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Sherri,

If there has been a hospitalization within the month, which Medicaid paid for,

will that affect SSI if the full amount is being received? What are SSI rules

regarding hospital admissions? How would I know if Medicaid has paid more or

less than 50%?

W.

> >

> > Hi all,  I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son.  He is 20 yrs

old and has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something

a month.  I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the

amt on your taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. 

(Which seams odd but I didn't want to deal with it) .  Can anyone tell me if

I'm doing the right thing? 

> > Any info will help.

> >

> > Thanks,  Liz

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@>

> > IPADDUnite

> > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM

> > Subject: Re: question for the group

> >

> >  

> > ,

> >

> > Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle

the question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between

staff, too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the

questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to justify

charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our

case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her SSI

checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for

room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process

was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively

painless to do.

> >

> > Good luck.

> > L.

> >

> > From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com

> > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM

> > ipaddunite@gro ups.com

> > Subject: question for the group

> >

> > When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your

child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has

the $$ to pay rent.

> > Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge

office, I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and

test scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to

fill out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting.....

...but it seemed to go extremely well.

> > H.

> >

> >

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Sherri,

If there has been a hospitalization within the month, which Medicaid paid for,

will that affect SSI if the full amount is being received? What are SSI rules

regarding hospital admissions? How would I know if Medicaid has paid more or

less than 50%?

W.

> >

> > Hi all,  I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son.  He is 20 yrs

old and has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something

a month.  I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the

amt on your taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. 

(Which seams odd but I didn't want to deal with it) .  Can anyone tell me if

I'm doing the right thing? 

> > Any info will help.

> >

> > Thanks,  Liz

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@>

> > IPADDUnite

> > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM

> > Subject: Re: question for the group

> >

> >  

> > ,

> >

> > Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle

the question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between

staff, too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the

questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to justify

charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our

case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her SSI

checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for

room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process

was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively

painless to do.

> >

> > Good luck.

> > L.

> >

> > From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com

> > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM

> > ipaddunite@gro ups.com

> > Subject: question for the group

> >

> > When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your

child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has

the $$ to pay rent.

> > Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge

office, I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and

test scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to

fill out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting.....

...but it seemed to go extremely well.

> > H.

> >

> >

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If the hospitalization was less than 30 days, it will not effect SSI.

For Community Medicaid, it does not pay a % of the bill.

They pay one of three ways:

DRG - Diagnosis Related Grouping - this is how inpatient stays get paid

         Medicaid has a certain amount that they pay per diagnosis -

regardless of bill amount

or

Per Diem - flat amount per day to the hospital

or

Fee for Service

        - certain amount for the service provided.

        - this is how dr's get paid

CATEGORY D (below) is NOT talking about an acute care hospital stay. It is

referring to: state operated facilities, and ICF - where Medicaid pays for the

individual to live there.

 

________________________________

From: patswithers <mysticpatricia@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 12:54:41 AM

Subject: Re: question for the group

 

Sherri,

If there has been a hospitalization within the month, which Medicaid paid for,

will that affect SSI if the full amount is being received? What are SSI rules

regarding hospital admissions? How would I know if Medicaid has paid more or

less than 50%?

W.

> >

> > Hi all,  I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son.  He

is 20 yrs old and has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400

and something a month.  I was told not to charge him rent because you

need to include the amt on your taxes and that your home is listed

then as rental property.  (Which seams odd but I didn't want to

deal with it) .  Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the right

thing? 

> > Any info will help.

> >

> > Thanks,  Liz

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@>

> > IPADDUnite

> > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM

> > Subject: Re: question for the group

> >

> >  

> > ,

> >

> > Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle

the question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between

staff, too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the

questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to justify

charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our

case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her SSI

checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for

room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process

was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively

painless to do.

> >

> > Good luck.

> > L.

> >

> > From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com

> > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM

> > ipaddunite@gro ups.com

> > Subject: question for the group

> >

> > When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your

child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has

the $$ to pay rent.

> > Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge

office, I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and

test scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to

fill out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting.....

...but it seemed to go extremely well.

> > H.

> >

> >

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If the hospitalization was less than 30 days, it will not effect SSI.

For Community Medicaid, it does not pay a % of the bill.

They pay one of three ways:

DRG - Diagnosis Related Grouping - this is how inpatient stays get paid

         Medicaid has a certain amount that they pay per diagnosis -

regardless of bill amount

or

Per Diem - flat amount per day to the hospital

or

Fee for Service

        - certain amount for the service provided.

        - this is how dr's get paid

CATEGORY D (below) is NOT talking about an acute care hospital stay. It is

referring to: state operated facilities, and ICF - where Medicaid pays for the

individual to live there.

