Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 well let me say welcome, I to have the Advanced bionices scs got it in 2007. I have to say it helps very little for my paink. I have RSD in lower left leg that is now in my hip and lower back. But i dont know why you cant get pain meds with the scs I have and still do every mo from my Dr. maybe its that way where you are from. It is diff in each state. I hope you can find some Dr to help you lower your pain. suzy > > Hi my name is Jinny and I am a newbie. > > I have an Advanced Bionics SCS (now Boston Scientific) placed in 2006. After a recent hospitalization a neuro told me the SCS will only be good for 5 years?? Is this true?? > > Also has anyone else had trouble with the SCS not relieving their pain?? It did when first put in but has slacked off...I was also on methadone but I lost my pain management specialist in February and had to wean off it....now I am back in daily pain and walking hunched over...the other docs in the area seem to think that with a SCS you don't need pain meds, but I am not getting relief. Any suggestions??? > > Thanks, > Jinny > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Hi Jinny, I've had my Advanced Bionics stimulator since April 2007! I've had no problems with it! I was also told that the battery life was 5 years, but that it could last longer. I certainly hope so! Good luck, Jet Sent from my iPhone On May 14, 2009, at 11:49 AM, " irishrose9220 " <irishrose92205@...> wrote: Hi my name is Jinny and I am a newbie. I have an Advanced Bionics SCS (now Boston Scientific) placed in 2006. After a recent hospitalization a neuro told me the SCS will only be good for 5 years?? Is this true?? Also has anyone else had trouble with the SCS not relieving their pain?? It did when first put in but has slacked off...I was also on methadone but I lost my pain management specialist in February and had to wean off it....now I am back in daily pain and walking hunched over...the other docs in the area seem to think that with a SCS you don't need pain meds, but I am not getting relief. Any suggestions??? Thanks, Jinny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Jinny scs is good longer then 5 years the battery in the older unit last about 5 years. but the scs last for longtime over time you get use to it and it dord happen that stops working as good becuse your body and pain get use to it. about your pain tell me where you live and i can find a good psin doctot for you. mike group owner > > Hi my name is Jinny and I am a newbie. > > I have an Advanced Bionics SCS (now Boston Scientific) placed in 2006. After a recent hospitalization a neuro told me the SCS will only be good for 5 years?? Is this true?? > > Also has anyone else had trouble with the SCS not relieving their pain?? It did when first put in but has slacked off...I was also on methadone but I lost my pain management specialist in February and had to wean off it....now I am back in daily pain and walking hunched over...the other docs in the area seem to think that with a SCS you don't need pain meds, but I am not getting relief. Any suggestions??? > > Thanks, > Jinny > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Hi Mike, I live in Port St Lucie Florida.? I have been discharged from Dr o Duran's office, the one that but my stimulator in.? My former doctors Dr Alvarez and Levine won't take me back because I left them to go to Dr Duran (they had a nasty split) and the amount of methadone Duran was RX'ing me (480 tabs).? Duran only wrote it like that for an if you need it, I usually only medicated every morning before I got up.? The 480 lasted me months saved me from having to go see Duran every month and because I am a nurse and we had a 6 year relationship he knew he could trust me.? That has been my problem, others docs see that and they think I'm drug seeking.? I was recently hospitalized for 11 days with a massive Gi bleed- it took me three 011 trips to the ER before they took me seriously, they too thought I was drug seeking.? I have gone to the Nat'l Pain Institute (Dr Afong), he's the one that told me no more pain pills with the SCS, he even took my bottle of Percocet away for breakthrough pain! I have been off methadone now for a month.? My pain is once again off the charts and my SCS doesn't even come close to taking it away.? The pain literally exhausts me..I have no energy and I am hubched over again.? Between that and my autoimmune diseaase flaring I am totally miserable and unhappy.? I just feel I have no quality of life, living this way.? I apologize for sounding so negative, but that's how I feel.? I had one neurologist come in to see me in the hospital.? He told me the SCS will become ineffective and the only way to get a grip on my pain is through anInpatient program in Miami, PT and learn how to mentally block it.? That's crap.? My back has been opened 12 times due to reconstructive back surgery, and osteomyelitis with MRSA, that almost killed me it was so bad they had to airlift me to the U of Florida at Shands.? I am so far beyond PT and biofeedback, Tylenol.? I have been told the scar tissue is so dense in my back it's as tough as gristle in a steak, thewy couldn't even get through it to do the epidurals, rhizotomies.? I am getting a little relief from Lidoderm patches. So Mike that's where I'm at, thanks for listening.? There are also 2 pain clinics that opened in my neighborhood recently- Dr Fox and Dr King- cash only so you know what's going on there....must be another pill factory.? All you want for $400 cash. Have a good day, I look forward to hearing from you... Jinny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 here a great pain doctor in your area that treat with pain meds Dr. Loretha King Pain Management Physician 3221SW Port St Lucie Blvd Darwin Square Pain Management Port Saint Lucie, FL 34953 > > Hi Mike, > > I live in Port St Lucie Florida.? I have been discharged from Dr o Duran's office, the one that but my stimulator in.? My former doctors Dr Alvarez and Levine won't take me back because I left them to go to Dr Duran (they had a nasty split) and the amount of methadone Duran was RX'ing me (480 tabs).? Duran only wrote it like that for an if you need it, I usually only medicated every morning before I got up.? The 480 lasted me months saved me from having to go see Duran every month and because I am a nurse and we had a 6 year relationship he knew he could trust me.? That has been my problem, others docs see that and they think I'm drug seeking.? I was recently hospitalized for 11 days with a massive Gi bleed- it took me three 011 trips to the ER before they took me seriously, they too thought I was drug seeking.? I have gone to the Nat'l Pain Institute (Dr Afong), he's the one that told me no more pain pills with the SCS, he even took my bottle of Percocet away for breakthrough pain! > > I have been off methadone now for a month.? My pain is once again off the charts and my SCS doesn't even come close to taking it away.? The pain literally exhausts me..I have no energy and I am hubched over again.? Between that and my autoimmune diseaase flaring I am totally miserable and unhappy.? I just feel I have no quality of life, living this way.? I apologize for sounding so negative, but that's how I feel.? I had one neurologist come in to see me in the hospital.? He told me the SCS will become ineffective and the only way to get a grip on my pain is through anInpatient program in Miami, PT and learn how to mentally block it.? That's crap.? My back has been opened 12 times due to reconstructive back surgery, and osteomyelitis with MRSA, that almost killed me it was so bad they had to airlift me to the U of Florida at Shands.? I am so far beyond PT and biofeedback, Tylenol.? I have been told the scar tissue is so dense in my back it's as tough as gristle in a steak, thewy couldn't even get through it to do the epidurals, rhizotomies.? I am getting a little relief from Lidoderm patches. > > So Mike that's where I'm at, thanks for listening.? There are also 2 pain clinics that opened in my neighborhood recently- Dr Fox and Dr King- cash only so you know what's going on there....must be another pill factory.? All you want for $400 cash. > > Have a good day, I look forward to hearing from you... > > Jinny > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Mike Dr King is one of the docs I mentioned toward the end of my post...she doesn't accept insurance and I am on Medicare.? That's my problem the 2 closet PM docs don't take insurance.... Jinny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 ok let me find you a doctor that takes medicare give me time mike group owner--- In Stimulator , Jinny -Donohue <irishrose92205@...