Guest guest Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 I have read the book When Healing Becomes a Crime which is the story of Hoxsey. I had to read it for my Cancer & Politics class. they didn't discuss what was in his salves and tinctures although I do have his book (that he wrote) that is very hard to get called "You Don't Have to Die". Maybe the info is there. Can you give me a link to the article or share it with me so I can read it. My first thought from what you posted is that you only listed potassium iodide. Lugols / Iodoral contain potassium iodide and iodine. Dr Brownstein mentions that he never had the results like he has now that he gets with the combo even when dosing higher and higher amounts. If you have something that I can look at I will share it with Dr. B and see what he thinks as well. Buist, ND dosing for cancer I just thought I'd share an eye-opening little article I stumbled upon regarding the late Hoxsey's cancer cures. , maybe you could weigh in on this; would be most helpfulHoxsey started numerous alternative cancer clinics in the 40's--50'--which had proven cancer-remissions from tens of thousands of patients(like, 50,000!) but he was eventually excoriated by the AMA and other medical establishments, so much so that the only Hoxsey clinic left is in Tijuana.Anyway, his main "cure" for cancer, the secret to his success, was a tincture(also tablets)that contained potassium iodide!(along with lesser amounts of red clover, licorice, prickly ash, etc)Now get this!! Each tablet contained 75MGS of potassium iodide and he dosed cancer patients 2 TABLETS, UP TO FOUR TIMES PER DAY! I am not a math major, but I can see very quickly that this is a LOT of mgs and it means that I might need to rethink the dosing in order to really beat the cancer.I cannot imagine 600mgs of Iodoral a day, but apparently it worked. The whole thing is disconcerting for me, actually, but indeed it is food for thought for one with a very cancerous gland still inside. On scans, after 6 mos on an average of 200mgs iodoral, nothing has changed and I am experiencing persistent pain in compartments of the neck. Gosh, maybe I need to get up to 500mgs.Any suggestions?Again, if you have more to offer on this , it would be most helpful.Oh, also, Hoxsey listed side effects that are right in line with those on the breast cancer choices site, and suggested pulse-dosing(though not calling it that)and recommended working one's way up to dose should detox get too much. He also said that diet had to be close to vegetarian, and very pure, in order for the cure to work. Pretty amazing that this was in the fifties.Thank you,Marcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Ah, yes Kathleen, you had Hurthle Cell cancer treated with Gerson. And so you were doing Hoxsey at the same time! How much did you dose with Hoxsey's formula? Do you feel that the iodine/Hoxsey protocol is rendered significantly less effective without Gerson diet? I just can't do it. Also interesting that you didn't have to supplement with that tonic after awhile. How long ago did you discover iodine protocol? Marcy > > > > I have read the book When Healing Becomes a Crime which is the story of Hoxsey. I had to read it for my Cancer & Politics class. they didn't discuss what was in his salves and tinctures although I do have his book (that he wrote) that is very hard to get called " You Don't Have to Die " . Maybe the info is there. Can you give me a link to the article or share it with me so I can read it. My first thought from what you posted is that you only listed potassium iodide. Lugols / Iodoral contain potassium iodide and iodine. Dr Brownstein mentions that he never had the results like he has now that he gets with the combo even when dosing higher and higher amounts. If you have something that I can look at I will share it with Dr. B and see what he thinks as well. > > > > Buist, ND > > > > > > > > dosing for cancer > > > > > > > > I just thought I'd share an eye-opening little article I stumbled upon regarding the late Hoxsey's cancer cures. , maybe you could weigh in on this; would be most helpful > > > > Hoxsey started numerous alternative cancer clinics in the 40's--50'--which had proven cancer-remissions from tens of thousands of patients(like, 50,000!) but he was eventually excoriated by the AMA and other medical establishments, so much so that the only Hoxsey clinic left is in Tijuana. > > > > Anyway, his main " cure " for cancer, the secret to his success, was a tincture(also tablets)that contained potassium iodide!