Re: High TSH Please Advise! Please Comment!

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Could I please get a few of you folks that are more knowledgeable than me to

comment on this please? I've been taking my basal temp more often, and today, I

don't know what happened, but my temp has not gotten over 95.7 degrees all day,

and I've felt cold, but I'm also tired, because I was up until 4am the other

night. I know I've got to get control of that one! We ate lunch late, I was

starving, and not feeling right. Still 95.3 degrees. I also took my Intramax

vitamins, and now I'm 97.9 degrees, and feeling great. I've had a few days like

this, since I posted last. My questions right now are:

1. I'm getting my mercury teeth out the first week of February. Should I just

wait to get my thyroid tested w/free T3 and T4 until after this, and I've done a

heavy metal cleanse, or does it matter?

2. I'm going to do the iodine load test, instead of the iodine patch. When

should I get this done pertaining to my first question, and does it matter when?

Thanks for your help! I feel like I'm covering all the bases, but still

stabbing in the dark. I just wished insurance would cover seeing a naturopathic

physician that also incorporates conventional medicine. My regular doctor is

insisting I simply start Synthroid at 25mg, which he calls a low dose, and

re-access in a couple of months. I'm not into the take these tablets and call

me in a couple of months thing, but at least he does want to see how my thyroid

free T's will come out. I just don't know if it will figure into his decision

to medicate, when I think my body is simply going through some detoxing/changes

with all I've described below. Thanks again!

Chris

> >

> > Hi

> > I haven't seen a response to your post, so will try to answer. I am not

quite sure what all you are asking, but this is a start!

> >

> > Most people feel the best when their free T3 and free T4 are in the upper

1/3rd of the range. You didn't have that tested this time, so can't tell much.

> >

> > Please post the ranges when you are posting test results, as they are needed

to interpret your results. Many labs use different scales.

> >

> > The patch test is really not accurate at all, because many things can effect

it. I believe there is an explanation of this in the files.

> >

> > TSH is often higher in the first 6 or so months of taking iodine because

your body is adjusting to getting it. It seems you took a small amount in August

2009, but I can't tell if you have continued it, and at what level. Are you

taking the companion nutrients?

> >

> > Your sinus problems are most likely due to the work on your teeth. Getting

that fixed will probably help. Many who have had root canals and crowns that

have sinus problems have it go away when they get rid of the root canals and

crowns.

> >

> > Hope that helps!

> > Donna in IL

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi, I recently had my yearly wellness exam with bloodwork. My TSH came back

> > at 19.3. They did not test my free T3 or free T4 this time, but I have

before.

> > Let me tell you how I got here, and I'll tell you what's going on now.

> > >

> > > In February of 2009 I had PVC's(premature ventricular contractions) that

> > happened. Basically my heart just all the sudden started skipping beats, and

> > would always happen in the evening throughout the night only. At this time

my

> > TSH was 5.8, and they thought my thyroid was causing problems. My only

thyroid

> > symptoms was being tired, but I don't get to bed on time, and not enough

sleep.

> > I had already been taking organic supplements for about 7 years, but hadn't

> > changed anything in our diet. We changed supplements, and I began taking

> > Ubiquinol a little over a year ago. Steadily my heartbeat became completely

> > normal. I did a ton of research and joined the Iodine group, and Iodine

> > supplementation. However I wasn't completely sold on very high doses. So I

> > started in August 2009 with 6.25mg of Iodoral. In October of last year my

TSH

> > was 5.3, free T4=1.12, and free T3=2.9, so improvement. In December 2009 my

TSH

> > was 4.8, freeT4=1.07, and freeT3=3.4. Around this past March or so, I did

the

> > Iodine Patch Test again, and it was gone in 7 hours so I doubled the dose

and

> > have been on 1 pill=12mg/day. Since then my patch test lasts for almost 18

> > hours, which is good enough for me. I know the iodine load test would be

much

> > more accurate, but I've been cheap, but I'm not going to be that cheap over

my

> > health. I just haven't had any problems, and feel great. I've read a lot

about

> > where the TSH is ideal, which I think is supposed to be around 2.0, and I

think

> > there is more accurate info here but I haven't found it, or the ideal free

T3

> > and free T4.

> > >

> > > From this past September we've done or are doing the following:

> > > 1. Switched multivitamins to Intramax organic liquid, which has been the

best

> > I've ever tried, with immediate results, but this thing also is a

detoxifier,

> > and cleanser a little bit.

> > > 2. We've been doing some pretty intense colon cleansing then a parasite

> > cleanse and now a liver cleanse since the middle of November. This parasite

> > cleanse ended the day before my exam/bloodwork, and we started the liver

cleanse

> > the day before as well. I didn't think it would screw up my bloodwork, but

> > maybe it did?

