol's 5% is about 12.5 mg iodine/iodide. I have the 7% solution from the full orchestra. Do I use straight math (divide by 5, mulitply by 7) or "chemistry" math (which I don't know)? Straight math gives me 17.5 mg in 2 drops (8.75 mg in one drop). " Jesus said,"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." 13:34-35 What Good Are You Denying Yourself? -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring." -Tom Donohue -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring." -Tom Donohue -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring." -Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Ido, I just went looking for this and found that Dr. Simoncini does, in fact, use a tincture. Someone on another forum said the doctor has given him the formula as follows: The formula is 7 grams iodine 5 grams potassium iodide 5 mls distilled water alcohol to reach 25 mls Sorry I had that wrong. On 3/29/2011 2:51 AM, clairewest wrote: Ido, But does he use iodine *tincture* -- that is with alcohol? On 3/28/2011 10:19 PM, ido zahavi wrote: he uses iodine and not lugol.my wife was treated by him with 7% iodine. his motto ,is no pain no gain On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> wrote: thanks to everyone for info - my husband is prone to skin cancer so this will be helpful. Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:31 PM, clairewest <clairewest@...> wrote: I believe Dr.Simoncini uses 7% Lugol's solution -- not iodine *tincture.* This is not to say iodine tincture won't work -- only that no one of prominence seems to have claimed that it can. On 3/28/2011 12:09 PM, ido zahavi wrote: dr simoncini uses iodine 7% against cancer,but he injects baking soda behind that candida will not enter the body. http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/protocol-skin-cancer.html On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> wrote: Yes, I do know that - what I'm asking is this: can you use iodine tincture EXTERNALLY to heal skin cancer lesions? Thank you, Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:32 PM, DeNormandie <blessedark2010@...> wrote: Don't take that tincture orally. It is made for outside the skin. You need to get Iodoral or Lugol's. Those are the internal iodines. from Illinois From: Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> To: iodine Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 1:14:57 PM Subject: Re: Iodine dried out my skin mets... just like I read about it... Hi Joy - congratulations! Can you use iodine on all forms of skin cancer or just mets? Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:50 AM, rainbowjoye <RainbowJoye@...> wrote: Hey Gang... I looked at the iodine I purchased last year from Full Orchestra and it is 7% iodine ticture with some alcohol in it too. Is the alcohol in it typical? I have been using it by dabbing it on my breast skin mets and it has pretty much dried them out and I have managed to peel off 3 of them.... taking what appears to be the dried up skin met tumor leaving behind a tiny indention of pink skin. I do have one large skin met that is taking more time to dry out for peeling. The skin met peels in layers and I am going to keep it up until I have pink skin where a skin mets was. I have read it takes 3 such peelings to get all of the skin met off per instructions. It has been a full week of my self treating my skin mets this way....It works great. It does sting, but no intolerably. I originally took a cotton ball and with medical tape, placed it over the larger skin mets. Bad idea because it oozed iodine onto non-affected skin and caused good skin to blister and peel. Although, now I have nice new skin other places around my biggest skin met too. I realize now that the instructions to just dab the skin mets areas 10-20 times a day and blowing it dry is the better way to go. I am also curious about how to dilute the 7 % solution I have too. I am not a math person at all... Joy of Tallahassee... "I see in the files that 2 drops of Lugol's 5% is about 12.5 mg iodine/iodide. I have the 7% solution from the full orchestra. Do I use straight math (divide by 5, mulitply by 7) or "chemistry" math (which I don't know)? Straight math gives me 17.5 mg in 2 drops (8.75 mg in one drop). " Jesus said,"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." 13:34-35 What Good Are You Denying Yourself? -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring." -Tom Donohue -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring." -Tom Donohue -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring." -Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 yes .i am sure about it.we took the bottles home to continue On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:51 AM, clairewest <clairewest@...> wrote: Ido,But does he use iodine *tincture* -- that is with alcohol? On 3/28/2011 10:19 PM, ido zahavi wrote: he uses iodine and not lugol.my wife was treated by him with 7% iodine. his motto ,is no pain no gain On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> wrote: thanks to everyone for info - my husband is prone to skin cancer so this will be helpful.Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:31 PM, clairewest <clairewest@...> wrote: I believe Dr.Simoncini uses 7% Lugol's solution -- not iodine *tincture.* This is not to say iodine tincture won't work -- only that no one of prominence seems to have claimed that it can. On 3/28/2011 12:09 PM, ido zahavi wrote: dr simoncini uses iodine 7% against cancer,but he injects baking soda behind that candida will not enter the body. http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/protocol-skin-cancer.html On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> wrote: Yes, I do know that - what I'm asking is this: can you use iodine tincture EXTERNALLY to heal skin cancer lesions?Thank you,Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:32 PM, DeNormandie <blessedark2010@...> wrote: Don't take that tincture orally. It is made for outside the skin. You need to get Iodoral or Lugol's. Those are the internal iodines. from Illinois From: Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...>iodine Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 1:14:57 PMSubject: Re: Iodine dried out my skin mets... just like I read about it... Hi Joy - congratulations! Can you use iodine on all forms of skin cancer or just mets?Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:50 AM, rainbowjoye <RainbowJoye@...> wrote: Hey Gang... I looked at the iodine I purchased last year from Full Orchestra and it is 7% iodine ticture with some alcohol in it too. Is the alcohol in it typical? I have been using it by dabbing it on my breast skin mets and it has pretty much dried them out and I have managed to peel off 3 of them.... taking what appears to be the dried up skin met tumor leaving behind a tiny indention of pink skin. I do have one large skin met that is taking more time to dry out for peeling. The skin met peels in layers and I am going to keep it up until I have pink skin where a skin mets was. I have read it takes 3 such peelings to get all of the skin met off per instructions. It has been a full week of my self treating my skin mets this way....It works great. It does sting, but no intolerably. I originally took a cotton ball and with medical tape, placed it over the larger skin mets. Bad idea because it oozed iodine onto non-affected skin and caused good skin to blister and peel. Although, now I have nice new skin other places around my biggest skin met too. I realize now that the instructions to just dab the skin mets areas 10-20 times a day and blowing it dry is the better way to go. I am also curious about how to dilute the 7 % solution I have too. I am not a math person at all... Joy of Tallahassee... " I see in the files that 2 drops of Lugol's 5% is about 12.5 mg iodine/iodide.I have the 7% solution from the full orchestra. Do I use straight math (divide by 5, mulitply by 7) or " chemistry " math (which I don't know)? Straight math gives me 17.5 mg in 2 drops (8.75 mg in one drop). " Jesus said, " A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. " 13:34-35 What Good Are You Denying Yourself? -- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue -- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue -- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 I started wondering why Dr. S chose to use a tincture. Then I started wondering why anyone would formulate or market a tincture. That is, what property (such as being a disinfectant) could alcohol supply to the formula that wasn't already supplied by iodine? The only "problem" with iodine is its tendency to evaporate over time -- but then so does alcohol. On 3/29/2011 3:35 AM, ido zahavi wrote: yes .i am sure about it.we took the bottles home to continue On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:51 AM, clairewest <clairewest@...> wrote: Ido, But does he use iodine *tincture* -- that is with alcohol? On 3/28/2011 10:19 PM, ido zahavi wrote: he uses iodine and not lugol.my wife was treated by him with 7% iodine. his motto ,is no pain no gain On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> wrote: thanks to everyone for info - my husband is prone to skin cancer so this will be helpful. Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:31 PM, clairewest <clairewest@...> wrote: I believe Dr.Simoncini uses 7% Lugol's solution -- not iodine *tincture.* This is not to say iodine tincture won't work -- only that no one of prominence seems to have claimed that it can. On 3/28/2011 12:09 PM, ido zahavi wrote: dr simoncini uses iodine 7% against cancer,but he injects baking soda behind that candida will not enter the body. http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/protocol-skin-cancer.html On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> wrote: Yes, I do know that - what I'm asking is this: can you use iodine tincture EXTERNALLY to heal skin cancer lesions? Thank you, Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:32 PM, DeNormandie <blessedark2010@...