Re: Re: just started lugol's -More information

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No brain fog here... lol

 

I forgot to include the vitamin C. The thyroid caps (4/day) and adrenal caps from Natural Sources (2/day). I also take a female tincture with black cohosh to prevent hot flashes and other symptoms of being 53 and in the process of menopause, lobelia tincture (helps with the horrible coughing I get from the swollen thyroid pressing inward). The tinctures are homemade from using Dr  Schulze instructions. I am hypothyroid with 2 nodules, one of which is " well supplied with blood " according to the dr I saw last year, and a couple of cysts.

 

I try to take 3000mg of C daily. Since I can't swallow it in pill form, I grind it up and add the powder to juice to get it down. I drink only water (try to get at least a half gallon or more daily) and juice (store bought orange and apple) with no high fructose corn syrup (I try to avoid HFCS as much as possible). I also use one tea bag to a quart of water in the morning. This is the only caffiene intake there is. No coffee, no soda pop.. or other sources of caffiene. I also do not add sodium chloride (table salt) to anything, just the Real Salt.

 

After my husband lost his job (lay off) and all he could get was 20 hours a week @ minimum wage, food (diet) is an issue. We definitely need more fresh fruits and vegetables around here. But that's not possible right now... that, I know, IS a problem. I did much better when I did the juicing last year but had to give it up when I ran out of money. I lost weight then (was almost 180) and felt a lot better..

 

I'm now about 160lbs and 5'5 " . So, yes, still overweight... hypo makes it harder to lose weight, too... *sigh*. With the snow melting, I'm trying to get out and walk 2 miles daily (don't always get it done everyday, tho) and hope that helps.

 

We also have no medical care since we have no health insurance for allopathic care. And can't afford a naturopath (which would be my preferred source of care). So I'm on my own, doing what I can to get as many of the supplements as I can.

 

Thing is, the blood pressure was on the low end of normal, and always has been.... till I started the iodine, sea salt... etc. I figured it was the salt causing a temporary high and that it would go down after a few hours, but it doesn't. I tried splitting up the dose of sea salt but that hasn't helped either.

 

Could this be a detox issue and will resolve itself over time as I get rid of more toxins? Since I just started the iodine, etc, a week or so ago.....

 

~Diane~

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Pamela <prov31mom23@...> wrote:

> Salt raises sodium which inturn causes edema/fluid over load which inturn cause hypertension.>

Not quite true.  Sodium, devoid of the minerals with which it is naturally found, can function as you outlined.  Salt, per se, is not the culprit, although any refined salt (such as table salt or bleached sea salts) can be.  When unrefined sea salt is used, all of the vital trace minerals are retained.  Sodium, in the presence of these trace minerals, does not affect blood pressure the same way.

I did a bit of reading about high blood pressure recently because my husband was diagnosed with it.  It turns out that blood pressure is often a result of dehydration.  Are you drinking enough water?   Adding unrefined sea salt to your water can actually help your body stay hydrated, lowering your blood pressure.

I don't think you mentioned Vitamin C as one of the supplements you are taking.  It is considered one of the companion supplements to iodine and is known to lower blood pressure.  Maybe you simply need more vitamin C to normalize things.

Iodine is also known to help blood pressure because it helps eliminate halides that can interfere with the kidneys' ability to filter toxins.  A build up of toxins can also lead to high blood pressure.  I don't know if perhaps you started on too high a dose and your body is now releasing a significant amount of halides - or if that would cause a temporary increase in BP or not...I really don't have the knowledge to say.  I still say start with C

Here is some other information I compiled for my husband:  The following are SIGNIFICANT risk factors:Smoking - Nicotine has an adverse effect on the adrenal glands, causing them to increase blood pressure.Stress

Weight gain - even losing just a few pounds can help lower your blood pressureHypothyroidism triples the risk of developing high blood pressureFructose - those who consumed 74 grams or more per day of fructose (the equivalent of about 2.5 sugary drinks) had a 77 percent greater risk of having blood pressure levels of 160/100 mmHg. (For comparison, a normal blood pressure reading is below 120/80 mmHg.)   Consuming 74 grams or more of fructose daily also increased the risk of a 135/85 blood pressure reading by 26 percent, and 140/90 by 30 percent.  This is significant because the average American now consumes 70 grams of fructose EVERY day