> > > 3. The night before my exam, I only got about 4 hours of sleep, and for

quite

> > a long time now, I don't get to bed until at least 12am, and sometimes I get

up

> > by 8am, sometimes it's to bed later, and I get so exhausted that I don't get

up

> > until 10am. Keeping up with 2 little ones, and moving into our new home 2

years

> > ago has by far been the busiest and most stressful times in my life. I am

> > getting caught up, I just need to re-discipline myself to get to bed before

11pm

> > and up by 7 am. This seems the most biological natural. Could this mess up

> > the tests this much?

> > > 4. I have my front top two teeth that are caps with mercury all over the

back

> > of them, and now I know that there is quite a bit of mercury in my roots as

> > well.(9 root canals, 2 oral surgeries about 21 years ago, but the caps were

put

> > on 12.5 years ago, and I've had many sinus problems since then) Recently

> > they've been getting numb again. I found a holistic dentist recently, and

went

> > to the oral surgeon to look at replacing them with Zirconium. I am having

this

> > done sometime in late January/early February. I really believe that this is

a

> > significant source of my total health issues, as it's been in me a long

time.

> > It's probably causing problems with my thyroid, but like I said, I'm not

really

> > having hypothyroid symptoms. What do you think?

> > > 5.We've changed 60% of our food as well progressively over the last 2

months,

> > getting rid of the bad ingredients. So at least 80% of all we eat no longer

has

> > the bad ingredients that Mike , Dr. Mercola, etc. say we shouldn't be

> > eating. It's not organic. Since then we've had very little indigestion, and

> > have been feeling even better. We've also changed all of our dairy to raw,

> > meats to grass fed, eggs to organic cage free and oils to coconut, palm

> > shortening, and olive oil, but we don't use much oil, but we are using

coconut

> > oil, and putting a tad bit in a breakfast smoothie 3 days/week along with

our

> > normal organic green drink that we take 7 days/wk. We've lost some weight

with

> > this.

> > > 6. I need to exercise! I've been stagnant, yet extremely busy being a stay

> > at home dad, and dealing with our home moving experience. I barely sit and

> > relax, but it's not exercise. Just like I grew up on a dairy farm, but it

> > wasn't exercise, and I felt it playing football.

> > 7. Also, all of these test results as well as the PVC's all have ironically

> > happened at the end of a month long sinus infection, and I'm pretty wore out

by

> > then, from not sleeping well, and fighting with the sinus

> > infection/bronchitis/etc. I can't help but think that my thyroid and body is

> > very overstressed? I've had these type of sinus problems continually since I

> > had these teeth done 21 years ago. It got better but then when I got the

caps

> > put in in 1997, it got really worse again, and now amazingly it's better

than it

> > was even 2 years ago.

> > I'm also going to take my basal temp over the next week or so, and I'll post

that. I'll also do the iodine patch test tomorrow and post the results.

> > My temp this morning was 97.6, and 97.4 2 minutes later. My iodine patch has

> > been on for 8 hours and is still strong, but I'm sure the iodine load test

would

> > tell me to take more iodine, but I don't think it would be over 30 mg or so.

> > Chris

> >

> > > Thanks for reading and your advice!

> > > God Bless! Chris

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Check www.drrind.com - it is not unusual to have temps fluctuate throughout the day when there are thyroid and / or adrenal issues.

Probably a good idea to wait for testing until you remove the amalgams and let your body settle down a bit. I would probably do the iodine test in a few weeks too.

Many do not do well on synthetic thyroid medications like Synthroid. There are natural options like Nature-throid.

Steph

Re: High TSH Please Advise! Please Comment!

