Re: congested liver and iodine

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You definitely want to make sure your liver is relatively clean and can handle the detox.~WOn Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 3:53 PM, hardrockshoney <sandralhowie@...> wrote:

 

Hello and happy new year to all,

I am on NTH and HC(trying to lower from 40) but not iodine (yet) and have suspected for a while now I might have a congested liver and am also recently experienced edema 2 x's (stopped my sea salt and it went away) so not sure if kidney issue too.

As iodine detoxes would it be advisable for me to make sure that I my liver is optimium as well as my kidneys before I start.

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Oh sorry I forgot in my self indulgent rant to say thanks for your feedback

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> > I am on NTH and HC(trying to lower from 40) but not iodine (yet) and have

> > suspected for a while now I might have a congested liver and am also

> > recently experienced edema 2 x's (stopped my sea salt and it went away) so

> > not sure if kidney issue too.

> > As iodine detoxes would it be advisable for me to make sure that I my liver

> > is optimium as well as my kidneys before I start.

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It is all so conflicting to me. I am on Cortef and am told to not do any

cleanses by the adrenal group. How can I ever right my body, detox, take iodine

etc if one step always prevents the next step. How can the adrenals heal if the

body is toxic?

I am really frustrated by all this.

It would be so nice if in a perfect world there would be one protocol for

adrenal/thyroid that all groups could agree on.

Just venting a little. I just know I need iodine. I have many cherry angiomas

now and also many more moles all over and know I'm full of toxins that my liver

is unable to get rid of.

Sorry just really frustrated after feeling like I'm running in circles looking

for answers.

S

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> > I am on NTH and HC(trying to lower from 40) but not iodine (yet) and have

> > suspected for a while now I might have a congested liver and am also

> > recently experienced edema 2 x's (stopped my sea salt and it went away) so

> > not sure if kidney issue too.

> > As iodine detoxes would it be advisable for me to make sure that I my liver

> > is optimium as well as my kidneys before I start.

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Hey ,

I hear both you and Gracia, only thing is I've experienced leg swelling and

stopped taking my sea salt. . Thanks for the link on the vit's I will check it

out. I do take Milk Thistle on and off. I did try iodine 12.5 for a few days

before and got a huge canker and so I stopped but that may have been too soon

after my surgery.

After my appendix surgery I had the swelling and then again after one time in

years I had a few drinks, danced and stayed up until 4:30am on New Years Eve.

Last night I had some braggs amino soy sauce and today I don't have swelling but

feel I'm definitely holding water.

I do 3-4000 vit c every day already and have been doing salt for a the last

year.

Well thanks for the feedback you both give me, I will see what the next step is.

hugs

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> > > > I am on NTH and HC(trying to lower from 40) but not iodine (yet) and

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> > > > recently experienced edema 2 x's (stopped my sea salt and it went away)

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> > > > As iodine detoxes would it be advisable for me to make sure that I my

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....writing to encourage you......

I have (I should say had because I am overcoming in the strength of the Lord)

SEVERE adrenal fatigue. Iodine is hard to handle when you have such adrenal

stress.......BUT you still need it. You heal with it.

People are going to have varying opinions. One of my best friends is

hypothyroid and on Synthroid and I simply cannot convince her about natural

thyroid and iodine. She really puts up with me because it's all I can talk

about. One day she will probably end up with the adrenal stress that I am

living, and maybe then I can help her (and I don't mean that prideful or

anything, I just truly want to help.)

I know it is real and true because I am living it. You have to try it for

yourself.

In July one 12.5 mg Iodoral almost killed me, or at least I thought it was going

to. It was actual bromide reaction, you know.... BUT if it hadn't been for

taking that one little pill and trying it for myself, I would never have known

nor believed any of this was real.

It's real, alright. And I'm sure that is why the adrenal group says not to take

any. That kind of reaction is hard to deal with.

But guess what. I'm taking 75 mg now!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I would have never

thought that my adrenally stressed body could handle it. But I believe the

iodine is actually HEALING my adrenals, and thyroid, and who knows what else. I

had a little clear skin tag like mole on my chest that is almost completely

disappeared!

I'm pushing through the detox and no, it is not fun, and no, it is not pretty,

and GOD BLESS MY POOR HUSBAND who has to put up with my headaches and crying and

wondering when and I REALLY going to be better....like completely healed. But

every time I go up more on the iodine, I detox for a couple days and then guess

what???? I have SO much more energy! It's hard to believe but it's true.