The following are IMPORTANT risk factors:Excessive use of coffeeHigh sodium intakeHormonal abnormalityPoor kidney function, resulting in retention of excess sodium and fluid in the bodyCaffeine including soda

Winter - blood pressure is typically higher in winter months than during the summer, possibly as a result of decreased Vitamin DIt is impossible for a health care provider to make a correct diagnosis of high blood pressure with a single reading.  The test must be repeated throughout the day to be accurate.  Home testing is best because it enables you to monitor your condition periodically.  Measuring at home on a regular schedule may:

•       Help determine whether bp is high only during a medical visit•       Enable you to collaborate with health care provider in controlling high bp•       Reduce the frequency with which you need to visit your health care provider for bp evaluation

It's important to remember that there are several variables that can affect the validity of your blood pressure reading.•       If you're overweight, a size `average' blood pressure cuff can lead to a falsely elevated blood pressure reading. Estimates indicate that eight to ten percent of overweight and obese patients are wrongly diag¬nosed as hypertensive due to ill-fitting blood pressure cuffs. Since two-thirds of Americans are overweight, this is a significant concern. You should make sure your doctor or health care professional is using the right size cuff for your size.

•       Arm position. If your blood pressure is taken while your arm is parallel to your body, your reading can be up to 10 percent higher than it really is. Blood pressure readings should always be taken with your arm at a right angle to your body.

•       White coat hypertension, which is an elevation in blood pressure caused by the stress or fear associated with visits to doctors and other medical personnel, can be a transient but serious concern. Stress reduction in this situation is key.

AVOID the following foods or food additives:MSGFructose - A diet high in fructose, a form of sugar found in sweetened soft drinks and junk food, raises blood pressure in men.  Two recent studies provided the first evidence that fructose helps raise blood pressure. One study further suggested that people who consume junk foods and sweetened soft drinks at night could gain weight faster than those who don't.

Canned vegetablesIbuprofenFoods with preservativesMeat tenderizersSoy sauceAll processed meats, bouillons, corned beef, and dairyAged cheeses, aged meats, anchovies, chocolate (except dark chocolate reduced systolic blood pressure by 2.9 units, and diastolic by 1.9 units when a moderate amount was eaten daily), sour cream, yogurt

WineAll alcohol, caffeine and tobaccoOver the counter cold and allergy remediesDO INCLUDE the following:Eat a high fiber dietEat plenty of fruits and vegetables such as apples, asparagus, bananas, broccoli, cabbage, cantaloupe, eggplant, garlic, grapefruit, green leafy vegetables, melons, peas, prunes, raisins, squash and sweet potatoes

Eat grains like brown rice, buckwheat, millet and oatsTake 2 tablespoons of flaxseed oil daily.Garlic - Garlic has been shown to significantly reduce blood pressure. Eat it as much as possible.

>> just started lugol's>> I started on Lugol's a week or so ago, 12 drops of the 2.2%,  along with

> 200mcg selenium, magnesium sometimes sprayed on, sometimes the capsule. I> have a hard time swallowing the capsule so I don't take it as much. I'm also> taking a half teaspoon sea salt (Real Salt is what I could get locally)

> every day.>> Problem is my blood pressure is going up. Today it was 135/83. Pulse> 60. I've always had low to normal blood pressure, never high. Am I doing> something wrong or missing something? With all the brain fog, I could miss

> just about anything!>> -->> ~Diane~>------------------------------------All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group  IodineOT/

Commonly asked questions:   http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

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Diane -

 

How much salt are you using per day?  Although counter intuitive it may not be enough.

 

The other thing I wonder - have you researched the other things you are taking?  Maybe one of them is the culprit.  I often struggle with what I take and how much and how they interact.  I love the less is more theory but want to make sure I am still getting enough of the things I do need and am not getting even from my costly organic food sources.