 

________________________________

From: patswithers <mysticpatricia@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 12:54:41 AM

Subject: Re: question for the group

 

Sherri,

If there has been a hospitalization within the month, which Medicaid paid for,

will that affect SSI if the full amount is being received? What are SSI rules

regarding hospital admissions? How would I know if Medicaid has paid more or

less than 50%?

W.

> >

> > Hi all,  I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son.  He

is 20 yrs old and has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400

and something a month.  I was told not to charge him rent because you

need to include the amt on your taxes and that your home is listed

then as rental property.  (Which seams odd but I didn't want to

deal with it) .  Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the right

thing? 

> > Any info will help.

> >

> > Thanks,  Liz

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@>

> > IPADDUnite

> > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM

> > Subject: Re: question for the group

> >

> >  

> > ,

> >

> > Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle

the question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between

staff, too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the

questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to justify

charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our

case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her SSI

checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for

room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process

was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively

painless to do.

> >

> > Good luck.

> > L.

> >

> > From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com

> > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM

> > ipaddunite@gro ups.com

> > Subject: question for the group

> >

> > When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your

child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has

the $$ to pay rent.

> > Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge

office, I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and

test scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to

fill out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting.....

...but it seemed to go extremely well.

> > H.

> >

> >

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it is Mackenzie Kenzie Pruddne

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From: cmfinato <cmfinato@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 6:09:34 PM

Subject: Re: question for the group

Liz, you should get tax advice from a pro. Parents all over the US charge their

adult children ROOM AND BOARD (notice I said Room and Board and not rent) and it

doesn't get reported on anyone's taxes. As long as the adult children are

paying their share (or less) of the household expenses, then it doesn't have to

be reported. I've double checked this with a CPA (I'm a tax preparer), the IRS,

and an online forum that is geared for accountants and tax professionals.

>

> Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20 yrs old

and

>has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a

month.Â

>I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on your

>taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which seams

odd

>but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the

right

>thing?Â

>

> Any info will help.

>

> Thanks, Liz

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...>

> IPADDUnite

> Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM

> Subject: Re: question for the group

>

> Â

> ,

>

> Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle

the

>question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff,

>too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the

>questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to

justify

>charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our

>case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her

SSI

>checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for

>room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process

>was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively

>painless to do.

>

>

> Good luck.

> L.

>

> From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com

> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM

> ipaddunite@gro ups.com

> Subject: question for the group

>

> When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your

>child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has

>the $$ to pay rent.

> Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office,

>I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test

>scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill

>out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting.....

>..but it seemed to go extremely well.

> H.

>

>

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Correct... I am a former IRS agent, and former IRS attorney, however, beware, if

the fair share is in excess of the SSI amount, then they still lose 1/3.

Rubin

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Law practice limited to

" future " & legal planning for Illinois families of children & adults with

intellectual or developmental disabilities, & /or mental illness...

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(F) 847-279-0090

(TF) 866-TO-RUBIN

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(www.specialneedsalliance.org association of experienced " Special Needs

Planning " Attorneys (member of the SNA Board of Directors), as well as a member

of NAELA, the National Academy of Elder Law Attorneys (www.NAELA.org), and

serves on NAELA's Special Needs Law Section Steering Committee.

Rubin has been awarded the dale Hubbell Peer Review Rating of AV

Preeminent (www.martindale.com).

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From: Prudden [mailto:julpru@...]

Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 07:18 PM

IPADDUnite <IPADDUnite >

Subject: Re: Re: question for the group

it is Mackenzie Kenzie Pruddne

________________________________

From: cmfinato <cmfinato@...<mailto:cmfinato%40>>

IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40>

Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 6:09:34 PM

Subject: Re: question for the group

Liz, you should get tax advice from a pro. Parents all over the US charge their

adult children ROOM AND BOARD (notice I said Room and Board and not rent) and it

doesn't get reported on anyone's taxes. As long as the adult children are

paying their share (or less) of the household expenses, then it doesn't have to

be reported. I've double checked this with a CPA (I'm a tax preparer), the IRS,

and an online forum that is geared for accountants and tax professionals.

>

> Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20 yrs old

and

>has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a

month.Â

>I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on your

>taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which seams

odd

>but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the

right

>thing?Â

>

> Any info will help.

>

> Thanks, Liz

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...>

> IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40>

> Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM

> Subject: Re: question for the group

>

> Â

> ,

>

> Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle

the

>question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff,

>too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the

>questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to

justify

>charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our

>case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her

SSI

>checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for

>room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process

>was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively

>painless to do.

>

>

> Good luck.

> L.

>

> From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com

> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM

> ipaddunite@gro ups.com

> Subject: question for the group

>

> When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your

>child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has

>the $$ to pay rent.

> Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office,

>I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test

>scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill

>out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting.....