" Go ahead Mikie, and try it, you'll like it!!! " lol

Tammy

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> > > I am on NTH and HC(trying to lower from 40) but not iodine (yet) and have

> > > suspected for a while now I might have a congested liver and am also

> > > recently experienced edema 2 x's (stopped my sea salt and it went away) so

> > > not sure if kidney issue too.

> > > As iodine detoxes would it be advisable for me to make sure that I my

liver

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> > > tx

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Holy Cow Tammy,

Thank you so much.

That is amazing and I thank you for explaining it all to me what you have

experienced and I'm sure that you aren't the only one who has experienced this

but you really gave me some great insight. When you say weak adrenals, were you

on HC So did you ever have to stress dose during the bad times or did you just

salt load? I wanted to do a 5 day liver cleanse from a book called the

Detox Solution by Fitzgerald first and see how I am with that and then

start iodine.

I too have that same clear little bugger on my chest! Ha!

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> > > > Hello and happy new year to all,

> > > > I am on NTH and HC(trying to lower from 40) but not iodine (yet) and

have

> > > > suspected for a while now I might have a congested liver and am also

> > > > recently experienced edema 2 x's (stopped my sea salt and it went away)

so

> > > > not sure if kidney issue too.

> > > > As iodine detoxes would it be advisable for me to make sure that I my

liver

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Geeze, you guys have been through so much.

It is amazing how far you have come Pam and I am so lucky to have you share it

with me.

What were you doing for adrenal support if any at all when you started?

Some days I feel good as new and the other I feel 50% better than what I did

before I started anything. I worry I will never get off Cortef, have suppressed

my adrenals, want to know if I did and worry about my liver.

What test(s) do you do to see how the liver is doing?

I would like to see just how good mine is (or bad).

Thanks again for taking your time to tell me your success story Pam!

Hugs

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> > > > > > I am on NTH and HC(trying to lower from 40) but not iodine (yet)

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> > > > > > suspected for a while now I might have a congested liver and am

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> > > > > > recently experienced edema 2 x's (stopped my sea salt and it went

> > away) so

> > > > > > not sure if kidney issue too.

> > > > > > As iodine detoxes would it be advisable for me to make sure that I

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I have found that my adrenal stress came from my scars, mainly from surgeries

and scars from acute inflammation. Every time I experience some sort of trauma,

my adrenals take a hit. I have 100% success of supporting the adrenals by using

iodine topically on the areas. I use Iosol because it works well for me,

doesn't stain nor sting. Others you Lugol's. When I was muscle tested, the

test showed that my C-section scar was causing my adrenals to crash. I recently

had a live blood reading by probably the best doc in the country, Dr. Bigelsen,

who knows how to see holograms in the blood and he said my biggest contributor

to my inflammation were my varicose vein scars. I have been putting iodine on

those scars and the churning of my stomach is pretty much gone.

My favorite liver support is Antronex, 15 tabs per day, along with Milk Thistle.

MSM also supports glutathione. MSM was responsible for fixing me when I was in

my forties.

Joan

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> > > > > Hello and happy new year to all,

> > > > > I am on NTH and HC(trying to lower from 40) but not iodine (yet) and

> > > have

> > > > > suspected for a while now I might have a congested liver and am also

> > > > > recently experienced edema 2 x's (stopped my sea salt and it went

away)

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> > > > > not sure if kidney issue too.

> > > > > As iodine detoxes would it be advisable for me to make sure that I my

> > > liver

> > > > > is optimium as well as my kidneys before I start.

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I was not on any HC at the time I started Iodoral. I actually didn't know I had

adrenal fatigue/hypothyroidism because I had just had a baby that April before

it happened to me in July. I thought I was just " tired " and I am 37 having my

3rd baby after all lol. It was the iodine that led me to find out why my body

could not handle it. I was not a member of this group yet, just trusting a

friend's recommendation to take some because it is healthy, etc... we are all

deficient, etc...