> wrote: > > Mike Dr King is one of the docs I mentioned toward the end of my post...she doesn't accept insurance and I am on Medicare.? That's my problem the 2 closet PM docs don't take insurance.... > > Jinny > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 , Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle the question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff, too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to justify charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her SSI checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively painless to do. Good luck. L. From: sunshinebeaches3@... Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM ipaddunite Subject: question for the group When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has the $$ to pay rent. Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office, I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting.......but it seemed to go extremely well. H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 , Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle the question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff, too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to justify charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her SSI checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively painless to do. Good luck. L. From: sunshinebeaches3@... Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM ipaddunite Subject: question for the group When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has the $$ to pay rent. Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office, I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting.......but it seemed to go extremely well. H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Okay, I will keep that in mind. Also, someone here on this group told me that I really would need to charge more than $250 to get the full amount, so I guess there is another variation to what works and what doesn't, LOL It's so crazy!! Why can't there just be a black and white to this procedure? It doesn't seem like it should be something that has so many gray areas, you know. H. Re: question for the group , Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle the uestion of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff, oo. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the uestions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to ustify charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened n our case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when er SSI checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks or room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the rocess was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also elatively painless to do. Good luck. .. rom: sunshinebeaches3@... ent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM o: ipaddunite ubject: question for the group When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your hild gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has he $$ to pay rent. nyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office, I ad his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test scores one in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill out. It as so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting.......but it eemed to go extremely well. ary H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Okay, I will keep that in mind. Also, someone here on this group told me that I really would need to charge more than $250 to get the full amount, so I guess there is another variation to what works and what doesn't, LOL It's so crazy!! Why can't there just be a black and white to this procedure? It doesn't seem like it should be something that has so many gray areas, you know. H. Re: question for the group , Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle the uestion of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff, oo. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the uestions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to ustify charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened n our case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when er SSI checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks or room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the rocess was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also elatively painless to do. Good luck. .. rom: sunshinebeaches3@... ent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM o: ipaddunite ubject: question for the group When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your hild gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has he $$ to pay rent. nyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office, I ad his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test scores one in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill out. It as so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting.......but it eemed to go extremely well. ary H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20 yrs old and has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a month. I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on your taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which seams odd but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the right thing? Any info will help. Thanks, Liz ________________________________ From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM Subject: Re: question for the group  , Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle the question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff, too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to justify charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her SSI checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively painless to do. Good luck. L. From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM ipaddunite@gro ups.com Subject: question for the group When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has the $$ to pay rent. Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office, I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting..... ..but it seemed to go extremely well. H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20 yrs old and has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a month. I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on your taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which seams odd but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the right thing? Any info will help. Thanks, Liz ________________________________ From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM Subject: Re: question for the group  , Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle the question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff, too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to justify charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her SSI checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively painless to do. Good luck. L. From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM ipaddunite@gro ups.com Subject: question for the group When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has the $$ to pay rent. Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office, I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting..... ..but it seemed to go extremely well. H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 I was told $300, and that is what we charged. Re: question for the group , Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle the uestion of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff, oo. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the uestions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to ustify charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened n our case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when er SSI checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks or room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the rocess was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also elatively painless to do. Good luck. . rom: sunshinebeaches3@... ent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM o: ipaddunite ubject: question for the group When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your hild gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has he $$ to pay rent. nyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office, I ad his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test scores one in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill out. It as so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting.......but it eemed to go extremely well. ary H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 I was told $300, and that is what we charged. Re: question for the group , Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle the uestion of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff, oo. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the uestions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to ustify charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened n our case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when er SSI checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks or room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the rocess was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also elatively painless to do. Good luck. . rom: sunshinebeaches3@... ent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM o: ipaddunite ubject: question for the group When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your hild gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has he $$ to pay rent. nyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office, I ad his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test scores one in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill out. It as so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting.......but it eemed to go extremely well. ary H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Liz, you should get tax advice from a pro. Parents all over the US charge their adult children ROOM AND BOARD (notice I said Room and Board and not rent) and it doesn't get reported on anyone's taxes. As long as the adult children are paying their share (or less) of the household expenses, then it doesn't have to be reported. I've double checked this with a CPA (I'm a tax preparer), the IRS, and an online forum that is geared for accountants and tax professionals. > > Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20 yrs old and has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a month. I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on your taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which seams odd but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the right thing? > Any info will help. > > Thanks, Liz > > > ________________________________ > From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...> > IPADDUnite > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM > Subject: Re: question for the group > >  > , > > Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle the question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff, too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to justify charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her SSI checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively painless to do. > > Good luck. > L. > > From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM > ipaddunite@gro ups.com > Subject: question for the group > > When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has the $$ to pay rent. > Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office, I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting..... ...but it seemed to go extremely well. > H. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Liz, you should get tax advice from a pro. Parents all over the US charge their adult children ROOM AND BOARD (notice I said Room and Board and not rent) and it doesn't get reported on anyone's taxes. As long as the adult children are paying their share (or less) of the household expenses, then it doesn't have to be reported. I've double checked this with a CPA (I'm a tax preparer), the IRS, and an online forum that is geared for accountants and tax professionals. > > Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20 yrs old and has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a month. I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on your taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which seams odd but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the right thing? > Any info will help. > > Thanks, Liz > > > ________________________________ > From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...> > IPADDUnite > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM > Subject: Re: question for the group > >  > , > > Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle the question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff, too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to justify charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her SSI checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively painless to do. > > Good luck. > L. > > From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM > ipaddunite@gro ups.com > Subject: question for the group > > When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has the $$ to pay rent. > Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office, I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting..... ...but it seemed to go extremely well. > H. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Sherri should answer, but in the interim, if you say room and board and the share is in excess of their SSI check you have a problem, and in fact less, you have a problem. Room and Board ONLY works for SSI with out a reduction when the true share is paid and it doesn't exceed the SSI amount. P.S. I am a former IRS Agent and former IRS Attorney. Rubin The Law Offices of Rubin & Associates (E) @... (W) www.Rubin.com (O) 847-279-7999 (F) 847-279-0090 Member by invitation of SNA, Special Needs Alliance (www.specialneedsalliance.org), the national, non-profit association of experienced " Special Needs Planning " Attorneys (member of the SNA Board of Directors), as well as a member of NAELA, the National Academy of Elder Law Attorneys (www.NAELA.org), and serves on NAELA's Special Needs Law Steering Committee. Rubin has been awarded the dale Hubbell Peer Review Rating of AV Preeminent (www.martindale.com). PLEASE NOTE: BRIAN RUBIN IS NOT IN HIS OFFICE. THIS MESSAGE WAS SENT FROM HIS BLACKBERRY. The information contained in this transmission is privileged, confidential, and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please notify Rubin by email, delete the message, and destroy and/or deleté the original message and all copies. This message is not intended or written to be used, and may not be used, for the purpose of avoiding any penalties which may be imposed by the I.R.S. ________________________________ From: IPADDUnite <IPADDUnite > IPADDUnite <IPADDUnite > Sent: Wed May 12 19:09:34 2010 Subject: Re: question for the group Liz, you should get tax advice from a pro. Parents all over the US charge their adult children ROOM AND BOARD (notice I said Room and Board and not rent) and it doesn't get reported on anyone's taxes. As long as the adult children are paying their share (or less) of the household expenses, then it doesn't have to be reported. I've double checked this with a CPA (I'm a tax preparer), the IRS, and an online forum that is geared for accountants and tax professionals. > > Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20 yrs old and has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a month. I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on your taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which seams odd but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the right thing? > Any info will help. > > Thanks, Liz > > > ________________________________ > From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...> > IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40> > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM > Subject: Re: question for the group > >  > , > > Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle the question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff, too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to justify charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her SSI checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively painless to do. > > Good luck. > L. > > From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM > ipaddunite@gro ups.com > Subject: question for the group > > When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has the $$ to pay rent. > Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office, I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting..... ...but it seemed to go extremely well. > H. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Sherri should answer, but in the interim, if you say room and board and the share is in excess of their SSI check you have a problem, and in fact less, you have a problem. Room and Board ONLY works for SSI with out a reduction when the true share is paid and it doesn't exceed the SSI amount. P.S. I am a former IRS Agent and former IRS Attorney. Rubin The Law Offices of Rubin & Associates (E) @... (W) www.Rubin.com (O) 847-279-7999 (F) 847-279-0090 Member by invitation of SNA, Special Needs Alliance (www.specialneedsalliance.org), the national, non-profit association of experienced " Special Needs Planning " Attorneys (member of the SNA Board of Directors), as well as a member of NAELA, the National Academy of Elder Law Attorneys (www.NAELA.org), and serves on NAELA's Special Needs Law Steering Committee. Rubin has been awarded the dale Hubbell Peer Review Rating of AV Preeminent (www.martindale.com). PLEASE NOTE: BRIAN RUBIN IS NOT IN HIS OFFICE. THIS MESSAGE WAS SENT FROM HIS BLACKBERRY. The information contained in this transmission is privileged, confidential, and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please notify Rubin by email, delete the message, and destroy and/or deleté the original message and all copies. This message is not intended or written to be used, and may not be used, for the purpose of avoiding any penalties which may be imposed by the I.R.S. ________________________________ From: IPADDUnite <IPADDUnite > IPADDUnite <IPADDUnite > Sent: Wed May 12 19:09:34 2010 Subject: Re: question for the group Liz, you should get tax advice from a pro. Parents all over the US charge their adult children ROOM AND BOARD (notice I said Room and Board and not rent) and it doesn't get reported on anyone's taxes. As long as the adult children are paying their share (or less) of the household expenses, then it doesn't have to be reported. I've double checked this with a CPA (I'm a tax preparer), the IRS, and an online forum that is geared for accountants and tax professionals. > > Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20 yrs old and has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a month. I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on your taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which seams odd but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the right thing? > Any info will help. > > Thanks, Liz > > > ________________________________ > From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...> > IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40> > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM > Subject: Re: question for the group > >  > , > > Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle the question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff, too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to justify charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her SSI checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively painless to do. > > Good luck. > L. > > From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM > ipaddunite@gro ups.com > Subject: question for the group > > When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has the $$ to pay rent. > Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office, I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting..... ...but it seemed to go extremely well. > H. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Social Security acknowledges FOUR different Federal Living Arrangement Categories: CATEGORY A - Living in OWN Household. -     -Either: You live in your own household, or, you live in a foster care situation, or, you are homeless or have no permanent living arrangement, or, you live in an institution for all or part of a month AND Medicaid does not pay more than 50% of the cost of your care (You do NOT fit in this category if you are considered an inmate of a public institution such as a prison) or, you live alone or, You live only with your child, spouse, or persons whose income is being used to compute the amount of your SSI check or, you do not fit in categories B, C or D below  ****** In Category A, The Maximum Federal SSI Money is used to compute the SSI check. If someone is " helping " to pay your food and/or housing costs, deductions may be taken from the SSI maximum. CATEGORY B - Living in the Household of Another You MUST meet BOTH of the following conditions: 1) You live in a household other than your own throughout a month with at least one other person who is not your child, your spouse, or an ineligible person whose income is being used to compute the amount of your SSI check AND 2) You receive food and housing from someone in that household  ********In Category B, The Federal SSI money is reduced by 1/3 because another person helps pay for your food and housing costs.  CATEGORY C - Child Living in Parents' Household You MUST meet BOTH of the following conditions: 1) You are under 18 years old AND 2) You live in the same household as your parents.  ********In Category C, the Maximum Federal SSI money is used to compute the SSI check CATEGORY D - Medicaid Facility You MUST meet BOTH of the following conditions: 1) You live in a public or private medical institution throughout a month AND 2) Medicaid is paying more than 50% of the cost of your care  *******In Category D, the Federal SSI Money cannot exceed $30.00 " RENT " & " ROOM & BOARD " have grown out of Category A. These are more tax & legal issues rather than benefit issues.  Before I consider the options, I have my clients consult with their CPA or accountant as the option picked may give the adult child more SSI monthly money but it may also have a negative impact on the parent/landlord. There are many questions about this such as: 1) do I have to claim " rental income " on my taxes? 2) is my neighborhood zoned for rental property? 3) will my home's value depreciate when I sell it? 4) can I still claim my adult/child on my taxes? 5) is it just room or just board or just rent?   Social Security will also consider: " sharing household expenses. " (Grew out of Category Under this living arrangement, Social Security will ask for all household expenses: - rent or mortgage - property taxes - property insurance - necessary utility expenses....etc and they will divide this by the number of people in the household. If the SSI recipient's share is HIGHER than they receive ($674 from SSI+ any other monthly income they may receive), this will result in the 1/3 reduction of the SSI since the SSI recipient is receiving " help " . I hope the above explanation helps. All of the this information can be found in the Social Security rules.       ________________________________ From: cmfinato <cmfinato@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 6:09:34 PM Subject: Re: question for the group Liz, you should get tax advice from a pro. Parents all over the US charge their adult children ROOM AND BOARD (notice I said Room and Board and not rent) and it doesn't get reported on anyone's taxes. As long as the adult children are paying their share (or less) of the household expenses, then it doesn't have to be reported. I've double checked this with a CPA (I'm a tax preparer), the IRS, and an online forum that is geared for accountants and tax professionals. > > Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20 yrs old and has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a month. I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on your taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which seams odd but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the right thing? > Any info will help. > > Thanks, Liz > > > ________________________________ > From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...> > IPADDUnite > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM > Subject: Re: question for the group > >  > , > > Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle the question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff, too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to justify charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her SSI checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively painless to do. > > Good luck. > L. > > From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM > ipaddunite@gro ups.com > Subject: question for the group > > When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has the $$ to pay rent. > Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office, I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting..... ...but it seemed to go extremely well. > H. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Social Security acknowledges FOUR different Federal Living Arrangement Categories: CATEGORY A - Living in OWN Household. -     -Either: You live in your own household, or, you live in a foster care situation, or, you are homeless or have no permanent living arrangement, or, you live in an institution for all or part of a month AND Medicaid does not pay more than 50% of the cost of your care (You do NOT fit in this category if you are considered an inmate of a public institution such as a prison) or, you live alone or, You live only with your child, spouse, or persons whose income is being used to compute the amount of your SSI check or, you do not fit in categories B, C or D below  ****** In Category A, The Maximum Federal SSI Money is used to compute the SSI check. If someone is " helping " to pay your food and/or housing costs, deductions may be taken from the SSI maximum. CATEGORY B - Living in the Household of Another You MUST meet BOTH of the following conditions: 1) You live in a household other than your own throughout a month with at least one other person who is not your child, your spouse, or an ineligible person whose income is being used to compute the amount of your SSI check AND 2) You receive food and housing from someone in that household  ********In Category B, The Federal SSI money is reduced by 1/3 because another person helps pay for your food and housing costs.  CATEGORY C - Child Living in Parents' Household You MUST meet BOTH of the following conditions: 1) You are under 18 years old AND 2) You live in the same household as your parents.  ********In Category C, the Maximum Federal SSI money is used to compute the SSI check CATEGORY D - Medicaid Facility You MUST meet BOTH of the following conditions: 1) You live in a public or private medical institution throughout a month AND 2) Medicaid is paying more than 50% of the cost of your care  *******In Category D, the Federal SSI Money cannot exceed $30.00 " RENT " & " ROOM & BOARD " have grown out of Category A. These are more tax & legal issues rather than benefit issues.  Before I consider the options, I have my clients consult with their CPA or accountant as the option picked may give the adult child more SSI monthly money but it may also have a negative impact on the parent/landlord. There are many questions about this such as: 1) do I have to claim " rental income " on my taxes? 2) is my neighborhood zoned for rental property? 3) will my home's value depreciate when I sell it? 4) can I still claim my adult/child on my taxes? 5) is it just room or just board or just rent?   Social Security will also consider: " sharing household expenses. " (Grew out of Category Under this living arrangement, Social Security will ask for all household expenses: - rent or mortgage - property taxes - property insurance - necessary utility expenses....etc and they will divide this by the number of people in the household. If the SSI recipient's share is HIGHER than they receive ($674 from SSI+ any other monthly income they may receive), this will result in the 1/3 reduction of the SSI since the SSI recipient is receiving " help " . I hope the above explanation helps. All of the this information can be found in the Social Security rules.       ________________________________ From: cmfinato <cmfinato@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 6:09:34 PM Subject: Re: question for the group Liz, you should get tax advice from a pro. Parents all over the US charge their adult children ROOM AND BOARD (notice I said Room and Board and not rent) and it doesn't get reported on anyone's taxes. As long as the adult children are paying their share (or less) of the household expenses, then it doesn't have to be reported. I've double checked this with a CPA (I'm a tax preparer), the IRS, and an online forum that is geared for accountants and tax professionals. > > Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20 yrs old and has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a month. I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on your taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which seams odd but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the right thing? > Any info will help. > > Thanks, Liz > > > ________________________________ > From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...