>..but it seemed to go extremely well.

> H.

>

>

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Hi all,

We just got the last of some money my daughter inherited into a payback trust.

She is 21 but has not qualified for SSI because of it. Does anybody know how

long she has to wait to qualify now that the money is moved? Also, what type of

info (receipts etc...) should we start saving to prove her spending and income.

She only works 10 hours a week right now.

One more thing, if I start charging her R & B will SSA expect that I am charging

my other adult children living at home R & B too?

Thanks,

Wend Pligge and Ruth

From: N Rubin <brian@...>

Subject: Re: Re: question for the group

" IPADDUnite " <IPADDUnite >

Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 6:58 PM

 

Correct... I am a former IRS agent, and former IRS attorney, however,

beware, if the fair share is in excess of the SSI amount, then they still lose

1/3.

Rubin

The Law Offices of

Rubin & Associates

Law practice limited to

" future " & legal planning for Illinois families of children & adults with

intellectual or developmental disabilities, & /or mental illness...

(E) brian@...

(W) www.SNFP.net

(O) 847-279-7999

(F) 847-279-0090

(TF) 866-TO-RUBIN

Member by invitation of SNA, Special Needs Alliance

(www.specialneedsalliance.org association of experienced " Special Needs

Planning " Attorneys (member of the SNA Board of Directors), as well as a member

of NAELA, the National Academy of Elder Law Attorneys (www.NAELA.org), and

serves on NAELA's Special Needs Law Section Steering Committee.

Rubin has been awarded the dale Hubbell Peer Review Rating of AV

Preeminent (www.martindale.com).

PLEASE NOTE:

Rubin is not in his office. This message was sent from his Blackberry.

The information contained in this transmission is privileged, confidential, and

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not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure,

copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents

of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you received this transmission

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From: Prudden [mailto:julpru@...]

Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 07:18 PM

IPADDUnite <IPADDUnite >

Subject: Re: Re: question for the group

it is Mackenzie Kenzie Pruddne

________________________________

From: cmfinato <cmfinato@...<mailto:cmfinato%40>>

IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40>

Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 6:09:34 PM

Subject: Re: question for the group

Liz, you should get tax advice from a pro. Parents all over the US charge their

adult children ROOM AND BOARD (notice I said Room and Board and not rent) and it

doesn't get reported on anyone's taxes. As long as the adult children are

paying their share (or less) of the household expenses, then it doesn't have to

be reported. I've double checked this with a CPA (I'm a tax preparer), the IRS,

and an online forum that is geared for accountants and tax professionals.

>

> Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20 yrs old

and

>has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a

month.Â

>I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on your

>taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which seams

odd

>but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the

right

>thing?Â

>

> Any info will help.

>

> Thanks, Liz

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...>

> IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40>

> Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM

> Subject: Re: question for the group

>

> Â

> ,

>

> Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle

the

>question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff,

>too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the

>questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to

justify

>charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our

>case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her

SSI

>checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for

>room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process

>was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively

>painless to do.

>

>

> Good luck.

> L.

>

> From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com

> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM

> ipaddunite@gro ups.com

> Subject: question for the group

>

> When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your

>child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has

>the $$ to pay rent.

> Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office,

>I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test

>scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill

>out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting.....

>..but it seemed to go extremely well.

> H.

>

>

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Hi , There are a number of pittfalls in funding an OBRA trust. I don't

know if you consulted with an atty well versed in this topic or had a 'typical'

atty draft the trust. I offer the following as general information and not as

specific advice as I do not know the details of your situation. Assuming the

OBRA trust is written correctly with all the bells and whistles required by SSI

and IL Medicaid, and funded correctly, your child should be eligible for SSI

immediately following the transfer of her assets to the OBRA.

The attorney who drafted the trust should have obtained a tax ID # for the

trust. The attorney must have either obtained a court order or had your daughter

sign a power of attorney with a specific transfer power to authorize you to

transfer her money to the OBRA trust. Without a court order or specific power

under a POA, SSI may take the position you did not have the proper authority to

transfer your daughter's money into an OBRA Trust. I also hope the attorney who

drafted the trust advised you that you need to put $20 of your own money into

the trust first as " seed " money and then transfer your daughter's assets? This

is a little known rule but is a must if SSI is involved and the trust is created

by a parent or grandparent but without a court order. . You will be required to

keep excellent records to show the trust was spent ONLY for your child's

benefit. Unlike a typical 3rd party special needs trust, others cannot benefit

from the use of the funds in an OBRA trust. You may want to pick up a copy of

the book: SPECIAL NEEDS TRUST ADMINISTRATION MANUAL: a Guide for Trustees

written by Barbara Jackins. My firm (Spain, Spain & Varnet, P.C.) also offers

an annual training to our clients on how to manage a special needs trust so as

not to violate state and federal distribution rules. This year's training is

offered on April 30th. Our clients are given priority for registration but if

we have room, we allow others to register and attend.

