Guest guest Posted January 6, 1999 Report Share Posted January 6, 1999 Dear Nick, IV DMPS is only suitable for a urine provocation test, it is not suitable for chelation as it is 3 times more toxic than DMSA & much more expensive. We have treated over 1,000 patients with oral DMSA with few side effects except exacerbation of symptoms due to the heavy metals as they are removed from the body. Hair analysis measures organic mercury in the body & provides information on other heavy metals & nutrition at a very low cost. Again we have had over 1,500 hair analyses done on our patients and find them extremely useful in diagnosis & monitoring of treatment. DMPS sting measures the inorganic mercury. Vitamin C does not remove mercury. IVC will reduce lead. I am interested in your levels before & after the other protocols you have mentioned. Would you please let me have this information. Regards, Noel. Noel 89 Royal Parade P O Box 137 Parkville VIC 3052 Australia Telephone 03 9347 8444 International 613 9347 8444 Fax 03 9347 8850 International 613 9347 850 Email noelc@... Sapere Aude: Dare to be wise. Mercury From: Vilik Rapheles <vilik@...> Nick, One of the first things I discovered when I was on the list was that mercury was probably a big problem of mine. I had had my amalgams out a year ago, which was a complex process. But I had never done chelation. I started investigating. Put mercury-toxicity or anything like that into your search engine, and you'll come up with a wealth of material. Here's a thumbnail sketch of what I've figured out for myself. Standard treatment: IV DMPS or oral DMSA, both drugs. (I personally opted not to do this after several people wrote in who had had bad reactions, and after discovering the potentially problematic side effects.) Diagnosis: An IV of DMPS and a urine test after seems to be the most definative. I personally do not think hair analysis is always accurate. I just put 2 and 2 together and figured it out. Some things are obvious. Alternative treatment: The sodium alginate Tom recommended is a new one for me. What I have discovered so far is chlorella, chilantro, (yes, you read right) selenium, C, and E. Glutatione. Standard Process and Tyler also have products for this. Here's what I've been doing. Chilantro. Buy fresh organic. Make a " sludge " in blender. Take (?) two T or so with meals. Chlorella. Find a " good " one. (?) Take (?) Glutathione. Check CFS Nutrition <http://www.CFSN.com> for a product (and GREAT info) I've been using that combines the three amino acids that make gluatione plus co-factors. Whey...specially processed...is a great source of glutatione, and one was going to be available from Allergy Research by about now. [The (?'s) above indicate...who knows?] If anyone out there has had noteable success with any of the detox methods, drug or alternative, I hope they will write in with details. Peace and health, Vilik ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 1999 Report Share Posted January 6, 1999 Hi Vilik, " One of the first things I discovered when I was on the list was that > mercury was probably a big problem of mine. I had had my amalgams out a > year ago, which was a complex process. " lucky you, complex or not. i'm just realizing now that i can do something about it. i can't yet afford to have them removed. i've known this is a problem for a long time, but only by inference. i started getting the fillings when i was so young that i can't confidently trace any of my probs specifically to that. then, i don't really know the symptoms of mercury toxicity either. But I had never done chelation. I > started investigating. > > Put mercury-toxicity or anything like that into your search engine, and > you'll come up with a wealth of material. > > Here's a thumbnail sketch of what I've figured out for myself. > > Standard treatment: IV DMPS or oral DMSA, both drugs. (I personally > opted not to do this after several people wrote in who had had bad > reactions, and after discovering the potentially problematic side effects.) > > Diagnosis: An IV of DMPS are you saying IV DMPS is both a treatment and a diagnostic method? and that IV DMPS and a urine test is the most definitive, but since the reported side-effects from DMPS, why bother and just do the oral chelating, which isn't going to hurt me if i don't need it and will help me if i do? and a urine test after seems to be the most > definative. I personally do not think hair analysis is always accurate. I > just put 2 and 2 together and figured it out. Some things are obvious. > > Alternative treatment: The sodium alginate Tom recommended is a new one > for me. What I have discovered so far is chlorella, chilantro, (yes, you > read right) i've always spelt what i think you're saying as " cilantro " . anyways, it's the very tasty wonderful stuff the put right beside the the parsley and italian parsley in the produce section at the grocery store. it looks like the italian parsley--which is boring, bland--so i taste a leaf to make sure i have that unmistakable taste i know i'll never get bored of. it's also used in mexican cooking--is that it? chlorella i know. selenium, C, and E. Glutatione. Standard Process and Tyler also > have products for this. > > Here's what I've been doing. > > Chilantro. Buy fresh organic. Make a " sludge " in blender. Take (?) two T > or so with meals. wow! that'll have some taste to it. 