Re: Does too much inorganic iodine cause the thyroid to shut down?

[Guest guest]

You could order Iodoral (iodine) from breast cancer choices on the internet. You're not going to talk a pharmacist or a regular MD into the benefits of iodine, just ND docs.I take Iodoral without doc's consent. It is my body and I will be proactive in my own health care needs is how I feel about it. I take in the information and do what I feel is best for me. Doctor's have let me down so much in my life the heck with them. From: kathrynlapp <kalapp@...>iodine Sent: Sat, April 16, 2011 11:11:22 PMSubject: Does too much inorganic iodine cause the thyroid to shut down?

Hi there, back to the group after a year away!

Would you please help me? My pharmacist said that taking too much inorganic iodine will eventually cause the thyroid to "shut down".

I lent my copy of the Brownstein Iodine book to someone, so I can't look it up for myself.

I looked on the iodine4health website, and the only thing they say about this subject is that taking a certain amount is toxic. They don't say what toxic means or if the "thyroid shuts down".

Can someone please post a link to answer this question? Then I can show the pharmacist.

Thanks! And thanks again to who selflessly helps us with this site!!!

Lapp in Calgary, Alberta

[Guest guest]

My thyroid has woken up with iodine. Even armour barely kept me going. Now I am actually warm-98 and don't wear winter coats all summer-hardly do even in winter. So I would look on optimax for information or on breastcancerchoices.org  Another site sent to me today was this one.http://www.thyroidwellness.com/thyroid-imbalance.html  Hope you can find something to answer your question but regular MD have strange ideas unless they are in 80s like 2 of my current doctors and can remember when iodine was used to treat everything. Keep in mind that you are in charge of your own body.  Pam

On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 9:23 PM, DeNormandie <blessedark2010@...> wrote:

 

 You could order Iodoral (iodine) from breast cancer choices on the internet. You're not going to talk a pharmacist or a regular MD into the benefits of iodine, just ND docs.

I take Iodoral without doc's consent. It is my body and I will be proactive in my own health care needs is how I feel about it. I take in the information and do what I feel  is best for me. Doctor's have let me down so much in my life the heck with them.

 

From: kathrynlapp <kalapp@...>iodine

Sent: Sat, April 16, 2011 11:11:22 PMSubject: Does too much inorganic iodine cause the thyroid to shut down?

 

Hi there, back to the group after a year away!

Would you please help me? My pharmacist said that taking too much inorganic iodine will eventually cause the thyroid to " shut down " .

I lent my copy of the Brownstein Iodine book to someone, so I can't look it up for myself.

I looked on the iodine4health website, and the only thing they say about this subject is that taking a certain amount is toxic. They don't say what toxic means or if the " thyroid shuts down " .

Can someone please post a link to answer this question? Then I can show the pharmacist.

Thanks! And thanks again to who selflessly helps us with this site!!!

Lapp in Calgary, Alberta

[Guest guest]

1. The idea that iodine causes the thyroid to shut down is based on the

faulty, false concept of the " Wolff-Chaikoff (W-C) effect " . W-C effect was

theorized to be the mechanism behind the idea that the thyroid shuts

down. The only trouble with that theory is that the W-C effect never

existed. It doesn't exist in rats, which was the basis of the claim to

start with, and it doesn't exist in humans. It's a scientific fraud, actually.

Medical students are still taught that the W-C effect is fact, when it is

not factual, it is a fraud. All the scary warnings about iodine are based

on a fraud. It's a travesty in our culture that an essential mineral has

been demonized by medical science and kept from people.

And moreover, the so-called existence of the W-C effect was behind the

removal of iodine in bread, which was done I think in the 1970s or late

1960s. Iodine was used as a dough conditioner, and when iodine was removed

from bread, bromides replaced iodine as the dough conditioner. As we know,

iodine and bromine are both halides, they are chemically related, so it's

not surprising that bromine and iodine might have similar

dough-conditioning faculties. Unfortunately, bromine mimics iodine in the

body and tricks the cells into letting the bromine dock on the cell

receptors that are meant for iodine. There the bromine causes illness,

because while it can mimic iodine for some purposes, it causes disease in

the body.

If iodine in fact could cause the thyroid to shut down, then when the

society removed iodine from the bread, and therefore the iodine content of

the people's diets plummeted, by that theory the incidence of thyroid

disease should have gone down, since there was less iodine in the

diet. But in fact thyroid disease has skyrocketed since iodine was removed

from bread.

2. As far as Iodine4Health goes, that site really is not reliable. When

that site was constructed by the previous listowner, any and all articles

about iodine were posted. At the time they were posted, we were just

beginning to learn the truth about iodine, so any source was important from

which to try to glean the truth. Reading any given article on that site,

one may encounter false information that goes back to the scientific fraud,

the so-called, never-existent, scientific fraud, the " Wolff-Chaikoff

effect. " In order to use the Iodine4Health site profitably, and there is

worthwhile information there, one must remain vigilant and become astute at

detecting the instances where the W-C effect is coloring the statements

with falsehoods.