As for charging your daughter room or board, SSI does not inquire if you are

charging your other children. You will need to cut yourself a check each month

from the SSI check to yourself as SSI will monitor that your daughter is

actually paying what you claim to be charging her. I recommend having the SSI

check direct deposited into a rep payee checking account as that will make it

easier to keep track of the distributions from her check. Terrie Varnet

________________________________

From: Pligge <wpligge@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 9:10:31 AM

Subject: Re: Re: question for the group

Hi all,

We just got the last of some money my daughter inherited into a payback trust.

She is 21 but has not qualified for SSI because of it. Does anybody know how

long she has to wait to qualify now that the money is moved? Also, what type of

info (receipts etc...) should we start saving to prove her spending and income.

She only works 10 hours a week right now.

One more thing, if I start charging her R & B will SSA expect that I am charging

my other adult children living at home R & B too?

Thanks,

Wend Pligge and Ruth

From: N Rubin <brian@...>

Subject: Re: Re: question for the group

" IPADDUnite " <IPADDUnite >

Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 6:58 PM

Correct... I am a former IRS agent, and former IRS attorney, however, beware, if

the fair share is in excess of the SSI amount, then they still lose 1/3.

Rubin

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IPADDUnite <IPADDUnite >

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it is Mackenzie Kenzie Pruddne

________________________________

From: cmfinato <cmfinato@...<mailto:cmfinato%40>>

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Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 6:09:34 PM

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Liz, you should get tax advice from a pro. Parents all over the US charge their

adult children ROOM AND BOARD (notice I said Room and Board and not rent) and it

doesn't get reported on anyone's taxes. As long as the adult children are

paying their share (or less) of the household expenses, then it doesn't have to

be reported. I've double checked this with a CPA (I'm a tax preparer), the IRS,

and an online forum that is geared for accountants and tax professionals.

>

> Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20 yrs old

and

>has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a

month.Â

>I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on your

>taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which seams

odd

>but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the

right

>thing?Â

>

> Any info will help.

>

> Thanks, Liz

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...>

> IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40>

> Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM

> Subject: Re: question for the group

>

> Â

> ,

>

> Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle

the

>question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff,

>too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the

>questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to

justify

>charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our

>case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her

SSI

>checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for

>room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process

>was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively

>painless to do.

>

>

> Good luck.

> L.

>

> From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com

> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM

> ipaddunite@gro ups.com

> Subject: question for the group

>

> When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your

>child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has

>the $$ to pay rent.

> Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office,

>I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test

>scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill

>out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting.....

>..but it seemed to go extremely well.

> H.

>

>

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Thank you. We have everything you mentioned with our Payback trust. I will start

trying to apply for SSI immediately.

Can she deposit her paychecks or SSI checks into the Payback Trust?

Pligge

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Subject: Re: Re: question for the group

" IPADDUnite " <IPADDUnite >

Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 6:58 PM

Correct... I am a former IRS agent, and former IRS attorney, however, beware, if

the fair share is in excess of the SSI amount, then they still lose 1/3.

Rubin

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" future " & legal planning for Illinois families of children & adults with

intellectual or developmental disabilities, & /or mental illness...

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From: Prudden [mailto:julpru@...]

Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 07:18 PM

IPADDUnite <IPADDUnite >

Subject: Re: Re: question for the group

it is Mackenzie Kenzie Pruddne

________________________________

From: cmfinato <cmfinato@...<mailto:cmfinato%40>>

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Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 6:09:34 PM

Subject: Re: question for the group

Liz, you should get tax advice from a pro. Parents all over the US charge their

adult children ROOM AND BOARD (notice I said Room and Board and not rent) and it

doesn't get reported on anyone's taxes. As long as the adult children are

paying their share (or less) of the household expenses, then it doesn't have to

be reported. I've double checked this with a CPA (I'm a tax preparer), the IRS,

and an online forum that is geared for accountants and tax professionals.

>

> Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20 yrs old

and

>has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a

month.Â

>I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on your

>taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which seams

odd

>but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the

right

>thing?Â

>

> Any info will help.

>

> Thanks, Liz

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...>

> IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40>

> Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM

> Subject: Re: question for the group

>

> Â

> ,

>

> Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle

the

>question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff,

>too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the

>questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to

justify

>charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our

>case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her

SSI

>checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for

>room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process

>was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively

>painless to do.

>

>

> Good luck.

> L.

>

> From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com

> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM

> ipaddunite@gro ups.com

> Subject: question for the group

>

> When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your

>child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has

>the $$ to pay rent.

> Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office,

>I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test

>scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill

>out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting.....

