Re: Iodine testing or not?

[Guest guest]

It is not necessary for anyone to test. Dr. Brownstein has tested his patients and each one is deficient. I think we can assume everyone needs iodine. Since you had a goiter then you are very deficient.

Steph

Iodine testing or not?

Hello,I had a goiter (thyroid gland was enlarged 6X its size) and had itremoved in 2003. Should I test before taking iodine/iodide or is thefact of that goiter sufficient would you say?Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Even if one is deficient, a baseline test is always a good idea. That way one can test later on and compare results to see if or how much progress is being made. While the body needs iodine (certainly agreed), I think it may be a stretch to say that “everyone” is definitely deficient. We used to think that about Vitamin D3 but we are actually seeing some that are not deficient. I don’t think it wise to assume anything when it comes to the human body. I suggest the iodine Profile (urine) test from ZRT. Just my opinion.Be WellDr.L From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbeesSent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 8:08 PMiodine Subject: Re: Iodine testing or not? It is not necessary for anyone to test. Dr. Brownstein has tested his patients and each one is deficient. I think we can assume everyone needs iodine. Since you had a goiter then you are very deficient. Steph Iodine testing or not? Hello,I had a goiter (thyroid gland was enlarged 6X its size) and had itremoved in 2003. Should I test before taking iodine/iodide or is thefact of that goiter sufficient would you say?Thanks,

[Guest guest]

One of the deficiencies of our medical system is its reliance on test results,

in making a diagnoses, to the point that if signs, symptoms AND medical history

all point clearly at a presumptive diagnoses, the Dr. will disregard all that,

if the test results contradict.

Is this because test results are so much mor eaccurate and dependable? Hardly.

Every year the CDC sends out test samples, anonymously, to labs around the

country, for testing. They select samples which are unambiguos.Consistently, the

results are accurate about 50% of the time.So, do you have,...HepC? Might as

well flip a coin!

Why, then do Dr.'s give greater weight to lab results than to signs, symptoms

and history?

Because they are considered better evidence, in a court of law.Thats why med

students are taught, and have it drummed into their head test results, test

results.Its called CYA.

I'm pretty sure no insurance company is going to pay for your iodine test.So, if

your paying for it yourself, of all the tests you could be getting, an iodine

test is the worst value, for the $.Just my opinion,...Jim

>

> Even if one is deficient, a baseline test is always a good idea. That way

> one can test later on and compare results to see if or how much progress is

> being made. While the body needs iodine (certainly agreed), I think it may

> be a stretch to say that " everyone " is definitely deficient. We used to

> think that about Vitamin D3 but we are actually seeing some that are not

> deficient. I don't think it wise to assume anything when it comes to the

> human body. I suggest the iodine Profile (urine) test from ZRT. Just my

> opinion.

>

> Be Well

> Dr.L

>

>

> From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of

> ladybugsandbees

> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 8:08 PM

> iodine

> Subject: Re: Iodine testing or not?

>

>

>

>

>

> It is not necessary for anyone to test. Dr. Brownstein has tested his

> patients and each one is deficient. I think we can assume everyone needs

> iodine. Since you had a goiter then you are very deficient.

>

> Steph

>

>

> Iodine testing or not?

>

>

> Hello,

>

> I had a goiter (thyroid gland was enlarged 6X its size) and had it

> removed in 2003. Should I test before taking iodine/iodide or is the

> fact of that goiter sufficient would you say?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the suggestion. I like ZRT and didn't realize they had the

iodine one. Does it require a doctor or can we do it ourselves?

>

> Even if one is deficient, a baseline test is always a good idea. That

way

> one can test later on and compare results to see if or how much

progress is

> being made. While the body needs iodine (certainly agreed), I think

it may

> be a stretch to say that " everyone " is definitely deficient. We used

to

> think that about Vitamin D3 but we are actually seeing some that are

not

> deficient. I don't think it wise to assume anything when it comes to

the

> human body. I suggest the iodine Profile (urine) test from ZRT. Just

my

> opinion.

>

> Be Well

> Dr.L

>

>

> From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf

Of

> ladybugsandbees

> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 8:08 PM

> iodine

> Subject: Re: Iodine testing or not?

