Re: regarding changing to T3- anyone experienced in this

April 4, 2011

why did you decide to only take 25mg iodine? I believe the

therapeutic dose is 50mg. a few thyroid lists I am on don't believe

in the T3 only protocol. you might do better on enough iodine and

dessicated thyroid med.

Gracia

n 4/3/2011 5:59 PM, Teel wrote:

Hi,

I have been on iodine 25 mg and companions since Jan. 11,

and also added in adrenal vitamin supplements that are

recommended in Dr. 's book. I had thyroid tests

before and had been on T4 without really feeling that

well.

In the last 2 weeks, I was changed to T3 only as I have

thyroid enzyme anti-bodies, TPO, well above borderline. I

am only on 15 mcg and have stopped taking Synthroid the

last 2 weeks.

The last couple of days i have had bad heartburn which is

actually painful just under my sternum in mid line, feel

very bloated, and it is all worst at evening time. Last

night and this morning I resorted to drinking 1 tsp.

Braggs cider vinegar in a cup of water and that seemed to

help the heart burn but still feel bloated.

Would these be more from not enough thyroid meds, or could

it have to do with detoxing?? If anyone is on T3, how

much is an "average" dose?? I will see the integrative

doctor on Tuesday but want to be prepared....

April 4, 2011

I was wondering about that. I can't take t3, as it gives me anxiety, but I am on

Westhroid. I have RT3 though.

Will iodine help reduce the RT3?

I am up to about 25mgs with the drops and got sick with the flu. Had to take a

few days off due to stomach, but now I am back on and plan to work up to 50 now.

Thanks, Terry

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I have been on iodine 25 mg and companions since Jan. 11, and also

> > added in adrenal vitamin supplements that are recommended in Dr.

> > 's book. I had thyroid tests before and had been on T4 without

> > really feeling that well.

> >

> > In the last 2 weeks, I was changed to T3 only as I have thyroid enzyme

> > anti-bodies, TPO, well above borderline. I am only on 15 mcg and have

> > stopped taking Synthroid the last 2 weeks.

> >

> > The last couple of days i have had bad heartburn which is actually

> > painful just under my sternum in mid line, feel very bloated, and it

> > is all worst at evening time. Last night and this morning I resorted

> > to drinking 1 tsp. Braggs cider vinegar in a cup of water and that

> > seemed to help the heart burn but still feel bloated.

> >

> > Would these be more from not enough thyroid meds, or could it have to

> > do with detoxing?? If anyone is on T3, how much is an " average "

> > dose?? I will see the integrative doctor on Tuesday but want to be

> > prepared....

> >

>

April 4, 2011

Which thyroid lists are you on??? i was put on that as I have TPO

antibodies and he wanted to see if it helped me.

I have detox at 25 so am just sitting on that for a while...

On 4/4/2011 8:26 AM, Gracia wrote:

why did you decide to only take 25mg iodine? I believe

the therapeutic dose is 50mg. a few thyroid lists I am on

don't believe in the T3 only protocol. you might do

better on enough iodine and dessicated thyroid med.

Gracia

n 4/3/2011 5:59 PM, Teel wrote:

Hi,

I have been on iodine 25 mg and companions since Jan.

11, and also added in adrenal vitamin supplements that

are recommended in Dr. 's book. I had thyroid

tests before and had been on T4 without really feeling

that well.

In the last 2 weeks, I was changed to T3 only as I

have thyroid enzyme anti-bodies, TPO, well above

borderline. I am only on 15 mcg and have stopped

taking Synthroid the last 2 weeks.

The last couple of days i have had bad heartburn which

is actually painful just under my sternum in mid line,

feel very bloated, and it is all worst at evening

time. Last night and this morning I resorted to

drinking 1 tsp. Braggs cider vinegar in a cup of water

and that seemed to help the heart burn but still feel

bloated.

Would these be more from not enough thyroid meds, or

could it have to do with detoxing?? If anyone is on

T3, how much is an "average" dose?? I will see the

integrative doctor on Tuesday but want to be

prepared....