Could I please get a few of you folks that are more knowledgeable than me to comment on this please? I've been taking my basal temp more often, and today, I don't know what happened, but my temp has not gotten over 95.7 degrees all day, and I've felt cold, but I'm also tired, because I was up until 4am the other night. I know I've got to get control of that one! We ate lunch late, I was starving, and not feeling right. Still 95.3 degrees. I also took my Intramax vitamins, and now I'm 97.9 degrees, and feeling great. I've had a few days like this, since I posted last. My questions right now are:1. I'm getting my mercury teeth out the first week of February. Should I just wait to get my thyroid tested w/free T3 and T4 until after this, and I've done a heavy metal cleanse, or does it matter?2. I'm going to do the iodine load test, instead of the iodine patch. When should I get this done pertaining to my first question, and does it matter when?Thanks for your help! I feel like I'm covering all the bases, but still stabbing in the dark. I just wished insurance would cover seeing a naturopathic physician that also incorporates conventional medicine. My regular doctor is insisting I simply start Synthroid at 25mg, which he calls a low dose, and re-access in a couple of months. I'm not into the take these tablets and call me in a couple of months thing, but at least he does want to see how my thyroid free T's will come out. I just don't know if it will figure into his decision to medicate, when I think my body is simply going through some detoxing/changes with all I've described below. Thanks again!Chris> >> > Hi > > I haven't seen a response to your post, so will try to answer. I am not quite sure what all you are asking, but this is a start!> > > > Most people feel the best when their free T3 and free T4 are in the upper 1/3rd of the range. You didn't have that tested this time, so can't tell much.> > > > Please post the ranges when you are posting test results, as they are needed to interpret your results. Many labs use different scales.> > > > The patch test is really not accurate at all, because many things can effect it. I believe there is an explanation of this in the files.> > > > TSH is often higher in the first 6 or so months of taking iodine because your body is adjusting to getting it. It seems you took a small amount in August 2009, but I can't tell if you have continued it, and at what level. Are you taking the companion nutrients?> > > > Your sinus problems are most likely due to the work on your teeth. Getting that fixed will probably help. Many who have had root canals and crowns that have sinus problems have it go away when they get rid of the root canals and crowns.> > > > Hope that helps!> > Donna in IL> > > > > > > > > > Hi, I recently had my yearly wellness exam with bloodwork. My TSH came back> > at 19.3. They did not test my free T3 or free T4 this time, but I have before.> > Let me tell you how I got here, and I'll tell you what's going on now.> > >> > > In February of 2009 I had PVC's(premature ventricular contractions) that> > happened. Basically my heart just all the sudden started skipping beats, and> > would always happen in the evening throughout the night only. At this time my> > TSH was 5.8, and they thought my thyroid was causing problems. My only thyroid> > symptoms was being tired, but I don't get to bed on time, and not enough sleep.> > I had already been taking organic supplements for about 7 years, but hadn't> > changed anything in our diet. We changed supplements, and I began taking> > Ubiquinol a little over a year ago. Steadily my heartbeat became completely> > normal. I did a ton of research and joined the Iodine group, and Iodine> > supplementation. However I wasn't completely sold on very high doses. So I> > started in August 2009 with 6.25mg of Iodoral. In October of last year my TSH> > was 5.3, free T4=1.12, and free T3=2.9, so improvement. In December 2009 my TSH> > was 4.8, freeT4=1.07, and freeT3=3.4. Around this past March or so, I did the> > Iodine Patch Test again, and it was gone in 7 hours so I doubled the dose and> > have been on 1 pill=12mg/day. Since then my patch test lasts for almost 18> > hours, which is good enough for me. I know the iodine load test would be much> > more accurate, but I've been cheap, but I'm not going to be that cheap over my> > health. I just haven't had any problems, and feel great. I've read a lot about> > where the TSH is ideal, which I think is supposed to be around 2.0, and I think> > there is more accurate info here but I haven't found it, or the ideal free T3> > and free T4.> > >> > > From this past September we've done or are doing the following:> > > 1. Switched multivitamins to Intramax organic liquid, which has been the best> > I've ever tried, with immediate results, but this thing also is a detoxifier,> > and cleanser a little bit.> > > 2. We've been doing some pretty intense colon cleansing then a parasite> > cleanse and now a liver cleanse since the middle of November. This parasite> > cleanse ended the day before my exam/bloodwork, and we started the liver cleanse> > the day before as well. I didn't think it would screw up my bloodwork, but> > maybe it did?> > > 3. The night before my exam, I only got about 4 hours of sleep, and for quite> > a long time now, I don't get to bed until at least 12am, and sometimes I get up> > by 8am, sometimes it's to bed later, and I get so exhausted that I don't get up> > until 10am. Keeping up with 2 little ones, and moving into our new home 2 years> > ago has by far been the busiest and most stressful times in my life. I am> > getting caught up, I just need to re-discipline myself to get to bed before 11pm> > and up by 7 am. This seems the most biological natural. Could this mess up> > the tests this much?> > > 4. I have my front top two teeth that are caps with mercury all over the back> > of them, and now I know that there is quite a bit of mercury in my roots as> > well.(9 root canals, 2 oral surgeries about 21 years ago, but the caps were put> > on 12.5 years ago, and I've had many sinus problems since then) Recently> > they've been getting numb again. I found a holistic dentist recently, and went> > to the oral surgeon to look at replacing them with Zirconium. I am having this> > done sometime in late January/early February. I really believe that this is a> > significant source of my total health issues, as it's been in me a long time.> > It's probably causing problems with my thyroid, but like I said, I'm not really> > having hypothyroid symptoms. What do you think?> > > 5.We've changed 60% of our food as well progressively over the last 2 months,> > getting rid of the bad ingredients. So at least 80% of all we eat no longer has> > the bad ingredients that Mike , Dr. Mercola, etc. say we shouldn't be> > eating. It's not organic. Since then we've had very little indigestion, and> > have been feeling even better. We've also changed all of our dairy to raw,> > meats to grass fed, eggs to organic cage free and oils to coconut, palm> > shortening, and olive oil, but we don't use much oil, but we are using coconut> > oil, and putting a tad bit in a breakfast smoothie 3 days/week along with our> > normal organic green drink that we take 7 days/wk. We've lost some weight with> > this.> > > 6. I need to exercise! I've been stagnant, yet extremely busy being a stay> > at home dad, and dealing with our home moving experience. I barely sit and> > relax, but it's not exercise. Just like I grew up on a dairy farm, but it> > wasn't exercise, and I felt it playing football.> > 7. Also, all of these test results as well as the PVC's all have ironically> > happened at the end of a month long sinus infection, and I'm pretty wore out by> > then, from not sleeping well, and fighting with the sinus> > infection/bronchitis/etc. I can't help but think that my thyroid and body is> > very overstressed? I've had these type of sinus problems continually since I> > had these teeth done 21 years ago. It got better but then when I got the caps> > put in in 1997, it got really worse again, and now amazingly it's better than it> > was even 2 years ago.> > I'm also going to take my basal temp over the next week or so, and I'll post that. I'll also do the iodine patch test tomorrow and post the results.> > My temp this morning was 97.6, and 97.4 2 minutes later. My iodine patch has> > been on for 8 hours and is still strong, but I'm sure the iodine load test would> > tell me to take more iodine, but I don't think it would be over 30 mg or so.> > Chris> > > > > Thanks for reading and your advice!> > > God Bless! Chris> > > > ________________________________> >>