>

>

>

>

>

> It is not necessary for anyone to test. Dr. Brownstein has tested his

> patients and each one is deficient. I think we can assume everyone

needs

> iodine. Since you had a goiter then you are very deficient.

>

> Steph

>

>

> Iodine testing or not?

>

>

> Hello,

>

> I had a goiter (thyroid gland was enlarged 6X its size) and had it

> removed in 2003. Should I test before taking iodine/iodide or is the

> fact of that goiter sufficient would you say?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

A test may be a good idea for a baseline, but not everyone can afford to be

tested. The iodine protocol is not going to hurt someone if they were

among the tiny portion of the population that may be getting enough iodine

without supplementation. Any excess iodine is harmlessly washed out of the

body in the urine. However, it's virtually impossible that anyone is

getting enough iodine without supplementation because of the toxic bath of

halides that we all live in now. Those halides are everywhere in the

environment in large quantities-- they displace iodine from the body and

take up residence on the cell receptors, thus preventing proper functioning

of the cells. With sufficient iodine, not only is the body's need for

direct iodine use by the organs satisfied, but the halides are detoxified

from the body and iodine then takes its rightful place on the cell

receptors. So if people do not have the resources to be tested they don't

need to worry-- continue forward with the iodine protocol and find out how

you feel.

--

>Even if one is deficient, a baseline test is always a good idea. That way

>one can test later on and compare results to see if or how much progress

>is being made. While the body needs iodine (certainly agreed), I think it

>may be a stretch to say that " everyone " is definitely deficient. We used

>to think that about Vitamin D3 but we are actually seeing some that are

>not deficient. I don't think it wise to assume anything when it comes to

>the human body. I suggest the iodine Profile (urine) test from ZRT. Just

>my opinion.

>

>Be Well

>Dr.L

>

>

>From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of

>ladybugsandbees

>Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 8:08 PM

>iodine

>Subject: Re: Iodine testing or not?

>

>

>

>

>It is not necessary for anyone to test. Dr. Brownstein has tested his

>patients and each one is deficient. & nb

>

>

>

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

You make some very good points, . Kathleen

Re: Iodine testing or not?>>>>>It is not necessary for anyone to test. Dr. Brownstein has tested his >patients and each one is deficient. & nb>>>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

I disagree. Iodine is deficient in all the soils. Toxic halides are increasing. The iodine doctors are testing and finding everyone they test to be deficient. Iodine will flush out of the body if not needed.

As for the ZRT test I do not feel comfortable recommending it. It is very a new test. The moderators and I have decided to wait and see on it's accuracy. The test from Hakala has been correlating to issues of the body and has been used since the 1990's.

I do not tell people that they have to test because many are on a very tight budget. While testing is nice and gives you a baseline it is not necessary to have in order to begin taking iodine. I did not test my iodine levels (and I had cancer) until over a year later.

Iodine testing or not?

Hello,I had a goiter (thyroid gland was enlarged 6X its size) and had itremoved in 2003. Should I test before taking iodine/iodide or is thefact of that goiter sufficient would you say?Thanks,

[Guest guest]

I totally agree. Over 25 years ago when I started the Gerson Therapy, they started me with Lugols (they never test if patients need iodine, it's a given that we are all deficient in it), and I have taken Lugol's every day since , have gotten well and have never taken an iodine test! Kathleen

Iodine testing or not?

Hello,I had a goiter (thyroid gland was enlarged 6X its size) and had itremoved in 2003. Should I test before taking iodine/iodide or is thefact of that goiter sufficient would you say?Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Thanks --nice summation.

>

> A test may be a good idea for a baseline, but not everyone can afford to be

> tested. The iodine protocol is not going to hurt someone if they were

> among the tiny portion of the population that may be getting enough iodine

> without supplementation. Any excess iodine is harmlessly washed out of the

> body in the urine. However, it's virtually impossible that anyone is

> getting enough iodine without supplementation because of the toxic bath of

> halides that we all live in now. Those halides are everywhere in the

> environment in large quantities-- they displace iodine from the body and

> take up residence on the cell receptors, thus preventing proper functioning

> of the cells. With sufficient iodine, not only is the body's need for

> direct iodine use by the organs satisfied, but the halides are detoxified

> from the body and iodine then takes its rightful place on the cell

> receptors. So if people do not have the resources to be tested they don't

> need to worry-- continue forward with the iodine protocol and find out how

> you feel.