>..but it seemed to go extremely well.

> H.

>

>

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If she needs a payee, the ssi should be deposited into a payee bank account. I

would not deposit her paychecks into the payback trust. We would not want to

have too much money in there that will end up paying back Medicaid.

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From: Pligge <wpligge@...>

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Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 11:21:16 AM

Subject: Re: Re: question for the group

 

Thank you. We have everything you mentioned with our Payback trust. I will start

trying to apply for SSI immediately.

Can she deposit her paychecks or SSI checks into the Payback Trust?

Pligge

From: N Rubin <brian@...>

Subject: Re: Re: question for the group

" IPADDUnite " <IPADDUnite >

Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 6:58 PM

Correct... I am a former IRS agent, and former IRS attorney, however, beware, if

the fair share is in excess of the SSI amount, then they still lose 1/3.

Rubin

The Law Offices of

Rubin & Associates

Law practice limited to

" future " & legal planning for Illinois families of children & adults with

intellectual or developmental disabilities, & /or mental illness...

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(F) 847-279-0090

(TF) 866-TO-RUBIN

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(www.specialneedsalliance.org association of experienced " Special Needs

Planning " Attorneys (member of the SNA Board of Directors), as well as a member

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serves on NAELA's Special Needs Law Section Steering Committee.

Rubin has been awarded the dale Hubbell Peer Review Rating of AV

Preeminent (www.martindale.com).

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From: Prudden [mailto:julpru@...]

Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 07:18 PM

IPADDUnite <IPADDUnite >

Subject: Re: Re: question for the group

it is Mackenzie Kenzie Pruddne

________________________________

From: cmfinato <cmfinato@...<mailto:cmfinato%40>>

IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40>

Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 6:09:34 PM

Subject: Re: question for the group

Liz, you should get tax advice from a pro. Parents all over the US charge their

adult children ROOM AND BOARD (notice I said Room and Board and not rent) and it

doesn't get reported on anyone's taxes. As long as the adult children are

paying their share (or less) of the household expenses, then it doesn't have to

be reported. I've double checked this with a CPA (I'm a tax preparer), the IRS,

and an online forum that is geared for accountants and tax professionals.

>

> Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20 yrs old

and

>has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a

month.Â

>I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on your

>taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which seams

odd

>but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the

right

>thing?Â

>

> Any info will help.

>

> Thanks, Liz

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...>

> IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40>

> Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM

> Subject: Re: question for the group

>

> Â

> ,

>

> Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle

the

>question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between staff,

>too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the

>questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to

justify

>charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in our

>case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her

SSI

>checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for

>room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process

>was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively

>painless to do.

>

>

> Good luck.

> L.

>

> From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com

> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM

> ipaddunite@gro ups.com

> Subject: question for the group

>

> When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your

>child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has

>the $$ to pay rent.

> Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge office,

>I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test

>scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to fill

>out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting.....

>..but it seemed to go extremely well.

> H.

>

>

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I went all of the way back to the pediatrician (so birth) but my son didn't have

a lot of different doctors and specialists or testing. In 's case I can

almost guarantee their decision was based almost entirely on the paperwork from

the school.

H.

Re: Re: question for the group

When applying for SSI and listing doctors seen, and tests taken how far back do

hey want? If they want since birth this may take a while!

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HI SHERRI. IF THAT'S THE CASE, CAN bi-weekly child support checks of $250 to

total $500 per month get deposited into the rep payee account and NOT the

payback trust?

And attornies out there...... if the child supporyt gets deposited into the

payback trust, what are the requirements to getting the funds out to actually

use it? What type of accounting is necessary for withdrwling money from the

trust? and who is the accounting necessary for?

Thanks,

Diane S

>

> >

>

> > Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20 yrs old

and

>

> >has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a

month.Â

>

> >I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on your

>

> >taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which seams

odd

>

> >but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the

right

>

> >thing?Â

>

> >

>

> > Any info will help.

>

> >

>

> > Thanks, Liz

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ________________________________

>

> > From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@>

>

> > IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40>

>

> > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM

>

> > Subject: Re: question for the group

>

> >

>

> > Â

>

> > ,

>

> >

>

> > Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle

>

> the

>

> >question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between

staff,

>

> >too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the

>

> >questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to

>

> justify

>

> >charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in

our

>

> >case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her

>

> SSI

>

> >checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for

>

> >room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process

>

> >was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively

>

> >painless to do.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Good luck.

>

> > L.

>

> >

>

> > From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com

>

> > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM

>

> > ipaddunite@gro ups.com

>

> > Subject: question for the group

>

> >

>

> > When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your

>

> >child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has

>

> >the $$ to pay rent.

>

> > Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge

office,

>

> >I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test

>

> >scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to

fill

>

> >out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting.....