'should help the placebo aspect too. > > Chlorella. Find a " good " one. (?) Take (?) i guess there are " bad " ones. ? i'll grill them at the store. > > Glutathione. Check CFS Nutrition <http://www.CFSN.com> for a product > (and GREAT info) I've been using that combines the three amino acids that > make gluatione plus co-factors. > > Whey...specially processed...is a great source of glutatione, and one > was going to be available from Allergy Research by about now. > > [The (?'s) above indicate...who knows?] > > If anyone out there has had noteable success with any of the detox > methods, drug or alternative, I hope they will write in with details. > > Peace and health, > > Vilik thanks sooo, Vilik. yes! Peace And Health--can't have one without the other! will look up that site, and i'll search too. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 1999 Report Share Posted January 6, 1999 Dear Nick, > > IV DMPS is only suitable for a urine provocation test, it is not suitable > for chelation as it is 3 times more toxic than DMSA & much more expensive. > > We have treated over 1,000 patients with oral DMSA with few side effects > except exacerbation of symptoms due to the heavy metals as they are removed > from the body. maybe this is what was behind the reports Vilik heard. ? > > Hair analysis measures organic mercury in the body & provides information on > other heavy metals & nutrition at a very low cost. > > Again we have had over 1,500 hair analyses done on our patients and find > them extremely useful in diagnosis & monitoring of treatment. > > DMPS sting measures the inorganic mercury. this is somehow different and less toxic than IV DMPS? > > Vitamin C does not remove mercury. IVC will reduce lead. > > I am interested in your levels before & after the other protocols you have > mentioned. Would you please let me have this information. sure. i imagine a hair analysis is something a naturopath would do, or do i go to an allopath? thank you, Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 1999 Report Share Posted January 6, 1999 Dear Nick, > > IV DMPS is only suitable for a urine provocation test, it is not suitable > for chelation as it is 3 times more toxic than DMSA & much more expensive. > > We have treated over 1,000 patients with oral DMSA with few side effects > except exacerbation of symptoms due to the heavy metals as they are removed > from the body. maybe this is what was behind the reports Vilik heard. ? > > Hair analysis measures organic mercury in the body & provides information on > other heavy metals & nutrition at a very low cost. > > Again we have had over 1,500 hair analyses done on our patients and find > them extremely useful in diagnosis & monitoring of treatment. > > DMPS sting measures the inorganic mercury. this is somehow different and less toxic than IV DMPS? > > Vitamin C does not remove mercury. IVC will reduce lead. > > I am interested in your levels before & after the other protocols you have > mentioned. Would you please let me have this information. sure. i imagine a hair analysis is something a naturopath would do, or do i go to an allopath? thank you, Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 1999 Report Share Posted January 6, 1999 I'm also from Canada. I was wondering what " store " you are dealing with. Is it a chain " Sangsters " or a smaller one. I have bought their product called Mega Greens plus chlorophyll and digestive enzymes. It has a lot of stuff in it. Juice blend from Alfalfa, barley, red beet, and wheat. Blue-green and Sea algae : chlorella - cracked cell, Dulse, spirulina. Apple fiber pectin, and brown rice bran. A lot of other herbal extracts and powders, probiotics, digestive enzymes, plus others. What I want to know is do you know if this company's products are hi quality or should I be looking at some other brand? Glenda Re: Mercury >From: Dimitri <nicholas108@...> > > >Hi Vilik, > > " One of the first things I discovered when I was on the list was that >> mercury was probably a big problem of mine. I had had my amalgams >out a >> year ago, which was a complex process. " > >lucky you, complex or not. i'm just realizing now that i can do >something about it. i can't yet afford to have them removed. i've >known this is a problem for a long time, but only by inference. i >started getting the fillings when i was so young that i can't >confidently trace any of my probs specifically to that. then, i don't >really know the symptoms of mercury toxicity either. > > But I had never done chelation. I >> started investigating. >> >> Put mercury-toxicity or anything like that into your search >engine, and >> you'll come up with a wealth of material. >> >> Here's a thumbnail sketch of what I've figured out for