 

Jaxi

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:21 AM, rdjca4 <rdjca4@...> wrote:

No brain fog here... lol

 

I forgot to include the vitamin C. The thyroid caps (4/day) and adrenal caps from Natural Sources (2/day). I also take a female tincture with black cohosh to prevent hot flashes and other symptoms of being 53 and in the process of menopause, lobelia tincture (helps with the horrible coughing I get from the swollen thyroid pressing inward). The tinctures are homemade from using Dr  Schulze instructions. I am hypothyroid with 2 nodules, one of which is " well supplied with blood " according to the dr I saw last year, and a couple of cysts.

 

I try to take 3000mg of C daily. Since I can't swallow it in pill form, I grind it up and add the powder to juice to get it down. I drink only water (try to get at least a half gallon or more daily) and juice (store bought orange and apple) with no high fructose corn syrup (I try to avoid HFCS as much as possible). I also use one tea bag to a quart of water in the morning. This is the only caffiene intake there is. No coffee, no soda pop.. or other sources of caffiene. I also do not add sodium chloride (table salt) to anything, just the Real Salt.

 

After my husband lost his job (lay off) and all he could get was 20 hours a week @ minimum wage, food (diet) is an issue. We definitely need more fresh fruits and vegetables around here. But that's not possible right now... that, I know, IS a problem. I did much better when I did the juicing last year but had to give it up when I ran out of money. I lost weight then (was almost 180) and felt a lot better..

 

I'm now about 160lbs and 5'5 " . So, yes, still overweight... hypo makes it harder to lose weight, too... *sigh*. With the snow melting, I'm trying to get out and walk 2 miles daily (don't always get it done everyday, tho) and hope that helps.

 

We also have no medical care since we have no health insurance for allopathic care. And can't afford a naturopath (which would be my preferred source of care). So I'm on my own, doing what I can to get as many of the supplements as I can.

 

Thing is, the blood pressure was on the low end of normal, and always has been.... till I started the iodine, sea salt... etc. I figured it was the salt causing a temporary high and that it would go down after a few hours, but it doesn't. I tried splitting up the dose of sea salt but that hasn't helped either.

 

Could this be a detox issue and will resolve itself over time as I get rid of more toxins? Since I just started the iodine, etc, a week or so ago.....

 

~Diane~

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Pamela <prov31mom23@...> wrote:

> Salt raises sodium which inturn causes edema/fluid over load which inturn cause hypertension.>

Not quite true.  Sodium, devoid of the minerals with which it is naturally found, can function as you outlined.  Salt, per se, is not the culprit, although any refined salt (such as table salt or bleached sea salts) can be.  When unrefined sea salt is used, all of the vital trace minerals are retained.  Sodium, in the presence of these trace minerals, does not affect blood pressure the same way.

I did a bit of reading about high blood pressure recently because my husband was diagnosed with it.  It turns out that blood pressure is often a result of dehydration.  Are you drinking enough water?   Adding unrefined sea salt to your water can actually help your body stay hydrated, lowering your blood pressure.

I don't think you mentioned Vitamin C as one of the supplements you are taking.  It is considered one of the companion supplements to iodine and is known to lower blood pressure.  Maybe you simply need more vitamin C to normalize things.

Iodine is also known to help blood pressure because it helps eliminate halides that can interfere with the kidneys' ability to filter toxins.  A build up of toxins can also lead to high blood pressure.  I don't know if perhaps you started on too high a dose and your body is now releasing a significant amount of halides - or if that would cause a temporary increase in BP or not...I really don't have the knowledge to say.  I still say start with C

Here is some other information I compiled for my husband:  The following are SIGNIFICANT risk factors:Smoking - Nicotine has an adverse effect on the adrenal glands, causing them to increase blood pressure.Stress

Weight gain - even losing just a few pounds can help lower your blood pressureHypothyroidism triples the risk of developing high blood pressureFructose - those who consumed 74 grams or more per day of fructose (the equivalent of about 2.5 sugary drinks) had a 77 percent greater risk of having blood pressure levels of 160/100 mmHg. (For comparison, a normal blood pressure reading is below 120/80 mmHg.)   Consuming 74 grams or more of fructose daily also increased the risk of a 135/85 blood pressure reading by 26 percent, and 140/90 by 30 percent.  This is significant because the average American now consumes 70 grams of fructose EVERY day

