Guest guest Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Hi all, I have been lurking here for years, bought and read Dr Brownstein's book " Iodine " . I started on first one drop of Lugols, and worked up to 4 drops and have stayed there. Its been about 8 months since we started. We never did any bloodwork because we never intended to go higher with the iodine. My husband has been doing the same as me, although not as regular because when he works away, he obviously doesn't get any. Before Christmas he was away for nearly a month. Same with the companion nutrients. The salt he never wanted, he couldn't see that would be good for anyone. Anyway, now my husband feels he has a lump in the throat, and he has difficulty swallowing. It might be unrelated with the iodine, but he feel it is very coincidental, which I feel too. De GP ordered bloodtests and an ultrasound. For the ultrasound my husband needs to swallow Barium. My father-in-law just died 6 months ago of cancer in a fierce 2-day reaction to the Chemo , so obviously my husband doesn't want to go there with the Barium. I feel he needs to keep the iodine up, he feels he just wants that lump gone. He wants to tell the GP about the iodine, I'm not sure whether he should. He has an appointment with a thermography scanner tomorrow. What can I say to him? Could the iodine have caused a lump or his thyroid to swell? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Jiska from Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 If I am not mistaken the lump in the throat can be a detox symptom and the purpose of the salt is to help with detox. Don't have access to the link with the list of detox symptoms but I am almost positive that was on it. On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 2:00 AM, ozchristensen <ozchristensen@...> wrote: Hi all,I have been lurking here for years, bought and read Dr Brownstein's book " Iodine " . I started on first one drop of Lugols, and worked up to 4 drops and have stayed there. Its been about 8 months since we started. We never did any bloodwork because we never intended to go higher with the iodine. My husband has been doing the same as me, although not as regular because when he works away, he obviously doesn't get any. Before Christmas he was away for nearly a month. Same with the companion nutrients. The salt he never wanted, he couldn't see that would be good for anyone. Anyway, now my husband feels he has a lump in the throat, and he has difficulty swallowing. It might be unrelated with the iodine, but he feel it is very coincidental, which I feel too.De GP ordered bloodtests and an ultrasound. For the ultrasound my husband needs to swallow Barium. My father-in-law just died 6 months ago of cancer in a fierce 2-day reaction to the Chemo , so obviously my husband doesn't want to go there with the Barium. I feel he needs to keep the iodine up, he feels he just wants that lump gone. He wants to tell the GP about the iodine, I'm not sure whether he should. He has an appointment with a thermography scanner tomorrow. What can I say to him? Could the iodine have caused a lump or his thyroid to swell?Any input would be greatly appreciated.Kind regards,Jiska from Australia------------------------------------ All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Well, my first thought is that a lot of us experience temporary swelling of the thyroid, until it gets enough iodine & shrinks again. So I would be inclined to try to get him to take his iodine faithfully for a while, to see if that happens. I would also rub Lugol's on his throat every night, & consider increasing the oral dose. It could be that he has given it just enough iodine to crave more, but not enough to take care of the job. Several people have reported these sorts of issues with low doses or in the early stages. The thyroid swells until it is satisfied.My second thought is that his refusal to take the salt could be compounding the problem. Everybody keeps saying that the salt is not optional. Have you sat him down & explained to him the difference between natural salt & processed salt? I would buy a blood pressure cuff (the kind they make for home use) & check his blood pressure after dosing with good salt. (I am assuming that is his concern.) There are a FEW people who cannot handle natural salt, but most people reportedly find that it does not have the negative effects of commercial processed salt.And my third thought is that if he tells the doc about the iodine, the doc is going to blame the iodine or tell him that he is poisoning himself or have some other negative & unhelpful reaction. Many docs are actively hostile to anything they didn't prescribe themselves, & most, as we keep hearing, know nothing about iodine. Talking to his doc about it is pretty much guaranteed not to help.It also seems to me that you have been perhaps a bit ambivalent about the iodine, in taking such a low dose... There are some situations where you really have to commit. Many people seem to be reporting that a low dose causes more problems than it solves. You have to look at the big picture here. If you go mainstream all the way, you are looking at radioactive dyes, biopsies, surgeries, & in the worst case, toxic therapies. They will tell you that iodine is bad, & give him a lot of stuff that is worse. If you want to go alternative, you probably need to bump up the iodine, take the salt more seriously, & generally commit to giving it a fair trial. If you are not happy with going alternative, you can always go back to the docs. But if you let the docs have at him first, a lot of that "treatment" is hard to recover from. You are definitely at a crossroads, where you have to choose & commit to a course of action. And it all boils down to what makes you feel safer. If you feel safer turning your choices over to the docs, then that is what you should do. (It is certainly not what *I* would do. But this is a choice you have to figure out for yourselves.) And if you feel safer taking alternative approaches, you have to commit to that.Good luck.AnneOn Jan 12, 2011, at 12:00 AM, ozchristensen wrote: Hi all, I have been lurking here for years, bought and read Dr Brownstein's book "Iodine". I started on first one drop of Lugols, and worked up to 4 drops and have stayed there. Its been about 8 months since we started. We never did any bloodwork because we never intended to go higher with