(along with lesser amounts of red clover, licorice, prickly ash, etc) > > > > Now get this!! Each tablet contained 75MGS of potassium iodide and he dosed cancer patients 2 TABLETS, UP TO FOUR TIMES PER DAY! I am not a math major, but I can see very quickly that this is a LOT of mgs and it means that I might need to rethink the dosing in order to really beat the cancer. > > I cannot imagine 600mgs of Iodoral a day, but apparently it worked. The whole thing is disconcerting for me, actually, but indeed it is food for thought for one with a very cancerous gland still inside. On scans, after 6 mos on an average of 200mgs iodoral, nothing has changed and I am experiencing persistent pain in compartments of the neck. Gosh, maybe I need to get up to 500mgs.Any suggestions? > > > > Again, if you have more to offer on this , it would be most helpful. > > > > Oh, also, Hoxsey listed side effects that are right in line with those on the breast cancer choices site, and suggested pulse-dosing(though not calling it that)and recommended working one's way up to dose should detox get too much. He also said that diet had to be close to vegetarian, and very pure, in order for the cure to work. Pretty amazing that this was in the fifties. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Marcy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Hi Marcy, While doing the Gerson Therapy, I did many other things . As well as taking the Hoxsey tonic, I also took B17 (Laetrile), Lots of pancreatic enzymes ( more in line with the Kelley Therapy now practiced by Dr. in New York), H202, and many other supplements. Those were the years before the internet and I amassed a huge alternative cancer therapy library, as well as attending many lectures by alternative doctors.( I was fortunate once to see Charlotte Gerson and Mildred ( Harrry Hoxseys dedicated nurse) speak together at a Cancer Control Society Convention) So if I thought it was good for healing cancer, I did it! I took the recommended dosage of the tonic ( can't remember how much that is, this was over 25 years ago). The clinic that in Tijuana that offered the Hoxsey Tonic recommended a diet similar to Gerson, so it was easy for me add the tonic to what I was doing. Lugol's is also a part of the Gerson Therapy, and I have always included it in my diet. About two years ago I learned about the Iodine Protocol and it has resonated with me totally because of my past experience. Hope you are doing well! Kathleen dosing for cancer> > > > > > > > I just thought I'd share an eye-opening little article I stumbled upon regarding the late Hoxsey's cancer cures. , maybe you could weigh in on this; would be most helpful> > > > Hoxsey started numerous alternative cancer clinics in the 40's--50'--which had proven cancer-remissions from tens of thousands of patients(like, 50,000!) but he was eventually excoriated by the AMA and other medical establishments, so much so that the only Hoxsey clinic left is in Tijuana.> > > > Anyway, his main "cure" for cancer, the secret to his success, was a tincture(also tablets)that contained potassium iodide!(along with lesser amounts of red clover, licorice, prickly ash, etc)> > > > Now get this!! Each tablet contained 75MGS of potassium iodide and he dosed cancer patients 2 TABLETS, UP TO FOUR TIMES PER DAY! I am not a math major, but I can see very quickly that this is a LOT of mgs and it means that I might need to rethink the dosing in order to really beat the cancer.> > I cannot imagine 600mgs of Iodoral a day, but apparently it worked. The whole thing is disconcerting for me, actually, but indeed it is food for thought for one with a very cancerous gland still inside. On scans, after 6 mos on an average of 200mgs iodoral, nothing has changed and I am experiencing persistent pain in compartments of the neck. Gosh, maybe I need to get up to 500mgs.Any suggestions?> > > > Again, if you have more to offer on this , it would be most helpful.> > > > Oh, also, Hoxsey listed side effects that are right in line with those on the breast cancer choices site, and suggested pulse-dosing(though not calling it that)and recommended working one's way up to dose should detox get too much. He also said that diet had to be close to vegetarian, and very pure, in order for the cure to work. Pretty amazing that this was in the fifties.