Guest guest Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Angie-- My acupuncturist/ND has asked me not to do this cleanse. He says that I am so fragile that he is concerned that the harshness would trigger a flare in fibromyalgia. One of the ways I am healing is through avoiding extreme conditions and taking care of myself with kindness and compassion (yes, too many of us don't give ourselves the same compassion we seek to give others), so while I have often considered doing it, I haven't yet because he's been so correct about so many things. I have used sence for cleansing, but using only 1/2 the dose they suggest (got it from Vitacost). I also have IBS tendency, but the sence actually really helped with that ultimately, despite the creation of diarrhea as part of the cleansing. If your only concern is diarrhea, that is temporary as part of the cleanse with the liver/gallbladder flush. My experience with the sence ultimately helping would tend to support the idea that the cleanse ultimately helps cure the IBS symptoms. -- >I see this topic is making the rounds. I am considering doing this flush, >but was wondering if there are any contraindications for it? I noticed in >the instructions that it mentions that it gives you diarrhea and many >people on here who have said they've done it have " sluggish " bowels >beforehand, so diarrhea does sound like a cleanse. I actually have >overactive bowels and I'm wondering if that makes doing the flush a >problem or not? Am I just going to further aggravate myself? > >Thanks, Angie > > " I take supplements because they keep my coat healthy and shiny " ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 , My ND has given me the same advice. I'm going to do it sometime but probably later. Karin > > Angie-- My acupuncturist/ND has asked me not to do this cleanse. He says > that I am so fragile that he is concerned that the harshness would trigger > a flare in fibromyalgia. One of the ways I am healing is through avoiding > extreme conditions and taking care of myself with kindness and compassion > (yes, too many of us don't give ourselves the same compassion we seek to > give others), so while I have often considered doing it, I haven't yet > because he's been so correct about so many things. > > I have used sence for cleansing, but using only 1/2 the dose they > suggest (got it from Vitacost). I also have IBS tendency, but the > sence actually really helped with that ultimately, despite the > creation of diarrhea as part of the cleansing. > > If your only concern is diarrhea, that is temporary as part of the cleanse > with the liver/gallbladder flush. My experience with the sence > ultimately helping would tend to support the idea that the cleanse > ultimately helps cure the IBS symptoms. > > -- > > > >I see this topic is making the rounds. I am considering doing this flush, > >but was wondering if there are any contraindications for it? I noticed in > >the instructions that it mentions that it gives you diarrhea and many > >people on here who have said they've done it have " sluggish " bowels > >beforehand, so diarrhea does sound like a cleanse. I actually have > >overactive bowels and I'm wondering if that makes doing the flush a > >problem or not? Am I just going to further aggravate myself? > > > >Thanks, Angie > > > > " I take supplements because they keep my coat healthy and shiny " > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > --A.J. Muste > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 What if you had your gallbladder removed about 15 years ago? Glowing, grace~As Ghandi taught, the secret to life is to struggle against oppression and to fight for what is needed, but not to be attached to any particular outcome. Therein lies the secret of peace within the chaos."For every failure there's another course of action. When you hit a roadblock, take a detour." - Kay AshThe bowels cleanse due to the high amount of Epsom salts (mg) that you are consuming. It doesn't (or shouldn't) change how they function normally as this is outside induced. Once cleansed you will have a freer flow of bile from the gallbladder and liver.Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Hello Anne, The stones are formed int he liver anyway, they just collect i the gall bladder....they are more accurately called liver stones. The gall bladder does not make stones. Linsey On Jan 25, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Anne Seals wrote: > > > From what I have read, you need the cleanse MORE if you have already lost your gallbladder. Bile moves from the liver to the gallbladder. If your gallbladder was removed, it was because it filled with stones. Once your gallbladder is gone, the stones form in the liver. > > Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Since Angie brings up this question, I have an additional question. Must we do parasite cleanse,bowl,kidney cleanse before the liver flush cleanse? Or we can directly do the liver flush? Thanks! > > I see this topic is making the rounds. I am considering doing this > flush, but was wondering if there are any contraindications for it? I > noticed in the instructions that it mentions that it gives you > diarrhea and many people on here who have said they've done it have > " sluggish " bowels beforehand, so diarrhea does sound like a cleanse. > I actually have overactive bowels and I'm wondering if that makes > doing the flush a problem or not? Am I just going to further > aggravate myself? > > Thanks, Angie > > " I take supplements because they keep my coat healthy and shiny " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 I stand corrected. I should have said they accumulate in the liver.AnneOn Jan 25, 2011, at 5:50 PM, Biochemist wrote: Hello Anne, The stones are formed int he liver anyway, they just collect i the gall bladder....they are more accurately called liver stones. The gall bladder does not make stones. Linsey On Jan 25, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Anne Seals wrote: > > > From what I have read, you need the cleanse MORE if you have already lost your gallbladder. Bile moves from the liver to the gallbladder. If your gallbladder was removed, it was because it filled with stones. Once your gallbladder is gone, the stones form in the liver. > > Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 I have also been looking at this