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Theresa,

I was overweight when I first started getting achalasia, the second year of my "A" is when I started loosing weight. I was loosing around 3 lbs a week, and eating like crazy to try to get any kind of nourishment but I couldn't get anything down,not soup, not even water! I regurgitated everything that I ate and drank, even my saliva. By the time I had lost 60lbs. I had come up with my own little trigger (warm tea) that opened up my lower esophagus and from then on I was able to get the food into my stomach with the warmth of the tea to relax my esophagus and also by forceing it through by swallowing hard.

Anyway, I gained alot of the weight back again once I was able to get the food down, and I do have to watch what I eat now, especially after having surgery.

Good luck to you on your upcoming surgery! I'll pray it goes well for you.

Sandi in No Ca

-----Original Message-----From: tpilniuk [mailto:tpilniuk@...] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:26 AMachalasia Subject: MOUTH PAINWow,we sure share the same symptoms! I too have this "pain" in my mouth. Mine is more like a tightening of my throat muscles and my tongue too. It feels like my tongue has a "charlie horse" in it and it's being pulled tight without any control on my part. It has a life of it's own!! I have actually massaged my neck where my glands are,trying to get these muscles to relax, and thank god they do eventually. What ever it is it does not last a long time for me. I have tryed to see if there are certain foods that trigger it, but nothing is consistant. Chocolate of any kind seems to play havoc on my E and tongue. I have found only one thing that has helped me consistantly in any situation and that is a glass of white wine. Crazy or what eh!? My throat, tongue, and E relax when I have a small glass. I keep a bottle of wine in the fridge all the time for this purpose. I joke with my friends that I may become an alcoholic if I don't get surgery soon! I might bring a bottle of wine to the hospital just incase the myotomy doesn't work! :) One other thing, I too need to gain some weight. Because I eat every two hours just to keep my energy up, I loose weight literally over night! If for some reason I have a very busy day and I don't have access to my "food', I can drop by 4 pounds in one day! I actually swallow this oil (all the good fish oils- yeck!) and it is 26 grams of fat per teaspoon, so that is keeping some fat on my body. I am wondering how do people keep their weight up if they can't get food down? Stupid me thought everyone was having a problem loosing weight over this. To people who are not losing weight: how do you keep the weight on? I can't figure that one out. The hardest and most serious side effect of this disease for me has been the weight loss. Just wondering...... Talk to you all later Theresa from BC

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> Theresa

> I drink ensure everyday to try to keep my weight on. I am not

losing and not

> gaining..so i'm in good shape right now.

> in Indiana

Hi ,

Thanks for the note; I have tried Ensure and it is too terrible

tasting for me, I can hardly swallow it. I switched to Boost and

generic store brands for food suppliments and that has been OK.

Ensure is also the most expensive brand; Boost is less expensive and

it tastes much better. It also has " Plus calories " , Fibre and extra

Protien varieties. They have been my mainstay for over 8 months now.

I don't know what I would do without them. Infact, I posted this

months ago, but I can't drink them, they fill my E up and everything

floats after that and I feel lost of pressure for hours. What I do

to get them down is freeze them in ice cube trays and spoon them out

at my liesure. It's almost like desert and it taste much better too.

I'm about in the same shape as you, not loosing but not gaining

either. Theresa in BC

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Hi,

There is a procedure called a pulpectomy, rather than a root canal.

I had one of the first about 20 years ago. The dentist drilled to the

abscess, flushed it out but not sure if any antibiotics were involved or

not. My tooth regenerated the nerves and is still with me, doing great, to

this day.

Jean

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>

> ,

>

> Why did you get your root canal tooth pulled? I think I need one, but I'm so

> worried about seeing a mainstream dentist (which is what I'm going to get with

> insurance) and don't want to put the extra money out for a holistic one right

> now.

>

> It's better/safer to lose the tooth than get a root canal?

>

> Thanks,

> Sherry

>

>

>

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I am so struck by the correlation of tooth to thyroid! I had a root canal about

5 yrs ago. I worried about it ever since. I knew nothing of root canals, but had

the gut sense that it was wrong, that the dentist had entombed, rather than

removed, infection! I eventually had it pulled, but not after it had done much

damage. I believe it was the start of my present thyroid cancer and thryoid

antibodies which I believe killed off my last two babies 3 mos in utero.