>

> >..but it seemed to go extremely well.

>

> > H.

>

> >

>

> >

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1. Under SSI rules (not applicable to SSDI) the support MUST go, and go by Court

order, not voluntarily, to a d4A or d4C Payback Trust. Usually depending on the

Judge and the County with jurisdiction over the Divorce, once the Court issues

the order, the Court washes it hands. However, SSA, if SSI, and HFS (Illinois

Medicaid Agency) have the right to question expenditures to make sure that they

are for the sole benefit of the beneficiary, and, to make sure that the

expenditures are not the type that would cause a reduction in the SSI amount,

and HFS has the right to see the expenditures to make sure that they are not the

type to cause a spend down. On my website I have an article on the impact of

divorce obligations on government benefits. Some SSA offices (downstate) have

been known to demand prior approval of expenditures.

Rubin

The Law Offices of

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" future " & legal planning for Illinois families of children & adults with

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(F) 847-279-0090

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(www.specialneedsalliance.org association of experienced " Special Needs

Planning " Attorneys (member of the SNA Board of Directors), as well as a member

of NAELA, the National Academy of Elder Law Attorneys (www.NAELA.org), and

serves on NAELA's Special Needs Law Section Steering Committee.

Rubin has been awarded the dale Hubbell Peer Review Rating of AV

Preeminent (www.martindale.com).

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From: swedegrl2005 [mailto:swedegrl@...]

Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 01:25 AM

IPADDUnite <IPADDUnite >

Subject: Re: question for the group

HI SHERRI. IF THAT'S THE CASE, CAN bi-weekly child support checks of $250 to

total $500 per month get deposited into the rep payee account and NOT the

payback trust?

And attornies out there...... if the child supporyt gets deposited into the

payback trust, what are the requirements to getting the funds out to actually

use it? What type of accounting is necessary for withdrwling money from the

trust? and who is the accounting necessary for?

Thanks,

Diane S

>

> >

>

> > Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20

yrs old and

>

> >has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a

month.Â

>

> >I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on your

>

> >taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which

seams odd

>

> >but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the

right

>

> >thing?Â

>

> >

>

> > Any info will help.

>

> >

>

> > Thanks, Liz

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ________________________________

>

> > From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@>

>

> > To:

IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40><mailto:IPADDUnit\

e%40>

>

> > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM

>

> > Subject: Re: question for the group

>

> >

>

> > Â

>

> > ,

>

> >

>

> > Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle

>

> the

>

> >question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between

staff,

>

> >too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the

>

> >questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to

>

> justify

>

> >charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in

our

>

> >case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her

>

> SSI

>

> >checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for

>

> >room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process

>

> >was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively

>

> >painless to do.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Good luck.

>

> > L.

>

> >

>

> > From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com

>

> > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM

>

> > ipaddunite@gro ups.com

>

> > Subject: question for the group

>

> >

>

> > When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your

>

> >child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has

>

> >the $$ to pay rent.

>

> > Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge

office,

>

> >I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test

>

> >scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to

fill

>

> >out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting.....

>

> >..but it seemed to go extremely well.

>

> > H.

>

> >

>

> >

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Child support is considered 'unearned' income. If it is deposited directly into

a rep payee account, it will result in a dollar for dollar loss of SSI. You must

obtain a court order directing the payment of child support to a d4A trust.

All distributions from the trust must be for the sole benefit of the

beneficiary. IL Medicaid and SSI will monitor the distribution of these funds

closely and improper management of the funds may result in a loss or decrease in

the amount of SSI received. The attorney who drafted the d4A trust and obtained

the court order should provide you with instructions on how to manage the trust

so you do not violate state or federal distribution rules.

Terrie Varnet

________________________________

From: swedegrl2005 <swedegrl@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Sun, February 6, 2011 1:25:56 AM

Subject: Re: question for the group

HI SHERRI. IF THAT'S THE CASE, CAN bi-weekly child support checks of $250 to

total $500 per month get deposited into the rep payee account and NOT the

payback trust?

And attornies out there...... if the child supporyt gets deposited into the

payback trust, what are the requirements to getting the funds out to actually

use it? What type of accounting is necessary for withdrwling money from the

trust? and who is the accounting necessary for?

Thanks,

Diane S

>

> >

>

> > Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20

yrs old

>and

>

> >has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a

>month.Â

>

> >I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on your

>

> >taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which

seams

>odd

>

> >but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the

>right

>

> >thing?Â

>

> >

>

> > Any info will help.

>

> >

>

> > Thanks, Liz

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ________________________________

>

> > From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@>

>

> > IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40>

>

> > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM

>

> > Subject: Re: question for the group

>

> >

>

> > Â

>

> > ,

>

> >

>

> > Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle

>

> the

>

> >question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between

>staff,

>

> >too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the

>

> >questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to

>

> justify

>

> >charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in

>our

>

> >case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her

>

> SSI

>

> >checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for

>

> >room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process

>

> >was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively

>

> >painless to do.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Good luck.