question. Here's my understanding, fo what its worth;People who have had 'bad reactions' to the liver flush were invariably those who didn't to the full protecol, particularly didn't do the parasite cleanse first. The theory, as I understand it, is that the liver flush also kills of the parasites, but it does it all at once. When the parasites die, the release toxins.One of the livers main jobs is to metabolise toxins.So, your dumping a bunch of toxins into your system all at once, at a time when the liver is ill equipped to deal with them. My wife and I are doing the MMS protecol (sp). This is also said to kill off parasites.It does it gradually, and you can adjust it so as to avoid the flu-like symptoms that result from the release of these toxins.Once we have completed this, we are intending to do the Liver flush.MMS just seems an easier, perhaps better way than the whole pumpkin seed, cloves wormwood procedure for parasites. One problem so far; my wife took MY 'dose' of MMS by mistake.I had worked up to 7 drops, she was still at 5.2 days off from work, so far, for 'flu-like symptoms'.Definetly something to take seriously. Have stopped protecol, for now.Decided when she starts again, will keep her on same dose for 2 days, before increasing, just to avoid problems. And, have clearly labeled bottles, so she won't take mine by mistake, again!! (DUH!!) Oh well, Dr.'s are only licensed to 'practice', right? ;-) Jim > > > > I see this topic is making the rounds. I am considering doing this > > flush, but was wondering if there are any contraindications for it? I > > noticed in the instructions that it mentions that it gives you > > diarrhea and many people on here who have said they've done it have > > " sluggish " bowels beforehand, so diarrhea does sound like a cleanse. > > I actually have overactive bowels and I'm wondering if that makes > > doing the flush a problem or not? Am I just going to further > > aggravate myself? > > > > Thanks, Angie > > > > " I take supplements because they keep my coat healthy and shiny " > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 What is the MMS protocol?On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 5:58 AM, dutchdivco <jdutchmanjim@...> wrote: Â I have also been looking at this question. Here's my understanding, fo what its worth;People who have had 'bad reactions' to the liver flush were invariably those who didn't to the full protecol, particularly didn't do the parasite cleanse first. The theory, as I understand it, is that the liver flush also kills of the parasites, but it does it all at once. When the parasites die, the release toxins.One of the livers main jobs is to metabolise toxins.So, your dumping a bunch of toxins into your system all at once, at a time when the liver is ill equipped to deal with them. My wife and I are doing the MMS protecol (sp). This is also said to kill off parasites.It does it gradually, and you can adjust it so as to avoid the flu-like symptoms that result from the release of these toxins.Once we have completed this, we are intending to do the Liver flush.MMS just seems an easier, perhaps better way than the whole pumpkin seed, cloves wormwood procedure for parasites. One problem so far; my wife took MY 'dose' of MMS by mistake.I had worked up to 7 drops, she was still at 5.2 days off from work, so far, for 'flu-like symptoms'.Definetly something to take seriously. Have stopped protecol, for now.Decided when she starts again, will keep her on same dose for 2 days, before increasing, just to avoid problems. And, have clearly labeled bottles, so she won't take mine by mistake, again!! (DUH!!) Oh well, Dr.'s are only licensed to 'practice', right? ;-) Jim > > > > I see this topic is making the rounds. I am considering doing this > > flush, but was wondering if there are any contraindications for it? I > > noticed in the instructions that it mentions that it gives you > > diarrhea and many people on here who have said they've done it have > > " sluggish " bowels beforehand, so diarrhea does sound like a cleanse. > > I actually have overactive bowels and I'm wondering if that makes > > doing the flush a problem or not? Am I just going to further > > aggravate myself? > > > > Thanks, Angie > > > > " I take supplements because they keep my coat healthy and shiny " > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Just google MMS, you'll find it.Your looking for something thats used in water treatment plants, adapted for use to detoxify.MiracleMineralSolution.I got mine from www.mmshealthy4life.com. Jim > > > > > > > > I see this topic is making the rounds. I am considering doing this > > > > flush, but was wondering if there are any contraindications for it? I > > > > noticed in the instructions that it mentions that it gives you > > > > diarrhea and many people on here who have said they've done it have > > > > " sluggish " bowels beforehand, so diarrhea does sound like a cleanse. > > > > I actually have overactive bowels and I'm wondering if that makes > > > > doing the flush a problem or not? Am I just going to further > > > > aggravate myself? > > > > > > > > Thanks, Angie > > > > > > > > " I take supplements because they keep my coat healthy and shiny " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Please move this discussion to the IodineOTGroup, link is at the bottom of this emai. Thank you. Kathleen Re: Contraindications for liver/gallbladder flush Just google MMS, you'll find it.Your looking for something thats used in water treatment plants, adapted for use to detoxify.MiracleMineralSolution.I got mine from www.mmshealthy4life.com. Jim> > > >> > > > I see this topic is making the rounds. I am considering doing this> > > > flush, but was wondering if there are any contraindications for it? I> > > > noticed in the instructions that it mentions that it gives you> > > > diarrhea and many people on here who have said they've done it have> > > > "sluggish" bowels beforehand, so diarrhea does sound like a cleanse.> > > > I actually have overactive bowels and I'm wondering if that makes> > > > doing the flush a problem or not? Am I just going to further> > > > aggravate myself?> > > >> > > > Thanks, Angie> > > >> > > > "I take supplements because they keep my coat healthy and shiny"> > > >> > >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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