> > > > Thank you,> > > > Marcy> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2011 Report Share Posted April 10, 2011 Thanks! Very helpful reply. I am sure the complementary therapies boosted the iodine's effectiveness. It is hard to know when to stop with supplements over and above iodine protocol, as it is difficult to figure out which ones are the most effective, and we are too low on cash to experiment. I, too, take all kinds of other things, but am perpetually on the hunt for better choices. Do you still recommend enzymes and B-17(I was looking into buying some awhile ago), and did you try the haberno pepper tincture? Also, might you recommend a Rife machine? or IV vitaminC? Or does a liver flush trump them all? (Can you tell I am starting to get antsy seeing no results:) If you have any more to offer, perhaps you could email me offline, as it has dawned on me that this is OT --unless,of course, these other supplements really created a synergy with iodine that was needed to beat the thyca. Seems everyone on the board is doing more than just iodine and companion nutrients. Thanks again Marcy > > > > > > I have read the book When Healing Becomes a Crime which is the story of Hoxsey. I had to read it for my Cancer & Politics class. they didn't discuss what was in his salves and tinctures although I do have his book (that he wrote) that is very hard to get called " You Don't Have to Die " . Maybe the info is there. Can you give me a link to the article or share it with me so I can read it. My first thought from what you posted is that you only listed potassium iodide. Lugols / Iodoral contain potassium iodide and iodine. Dr Brownstein mentions that he never had the results like he has now that he gets with the combo even when dosing higher and higher amounts. If you have something that I can look at I will share it with Dr. B and see what he thinks as well. > > > > > > Buist, ND > > > > > > > > > > > > dosing for cancer > > > > > > > > > > > > I just thought I'd share an eye-opening little article I stumbled upon regarding the late Hoxsey's cancer cures. , maybe you could weigh in on this; would be most helpful > > > > > > Hoxsey started numerous alternative cancer clinics in the 40's--50'--which had proven cancer-remissions from tens of thousands of patients(like, 50,000!) but he was eventually excoriated by the AMA and other medical establishments, so much so that the only Hoxsey clinic left is in Tijuana. > > > > > > Anyway, his main " cure " for cancer, the secret to his success, was a tincture(also tablets)that contained potassium iodide!(along with lesser amounts of red clover, licorice, prickly ash, etc) > > > > > > Now get this!! Each tablet contained 75MGS of potassium iodide and he dosed cancer patients 2 TABLETS, UP TO FOUR TIMES PER DAY! I am not a math major, but I can see very quickly that this is a LOT of mgs and it means that I might need to rethink the dosing in order to really beat the cancer. > > > I cannot imagine 600mgs of Iodoral a day, but apparently it worked. The whole thing is disconcerting for me, actually, but indeed it is food for thought for one with a very cancerous gland still inside. On scans, after 6 mos on an average of 200mgs iodoral, nothing has changed and I am experiencing persistent pain in compartments of the neck. Gosh, maybe I need to get up to 500mgs.Any suggestions? > > > > > > Again, if you have more to offer on this , it would be most helpful. > > > > > > Oh, also, Hoxsey listed side effects that are right in line with those on the breast cancer choices site, and suggested pulse-dosing(though not calling it that)and recommended working one's way up to dose should detox get too much. He also said that diet had to be close to vegetarian, and very pure, in order for the cure to work. Pretty amazing that this was in the fifties. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Marcy > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2011 Report Share Posted April 10, 2011 Hi Marcy, Besides the Gerson all organic diet and coffee enemas, I now realize that one of the most important supplements is iodine. I still take pancreatic enzymes in between meals; no longer take B17 ,I take large amounts of Vitamin C and I did have a friend build me a Rife machine back in those days, however, I only used it a few times. It occurred to me that Royal Rife was no longer with us, and how do we know if the frequencies are really the correct ones for good health? Others have had results with it, but that’s just what I felt.I had my mercury amalgams