> > IPADDUnite > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM > Subject: Re: question for the group > >  > , > > Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle the question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff, too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to justify charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her SSI checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively painless to do. > > Good luck. > L. > > From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM > ipaddunite@gro ups.com > Subject: question for the group > > When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has the $$ to pay rent. > Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office, I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting..... ...but it seemed to go extremely well. > H. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Hi Sherri, Thanks for the clarification. Many of us fall into Category A by default of not fitting into the other three categories. Thank goodness for the last 'or, you do not fit into categories B, C or D below'. L. From: Sherri Schneider Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:02 AM IPADDUnite Subject: Re: Re: question for the group Social Security acknowledges FOUR different Federal Living Arrangement Categories: CATEGORY A - Living in OWN Household. - -Either: You live in your own household, or, you live in a foster care situation, or, you are homeless or have no permanent living arrangement, or, you live in an institution for all or part of a month AND Medicaid does not pay more than 50% of the cost of your care (You do NOT fit in this category if you are considered an inmate of a public institution such as a prison) or, you live alone or, You live only with your child, spouse, or persons whose income is being used to compute the amount of your SSI check or, you do not fit in categories B, C or D below ****** In Category A, The Maximum Federal SSI Money is used to compute the SSI check. If someone is " helping " to pay your food and/or housing costs, deductions may be taken from the SSI maximum. CATEGORY B - Living in the Household of Another You MUST meet BOTH of the following conditions: 1) You live in a household other than your own throughout a month with at least one other person who is not your child, your spouse, or an ineligible person whose income is being used to compute the amount of your SSI check AND 2) You receive food and housing from someone in that household ********In Category B, The Federal SSI money is reduced by 1/3 because another person helps pay for your food and housing costs. CATEGORY C - Child Living in Parents' Household You MUST meet BOTH of the following conditions: 1) You are under 18 years old AND 2) You live in the same household as your parents. ********In Category C, the Maximum Federal SSI money is used to compute the SSI check CATEGORY D - Medicaid Facility You MUST meet BOTH of the following conditions: 1) You live in a public or private medical institution throughout a month AND 2) Medicaid is paying more than 50% of the cost of your care *******In Category D, the Federal SSI Money cannot exceed $30.00 " RENT " & " ROOM & BOARD " have grown out of Category A. These are more tax & legal issues rather than benefit issues. Before I consider the options, I have my clients consult with their CPA or accountant as the option picked may give the adult child more SSI monthly money but it may also have a negative impact on the parent/landlord. There are many questions about this such as: 1) do I have to claim " rental income " on my taxes? 2) is my neighborhood zoned for rental property? 3) will my home's value depreciate when I sell it? 4) can I still claim my adult/child on my taxes? 5) is it just room or just board or just rent? Social Security will also consider: " sharing household expenses. " (Grew out of Category Under this living arrangement, Social Security will ask for all household expenses: - rent or mortgage - property taxes - property insurance - necessary utility expenses....etc and they will divide this by the number of people in the household. If the SSI recipient's share is HIGHER than they receive ($674 from SSI+ any other monthly income they may receive), this will result in the 1/3 reduction of the SSI since the SSI recipient is receiving " help " . I hope the above explanation helps. All of the this information can be found in the Social Security rules. ________________________________ From: cmfinato <cmfinato@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 6:09:34 PM Subject: Re: question for the group Liz, you should get tax advice from a pro. Parents all over the US charge their adult children ROOM AND BOARD (notice I said Room and Board and not rent) and it doesn't get reported on anyone's taxes. As long as the adult children are paying their share (or less) of the household expenses, then it doesn't have to be reported. I've double checked this with a CPA (I'm a tax preparer), the IRS, and an online forum that is geared for accountants and tax professionals. > > Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20 yrs old and has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a month. I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on your taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which seams odd but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the right thing? > Any info will help. > > Thanks, Liz > > > ________________________________ > From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...> > IPADDUnite > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM > Subject: Re: question for the group > >  > , > > Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle the question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff, too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to justify charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her SSI checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively painless to do. > > Good luck. > L. > > From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM > ipaddunite@gro ups.com > Subject: question for the group > > When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has the $$ to pay rent. > Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office, I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting..... ...but it seemed to go extremely well. > H. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Hi Sherri, Thanks for the clarification. Many of us fall into Category A by default of not fitting into the other three categories. Thank goodness for the last 'or, you do not fit into categories B, C or D below'. L. From: Sherri Schneider Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:02 AM IPADDUnite Subject: Re: Re: question for the group Social Security acknowledges FOUR different Federal Living Arrangement Categories: CATEGORY A - Living in OWN Household. - -Either: You live in your own household, or, you live in a foster care situation, or, you are homeless or have no permanent living arrangement, or, you live in an institution for all or part of a month AND Medicaid does not pay more than 50% of the cost of your care (You do NOT fit in this category if you are considered an inmate of a public institution such as a prison) or, you live alone or, You live only with your child, spouse, or persons whose income is being used to compute the amount of your SSI check or, you do not fit in categories B, C or D below ****** In Category A, The Maximum Federal SSI Money is used to compute the SSI check. If someone is " helping " to pay your food and/or housing costs, deductions may be taken from the