I have about five molars with fairly large amalgams. Will removing them relieve

the burden on my thyroid or will it possibly release mercury at time of

removal(this dental group advertises " safe " removal but I am not sure..what does

safe removal consist of?).

Until they are all done--can I keep chelating with cilantro,oregano oils and Vit

C? Does that help?

Thanks

Marcy

> > >>>

> > >>> I consume from 30 to 50 grams a day of spirulina and chlorella

combined. Those

> > >>>foods would tend to keep my system fairly clean. I don't expect much

in the way

> > >>>of detox symptoms. Am I right ?

> > >>>

> > >>> Be well,

> > >>>

> > >>

> > >>

> >

>

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I think it's a good idea to get rid of the amalgams -- particularly if you want to have more children. (Mercury is implicated in autism & other developmental issues.) I have seen 2 different biologic dentists in our area, & unhappy to report that "safe removal" can be broadly interpreted.The first doc, in removing amalgam fillings, had her assistant hold a HUGE vacuum right over my mouth. I never smelled any fumes. But she did not supply me with an oxygen mask, as some biologic dentists do. She used a rubber dam, which is supposed to be standard of care in amalgam removal. I didn't stay with her, because I didn't care for the resconstructive work she did in my mouth. (But her precautions did seem adequate.)So I finished my amalgam removal with a different dentist, who was a lot more cavalier about "safe removal." He used the normal, tiny suction device, & held it over the fillings with one hand, while drilling with the other. I smelled fumes. I was not amused. But I lacked the moxie to stop him, once my mouth was already numb & he had already started removing the filling. Didn't seem like I could make an emergency call to the other dentist & explain to her that somebody else had started removing the filling, & I doubted that the drill marks would look like a natural break in the filling. And a traditional dentist would have drilled it out without any precautions.Lots of dentists brag about "safe removal" these days, but you have to ask really specific questions. A rubber damn is required, so you don't swallow any of the bits of filling. Strong suction to trap the fumes & particles. An oxygen mask to give you pure air to breathe during the procedure would probably be preferable, but it seems like some docs don't bother with that. Google & read up -- & good luck!I would recommend some sort of chelation regimen to address any toxins that are released into your system, except that everybody argues about which one to use. A lot of folks recommend Andy Cutler's protocol, but I know people who have trouble with it -- including a woman who paid Cutler as a consultant. Chlorella & modified citrus pectin are recommended by some, & seem least likely to cause major issues, at least according to some folks. (Most of the stuff I have seen recommends pairing cilantro with chlorella, because cilantro stirs up mercury, but chlorella escorts it out of the body; those authorities would say never to use cilantro without chlorella.) I have not seen oregano oil recommended as a chelator before, so I don't know what to say about that. C does help with detox in general; I don't know how helpful it is with mercury in particular. (Always more questions -- sorry.)Brownstein has a Youtube video showing a woman excreting mercury on the iodine protocol, so that could be a factor, too.AnneOn Jan 3, 2011, at 9:43 PM, marcyzram wrote: I am so struck by the correlation of tooth to thyroid! I had a root canal about 5 yrs ago. I worried about it ever since. I knew nothing of root canals, but had the gut sense that it was wrong, that the dentist had entombed, rather than removed, infection! I eventually had it pulled, but not after it had done much damage. I believe it was the start of my present thyroid cancer and thryoid antibodies which I believe killed off my last two babies 3 mos in utero. I have about five molars with fairly large amalgams. Will removing them relieve the burden on my thyroid or will it possibly release mercury at time of removal(this dental group advertises "safe" removal but I am not sure..what does safe removal consist of?). Until they are all done--can I keep chelating with cilantro,oregano oils and Vit C? Does that help? Thanks Marcy > > >>> > > >>> I consume from 30 to 50 grams a day of spirulina and chlorella combined. Those > > >>>foods would tend to keep my system fairly clean. I don't expect much in the way > > >>>of detox symptoms. Am I right ? > > >>> > > >>> Be well, > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >

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I agree with Anne, Marcy. You need to be careful who removes them. My dentist was trained by Hal Huggins who developed the safe removal protocol. My dentist had a special filter that he used during removal, low speed drill, dental dam, oxygen mask for me as well. He did biocompatibility testing on my blood to make sure that the products used in restoration would not cause an immune reaction. He removed one quadrant at a time - removing the highest reactivity first. After each removal I received a very high dose of Liposomal Vit C. After all 4 quadrants and the root canal tooth were removed I started chelation with DMSA, Selenium, Cilantro, Mercurius Viv (homeopathy), and Chlorella. I was taking iodine too and it has shown to push some mercury out (there is a document on www.optimox.com that shows output) but not enough to get me well. As for your root canal tooth begin removed, you need to make sure that the dentist understands cavitations (google it) because they need to clean out the jawbone of the bacteria or you will continue to have an underlying infection. Mine flushed the site with iodine after drilling out the bone.

Steph

Re: Re: Mouth pain

I think it's a good idea to get rid of the amalgams -- particularly if you want to have more children. (Mercury is implicated in autism & other developmental issues.) I have seen 2 different biologic dentists in our area, & unhappy to report that "safe removal" can be broadly interpreted.

The first doc, in removing amalgam fillings, had her assistant hold a HUGE vacuum right over my mouth. I never smelled any fumes. But she did not supply me with an oxygen mask, as some biologic dentists do. She used a rubber dam, which is supposed to be standard of care in amalgam removal. I didn't stay with her, because I didn't care for the resconstructive work she did in my mouth. (But her precautions did seem adequate.)

So I finished my amalgam removal with a different dentist, who was a lot more cavalier about "safe removal." He used the normal, tiny suction device, & held it over the fillings with one hand, while drilling with the other. I smelled fumes. I was not amused. But I lacked the moxie to stop him, once my mouth was already numb & he had already started removing the filling. Didn't seem like I could make an emergency call to the other dentist & explain to her that somebody else had started removing the filling, & I doubted that the drill marks would look like a natural break in the filling. And a traditional dentist would have drilled it out without any precautions.

Lots of dentists brag about "safe removal" these days, but you have to ask really specific questions. A rubber damn is required, so you don't swallow any of the bits of filling. Strong suction to trap the fumes & particles. An oxygen mask to give you pure air to breathe during the procedure would probably be preferable, but it seems like some docs don't bother with that. Google & read up -- & good luck!

I would recommend some sort of chelation regimen to address any toxins that are released into your system, except that everybody argues about which one to use. A lot of folks recommend Andy Cutler's protocol, but I know people who have trouble with it -- including a woman who paid Cutler as a consultant. Chlorella & modified citrus pectin are recommended by some, & seem least likely to cause major issues, at least according to some folks. (Most of the stuff I have seen recommends pairing cilantro with chlorella, because cilantro stirs up mercury, but chlorella escorts it out of the body; those authorities would say never to use cilantro without chlorella.) I have not seen oregano oil recommended as a chelator before, so I don't know what to say about that. C does help with detox in general; I don't know how helpful it is with mercury in particular. (Always more questions -- sorry.)

Brownstein has a Youtube video showing a woman excreting mercury on the iodine protocol, so that could be a factor, too.

Anne

On Jan 3, 2011, at 9:43 PM, marcyzram wrote:

I am so struck by the correlation of tooth to thyroid! I had a root canal about 5 yrs ago. I worried about it ever since. I knew nothing of root canals, but had the gut sense that it was wrong, that the dentist had entombed, rather than removed, infection! I eventually had it pulled, but not after it had done much damage. I believe it was the start of my present thyroid cancer and thryoid antibodies which I believe killed off my last two babies 3 mos in utero.I have about five molars with fairly large amalgams. Will removing them relieve the burden on my thyroid or will it possibly release mercury at time of removal(this dental group advertises "safe" removal but I am not sure..what does safe removal consist of?).Until they are all done--can I keep chelating with cilantro,oregano oils and Vit C? Does that help?ThanksMarcy

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