April 5, 2011

hi,

I have started t3 in January but have my doubts if it really is the only way to

fix rt3. I do not feel well, either because of adrenals not stabilized enough on

HC or my iron too low. anyway this is not an easy way because I have

difficulties interpreting my body. I have all kinds of symptoms and take all

kinds of supplements but don't really know what to change to feel better.

I also started iodine about 3weeks ago but am afraid to build up too fast, now

I'm at 18mg of Iodoral.

I would consider Erfa or alike if I knew it works. So far I have followed mostly

the advise from NTHAdrenals list and they are very strict that if you have

reverse problems, t3 is the only way to go. but probably everybody does not even

test reverse t3 and maybe does not know about t3 therapy and works with

desiccated plus iodine etc.

Susa in Finland

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I have been on iodine 25 mg and companions since Jan. 11, and also

> > > added in adrenal vitamin supplements that are recommended in Dr.

> > > 's book. I had thyroid tests before and had been on T4 without

> > > really feeling that well.

> > >

> > > In the last 2 weeks, I was changed to T3 only as I have thyroid enzyme

> > > anti-bodies, TPO, well above borderline. I am only on 15 mcg and have

> > > stopped taking Synthroid the last 2 weeks.

> > >

> > > The last couple of days i have had bad heartburn which is actually

> > > painful just under my sternum in mid line, feel very bloated, and it

> > > is all worst at evening time. Last night and this morning I resorted

> > > to drinking 1 tsp. Braggs cider vinegar in a cup of water and that

> > > seemed to help the heart burn but still feel bloated.

> > >

> > > Would these be more from not enough thyroid meds, or could it have to

> > > do with detoxing?? If anyone is on T3, how much is an " average "

> > > dose?? I will see the integrative doctor on Tuesday but want to be

> > > prepared....

> > >

> >

>

April 5, 2011

Taking T3 for RT3 issues is a band-aid fix. It has not addressed the issue. Key issues in RT3 are:

1. Liver Toxicity

2. Adrenal Fatigue

3. Poor Diet

Clean up this mess and your levels will normalize. I lowered my RT3 due to liver toxicity in 6 weeks by 100 pts. I used www.purezenhealth.com TLC product - 1 scoop 2x a day.

Buist, ND

Re: regarding changing to T3- anyone experienced in this

hi,I have started t3 in January but have my doubts if it really is the only way to fix rt3. I do not feel well, either because of adrenals not stabilized enough on HC or my iron too low. anyway this is not an easy way because I have difficulties interpreting my body. I have all kinds of symptoms and take all kinds of supplements but don't really know what to change to feel better.I also started iodine about 3weeks ago but am afraid to build up too fast, now I'm at 18mg of Iodoral.I would consider Erfa or alike if I knew it works. So far I have followed mostly the advise from NTHAdrenals list and they are very strict that if you have reverse problems, t3 is the only way to go. but probably everybody does not even test reverse t3 and maybe does not know about t3 therapy and works with desiccated plus iodine etc. Susa in Finland> > >> > > Hi,> > >> > > I have been on iodine 25 mg and companions since Jan. 11, and also > > > added in adrenal vitamin supplements that are recommended in Dr. > > > 's book. I had thyroid tests before and had been on T4 without > > > really feeling that well.> > >> > > In the last 2 weeks, I was changed to T3 only as I have thyroid enzyme > > > anti-bodies, TPO, well above borderline. I am only on 15 mcg and have > > > stopped taking Synthroid the last 2 weeks.> > >> > > The last couple of days i have had bad heartburn which is actually > > > painful just under my sternum in mid line, feel very bloated, and it > > > is all worst at evening time. Last night and this morning I resorted > > > to drinking 1 tsp. Braggs cider vinegar in a cup of water and that > > > seemed to help the heart burn but still feel bloated.> > >> > > Would these be more from not enough thyroid meds, or could it have to > > > do with detoxing?? If anyone is on T3, how much is an "average" > > > dose?? I will see the integrative doctor on Tuesday but want to be > > > prepared....> > >> > > > > >> > >> >>