> wrote: Don't take that tincture orally. It is made for outside the skin. You need to get Iodoral or Lugol's. Those are the internal iodines. from Illinois From: Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> To: iodine Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 1:14:57 PM Subject: Re: Iodine dried out my skin mets... just like I read about it... Hi Joy - congratulations! Can you use iodine on all forms of skin cancer or just mets? Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:50 AM, rainbowjoye <RainbowJoye@...> wrote: Hey Gang... I looked at the iodine I purchased last year from Full Orchestra and it is 7% iodine ticture with some alcohol in it too. Is the alcohol in it typical? I have been using it by dabbing it on my breast skin mets and it has pretty much dried them out and I have managed to peel off 3 of them.... taking what appears to be the dried up skin met tumor leaving behind a tiny indention of pink skin. I do have one large skin met that is taking more time to dry out for peeling. The skin met peels in layers and I am going to keep it up until I have pink skin where a skin mets was. I have read it takes 3 such peelings to get all of the skin met off per instructions. It has been a full week of my self treating my skin mets this way....It works great. It does sting, but no intolerably. I originally took a cotton ball and with medical tape, placed it over the larger skin mets. Bad idea because it oozed iodine onto non-affected skin and caused good skin to blister and peel. Although, now I have nice new skin other places around my biggest skin met too. I realize now that the instructions to just dab the skin mets areas 10-20 times a day and blowing it dry is the better way to go. I am also curious about how to dilute the 7 % solution I have too. I am not a math person at all... Joy of Tallahassee... "I see in the files that 2 drops of Lugol's 5% is about 12.5 mg iodine/iodide. I have the 7% solution from the full orchestra. Do I use straight math (divide by 5, mulitply by 7) or "chemistry" math (which I don't know)? Straight math gives me 17.5 mg in 2 drops (8.75 mg in one drop). " Jesus said,"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." 13:34-35 What Good Are You Denying Yourself? -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring." -Tom Donohue -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring." -Tom Donohue -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring." -Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 I guess I wasn't clear in what I wrote. I understand about iodine killing all manner of pathogens. My question is: why is there a need to add alcohol to the iodine mix? What does it add to the mix? On 3/29/2011 8:21 AM, ido zahavi wrote: dr simoncini sees cancer as candida and the body defence against the candida.with 7% iodine he kills the candida. http://www.cancerisafungus.com/ On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:15 PM, clairewest <clairewest@...> wrote: I started wondering why Dr. S chose to use a tincture. Then I started wondering why anyone would formulate or market a tincture. That is, what property (such as being a disinfectant) could alcohol supply to the formula that wasn't already supplied by iodine? The only "problem" with iodine is its tendency to evaporate over time -- but then so does alcohol. On 3/29/2011 3:35 AM, ido zahavi wrote: yes .i am sure about it.we took the bottles home to continue On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:51 AM, clairewest <clairewest@...> wrote: Ido, But does he use iodine *tincture* -- that is with alcohol? On 3/28/2011 10:19 PM, ido zahavi wrote: he uses iodine and not lugol.my wife was treated by him with 7% iodine. his motto ,is no pain no gain On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> wrote: thanks to everyone for info - my husband is prone to skin cancer so this will be helpful. Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:31 PM, clairewest <clairewest@...> wrote: I believe Dr.Simoncini uses 7% Lugol's solution -- not iodine *tincture.* This is not to say iodine tincture won't work -- only that no one of prominence seems to have claimed that it can. On 3/28/2011 12:09 PM, ido zahavi wrote: dr simoncini uses iodine 7% against cancer,but he injects baking soda behind that candida will not enter the body. http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/protocol-skin-cancer.html On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> wrote: Yes, I do know that - what I'm asking is this: can you use iodine tincture EXTERNALLY to heal skin cancer lesions? Thank you, Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:32 PM, DeNormandie <blessedark2010@...> wrote: Don't take that tincture orally. It is made for outside the skin. You need to get Iodoral or Lugol's. Those are the internal iodines. from Illinois From: Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> To: iodine Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 1:14:57 PM Subject: Re: Iodine dried out my skin mets... just like I read about it... Hi Joy - congratulations! Can you use iodine on all forms of skin cancer or just mets? Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:50 AM, rainbowjoye <RainbowJoye@...> wrote: Hey Gang... I looked at the iodine I purchased last year from Full Orchestra and it is 7% iodine ticture with some alcohol in it too. Is the alcohol in it typical? I have been using it by dabbing it on my breast skin mets and it has pretty much dried them out and I have managed to peel off 3 of them.... taking what appears to be the dried up skin met tumor leaving behind a tiny indention of pink skin. I do have one large skin met that is taking more time to dry out for peeling. The skin met peels in layers and I am going to keep it up until I have pink skin where a skin mets was. I have read it takes 3 such peelings to get all of the skin met off per instructions. It has been a full week of my self treating my skin mets this way....It works great. It does sting, but no intolerably. I originally took a cotton ball and with medical tape, placed it over the larger skin mets. Bad idea because it oozed iodine onto non-affected skin and caused good skin to blister and peel. Although, now I have nice new skin other places around my biggest skin met too. I realize now that the instructions to just dab the skin mets areas 10-20 times a day and blowing it dry is the better way to go. I am also curious about how to dilute the 7 % solution I have too. I am not a math person at all... Joy of Tallahassee... "I see in the files that 2 drops of Lugol's 5% is about 12.5 mg iodine/iodide. I have the 7% solution from the full orchestra. Do I use straight math (divide by 5, mulitply by 7) or "chemistry" math (which I don't know)? Straight math gives me 17.5 mg in 2 drops (8.75 mg in one drop). " Jesus said,"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." 13:34-35 What Good Are You Denying Yourself? -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring." -Tom Donohue -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring." -Tom Donohue -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring." -Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Tincture From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia This article is about alcoholic liquids. For the colors used in a coat of arms, see tincture (heraldry). A tincture prepared from white willow bark and ethanol A tincture is an alcoholic extract (e.g. of leaves or other plant material) or solution of a non-volatile substance (e.g. of iodine, mercurochrome). To qualify as a tincture, the alcoholic extract is to have an ethanol percentage of at least 40-60% (80-120 proof) (sometimes a 90% (180 proof) pure liquid is even achieved).[1] In herbal medicine, alcoholic tinctures are often made with various concentrations of ethanol, 25% being the most common. Other concentrations include 45% and 90%. Herbal tinctures do not always use ethanol as a solvent, though this is the most frequent. Other solvents include vinegar, glycerol, ether and propylene glycol, not all of which are used for internal consumption. However, where a raw solvent's pH factor is a sole consideration, the advantage of ethanol is that being close to neutral pH, it is a good compromise as a passive used solvent of both acidic and alkaline constituents where a tincturing methodology is concerned. Glycerine, when utilized in a tincture methodology's passive (i.e. 'non-critical') manner, is a poorer solvent generally, and vinegar, being acidic, is a better solvent of alkaloids but a poorer solvent of acids, which would result in the alkaloids being more present in the preparation than otherwise. However, for people who do not imbibe alcohol for medical, religious or moral reasons, non-alcoholic (glycerite) tinctures are an alternative. Alcohol tinctures cannot be subjected to high temperatures and are thus considered a 'non-critical' passive methodology regarding this factor. This is one of the primary reasons why glycerol, due to early Eclectic medicine studies (now for the most part outdated concerning the subject), is typically seen as inferior to alcohol, when utilized in a non-critical tincture methodology fashion (which is how Eclectic medicine researchers utilized glycerol in their tincture making studies), since it does not exhibit the extractive potential of alcohol when used in a low temperature non-critical tincturing setting. Glycerol used in a non-critical tincturing methodology, as is typically done in the herbal products industry at large for instance, will result in a weak solution, whereas if glycerol is subjected to a contemporary innovative serialized methodology currently in the industry, the extractive potential of glycerol is quite astounding. Therefore, glycerite products made using such innovative serialized extraction technologies are showing great promise, even rivaling alcohol tinctures on numerous points. Solutions of volatile substances were called spirits, although that name was also given to several other materials obtained by distillation, even when they did not include alcohol. In chemistry, a tincture is a solution that has alcohol as the solvent. from IllinoisFrom: clairewest <clairewest@...