removed in a safe way, according to the specifications of Hal Huggins,, DDS, and then chelation therapy; 20 intravenously . Bottom line is we all have to study and research and then do what we feel is best for us. Kathleen dosing for cancer> > > > > > > > > > > > I just thought I'd share an eye-opening little article I stumbled upon regarding the late Hoxsey's cancer cures. , maybe you could weigh in on this; would be most helpful> > > > > > Hoxsey started numerous alternative cancer clinics in the 40's--50'--which had proven cancer-remissions from tens of thousands of patients(like, 50,000!) but he was eventually excoriated by the AMA and other medical establishments, so much so that the only Hoxsey clinic left is in Tijuana.> > > > > > Anyway, his main "cure" for cancer, the secret to his success, was a tincture(also tablets)that contained potassium iodide!(along with lesser amounts of red clover, licorice, prickly ash, etc)> > > > > > Now get this!! Each tablet contained 75MGS of potassium iodide and he dosed cancer patients 2 TABLETS, UP TO FOUR TIMES PER DAY! I am not a math major, but I can see very quickly that this is a LOT of mgs and it means that I might need to rethink the dosing in order to really beat the cancer.> > > I cannot imagine 600mgs of Iodoral a day, but apparently it worked. The whole thing is disconcerting for me, actually, but indeed it is food for thought for one with a very cancerous gland still inside. On scans, after 6 mos on an average of 200mgs iodoral, nothing has changed and I am experiencing persistent pain in compartments of the neck. Gosh, maybe I need to get up to 500mgs.Any suggestions?> > > > > > Again, if you have more to offer on this , it would be most helpful.> > > > > > Oh, also, Hoxsey listed side effects that are right in line with those on the breast cancer choices site, and suggested pulse-dosing(though not calling it that)and recommended working one's way up to dose should detox get too much. He also said that diet had to be close to vegetarian, and very pure, in order for the cure to work. Pretty amazing that this was in the fifties.> > > > > > Thank you,> > > > > > Marcy> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2011 Report Share Posted April 10, 2011 They have found his actual notes. Rife also had a live microscope that could watch reactions in live cells which really is even more amazing to me than the rest of it. I have known people with cancer lumps on their faces that fell off after 90 minutes of treatment within the next day or two and they had major surgery 3 weeks earlier to remove cancer on face and needed repeat surgery so tried the light and bought their own .. It also found my FM five years before the MDs. It felt like an all over body massage in 30 minutes of light waves for FM. It could be that the machine that was made for you wasn't a good match though. I have had eye infections and ear infections disappear without other treatments using the Rife. I also saw a child with hundreds of warts that had them fall off after a couple of treatments. Cancer seems to be about a 50% success rate from what I have heard. Pam On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Kathleen Blake <kathleenblake@...> wrote:  Hi Marcy,  Besides the Gerson all organic diet and coffee enemas, I now realize that one of the most important supplements is iodine. I still take pancreatic enzymes in between meals; no longer take B17 ,I take large amounts of Vitamin C and I did have a friend build me a Rife machine back in those days, however, I only used it a few times. It occurred to me that Royal Rife was no longer with us, and how do we know if the frequencies are really the correct ones for good health? Others have had results with it, but that’s just what I felt.I had my mercury amalgams removed in a safe way, according to the specifications of Hal Huggins,, DDS, and then chelation therapy; 20 intravenously . Bottom line is we all have to study and research and then do what we feel is best for us. Kathleen dosing for cancer> > > > > > > > > > > > I just thought I'd share an eye-opening little article I stumbled upon regarding the late Hoxsey's cancer cures. , maybe you could weigh in on this; would be most helpful> > > > > > Hoxsey started numerous alternative cancer clinics in the 40's--50'--which had proven cancer-remissions from tens of thousands of patients(like, 50,000!) but he was eventually excoriated by the AMA and other medical establishments, so much so that the only Hoxsey clinic left is in Tijuana.