myself. >> >> Standard treatment: IV DMPS or oral DMSA, both drugs. (I personally >> opted not to do this after several people wrote in who had had bad >> reactions, and after discovering the potentially problematic side >effects.) >> >> Diagnosis: An IV of DMPS > >are you saying IV DMPS is both a treatment and a diagnostic method? >and that IV DMPS and a urine test is the most definitive, but since >the reported side-effects from DMPS, why bother and just do the oral >chelating, which isn't going to hurt me if i don't need it and will >help me if i do? > > and a urine test after seems to be the most >> definative. I personally do not think hair analysis is always >accurate. I >> just put 2 and 2 together and figured it out. Some things are obvious. >> >> Alternative treatment: The sodium alginate Tom recommended is a >new one >> for me. What I have discovered so far is chlorella, chilantro, (yes, >you >> read right) > >i've always spelt what i think you're saying as " cilantro " . anyways, >it's the very tasty wonderful stuff the put right beside the the >parsley and italian parsley in the produce section at the grocery >store. it looks like the italian parsley--which is boring, bland--so i >taste a leaf to make sure i have that unmistakable taste i know i'll >never get bored of. it's also used in mexican cooking--is that it? >chlorella i know. > > selenium, C, and E. Glutatione. Standard Process and Tyler also >> have products for this. >> >> Here's what I've been doing. >> >> Chilantro. Buy fresh organic. Make a " sludge " in blender. Take >(?) two T >> or so with meals. > >wow! that'll have some taste to it. 'should help the placebo aspect too. >> >> Chlorella. Find a " good " one. (?) Take (?) > >i guess there are " bad " ones. ? i'll grill them at the store. >> >> Glutathione. Check CFS Nutrition <http://www.CFSN.com> for a >product >> (and GREAT info) I've been using that combines the three amino acids >that >> make gluatione plus co-factors. >> >> Whey...specially processed...is a great source of glutatione, and >one >> was going to be available from Allergy Research by about now. >> >> [The (?'s) above indicate...who knows?] >> >> If anyone out there has had noteable success with any of the detox >> methods, drug or alternative, I hope they will write in with details. >> >> Peace and health, >> >> Vilik > >thanks sooo, Vilik. yes! Peace And Health--can't have one without the >other! will look up that site, and i'll search too. > >Nick >---------------------------------------------------------------- -------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 1999 Report Share Posted August 27, 1999 wrote: >>chenney and other cfids docs talk about amalgams and mercury poisoning. i have never, ever had a single cavity and never even thought of it until today. now i thoroughly understand what i used to think was hype. mercury does kill. i have my poor dad to prove it. mayra<< The book It's All In Your Head by Dr. Hal Huggins is the most convincing thing I've read so far on the toxic effects of mercury amalgams. It's worth reading - he talks about how mercury amalgams have been banned in many, many other countries, but American dentists continue to use them, even though there is a lot of concrete evidence about the mercury leeching out and it's a known neurotoxin. BUT from the standpoint of Chiari Malformation, extended dental work (i.e. removing amalgams) could be one of the worst possible things to do if you happen to have Chiari as well as CFIDS, because it requires hyperextending the neck for a long period of time. I used to have 11 mercury amalgam fillings - I had them all removed and replaced a few years ago. But I severely backslid after that, and now - as I explore the possibility that I could have Chiari - I wonder if it's because of that. Just a thought to anyone considering filling removal. Peggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2000 Report Share Posted February 28, 2000 Hi List, I need some good articles on how mercury adversely affects ones immune system. Would anyone mind sending me some privately? Thanks so much, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2000 Report Share Posted February 28, 2000 Hi , Here is a link to the Canadian Mercury Relief site they will have info for you, http://www.talkinternational.com/ Sherri-Lee Re: Mercury > From: jsuenick@... > > Hi List, > I need some good articles on how mercury adversely affects ones immune > system. Would anyone mind sending me some privately? > > Thanks so much, > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get a FREE $15 BN.com gift certificate when you join carclub.com. > As a member, you can save up to $550 a year if you own a car, and > thousands more when you're buying one. > 1/1942/1/_/489317/_/951750844/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2000 Report Share Posted February 29, 2000 Many thanks to everyone who responded to my request for information. Sherri-lee, you were the only one I could not thank privately. my message was returned. So Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2000 Report Share Posted September 14, 2000 Hi, please send me info as well on how to get the hair analysis for the mercury. I just asked our pediatrician about doing this for Noah yesterday. Just checked the docs records and Noah was gaining weight on a steady basis until he received the hep B shot at 7 months, then he dropped a bit, gained a little, but in all, has gained about 2 pounds in one year. Not good. The doc didn't know how to go about doing the mercury test, said he would make some calls and let me know tomorrow what he came up with. He said there is no information in his medical journals that say mercury is harmful to children via the vaccines. Arggh. >From: Sheri Nakken <snakken@...