>

> --

>

>

>

> >Even if one is deficient, a baseline test is always a good idea. That way

> >one can test later on and compare results to see if or how much progress

> >is being made. While the body needs iodine (certainly agreed), I think it

> >may be a stretch to say that " everyone " is definitely deficient. We used

> >to think that about Vitamin D3 but we are actually seeing some that are

> >not deficient. I don't think it wise to assume anything when it comes to

> >the human body. I suggest the iodine Profile (urine) test from ZRT. Just

> >my opinion.

> >

> >Be Well

> >Dr.L

> >

> >

> >From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of

> >ladybugsandbees

> >Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 8:08 PM

> >iodine

> >Subject: Re: Iodine testing or not?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >It is not necessary for anyone to test. Dr. Brownstein has tested his

> >patients and each one is deficient. & nb

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> --A.J. Muste

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks to everyone. It's fantastic to be able to get info from several points of

view and then decide what to do.

>

> I totally agree. Over 25 years ago when I started the Gerson Therapy, they

started me with Lugols (they never test if patients need iodine, it's a given

that we are all deficient in it), and I have taken Lugol's every day since ,

have gotten well and have never taken an iodine test! Kathleen

> Iodine testing or not?

>

>

>

>

> Hello,

>

> I had a goiter (thyroid gland was enlarged 6X its size) and had it

> removed in 2003. Should I test before taking iodine/iodide or is the

> fact of that goiter sufficient would you say?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks . I'll put Hakala on my wish list for lab testing if I

decide to do that (with a note to do the Bromide piece of it). Does

Hakala test for Selenium do you know? Just curious on that one. I am in

the enviable position that I have family paying for whatever I want to

do to research my situation so, since they are sciency types, I like to

have labs for them and it's fun since I'm lucky enough to be able to

afford it through their generosity. I know---all of you are jealous now

aren't you?

>

> it is a BRAND NEW test and the mods and I have decided that

we cannot recommend it until we see how well it works. They are not

doing bromide testing as Hakala labs does which we recommend to all who

decide to test. Because you can see a high iodine reading and think you

are fine but the fact is that the symporters are blocked by bromide and

that is skewing the test.

>

> Neither Hakala or ZRT requires a doctor (ZRT can be done through

www.canaryclub.org ). The test that Hakala labs does has been used

effectively since the 1990's.

>

>

>

> Re: Iodine testing or not?

>

>

>

> Thanks for the suggestion. I like ZRT and didn't realize they had

the

> iodine one. Does it require a doctor or can we do it ourselves?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks. A correction on my previous post, and an elaboration.The CDC results

were innacurate 40% of the time, not 50%. So, lab results are slightly better

than flipping a coin.

In the 200+ years of our countries history, there is only 1 instance in which a

Company has been successfully prosecuted for negligent homicide.Mine collapse,

with long history of safety violations? No

Shipping company, that sailed the Titannic, with inadequate # of lifeboats? No

It was a medical laboratory.Woman had a lump in her breast.Dr. did a biopsy, and

sent results to lab.Came back benign. Year later, she died of breast

cancer.Investigation found lab management (presumably in order to increase

profits) was requiring the lab techs to process so many samples per hour, that

there was no way they could do so accurately.

Do you really think this is the only time when some manager, focused on profit

sharing, has done this? It would be nice to think that such a prosecution would

send a clear message to the industry, and prevent such behavior in the

future.Just like the Enron case prevented the Worldcom case,

etc.(NOT!!)Unfortunately, there is little evidence to justify such a

'preventative' effect from prosecutions.

Even when the lab results are correct, there is the potential for

mis-interpreting what they mean.Such as the reliance on TSH and total T-4 tests

as being appropriate tests for Hypothyroidism.

And, there are conditions which can't be diagnosed by tests.Adrenal fatigue

cannot be diagnosed by serum (blood tests) or 24 hr. urine tests.Only by saliva

tests, which most M.D.'s are unfamiliar with.