>

> > L.

>

> >

>

> > From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com

>

> > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM

>

> > ipaddunite@gro ups.com

>

> > Subject: question for the group

>

> >

>

> > When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your

>

> >child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has

>

> >the $$ to pay rent.

>

> > Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge

>office,

>

> >I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test

>

> >scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to

>fill

>

> >out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting.....

>

> >..but it seemed to go extremely well.

>

> > H.

>

> >

>

> >

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Diane, I would not deposit the child support into the rep payee account. Right

now, I'm battling SSA because when the first of the month falls on the weekend

or holiday, they make the deposit before, giving me two deposits in one month

and I'm over the $2000.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20 yrs

old and

> >

> > >has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a

month.Â

> >

> > >I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on

your

> >

> > >taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which

seams odd

> >

> > >but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the

right

> >

> > >thing?Â

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Any info will help.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Thanks, Liz

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > ________________________________

> >

> > > From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@>

> >

> > > IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40>

> >

> > > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM

> >

> > > Subject: Re: question for the group

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Â

> >

> > > ,

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices

handle

> >

> > the

> >

> > >question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between

staff,

> >

> > >too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the

> >

> > >questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to

> >

> > justify

> >

> > >charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in

our

> >

> > >case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when

her

> >

> > SSI

> >

> > >checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for

> >

> > >room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the

process

> >

> > >was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively

> >

> > >painless to do.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Good luck.

> >

> > > L.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com

> >

> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM

> >

> > > ipaddunite@gro ups.com

> >

> > > Subject: question for the group

> >

> > >

> >

> > > When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when

your

> >

> > >child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he

has

> >

> > >the $$ to pay rent.

> >

> > > Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge

office,

> >

> > >I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test

> >

> > >scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to

fill

> >

> > >out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting.....

> >

> > >..but it seemed to go extremely well.

> >

> > > H.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

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Diane-

ONLY SSI money should be deposited into the rep payee account. When you get your

end of the year Rep Payee Report, it tells you that SSI paid $_____. This should

match your checkbook. If other money was deposited into this account, your Rep

Payee Report amount will not match your check book.

As for Child Support:

- the amount paid will affect your SSI amount paid and could jeopardize this

benefit & could jeopardize Medicaid

- In order for Child Support NOT to affect SSI and Medicaid, you need to:

     - have a knowledgable attorney set up a D4a (also known as a: OBRA '93

or

payback) trust for you

     - that attorney will get you a tax id # for this trust

     - your divorce attorney will need to go back to court to have this

child

support COURT ORDERED paid into this trust

Hope this helps.

-Sherri

________________________________

From: swedegrl2005 <swedegrl@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Sun, February 6, 2011 12:25:56 AM

Subject: Re: question for the group

 

HI SHERRI. IF THAT'S THE CASE, CAN bi-weekly child support checks of $250 to

total $500 per month get deposited into the rep payee account and NOT the

payback trust?

And attornies out there...... if the child supporyt gets deposited into the

payback trust, what are the requirements to getting the funds out to actually

use it? What type of accounting is necessary for withdrwling money from the

trust? and who is the accounting necessary for?

Thanks,

Diane S

>

> >

>

> > Hi all, I don't get the full amount od SSI for my son. He is 20

yrs old

>and

>

> >has been getting SSI for over 2 years now. He get $400 and something a

>month.Â

>

> >I was told not to charge him rent because you need to include the amt on your

>

> >taxes and that your home is listed then as rental property. (Which

seams

>odd

>

> >but I didn't want to deal with it) . Can anyone tell me if I'm doing the

>right

>

> >thing?Â

>

> >

>

> > Any info will help.

>

> >

>

> > Thanks, Liz

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ________________________________

>

> > From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@>

>

> > IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40>

>

> > Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 3:22:46 PM

>

> > Subject: Re: question for the group

>

> >

>

> > Â

>

> > ,

>

> >

>

> > Glad to hear your visit went well. Different Social Security offices handle

>

> the

>

> >question of rent differently, and within an office it might vary between

>staff,

>

> >too. Some will do the 'wink and nod' process of guiding you through the

>

> >questions, others are more by the book. I also had the problem of how to

>

> justify

>

> >charging rent or room/board when she had no income yet; so what happened in

>our

>

> >case was she got initially approved at a lower monthly amount, then when her

>

> SSI

>

> >checks started coming, we started deducting $250/month from her checks for

>

> >room/board and then called the SS office again. Can't recall what the process

>

> >was to get the room/board added after the fact, but it was also relatively

>

> >painless to do.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Good luck.