The following are IMPORTANT risk factors:Excessive use of coffeeHigh sodium intakeHormonal abnormalityPoor kidney function, resulting in retention of excess sodium and fluid in the bodyCaffeine including soda

Winter - blood pressure is typically higher in winter months than during the summer, possibly as a result of decreased Vitamin DIt is impossible for a health care provider to make a correct diagnosis of high blood pressure with a single reading.  The test must be repeated throughout the day to be accurate.  Home testing is best because it enables you to monitor your condition periodically.  Measuring at home on a regular schedule may:

•       Help determine whether bp is high only during a medical visit•       Enable you to collaborate with health care provider in controlling high bp•       Reduce the frequency with which you need to visit your health care provider for bp evaluation

It's important to remember that there are several variables that can affect the validity of your blood pressure reading.•       If you're overweight, a size `average' blood pressure cuff can lead to a falsely elevated blood pressure reading. Estimates indicate that eight to ten percent of overweight and obese patients are wrongly diag¬nosed as hypertensive due to ill-fitting blood pressure cuffs. Since two-thirds of Americans are overweight, this is a significant concern. You should make sure your doctor or health care professional is using the right size cuff for your size.

•       Arm position. If your blood pressure is taken while your arm is parallel to your body, your reading can be up to 10 percent higher than it really is. Blood pressure readings should always be taken with your arm at a right angle to your body.

•       White coat hypertension, which is an elevation in blood pressure caused by the stress or fear associated with visits to doctors and other medical personnel, can be a transient but serious concern. Stress reduction in this situation is key.

AVOID the following foods or food additives:MSGFructose - A diet high in fructose, a form of sugar found in sweetened soft drinks and junk food, raises blood pressure in men.  Two recent studies provided the first evidence that fructose helps raise blood pressure. One study further suggested that people who consume junk foods and sweetened soft drinks at night could gain weight faster than those who don't.

Canned vegetablesIbuprofenFoods with preservativesMeat tenderizersSoy sauceAll processed meats, bouillons, corned beef, and dairyAged cheeses, aged meats, anchovies, chocolate (except dark chocolate reduced systolic blood pressure by 2.9 units, and diastolic by 1.9 units when a moderate amount was eaten daily), sour cream, yogurt

WineAll alcohol, caffeine and tobaccoOver the counter cold and allergy remediesDO INCLUDE the following:Eat a high fiber dietEat plenty of fruits and vegetables such as apples, asparagus, bananas, broccoli, cabbage, cantaloupe, eggplant, garlic, grapefruit, green leafy vegetables, melons, peas, prunes, raisins, squash and sweet potatoes

Eat grains like brown rice, buckwheat, millet and oatsTake 2 tablespoons of flaxseed oil daily.Garlic - Garlic has been shown to significantly reduce blood pressure. Eat it as much as possible.

>> just started lugol's

>> I started on Lugol's a week or so ago, 12 drops of the 2.2%,  along with> 200mcg selenium, magnesium sometimes sprayed on, sometimes the capsule. I> have a hard time swallowing the capsule so I don't take it as much. I'm also

> taking a half teaspoon sea salt (Real Salt is what I could get locally)> every day.>> Problem is my blood pressure is going up. Today it was 135/83. Pulse> 60. I've always had low to normal blood pressure, never high. Am I doing

> something wrong or missing something? With all the brain fog, I could miss> just about anything!>> -->> ~Diane~>------------------------------------

All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group  IodineOT/Commonly asked questions:   http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

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I'm taking a half teaspoon of Real Salt in the morning, and then adding it to some of what I eat during the course of the day. Should I be adding more? I gotta admit that'd be a bit scary...

 

I've taken these herbal tinctures for several months with no side affects.. I've read up on each of them in the ingredients and found no real problems like this. Tho I guess I couldn't completely rule anything out, I haven't suspected them either.