And there are conditions like pulmonary fibrosis.It is a condition which

progresses over many years, and will eventually kill you.By the time Dr's get a

'positive' finding on their tests, its too late; at that point all they can do

is (finally) tell you whats wrong, and that you have 6 mos. or so to live.Sorry

for the rant, guess you can tell I've kinda got a bug up my butt about lab

tests! Jim

> >

> > Even if one is deficient, a baseline test is always a good idea. That

way

> > one can test later on and compare results to see if or how much progress

is

> > being made. While the body needs iodine (certainly agreed), I think it

may

> > be a stretch to say that " everyone " is definitely deficient. We used to

> > think that about Vitamin D3 but we are actually seeing some that are not

> > deficient. I don't think it wise to assume anything when it comes to the

> > human body. I suggest the iodine Profile (urine) test from ZRT. Just my

> > opinion.

> >

> > Be Well

> > Dr.L

> >

> >

> > From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf

Of

> > ladybugsandbees

> > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 8:08 PM

> > iodine

> > Subject: Re: Iodine testing or not?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > It is not necessary for anyone to test. Dr. Brownstein has tested his

> > patients and each one is deficient. I think we can assume everyone needs

> > iodine. Since you had a goiter then you are very deficient.

> >

> > Steph

> >

> >

> > Iodine testing or not?

> >

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > I had a goiter (thyroid gland was enlarged 6X its size) and had it

> > removed in 2003. Should I test before taking iodine/iodide or is the

> > fact of that goiter sufficient would you say?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Jim, I found your post interesting. What is the source for the 40% inaccuracy? I

would like to include it in one of my articles.

-Ted

> > >

> > > Even if one is deficient, a baseline test is always a good idea. That

way

> > > one can test later on and compare results to see if or how much

progress is

> > > being made. While the body needs iodine (certainly agreed), I think it

may

> > > be a stretch to say that " everyone " is definitely deficient. We used

to

> > > think that about Vitamin D3 but we are actually seeing some that are

not

> > > deficient. I don't think it wise to assume anything when it comes to

the

> > > human body. I suggest the iodine Profile (urine) test from ZRT. Just

my

> > > opinion.

> > >

> > > Be Well

> > > Dr.L

> > >

> > >

> > > From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf

Of

> > > ladybugsandbees

> > > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 8:08 PM

> > > iodine

> > > Subject: Re: Iodine testing or not?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > It is not necessary for anyone to test. Dr. Brownstein has tested his

> > > patients and each one is deficient. I think we can assume everyone

needs

> > > iodine. Since you had a goiter then you are very deficient.

> > >

> > > Steph

> > >

> > >

> > > Iodine testing or not?

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello,

> > >

> > > I had a goiter (thyroid gland was enlarged 6X its size) and had it

> > > removed in 2003. Should I test before taking iodine/iodide or is the

> > > fact of that goiter sufficient would you say?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ted, Sorry, can't 'site' a reference, although it should be 'findable' with an

appropriately worded google search. I believe I heard it on a Network news

story.My memory is that they (CDC) do this every year, and results are

consistantly 60% accurate.Jim

> > > >

> > > > Even if one is deficient, a baseline test is always a good idea.

That way

> > > > one can test later on and compare results to see if or how much

progress is

> > > > being made. While the body needs iodine (certainly agreed), I think

it may

> > > > be a stretch to say that " everyone " is definitely deficient. We used

to

> > > > think that about Vitamin D3 but we are actually seeing some that are

not

> > > > deficient. I don't think it wise to assume anything when it comes to

the

> > > > human body. I suggest the iodine Profile (urine) test from ZRT. Just

my

> > > > opinion.

> > > >

> > > > Be Well

> > > > Dr.L

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On

Behalf Of

> > > > ladybugsandbees

> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 8:08 PM

> > > > iodine

> > > > Subject: Re: Iodine testing or not?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It is not necessary for anyone to test. Dr. Brownstein has tested

his

> > > > patients and each one is deficient. I think we can assume everyone

needs

> > > > iodine. Since you had a goiter then you are very deficient.

> > > >

> > > > Steph

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Iodine testing or not?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hello,

> > > >

> > > > I had a goiter (thyroid gland was enlarged 6X its size) and had it

> > > > removed in 2003. Should I test before taking iodine/iodide or is the

> > > > fact of that goiter sufficient would you say?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You both may be interested in the November 2010 The Atlantic article titled

" Lies, Damned Lies, and Medical Science " by H. Freedman.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/11/lies-damned-lies-and-medical\

-science/8269/

> > > >

> > > > Even if one is deficient, a baseline test is always a good idea.