SSI maximum. CATEGORY B - Living in the Household of Another You MUST meet BOTH of the following conditions: 1) You live in a household other than your own throughout a month with at least one other person who is not your child, your spouse, or an ineligible person whose income is being used to compute the amount of your SSI check AND 2) You receive food and housing from someone in that household ********In Category B, The Federal SSI money is reduced by 1/3 because another person helps pay for your food and housing costs. CATEGORY C - Child Living in Parents' Household You MUST meet BOTH of the following conditions: 1) You are under 18 years old AND 2) You live in the same household as your parents. ********In Category C, the Maximum Federal SSI money is used to compute the SSI check CATEGORY D - Medicaid Facility You MUST meet BOTH of the following conditions: 1) You live in a public or private medical institution throughout a month AND 2) Medicaid is paying more than 50% of the cost of your care *******In Category D, the Federal SSI Money cannot exceed $30.00 " RENT " & " ROOM & BOARD " have grown out of Category A. These are more tax & legal issues rather than benefit issues. Before I consider the options, I have my clients consult with their CPA or accountant as the option picked may give the adult child more SSI monthly money but it may also have a negative impact on the parent/landlord. There are many questions about this such as: 1) do I have to claim " rental income " on my taxes? 2) is my neighborhood zoned for rental property? 3) will my home's value depreciate when I sell it? 4) can I still claim my adult/child on my taxes? 5) is it just room or just board or just rent? Social Security will also consider: " sharing household expenses. " (Grew out of Category Under this living arrangement, Social Security will ask for all household expenses: - rent or mortgage - property taxes - property insurance - necessary utility expenses....etc and they will divide this by the number of people in the household. If the SSI recipient's share is HIGHER than they receive ($674 from SSI+ any other monthly income they may receive), this will result in the 1/3 reduction of the SSI since the SSI recipient is receiving " help " . I hope the above explanation helps. All of the this information can be found in the Social Security rules. ________________________________ From: cmfinato <cmfinato@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 6:09:34 PM Subject: Re: question for the group Liz, you should get tax advice from a pro. Parents all over the US charge their adult children ROOM AND BOARD (notice I said Room and Board and not rent) and it doesn't get reported on anyone's taxes. As long as the adult children are paying their share (or less) of the household expenses, then it doesn't have to be reported. I've double checked this with a CPA (I'm a tax preparer), the IRS, and an online forum that is geared for accountants and tax professionals. > > Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20 yrs old and has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a month. I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on your taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which seams odd but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the right thing? > Any info will help. > > Thanks, Liz > > > ________________________________ > From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...> > IPADDUnite > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM > Subject: Re: question for the group > >  > , > > Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle the question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff, too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to justify charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her SSI checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively painless to do. > > Good luck. > L. > > From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM > ipaddunite@gro ups.com > Subject: question for the group > > When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has the $$ to pay rent. > Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office, I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting..... ...but it seemed to go extremely well. > H. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Thanks Sherri for the info. I've talked to you before at JUCO. It's just that I read some of the info here and just get totally confused. I'm just leaving things the way they are for now. Thanks again, Liz ________________________________ From: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 10:02:57 AM Subject: Re: Re: question for the group  Social Security acknowledges FOUR different Federal Living Arrangement Categories: CATEGORY A - Living in OWN Household. -     -Either: You live in your own household, or, you live in a foster care situation, or, you are homeless or have no permanent living arrangement, or, you live in an institution for all or part of a month AND Medicaid does not pay more than 50% of the cost of your care (You do NOT fit in this category if you are considered an inmate of a public institution such as a prison) or, you live alone or, You live only with your child, spouse, or persons whose income is being used to compute the amount of your SSI check or, you do not fit in categories B, C or D below  ****** In Category A, The Maximum Federal SSI Money is used to compute the SSI check. If someone is " helping " to pay your food and/or housing costs, deductions may be taken from the SSI maximum. CATEGORY B - Living in the Household of Another You MUST meet BOTH of the following conditions: 1) You live in a household other than your own throughout a month with at least one other person who is not your child, your spouse, or an ineligible person whose income is being used to compute the amount of your SSI check AND 2) You receive food and housing from someone in that household  ********In Category B, The Federal SSI money is reduced by 1/3 because another person helps pay for your food and housing costs.  CATEGORY C - Child Living in Parents' Household You MUST meet BOTH of the following conditions: 1) You are under 18 years old AND 2) You live in the same household as your parents.  ********In Category C, the Maximum Federal SSI money is used to compute the SSI check CATEGORY D - Medicaid Facility You MUST meet BOTH of the following conditions: 1) You live in a public or private medical institution throughout a month AND 2) Medicaid is paying more than 50% of the cost of your care  *******In Category D, the Federal SSI Money cannot exceed $30.00 " RENT " & " ROOM & BOARD " have grown out of Category A. These are more tax & legal issues rather than benefit issues.  Before I consider the options, I have my clients consult with their CPA or accountant as the option picked may give the adult child more SSI monthly money but it may also have a negative impact on the parent/landlord. There are many questions about this such as: 1) do I have to claim " rental income " on my taxes? 2) is my neighborhood zoned for rental property? 3) will my home's value depreciate when I sell it? 4) can I still claim my adult/child on my taxes? 5) is it just room or just board or just rent?   Social Security will also consider: " sharing household expenses. " (Grew out of Category Under this living arrangement, Social Security will ask for all household expenses: - rent or mortgage - property taxes - property insurance - necessary utility expenses....etc and they will divide this by the number of people in the household. If the SSI recipient's share is HIGHER than they receive ($674 from SSI+ any other monthly income they may receive), this will result in the 1/3 reduction of the SSI since the SSI recipient is receiving " help " . I hope the above explanation helps. All of the this information can be found in the Social Security rules.       ________________________________ From: cmfinato <cmfinato@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 6:09:34 PM Subject: Re: question for the group Liz, you should get tax advice from a pro. Parents all over the US charge their adult children ROOM AND BOARD (notice I said Room and Board and not rent) and it doesn't get reported on anyone's taxes. As long as the adult children are paying their share (or less) of the household expenses, then it doesn't have to be reported. I've double checked this with a CPA (I'm a tax preparer), the IRS, and an online forum that is geared for accountants and tax professionals. > > Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20 yrs old and has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a month. I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on your taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which seams odd but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the right thing? > Any info will help. > > Thanks, Liz > > > ________________________________ > From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...> > IPADDUnite > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM > Subject: Re: question for the group > >  > , > > Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle the question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff, too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to justify charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her SSI checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively painless to do. > > Good luck. > L. > > From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM > ipaddunite@gro ups.com > Subject: question for the group > > When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has the $$ to pay rent. > Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office, I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting..... ...but it seemed to go extremely well. > H. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Thanks Sherri for the info. I've talked to you before at JUCO. It's just that I read some of the info here and just get totally confused. I'm just leaving things the way they are for now. Thanks again, Liz ________________________________ From: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 10:02:57 AM Subject: Re: Re: question for the group  Social Security acknowledges FOUR different Federal Living Arrangement Categories: CATEGORY A - Living in OWN Household. -     -Either: You live in your own household, or, you live in a foster care situation, or, you are homeless or have no permanent living arrangement, or, you live in an institution for all or part of a month AND Medicaid does not pay more than 50% of the cost of your care (You do NOT fit in this category if you are considered an inmate of a public institution such as a prison) or, you live alone or, You live only with your child, spouse, or persons whose income is being used to compute the amount of your SSI check or, you do not fit in categories B, C or D below  ****** In Category A, The Maximum Federal SSI Money is used to compute the SSI check. If someone is " helping " to pay your food and/or housing costs, deductions may be taken from the SSI maximum. CATEGORY B - Living in the Household of Another You MUST meet BOTH of the following conditions: 1) You live in a household other than your own throughout a month with at least one other person who is not your child, your spouse, or an ineligible person whose income is being used to compute the amount of your SSI check AND 2) You receive food and housing from someone in that household  ********In Category B, The Federal SSI money is reduced by 1/3 because another person helps pay for your food and housing costs.  CATEGORY C - Child Living in Parents' Household You MUST meet BOTH of the following conditions: 1) You are under 18 years old AND 2) You live in the same household as your parents.  ********In Category C, the Maximum Federal SSI money is used to compute the SSI check CATEGORY D - Medicaid Facility You MUST meet BOTH of the following conditions: 1) You live in a public or private medical institution throughout a month AND 2) Medicaid is paying more than 50% of the cost of your care  *******In Category D, the Federal SSI Money cannot exceed $30.00 " RENT " & " ROOM & BOARD " have grown out of Category A. These are more tax & legal issues rather than benefit issues.  Before I consider the options, I have my clients consult with their CPA or accountant as the option picked may give the adult child more SSI monthly money but it may also have a negative impact on the parent/landlord. There are many questions about this such as: 1) do I have to claim " rental income " on my taxes? 2) is my neighborhood zoned for rental property? 3) will my home's value depreciate when I sell it? 4) can I still claim my adult/child on my taxes? 5) is it just room or just board or just rent?   Social Security will also consider: " sharing household expenses. " (Grew out of Category Under this living arrangement, Social Security will ask for all household expenses: - rent or mortgage - property taxes - property insurance - necessary utility expenses....etc and they will divide this by the number of people in the household. If the SSI recipient's share is HIGHER than they receive ($674 from SSI+ any other monthly income they may receive), this will result in the 1/3 reduction of the SSI since the SSI recipient is receiving " help " . I hope the above explanation helps. All of the this information can be found in the Social Security rules.       ________________________________ From: cmfinato <cmfinato@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 6:09:34 PM Subject: Re: question for the group Liz, you should get tax advice from a pro. Parents all over the US charge their adult children ROOM AND BOARD (notice I said Room and Board and not rent) and it doesn't get reported on anyone's taxes. As long as the adult children are paying their share (or less) of the household expenses, then it doesn't have to be reported. I've double checked this with a CPA (I'm a tax preparer), the IRS, and an online forum that is geared for accountants and tax professionals. > > Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20 yrs old and has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a month. I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on your taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which seams odd but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the right thing? > Any info will help. > > Thanks, Liz > > > ________________________________ > From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...> > IPADDUnite > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM > Subject: Re: question for the group > >  > , > > Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle the question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff, too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to justify charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her SSI checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively painless to do. > > Good luck. > L. > > From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM > ipaddunite@gro ups.com > Subject: question for the group > > When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has the $$ to pay rent. > Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office, I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting..... ...but it seemed to go extremely well. > H. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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