April 5, 2011

well basically I am thyroidless and iodine lists.

have you tried 50mg? I felt very poorly on less than 50mg

Iodoral. I guess you have to experiment to see which dose works

best for you.

gracia

On 4/4/2011 3:31 PM, Teel wrote:

Which thyroid lists are you on??? i was put on that as I

have TPO antibodies and he wanted to see if it helped

me.

I have detox at 25 so am just sitting on that for a

while...

On 4/4/2011 8:26 AM, Gracia wrote:

why did you decide to only take 25mg iodine? I

believe the therapeutic dose is 50mg. a few thyroid

lists I am on don't believe in the T3 only

protocol. you might do better on enough iodine and

dessicated thyroid med.

Gracia

n 4/3/2011 5:59 PM, Teel wrote:

Hi,

I have been on iodine 25 mg and companions since

Jan. 11, and also added in adrenal vitamin

supplements that are recommended in Dr. 's

book. I had thyroid tests before and had been on

T4 without really feeling that well.

In the last 2 weeks, I was changed to T3 only as I

have thyroid enzyme anti-bodies, TPO, well above

borderline. I am only on 15 mcg and have stopped

taking Synthroid the last 2 weeks.

The last couple of days i have had bad heartburn

which is actually painful just under my sternum in

mid line, feel very bloated, and it is all worst

at evening time. Last night and this morning I

resorted to drinking 1 tsp. Braggs cider vinegar

in a cup of water and that seemed to help the

heart burn but still feel bloated.

Would these be more from not enough thyroid meds,

or could it have to do with detoxing?? If anyone

is on T3, how much is an "average" dose?? I will

see the integrative doctor on Tuesday but want to

be prepared....

April 5, 2011

Iron 73 Range 37-145

2900/186 = 15.59

These are my most recent labs.

My iron has come up some, but when I first came to this group, folks stated that

I should not take iron, so I stopped.

I still have RT3, but it was at a ratio of 14 and now it is better at 15.59

I looked up your TLC product and it might be similar to my Energy Infusion from

Endfatigue.com

I need to detox my liver and I purchased some Milk Thistle drops, but have not

tried it yet.

I try not to start too many things at once and I was raising my iodine and

today up to 30mgs.

So you don't think the Low iron is the cause for the RT3?

Is my iron still low enough though to cause it?

I was on 30 mgs of HC and have now reduced to 15mgs. I am ok on that, but due

to low thyroid, I am still not so well yet.

I tried T3 and it gave me horrible anxiety.

My diet is high protein, no sugar, little fruit, veggies, meat and dairy

yogurt, cheese, eggs. Lugummes also and rice. No wheat.

I would love to know anything else I can do, as I am trying to get over ten

years of illness. My kids need their mom.

I am getting all my hormones tested too, as I got a slip from the doctor, but

for some reason he won't put pregnalone on it.

He is a family doctor who is trying to help me, but mostly I am figuring this

out myself.

Currently on 15mgs HC, 60mgs Westhroid, 40 mgs Celexa and all the helps that go

with the iodine, plus vite D3 and I take four magnesium a day if I can, which

has raised bowel movements to two times a day.

Vite. C, B Complex. Energy Infusion, licorice root extract.

I guess now is time to begin the milk thistle.....

THanks for your help, Terry

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > I have been on iodine 25 mg and companions since Jan. 11, and also

> > > > added in adrenal vitamin supplements that are recommended in Dr.

> > > > 's book. I had thyroid tests before and had been on T4 without

> > > > really feeling that well.

> > > >

> > > > In the last 2 weeks, I was changed to T3 only as I have thyroid enzyme

> > > > anti-bodies, TPO, well above borderline. I am only on 15 mcg and have

> > > > stopped taking Synthroid the last 2 weeks.