> > > > > > Anyway, his main " cure " for cancer, the secret to his success, was a tincture(also tablets)that contained potassium iodide!(along with lesser amounts of red clover, licorice, prickly ash, etc)> > > > > > Now get this!! Each tablet contained 75MGS of potassium iodide and he dosed cancer patients 2 TABLETS, UP TO FOUR TIMES PER DAY! I am not a math major, but I can see very quickly that this is a LOT of mgs and it means that I might need to rethink the dosing in order to really beat the cancer.> > > I cannot imagine 600mgs of Iodoral a day, but apparently it worked. The whole thing is disconcerting for me, actually, but indeed it is food for thought for one with a very cancerous gland still inside. On scans, after 6 mos on an average of 200mgs iodoral, nothing has changed and I am experiencing persistent pain in compartments of the neck. Gosh, maybe I need to get up to 500mgs.Any suggestions?> > > > > > Again, if you have more to offer on this , it would be most helpful.> > > > > > Oh, also, Hoxsey listed side effects that are right in line with those on the breast cancer choices site, and suggested pulse-dosing(though not calling it that)and recommended working one's way up to dose should detox get too much. He also said that diet had to be close to vegetarian, and very pure, in order for the cure to work. Pretty amazing that this was in the fifties.> > > > > > Thank you,> > > > > > Marcy> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Alternative cancer treatment has been around a long time. Rife was in the 1920's. Hoxley, Gerson, Coley, Kelley, Gaston Naessens, Kurt Donsbach, Koch, Lawrence Burton, Dr. Stan Burzynski, Dr. Stan Bynum, Flanagan, Hans Nieper, JH Tilden, Rene Caisse (Essiac, the tea is her name backwards), just a partial list of those who have cured cancer and the numbers of patients are staggering, just not well known. What's most fascinating is the numbers of people who were able to find these folks without the use of the internet. Definitely very interesting reading about all of them. There are clinics in many areas of the world that have been treating cancer alternatively for decades, but that info is stifled here in the U.S. Cancer is big business here, well over 100 billion annually, and that's what it's all about here, money. We've been indoctrinated to believe that the U.S. method of treatment is the best and only way, it's ludicrous. The only medical treatment that the U.S. excels at is trauma care. Linn > > I just thought I'd share an eye-opening little article I stumbled upon regarding the late Hoxsey's cancer cures. , maybe you could weigh in on this; would be most helpful > > Hoxsey started numerous alternative cancer clinics in the 40's--50'--which had proven cancer-remissions from tens of thousands of patients(like, 50,000!) but he was eventually excoriated by the AMA and other medical establishments, so much so that the only Hoxsey clinic left is in Tijuana. > > Anyway, his main " cure " for cancer, the secret to his success, was a tincture(also tablets)that contained potassium iodide!(along with lesser amounts of red clover, licorice, prickly ash, etc) > > Now get this!! Each tablet contained 75MGS of potassium iodide and he dosed cancer patients 2 TABLETS, UP TO FOUR TIMES PER DAY! I am not a math major, but I can see very quickly that this is a LOT of mgs and it means that I might need to rethink the dosing in order to really beat the cancer. > I cannot imagine 600mgs of Iodoral a day, but apparently it worked. The whole thing is disconcerting for me, actually, but indeed it is food for thought for one with a very cancerous gland still inside. On scans, after 6 mos on an average of 200mgs iodoral, nothing has changed and I am experiencing persistent pain in compartments of the neck. Gosh, maybe I need to get up to 500mgs.Any suggestions? > > Again, if you have more to offer on this , it would be most helpful. > > Oh, also, Hoxsey listed side effects that are right in line with those on the breast cancer choices site, and suggested pulse-dosing(though not calling it that)and recommended working one's way up to dose should detox get too much. He also said that diet had to be close to vegetarian, and very pure, in order for the cure to work. Pretty amazing that this was in the fifties. > > Thank you, > > Marcy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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