>iodine Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 10:34:08 AMSubject: Re: Iodine dried out my skin mets... just like I read about it... I guess I wasn't clear in what I wrote. I understand about iodine killing all manner of pathogens. My question is: why is there a need to add alcohol to the iodine mix? What does it add to the mix? On 3/29/2011 8:21 AM, ido zahavi wrote: dr simoncini sees cancer as candida and the body defence against the candida.with 7% iodine he kills the candida. http://www.cancerisafungus.com/ On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:15 PM, clairewest <clairewest@...> wrote: I started wondering why Dr. S chose to use a tincture. Then I started wondering why anyone would formulate or market a tincture. That is, what property (such as being a disinfectant) could alcohol supply to the formula that wasn't already supplied by iodine? The only "problem" with iodine is its tendency to evaporate over time -- but then so does alcohol. On 3/29/2011 3:35 AM, ido zahavi wrote: yes .i am sure about it.we took the bottles home to continue On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:51 AM, clairewest <clairewest@...> wrote: Ido, But does he use iodine *tincture* -- that is with alcohol? On 3/28/2011 10:19 PM, ido zahavi wrote: he uses iodine and not lugol.my wife was treated by him with 7% iodine. his motto ,is no pain no gain On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> wrote: thanks to everyone for info - my husband is prone to skin cancer so this will be helpful. Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:31 PM, clairewest <clairewest@...> wrote: I believe Dr.Simoncini uses 7% Lugol's solution -- not iodine *tincture.* This is not to say iodine tincture won't work -- only that no one of prominence seems to have claimed that it can. On 3/28/2011 12:09 PM, ido zahavi wrote: dr simoncini uses iodine 7% against cancer,but he injects baking soda behind that candida will not enter the body. http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/protocol-skin-cancer.html On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> wrote: Yes, I do know that - what I'm asking is this: can you use iodine tincture EXTERNALLY to heal skin cancer lesions? Thank you, Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:32 PM, DeNormandie <blessedark2010@...> wrote: Don't take that tincture orally. It is made for outside the skin. You need to get Iodoral or Lugol's. Those are the internal iodines. from Illinois From: Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> To: iodine Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 1:14:57 PM Subject: Re: Iodine dried out my skin mets... just like I read about it... Hi Joy - congratulations! Can you use iodine on all forms of skin cancer or just mets? Ariel On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:50 AM, rainbowjoye <RainbowJoye@...> wrote: Hey Gang... I looked at the iodine I purchased last year from Full Orchestra and it is 7% iodine ticture with some alcohol in it too. Is the alcohol in it typical? I have been using it by dabbing it on my breast skin mets and it has pretty much dried them out and I have managed to peel off 3 of them.... taking what appears to be the dried up skin met tumor leaving behind a tiny indention of pink skin. I do have one large skin met that is taking more time to dry out for peeling. The skin met peels in layers and I am going to keep it up until I have pink skin where a skin mets was. I have read it takes 3 such peelings to get all of the skin met off per instructions. It has been a full week of my self treating my skin mets this way....It works great. It does sting, but no intolerably. I originally took a cotton ball and with medical tape, placed it over the larger skin mets. Bad idea because it oozed iodine onto non-affected skin and caused good skin to blister and peel. Although, now I have nice new skin other places around my biggest skin met too. I realize now that the instructions to just dab the skin mets areas 10-20 times a day and blowing it dry is the better way to go. I am also curious about how to dilute the 7 % solution I have too. I am not a math person at all... Joy of Tallahassee... "I see in the files that 2 drops of Lugol's 5% is about 12.5 mg iodine/iodide. I have the 7% solution from the full orchestra. Do I use straight math (divide by 5, mulitply by 7) or "chemistry" math (which I don't know)? Straight math gives me 17.5 mg in 2 drops (8.75 mg in one drop). " Jesus said,"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." 13:34-35 What Good Are You Denying Yourself? -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring." -Tom Donohue -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring." -Tom Donohue -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring." -Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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