the iodine. My husband has been doing the same as me, although not as regular because when he works away, he obviously doesn't get any. Before Christmas he was away for nearly a month. Same with the companion nutrients. The salt he never wanted, he couldn't see that would be good for anyone. Anyway, now my husband feels he has a lump in the throat, and he has difficulty swallowing. It might be unrelated with the iodine, but he feel it is very coincidental, which I feel too. De GP ordered bloodtests and an ultrasound. For the ultrasound my husband needs to swallow Barium. My father-in-law just died 6 months ago of cancer in a fierce 2-day reaction to the Chemo , so obviously my husband doesn't want to go there with the Barium. I feel he needs to keep the iodine up, he feels he just wants that lump gone. He wants to tell the GP about the iodine, I'm not sure whether he should. He has an appointment with a thermography scanner tomorrow. What can I say to him? Could the iodine have caused a lump or his thyroid to swell? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Jiska from Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 I think Anne is giving you some good advice. I would also consider doing ultrasound and thermography to check if you are concerned as neither would harm your body and both would likely give you more information than current tests listed without harming you. If you look on www.breastcancerchoices.org then the swelling of thyroid is typical reaction listed somewhere. I have seen throat swelling as early symptom mentioned many times in past 3 years on this list and remember experiencing it myself but at 50 mg was just temporary and over in few days. Iodine seems to work from top of body down so thyroid which only needs 3% of iodine will have its needs met pretty quickly if you would up the dose and follow the directions given in the iodine protocol. Salt is an essential part for detox and not optional. Seems like it would save a lot of grief to follow directions. Pam On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Anne Seals <anneseals@...> wrote: Well, my first thought is that a lot of us experience temporary swelling of the thyroid, until it gets enough iodine & shrinks again. So I would be inclined to try to get him to take his iodine faithfully for a while, to see if that happens. I would also rub Lugol's on his throat every night, & consider increasing the oral dose. It could be that he has given it just enough iodine to crave more, but not enough to take care of the job. Several people have reported these sorts of issues with low doses or in the early stages. The thyroid swells until it is satisfied. My second thought is that his refusal to take the salt could be compounding the problem. Everybody keeps saying that the salt is not optional. Have you sat him down & explained to him the difference between natural salt & processed salt? I would buy a blood pressure cuff (the kind they make for home use) & check his blood pressure after dosing with good salt. (I am assuming that is his concern.) There are a FEW people who cannot handle natural salt, but most people reportedly find that it does not have the negative effects of commercial processed salt. And my third thought is that if he tells the doc about the iodine, the doc is going to blame the iodine or tell him that he is poisoning himself or have some other negative & unhelpful reaction. Many docs are actively hostile to anything they didn't prescribe themselves, & most, as we keep hearing, know nothing about iodine. Talking to his doc about it is pretty much guaranteed not to help. It also seems to me that you have been perhaps a bit ambivalent about the iodine, in taking such a low dose... There are some situations where you really have to commit. Many people seem to be reporting that a low dose causes more problems than it solves. You have to look at the big picture here. If you go mainstream all the way, you are looking at radioactive dyes, biopsies, surgeries, & in the worst case, toxic therapies. They will tell you that iodine is bad, & give him a lot of stuff that is worse. If you want to go alternative, you probably need to bump up the iodine, take the salt more seriously, & generally commit to giving it a fair trial. If you are not happy with going alternative, you can always go back to the docs. But if you let the docs have at him first, a lot of that " treatment " is hard to recover from. You are definitely at a crossroads, where you have to choose & commit to a course of action. And it all boils down to what makes you feel safer. If you feel safer turning your choices over to the docs, then that is what you should do. (It is certainly not what *I* would do. But this is a choice you have to figure out for yourselves.) And if you feel safer taking alternative approaches, you have to commit to that. Good luck.AnneOn Jan 12, 2011, at 12:00 AM, ozchristensen wrote: Hi all, I have been lurking here for years, bought and read Dr Brownstein's book " Iodine " . I started on first one drop of Lugols, and worked up to 4 drops and have stayed there. Its been about 8 months since we started. We never did any bloodwork because we never intended to go higher with the iodine. My husband has been doing the same as me, although not as regular because when he works away, he obviously doesn't get any. Before Christmas he was away for nearly a month. Same with the companion nutrients. The salt he never wanted, he couldn't see that would be good for anyone. Anyway, now my husband feels he has a lump in the throat, and he has difficulty swallowing. It might be unrelated with the iodine, but he feel it is very coincidental, which I feel too. De GP ordered bloodtests and an ultrasound. For the ultrasound my husband needs to swallow Barium. My father-in-law just died 6 months ago of cancer in a fierce 2-day reaction to the Chemo , so obviously my husband doesn't want to go there with the Barium. I feel he needs to keep the iodine up, he feels he just wants that lump gone. He wants to tell the GP about the iodine, I'm not sure whether he should. He has an appointment with a thermography scanner tomorrow. What can I say to him? Could the iodine have caused a lump or his thyroid to swell? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Jiska from Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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