 

~Diane~

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:43 AM, jaxi <jaxi.schulz@...> wrote:

Diane -

 

How much salt are you using per day?  Although counter intuitive it may not be enough.

 

The other thing I wonder - have you researched the other things you are taking?  Maybe one of them is the culprit.  I often struggle with what I take and how much and how they interact.  I love the less is more theory but want to make sure I am still getting enough of the things I do need and am not getting even from my costly organic food sources.

 

Jaxi

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:21 AM, rdjca4 <rdjca4@...> wrote:

No brain fog here... lol

 

I forgot to include the vitamin C. The thyroid caps (4/day) and adrenal caps from Natural Sources (2/day). I also take a female tincture with black cohosh to prevent hot flashes and other symptoms of being 53 and in the process of menopause, lobelia tincture (helps with the horrible coughing I get from the swollen thyroid pressing inward). The tinctures are homemade from using Dr  Schulze instructions. I am hypothyroid with 2 nodules, one of which is " well supplied with blood " according to the dr I saw last year, and a couple of cysts.

 

I try to take 3000mg of C daily. Since I can't swallow it in pill form, I grind it up and add the powder to juice to get it down. I drink only water (try to get at least a half gallon or more daily) and juice (store bought orange and apple) with no high fructose corn syrup (I try to avoid HFCS as much as possible). I also use one tea bag to a quart of water in the morning. This is the only caffiene intake there is. No coffee, no soda pop.. or other sources of caffiene. I also do not add sodium chloride (table salt) to anything, just the Real Salt.

 

After my husband lost his job (lay off) and all he could get was 20 hours a week @ minimum wage, food (diet) is an issue. We definitely need more fresh fruits and vegetables around here. But that's not possible right now... that, I know, IS a problem. I did much better when I did the juicing last year but had to give it up when I ran out of money. I lost weight then (was almost 180) and felt a lot better..

 

I'm now about 160lbs and 5'5 " . So, yes, still overweight... hypo makes it harder to lose weight, too... *sigh*. With the snow melting, I'm trying to get out and walk 2 miles daily (don't always get it done everyday, tho) and hope that helps.

 

We also have no medical care since we have no health insurance for allopathic care. And can't afford a naturopath (which would be my preferred source of care). So I'm on my own, doing what I can to get as many of the supplements as I can.

 

Thing is, the blood pressure was on the low end of normal, and always has been.... till I started the iodine, sea salt... etc. I figured it was the salt causing a temporary high and that it would go down after a few hours, but it doesn't. I tried splitting up the dose of sea salt but that hasn't helped either.

 

Could this be a detox issue and will resolve itself over time as I get rid of more toxins? Since I just started the iodine, etc, a week or so ago.....

 

~Diane~

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Pamela <prov31mom23@...> wrote:

> Salt raises sodium which inturn causes edema/fluid over load which inturn cause hypertension.>

Not quite true.  Sodium, devoid of the minerals with which it is naturally found, can function as you outlined.  Salt, per se, is not the culprit, although any refined salt (such as table salt or bleached sea salts) can be.  When unrefined sea salt is used, all of the vital trace minerals are retained.  Sodium, in the presence of these trace minerals, does not affect blood pressure the same way.

I did a bit of reading about high blood pressure recently because my husband was diagnosed with it.  It turns out that blood pressure is often a result of dehydration.  Are you drinking enough water?   Adding unrefined sea salt to your water can actually help your body stay hydrated, lowering your blood pressure.

I don't think you mentioned Vitamin C as one of the supplements you are taking.  It is considered one of the companion supplements to iodine and is known to lower blood pressure.  Maybe you simply need more vitamin C to normalize things.