[Guest guest]

Steph, yes I've actually used Dr. Rinds temp charts, to measure improving my

adrenal issues a few years ago, which worked. Did you mean do the iodine test in

a few weeks from now, or after I get the mercury teeth removed? Any other

thoughts on why my TSH was 19.3 as I described below? Chris

> > >

> > > Hi

> > > I haven't seen a response to your post, so will try to answer. I am not

quite sure what all you are asking, but this is a start!

> > >

> > > Most people feel the best when their free T3 and free T4 are in the

upper 1/3rd of the range. You didn't have that tested this time, so can't tell

much.

> > >

> > > Please post the ranges when you are posting test results, as they are

needed to interpret your results. Many labs use different scales.

> > >

> > > The patch test is really not accurate at all, because many things can

effect it. I believe there is an explanation of this in the files.

> > >

> > > TSH is often higher in the first 6 or so months of taking iodine because

your body is adjusting to getting it. It seems you took a small amount in August

2009, but I can't tell if you have continued it, and at what level. Are you

taking the companion nutrients?

> > >

> > > Your sinus problems are most likely due to the work on your teeth.

Getting that fixed will probably help. Many who have had root canals and crowns

that have sinus problems have it go away when they get rid of the root canals

and crowns.

> > >

> > > Hope that helps!

> > > Donna in IL

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi, I recently had my yearly wellness exam with bloodwork. My TSH came

back

> > > at 19.3. They did not test my free T3 or free T4 this time, but I have

before.

> > > Let me tell you how I got here, and I'll tell you what's going on now.

> > > >

> > > > In February of 2009 I had PVC's(premature ventricular contractions)

that

> > > happened. Basically my heart just all the sudden started skipping beats,

and

> > > would always happen in the evening throughout the night only. At this

time my

> > > TSH was 5.8, and they thought my thyroid was causing problems. My only

thyroid

> > > symptoms was being tired, but I don't get to bed on time, and not enough

sleep.