> > > >

> > > > The last couple of days i have had bad heartburn which is actually

> > > > painful just under my sternum in mid line, feel very bloated, and it

> > > > is all worst at evening time. Last night and this morning I resorted

> > > > to drinking 1 tsp. Braggs cider vinegar in a cup of water and that

> > > > seemed to help the heart burn but still feel bloated.

> > > >

> > > > Would these be more from not enough thyroid meds, or could it have to

> > > > do with detoxing?? If anyone is on T3, how much is an " average "

> > > > dose?? I will see the integrative doctor on Tuesday but want to be

> > > > prepared....

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 5, 2011

Terry,you may want to give up the dairy too. Just think about the hormones that the dairy cows are shot up with and think how that may have an impact on what is doing to our bodies. Organic meats and dairy are the way to go if you don't have any allergens with these foods. Also a lot of foods are becoming genetically modified which can't be a good thing either.Just a suggestion. from IllinoisFrom: Love Petz

<agapecreations77@...>iodine Sent: Tue, April 5, 2011 11:07:37 AMSubject: Re: regarding changing to T3- anyone experienced in this

Iron 73 Range 37-145

2900/186 = 15.59

These are my most recent labs.

My iron has come up some, but when I first came to this group, folks stated that I should not take iron, so I stopped.

I still have RT3, but it was at a ratio of 14 and now it is better at 15.59

I looked up your TLC product and it might be similar to my Energy Infusion from Endfatigue.com

I need to detox my liver and I purchased some Milk Thistle drops, but have not tried it yet.

I try not to start too many things at once and I was raising my iodine and today up to 30mgs.

So you don't think the Low iron is the cause for the RT3?

Is my iron still low enough though to cause it?

I was on 30 mgs of HC and have now reduced to 15mgs. I am ok on that, but due to low thyroid, I am still not so well yet.

I tried T3 and it gave me horrible anxiety.

My diet is high protein, no sugar, little fruit, veggies, meat and dairy yogurt, cheese, eggs. Lugummes also and rice. No wheat.

I would love to know anything else I can do, as I am trying to get over ten years of illness. My kids need their mom.

I am getting all my hormones tested too, as I got a slip from the doctor, but for some reason he won't put pregnalone on it.

He is a family doctor who is trying to help me, but mostly I am figuring this out myself.

Currently on 15mgs HC, 60mgs Westhroid, 40 mgs Celexa and all the helps that go with the iodine, plus vite D3 and I take four magnesium a day if I can, which has raised bowel movements to two times a day.

Vite. C, B Complex. Energy Infusion, licorice root extract.

I guess now is time to begin the milk thistle.....

THanks for your help, Terry

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > I have been on iodine 25 mg and companions since Jan. 11, and also

> > > > added in adrenal vitamin supplements that are recommended in Dr.

> > > > 's book. I had thyroid tests before and had been on T4 without

> > > > really feeling that well.

> > > >

> > > > In the last 2 weeks, I was changed to T3 only as I have thyroid enzyme

> > > > anti-bodies, TPO, well above borderline. I am only on 15 mcg and have

> > > > stopped taking Synthroid the last 2 weeks.

> > > >

> > > > The last couple of days i have had bad heartburn which is actually

> > > > painful just under my sternum in mid line, feel very bloated, and it

> > > > is all worst at evening time. Last night and this morning I resorted

> > > > to drinking 1 tsp. Braggs cider vinegar in a cup of water and that

> > > > seemed to help the heart burn but still feel bloated.

> > > >

> > > > Would these be more from not enough thyroid meds, or could it have to

> > > > do with detoxing?? If anyone is on T3, how much is an "average"

> > > > dose?? I will see the integrative doctor on Tuesday but want to be

> > > > prepared....

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 5, 2011

, I respect your view.

Numbers 1 and 2 apply to me.

is TLC a Metagenics product (I have access to their Ultra Clear line) or a

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