Iodine is also known to help blood pressure because it helps eliminate halides that can interfere with the kidneys' ability to filter toxins.  A build up of toxins can also lead to high blood pressure.  I don't know if perhaps you started on too high a dose and your body is now releasing a significant amount of halides - or if that would cause a temporary increase in BP or not...I really don't have the knowledge to say.  I still say start with C

Here is some other information I compiled for my husband:  The following are SIGNIFICANT risk factors:Smoking - Nicotine has an adverse effect on the adrenal glands, causing them to increase blood pressure.Stress

Weight gain - even losing just a few pounds can help lower your blood pressureHypothyroidism triples the risk of developing high blood pressureFructose - those who consumed 74 grams or more per day of fructose (the equivalent of about 2.5 sugary drinks) had a 77 percent greater risk of having blood pressure levels of 160/100 mmHg. (For comparison, a normal blood pressure reading is below 120/80 mmHg.)   Consuming 74 grams or more of fructose daily also increased the risk of a 135/85 blood pressure reading by 26 percent, and 140/90 by 30 percent.  This is significant because the average American now consumes 70 grams of fructose EVERY day

The following are IMPORTANT risk factors:Excessive use of coffeeHigh sodium intakeHormonal abnormalityPoor kidney function, resulting in retention of excess sodium and fluid in the bodyCaffeine including soda

Winter - blood pressure is typically higher in winter months than during the summer, possibly as a result of decreased Vitamin DIt is impossible for a health care provider to make a correct diagnosis of high blood pressure with a single reading.  The test must be repeated throughout the day to be accurate.  Home testing is best because it enables you to monitor your condition periodically.  Measuring at home on a regular schedule may:

•       Help determine whether bp is high only during a medical visit•       Enable you to collaborate with health care provider in controlling high bp•       Reduce the frequency with which you need to visit your health care provider for bp evaluation

It's important to remember that there are several variables that can affect the validity of your blood pressure reading.•       If you're overweight, a size `average' blood pressure cuff can lead to a falsely elevated blood pressure reading. Estimates indicate that eight to ten percent of overweight and obese patients are wrongly diag¬nosed as hypertensive due to ill-fitting blood pressure cuffs. Since two-thirds of Americans are overweight, this is a significant concern. You should make sure your doctor or health care professional is using the right size cuff for your size.

•       Arm position. If your blood pressure is taken while your arm is parallel to your body, your reading can be up to 10 percent higher than it really is. Blood pressure readings should always be taken with your arm at a right angle to your body.

•       White coat hypertension, which is an elevation in blood pressure caused by the stress or fear associated with visits to doctors and other medical personnel, can be a transient but serious concern. Stress reduction in this situation is key.

AVOID the following foods or food additives:MSGFructose - A diet high in fructose, a form of sugar found in sweetened soft drinks and junk food, raises blood pressure in men.  Two recent studies provided the first evidence that fructose helps raise blood pressure. One study further suggested that people who consume junk foods and sweetened soft drinks at night could gain weight faster than those who don't.

Canned vegetablesIbuprofenFoods with preservativesMeat tenderizersSoy sauceAll processed meats, bouillons, corned beef, and dairyAged cheeses, aged meats, anchovies, chocolate (except dark chocolate reduced systolic blood pressure by 2.9 units, and diastolic by 1.9 units when a moderate amount was eaten daily), sour cream, yogurt

WineAll alcohol, caffeine and tobaccoOver the counter cold and allergy remediesDO INCLUDE the following:Eat a high fiber dietEat plenty of fruits and vegetables such as apples, asparagus, bananas, broccoli, cabbage, cantaloupe, eggplant, garlic, grapefruit, green leafy vegetables, melons, peas, prunes, raisins, squash and sweet potatoes

Eat grains like brown rice, buckwheat, millet and oatsTake 2 tablespoons of flaxseed oil daily.Garlic - Garlic has been shown to significantly reduce blood pressure. Eat it as much as possible.

>> just started lugol's

>> I started on Lugol's a week or so ago, 12 drops of the 2.2%,  along with> 200mcg selenium, magnesium sometimes sprayed on, sometimes the capsule. I> have a hard time swallowing the capsule so I don't take it as much. I'm also

> taking a half teaspoon sea salt (Real Salt is what I could get locally)> every day.>> Problem is my blood pressure is going up. Today it was 135/83. Pulse> 60. I've always had low to normal blood pressure, never high. Am I doing

> something wrong or missing something? With all the brain fog, I could miss> just about anything!>> -->> ~Diane~>------------------------------------

All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group  IodineOT/Commonly asked questions:   http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e