She neglected to tell me about bromism, I guess because she had no idea I was so

toxic! I am very thankful now of coarse, but as far as my detox effects,

someone else asked....so here are some details:

I didn't know about salt loading or any of the supporting nutrients so nothing

was on board. I thought I was going to die! I called my friend Pat (love you!)

and she got on here and started asking what should I do. The side effects

didn't start happening to me until that night or even worse the next couple of

days. I had severe blurry vision, like something was in my eyes. I thought I

was on another planet or something, I don't know how I drove. Now I know that

was " brain fog " . There was a nasty metal taste in my mouth and other side

effects like bad sensitivity to light. Anyway, all my Mom had at her house was

Vitamin C and epsom salt and iodized salt. I salt loaded and took C and made

several trips to the bathroom! It took me several DAYS to get over it and I

didn't try again with the Iodoral until a month or so later when I figured all

of this out and had the supporting nutrients, etc...

I didn't have HC until a couple of weeks after I started the Iodoral again. It

wasn't pretty as I said, but when I did start the doctor gave me cortisone

acetate (which I hear is not as good) and only 10 mg. But anyway, I am at 20-30

mg of cortisol now and doing a lot better. Still, it is taking a while, but I

am just thankful because there are so many people who are suffering with this

disease process and do not even know it. That is why I am more than happy to

share what has happened to me. I know a lot of my friends and family believe

me, it's the ones who do not that I commit to praying for. God just has to open

their eyes like He does about everything!

I pray you will find the right thing to do and that the Lord will heal you in

His good time.

Blessings,

Tammy

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> > > > > Hello and happy new year to all,

> > > > > I am on NTH and HC(trying to lower from 40) but not iodine (yet) and

have

> > > > > suspected for a while now I might have a congested liver and am also

> > > > > recently experienced edema 2 x's (stopped my sea salt and it went

away) so

> > > > > not sure if kidney issue too.

> > > > > As iodine detoxes would it be advisable for me to make sure that I my

liver

> > > > > is optimium as well as my kidneys before I start.

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HI! Tammy,

I admire your strength. It really is great to here more. I will just listen to

my gut and do what I can and see how it goes. Still grappling with the high dose

of Cortef I'm on and worried I've surpressed my adrenals per the info I'm

getting from the natural adrenal group.

Thank you for reaching out and helping.

hugs

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> > > > > > I am on NTH and HC(trying to lower from 40) but not iodine (yet) and

have

> > > > > > suspected for a while now I might have a congested liver and am also

> > > > > > recently experienced edema 2 x's (stopped my sea salt and it went

away) so

> > > > > > not sure if kidney issue too.

> > > > > > As iodine detoxes would it be advisable for me to make sure that I

my liver

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[Guest guest]

Hi Pam,

Are you thyroidless? Did an MD run those tests for you or a naturopath? I did do

ultra clear once but if I do the same thing every day develop another food

sensitivity. I started to feel unwell on it after one jar so thought that was

what was happening.

Maybe I could do it on my day I eat rice , every 4 days?

I will check into the Advaclear, think I can get it without a naturopath at a

store close by.

No problemo sleeping, I get 8 hours and need 9 if not 10 but don't get that.

You must be so proud of how far you have come. It is stories like yours and

Tammy's that keep us going when we feel like banging our heads against a brick

wall!

hugs

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> > > > > > > > Hello and happy new year to all,

> > > > > > > > I am on NTH and HC(trying to lower from 40) but not iodine

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> > > > and have

> > > > > > > > suspected for a while now I might have a congested liver and am

> > > > also

> > > > > > > > recently experienced edema 2 x's (stopped my sea salt and it

> > went

> > > > away) so

> > > > > > > > not sure if kidney issue too.

> > > > > > > > As iodine detoxes would it be advisable for me to make sure

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Now, now play nice Gracia.

You know, like liver cleanse, gall bladder cleanse, yeah I guess anything to

detox the body. I believe her take on it is that anything like that will stress

the adrenals even more as the body works hard to get rid of the bad stuff, but

then if the bad stuff makes us sick then how are we to get better if we don't?

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Hey ,

that is wonderful, so were you ever on HC?

That really is such great news. I dream of doing the dancing thing!

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Hey ,

So do you think iodine helped you get off it? If so then how long were you on it

and how did you get off it?

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Oh ,

So good for you! You are a pillar of strength. I am sad that you have suffered

so and hope that making these changes brings nothing but increased health and

happiness.

You didn't quit HC cold turkey did you? I thought that is dangerous and could

cause an adrenal crash or worse?

What was you dose when you quit and how long were you on it?

Curious.

As for the sex, my hubs will be happy to here that, me I've kind of lost that

mojo but know I have to make an effort more.

Thanks for the tips and I will read up on the tapping. I left yoga for a while

now but it is calling me back and want to incorporate it into my day somehow

again.

hugs

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