>

> > L.

>

> >

>

> > From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com

>

> > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:38 PM

>

> > ipaddunite@gro ups.com

>

> > Subject: question for the group

>

> >

>

> > When you apply for SSI how can you tell them you're charging rent when your

>

> >child gets a check for $20 every two weeks, sure I'll charge rent when he has

>

> >the $$ to pay rent.

>

> > Anyway, I just got back, it took 25 minutes in person at the Woodridge

>office,

>

> >I had his last IEP packet which had all of the current information and test

>

> >scores done in February along with the paperwork they gave me on Monday to

>fill

>

> >out. It was so " painless " its scary, I was prepared for a long meeting.....

>

> >..but it seemed to go extremely well.

>

> > H.

>

> >

>

> >

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Dear All,

What are your different experiences, if any, in the differences between using Lugol's Solution (Transdermally or Internally), SSKI, Iodoral, Iosol and Nascent Iodine (if any one has gone that route, which I don't really see the point in).

I love to hear about them.

Thanks and Blessings,

Surya

PS I haven't introduced myself to the group. I am a long time certified nutritionist, sports nutrition consultant, exercise trainer and have a masters in holistic nutrition, amongst other things. www.wohlistic.com will show you a little bit about what I do. I just designed it recently so I don't have details about my nutritional services up there and I didn't come to this group to pitch them.

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Christa -- you have lost almost 80 pounds. You are *starving* to death. Period.

Notan's right: it *could* be something else, but. . . . Is *anyone* watching

your blood work? Is anyone actually AWARE of what's going on with you? That it

IS an emergency? Really.

Yes. The feet thing happened to me, too. My doc and I are working on getting

the bloodwork back to SANE. I'm taking big doses of potassium, and B12. Also,

selenium. But pedal neuropathy is VERY common in starvation, and you won't fix

it until the starvation is fixed. And the longer it goes on, the more

*permanent* damage is done. Mine is retreating a little after six months of

treating. But I spect there will always be some. It sort of feels now like I

have a tight sock on the right foot. The left, only like I'm standing on sand

paper.

PLEASE DO SOMETHING, STAT!!!!

XOX

>

> All-

> Lately, I have been experiencing constant numbness in my feet.   They both

feel like they are asleep most of the time and are " tingly " to the touch. 

Sometimes, I wonder if I will be able to walk.   It is quite odd.   Does anyone

have any thoughts about this sympton and whether it could be related to A?  

Like a vitamin deficiency????

> Otherwise, guess it will be something else that I need to figure out.

> Thank you for reading.

> Christa

> Ohio

>

>

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thank you everyone for your remarks.   i went for a physical in march and

blood work was borderline amenic.  saw a neurologist who took xrays, etc and

told me i do not have lupas or diabetes. 

going to call the primary again.   need to do something.   feet are tingling

away today. 

again, my sincere thanks.

christa

>________________________________

> From: puddleriver13 <puddleriver13@...>

>achalasia

>Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 11:23 AM

>Subject: Re: Question for the Group

>

>

>

> 

>

>Christa -- you have lost almost 80 pounds. You are *starving* to death.

Period. Notan's right: it *could* be something else, but. . . . Is *anyone*

watching your blood work? Is anyone actually AWARE of what's going on with you?

That it IS an emergency? Really.

>

>Yes. The feet thing happened to me, too. My doc and I are working on getting

the bloodwork back to SANE. I'm taking big doses of potassium, and B12. Also,

selenium. But pedal neuropathy is VERY common in starvation, and you won't fix

it until the starvation is fixed. And the longer it goes on, the more

*permanent* damage is done. Mine is retreating a little after six months of

treating. But I spect there will always be some. It sort of feels now like I

have a tight sock on the right foot. The left, only like I'm standing on sand

paper.

>

>PLEASE DO SOMETHING, STAT!!!!

>

>XOX

>

>

>>

>> All-

>> Lately, I have been experiencing constant numbness in my feet.   They both

feel like they are asleep most of the time and are " tingly " to the touch. 

Sometimes, I wonder if I will be able to walk.   It is quite odd.   Does

anyone have any thoughts about this sympton and whether it could be related to

A?   Like a vitamin deficiency????

>> Otherwise, guess it will be something else that I need to figure out.

>> Thank you for reading.

>> Christa

>> Ohio

>>

>>

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I have that happen to me and if you are given procardia or something like that

for the spasms it will open the blood vessels and the blood flow will increase

and help with the Raynaud's.

 

Best Regards

Sharon Cline

From: mp <nowtri@...>

Subject: Re: Question for the Group

achalasia

Date: Saturday, May 26, 2012, 1:35 AM

 

do your feet turn white and feel cold??

how about your hands.

i have a feeling its something else

look up :

raynaud's

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