That way

> > > > one can test later on and compare results to see if or how much

progress is

> > > > being made. While the body needs iodine (certainly agreed), I think

it may

> > > > be a stretch to say that " everyone " is definitely deficient. We used

to

> > > > think that about Vitamin D3 but we are actually seeing some that are

not

> > > > deficient. I don't think it wise to assume anything when it comes to

the

> > > > human body. I suggest the iodine Profile (urine) test from ZRT. Just

my

> > > > opinion.

> > > >

> > > > Be Well

> > > > Dr.L

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On

Behalf Of

> > > > ladybugsandbees

> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 8:08 PM

> > > > iodine

> > > > Subject: Re: Iodine testing or not?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It is not necessary for anyone to test. Dr. Brownstein has tested

his

> > > > patients and each one is deficient. I think we can assume everyone

needs

> > > > iodine. Since you had a goiter then you are very deficient.

> > > >

> > > > Steph

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Iodine testing or not?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hello,

> > > >

> > > > I had a goiter (thyroid gland was enlarged 6X its size) and had it

> > > > removed in 2003. Should I test before taking iodine/iodide or is the

> > > > fact of that goiter sufficient would you say?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Was this for one test only or for ALL laboratory tests. I have searched google

and can only find specific tests such as HIV and Lymes that this is true for.

Would you mind searching to help me find the reference?

-Ted

> > > > >

> > > > > Even if one is deficient, a baseline test is always a good idea.

That way

> > > > > one can test later on and compare results to see if or how much

progress is

> > > > > being made. While the body needs iodine (certainly agreed), I

think it may

> > > > > be a stretch to say that " everyone " is definitely deficient. We

used to

> > > > > think that about Vitamin D3 but we are actually seeing some that

are not

> > > > > deficient. I don't think it wise to assume anything when it comes

to the

> > > > > human body. I suggest the iodine Profile (urine) test from ZRT.

Just my

> > > > > opinion.

> > > > >

> > > > > Be Well

> > > > > Dr.L

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On

Behalf Of

> > > > > ladybugsandbees

> > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 8:08 PM

> > > > > iodine

> > > > > Subject: Re: Iodine testing or not?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > It is not necessary for anyone to test. Dr. Brownstein has tested

his

> > > > > patients and each one is deficient. I think we can assume everyone

needs

> > > > > iodine. Since you had a goiter then you are very deficient.

> > > > >

> > > > > Steph

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Iodine testing or not?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello,

> > > > >

> > > > > I had a goiter (thyroid gland was enlarged 6X its size) and had it

> > > > > removed in 2003. Should I test before taking iodine/iodide or is

the

> > > > > fact of that goiter sufficient would you say?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I found this excerpt from the article you mentioned.

" Perhaps only a minority of researchers were succumbing to this bias, but their

distorted findings were having an outsize effect on published research. To get

funding and tenured positions, and often merely to stay afloat, researchers have

to get their work published in well-regarded journals, where rejection rates can

climb above 90 percent. Not surprisingly, the studies that tend to make the

grade are those with eye-catching findings. But while coming up with

eye-catching theories is relatively easy, getting reality to bear them out is

another matter. The great majority collapse under the weight of contradictory

data when studied rigorously. Imagine, though, that five different research

teams test an interesting theory that's making the rounds, and four of the

groups correctly prove the idea false, while the one less cautious group

incorrectly " proves " it true through some combination of error, fluke, and

clever selection of data. Guess whose findings your doctor ends up reading about

in the journal, and you end up hearing about on the evening news? Researchers

can sometimes win attention by refuting a prominent finding, which can help to

at least raise doubts about results, but in general it is far more rewarding to

add a new insight or exciting-sounding twist to existing research than to retest

its basic premises—after all, simply re-proving someone else's results is

unlikely to get you published, and attempting to undermine the work of respected

colleagues can have ugly professional repercussions. "

It sounds very familiar.