The Optimox site is much better for information. While many of the

recommendations for supplementation levels are conservative and do not

reflect our cutting-edge understanding, and the articles do not include

discussion of the companion nutrients upon which the Iodine Protocol

depends, the discussions of how iodine works in the body can be relied

upon. Here is a link to the article on the W-C effect and addresses your

question:

http://optimox.com/pics/Iodine/IOD-04/IOD_04.html

Here is the general link to the Optimox research page:

http://optimox.com/pics/Iodine/IOD-04/IOD_04.html

I hope this clarifies things somewhat.

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At 11:11 PM 4/16/2011, you wrote:

>Hi there, back to the group after a year away!

>

>Would you please help me? My pharmacist said that taking too much

>inorganic iodine will eventually cause the thyroid to " shut down " .

>

>I lent my copy of the Brownstein Iodine book to someone, so I can't look

>it up for myself.

>

>I looked on the iodine4health website, and the only thing they say about

>this subject is that taking a certain amount is toxic. They don't say what

>toxic means or if the " thyroid shuts down " .

>

>Can someone please post a link to answer this question? Then I can show

>the pharmacist.

>

>

>Thanks! And thanks again to who selflessly helps us with this

>site!!!

>

> Lapp in Calgary, Alberta

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

Can the pharmacist guide you to his source for this information?

I've been doing a lot of reading (and I claim no expertise. I'm new at this)

and although I've read a lot about " iodine toxicity " I find that these sources

group all forms of iodine together, including radioactive, and tincture. Hardly

a fair call.

I have not yet read a documented case of " Lugol's poisoning " .

Jaye

>

> You could order Iodoral (iodine) from breast cancer choices on the internet.

> You're not going to talk a pharmacist or a regular MD into the benefits of

> iodine, just ND docs.

> I take Iodoral without doc's consent. It is my body and I will be proactive in

> my own health care needs is how I feel about it. I take in the information and

> do what I feel is best for me. Doctor's have let me down so much in my life

the

> heck with them.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: kathrynlapp <kalapp@...>

> iodine

> Sent: Sat, April 16, 2011 11:11:22 PM

> Subject: Does too much inorganic iodine cause the thyroid to shut

down?

>

>

> Hi there, back to the group after a year away!

>

> Would you please help me? My pharmacist said that taking too much inorganic

> iodine will eventually cause the thyroid to " shut down " .

>

>

> I lent my copy of the Brownstein Iodine book to someone, so I can't look it up

> for myself.

>

>

> I looked on the iodine4health website, and the only thing they say about this

> subject is that taking a certain amount is toxic. They don't say what toxic

> means or if the " thyroid shuts down " .

>

> Can someone please post a link to answer this question? Then I can show the

> pharmacist.

>

> Thanks! And thanks again to who selflessly helps us with this

site!!!

>

> Lapp in Calgary, Alberta

>

[Guest guest]

There are no cases of iodine toxicity or Lugol's poisoning. There are,

however, cases of bromide detoxification symptoms. Please see my other

post on this subject line for more information.

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At 01:01 PM 4/17/2011, you wrote:

>

>

>Can the pharmacist guide you to his source for this information?

>

>I've been doing a lot of reading (and I claim no expertise. I'm new at

>this) and although I've read a lot about " iodine toxicity " I find that

>these sources group all forms of iodine together, including radioactive,

>and tincture. Hardly a fair call.

>

>I have not yet read a documented case of " Lugol's poisoning " .

>

>Jaye

>

>

> >

> > You could order Iodoral (iodine) from breast cancer choices on the

> internet.

> > You're not going to talk a pharmacist or a regular MD into the benefits of

> > iodine, just ND docs.

> > I take Iodoral without doc's consent. It is my body and I will be

> proactive in

> > my own health care needs is how I feel about it. I take in the

> information and

> > do what I feel is best for me. Doctor's have let me down so much in my

> life the

> > heck with them.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: kathrynlapp <kalapp@...>

> > iodine

> > Sent: Sat, April 16, 2011 11:11:22 PM

> > Subject: Does too much inorganic iodine cause the thyroid to

> shut down?

> >

> >

> > Hi there, back to the group after a year away!

> >

> > Would you please help me? My pharmacist said that taking too much

> inorganic

> > iodine will eventually cause the thyroid to " shut down " .

> >

> >

> > I lent my copy of the Brownstein Iodine book to someone, so I can't

> look it up

> > for myself.

> >

> >

> > I looked on the iodine4health website, and the only thing they say

> about this

> > subject is that taking a certain amount is toxic. They don't say what

> toxic

> > means or if the " thyroid shuts down " .

> >

> > Can someone please post a link to answer this question? Then I can show

> the

> > pharmacist.

> >

> > Thanks! And thanks again to who selflessly helps us with this

> site!!!

> >

> > Lapp in Calgary, Alberta

> >

>

>

>

>

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