> > > I had already been taking organic supplements for about 7 years, but

hadn't

> > > changed anything in our diet. We changed supplements, and I began taking

> > > Ubiquinol a little over a year ago. Steadily my heartbeat became

completely

> > > normal. I did a ton of research and joined the Iodine group, and Iodine

> > > supplementation. However I wasn't completely sold on very high doses. So

I

> > > started in August 2009 with 6.25mg of Iodoral. In October of last year

my TSH

> > > was 5.3, free T4=1.12, and free T3=2.9, so improvement. In December 2009

my TSH

> > > was 4.8, freeT4=1.07, and freeT3=3.4. Around this past March or so, I

did the

> > > Iodine Patch Test again, and it was gone in 7 hours so I doubled the

dose and

> > > have been on 1 pill=12mg/day. Since then my patch test lasts for almost

18

> > > hours, which is good enough for me. I know the iodine load test would be

much

> > > more accurate, but I've been cheap, but I'm not going to be that cheap

over my

> > > health. I just haven't had any problems, and feel great. I've read a lot

about

> > > where the TSH is ideal, which I think is supposed to be around 2.0, and

I think

> > > there is more accurate info here but I haven't found it, or the ideal

free T3

> > > and free T4.

> > > >

> > > > From this past September we've done or are doing the following:

> > > > 1. Switched multivitamins to Intramax organic liquid, which has been

the best

> > > I've ever tried, with immediate results, but this thing also is a

detoxifier,

> > > and cleanser a little bit.

> > > > 2. We've been doing some pretty intense colon cleansing then a

parasite

> > > cleanse and now a liver cleanse since the middle of November. This

parasite

> > > cleanse ended the day before my exam/bloodwork, and we started the liver

cleanse

> > > the day before as well. I didn't think it would screw up my bloodwork,

but

> > > maybe it did?

> > > > 3. The night before my exam, I only got about 4 hours of sleep, and

for quite

> > > a long time now, I don't get to bed until at least 12am, and sometimes I

get up

> > > by 8am, sometimes it's to bed later, and I get so exhausted that I don't

get up

> > > until 10am. Keeping up with 2 little ones, and moving into our new home

2 years

> > > ago has by far been the busiest and most stressful times in my life. I

am

> > > getting caught up, I just need to re-discipline myself to get to bed

before 11pm

> > > and up by 7 am. This seems the most biological natural. Could this mess

up

> > > the tests this much?

> > > > 4. I have my front top two teeth that are caps with mercury all over

the back

> > > of them, and now I know that there is quite a bit of mercury in my roots

as

> > > well.(9 root canals, 2 oral surgeries about 21 years ago, but the caps

were put

> > > on 12.5 years ago, and I've had many sinus problems since then) Recently

> > > they've been getting numb again. I found a holistic dentist recently,

and went

> > > to the oral surgeon to look at replacing them with Zirconium. I am

having this

> > > done sometime in late January/early February. I really believe that this

is a

> > > significant source of my total health issues, as it's been in me a long

time.

> > > It's probably causing problems with my thyroid, but like I said, I'm not

really

> > > having hypothyroid symptoms. What do you think?

> > > > 5.We've changed 60% of our food as well progressively over the last 2

months,

> > > getting rid of the bad ingredients. So at least 80% of all we eat no

longer has

> > > the bad ingredients that Mike , Dr. Mercola, etc. say we shouldn't

be

> > > eating. It's not organic. Since then we've had very little indigestion,

and

> > > have been feeling even better. We've also changed all of our dairy to

raw,

> > > meats to grass fed, eggs to organic cage free and oils to coconut, palm

> > > shortening, and olive oil, but we don't use much oil, but we are using

coconut

> > > oil, and putting a tad bit in a breakfast smoothie 3 days/week along

with our

> > > normal organic green drink that we take 7 days/wk. We've lost some

weight with

> > > this.

> > > > 6. I need to exercise! I've been stagnant, yet extremely busy being a

stay

> > > at home dad, and dealing with our home moving experience. I barely sit

and

> > > relax, but it's not exercise. Just like I grew up on a dairy farm, but

it

> > > wasn't exercise, and I felt it playing football.

> > > 7. Also, all of these test results as well as the PVC's all have

ironically

> > > happened at the end of a month long sinus infection, and I'm pretty wore

out by

> > > then, from not sleeping well, and fighting with the sinus

> > > infection/bronchitis/etc. I can't help but think that my thyroid and

body is

> > > very overstressed? I've had these type of sinus problems continually

since I

> > > had these teeth done 21 years ago. It got better but then when I got the

caps

> > > put in in 1997, it got really worse again, and now amazingly it's better

than it

> > > was even 2 years ago.

> > > I'm also going to take my basal temp over the next week or so, and I'll

post that. I'll also do the iodine patch test tomorrow and post the results.

> > > My temp this morning was 97.6, and 97.4 2 minutes later. My iodine patch

has

> > > been on for 8 hours and is still strong, but I'm sure the iodine load

test would

> > > tell me to take more iodine, but I don't think it would be over 30 mg or

so.

> > > Chris

> > >

> > > > Thanks for reading and your advice!

> > > > God Bless! Chris

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > >

> >

>