I have been hard at work on the " bromine detox " theory, the assumptions of the

loading test and the iodine intake of the Japanese. My goal is not to prove

anyone wrong, but to create my own opinion based off of my work and the work of

others. I have been given an amazing opportunity to work in a lab and run my own

experiments and talk with iodine literate doctors around the country. Not

everyone agrees with what I have to say, but at least I have an opinion that I

have formulated on my own with my own research to back it up.

If anyone has questions about iodine testing at ZRT, why it is different than

the loading test, accuracy, precision, quality control, my research or anything

else, feel free to email me at zedtava@....

-Ted

> > > > >

> > > > > Even if one is deficient, a baseline test is always a good idea.

That way

> > > > > one can test later on and compare results to see if or how much

progress is

> > > > > being made. While the body needs iodine (certainly agreed), I

think it may

> > > > > be a stretch to say that " everyone " is definitely deficient. We

used to

> > > > > think that about Vitamin D3 but we are actually seeing some that

are not

> > > > > deficient. I don't think it wise to assume anything when it comes

to the

> > > > > human body. I suggest the iodine Profile (urine) test from ZRT.

Just my

> > > > > opinion.

> > > > >

> > > > > Be Well

> > > > > Dr.L

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On

Behalf Of

> > > > > ladybugsandbees

> > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 8:08 PM

> > > > > iodine

> > > > > Subject: Re: Iodine testing or not?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > It is not necessary for anyone to test. Dr. Brownstein has tested

his

> > > > > patients and each one is deficient. I think we can assume everyone

needs

> > > > > iodine. Since you had a goiter then you are very deficient.

> > > > >

> > > > > Steph

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Iodine testing or not?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello,

> > > > >

> > > > > I had a goiter (thyroid gland was enlarged 6X its size) and had it

> > > > > removed in 2003. Should I test before taking iodine/iodide or is

the

> > > > > fact of that goiter sufficient would you say?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ted, Sorry, I also wasn't able to find anything specific.Did find a paper, on

the 'second' page of google search. it was questioning something called PT

sample testing.Apperently these are samples supplied to labs, as 'controls';

that is, they are used as a 'quality control' check, both to test the

proficiency of lab techs, and lab procedures.The paper was questioning a number

of aspects of the system.My computer is old and feeble, like its owner.Can't

view PDF documents, for example.

Saw numerous examples of problems with tests, like those you mention.Several

hits on a story where patients died, because of innacurate tests for patients on

Coumadin. Dr.'s increased dose, based on faulty labs, and patients died.

Even without being able to document this CDC reference, (I don't think I dreamed

it) I think there is plenty of material to support the argument that there are a

# of problems with lab results; innacuracy in individual tests, misinterpreting

what test results indicate, incorrest standards for tests, etc.To me, the

problem is giving these tests a 'value' or weight which is totally

innapropriate, when diagnosing a patient, or accessing their responce to

treatment.Treating the test, rather than the patient.

Research the TSH test.That will give you plenty of material.It is partly

responsible for the development of a medicine (Synthroid, etc.) which does

nothing for the patient, but makes for great lab results!Jim

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Even if one is deficient, a baseline test is always a good idea.

That way

> > > > > > one can test later on and compare results to see if or how much

progress is

> > > > > > being made. While the body needs iodine (certainly agreed), I

think it may

> > > > > > be a stretch to say that " everyone " is definitely deficient. We

used to

> > > > > > think that about Vitamin D3 but we are actually seeing some that

are not

> > > > > > deficient. I don't think it wise to assume anything when it

comes to the

> > > > > > human body. I suggest the iodine Profile (urine) test from ZRT.

Just my

> > > > > > opinion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Be Well

> > > > > > Dr.L

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On

Behalf Of

> > > > > > ladybugsandbees

> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 8:08 PM

> > > > > > iodine

> > > > > > Subject: Re: Iodine testing or not?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is not necessary for anyone to test. Dr. Brownstein has

tested his

> > > > > > patients and each one is deficient. I think we can assume

everyone needs

> > > > > > iodine. Since you had a goiter then you are very deficient.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Steph

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Iodine testing or not?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hello,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I had a goiter (thyroid gland was enlarged 6X its size) and had

it

> > > > > > removed in 2003. Should I test before taking iodine/iodide or is

the

> > > > > > fact of that goiter sufficient would you say?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>