> >Reply-Vaccinationsegroups >Vaccinationsegroups >Subject: Mercury >Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:11:58 -0700 > > > >Sheri, > > I totally agree with you, they are important issues, but should not be > >discussed in this group, we should try to keep this about vaccine or >related > >health issues. > > I will have to talk my physician into doing a hair test for Mercury. I >feel > >so strong about making sure my health is good. My other tests all came >back > >normal too, so that was a good thing. > >I doubt that your physician will know how to do one or think they are of >use. I don't know where my hair analysis info is but will send your email >to Kreider who is a hep b damaged RN. Anyone else have the info >handy?? > > > Where was the NVIC conference at? I wish I could attend them, but > >truthfully, can't because of time and money. I don't think my kids would >be > >happy being dragged to them either. And without a sitter, that would be > >impossible to do. > >It was in Arlington VA across river from DC and they had babysitting. >It would have been incredible for you to meet all the other parents as well >as researchers and activists. > >What did you have the tests for other than in general? Bloodtests are VERY >useless in the mercury issue. >-------------------------------------------------------- >Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA >Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm >ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE >DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. >Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin >International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers > Education, Homeopathic Education >KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA >CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2000 Report Share Posted September 14, 2000 Sheri, I usually don't know about the conferences, but I will have to start keeping my eyes open for them. I would love to meet and speak with more parents of vaccine damaged children or parents like myself who lost a child from a vaccine. Actually, when I went in to my physician's office, I went in for a physical and a PAP, after hearing my lungs (I have asthma), they had me blow into a machine that tests the pressure I blow out, and it wasn't good, so they took x-rays of my lungs, they said it was ok, then ran an EKG on my heart to make sure my asthma wasn't effecting it in any way. They said that was normal. Then they did blood work, not sure what all for, about 4 or 5 tubes I think they took. Mercury was one since I requested it. I was actually surprised at how much time my physician spent with me and discussed things. First time I have seen him in 6 years or more. Sometimes I wonder if all my health related problems are due to me being vaccinated as a child. I know there is no way to prove it, but it seems like those who were unvaxed are much healthier adults. My sister and I both have many health related problems, and both fully vaxed as kids. So far all of our unvaxed kids have no problems at all. Although my sister just had a baby, took her newborn son to a pediatrician, told him she refused to vaccinate her son, he threatened her and said that if at some time he chooses to vaccinate, he will do so without her consent. I gave her an exemption affidavit, told her if she can not switch physician's, to sign it and have them put it in her sons file. And if he does take it upon himself to vaccinate my nephew, he can be charged with assault with a deadly weapon. I am not sure why he threatened her, but I told her to stand her ground and let him know that she will not tolerate that from him or anyone else. In Michigan we have all 3 exemptions, and they can not force us to vaccinate if we don't want too! Anyhow, just thought I would share that with you. It ticks me off to know that we are living in America, a country that is suppose to be free and we are suppose to have the right to choose. LOL! Sometimes I wonder! Take care! On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:11:58 -0700, Vaccinationsegroups wrote: > > >Sheri, > > I totally agree with you, they are important issues, but should not be > >discussed in this group, we should try to keep this about vaccine or related > >health issues. > > I will have to talk my physician into doing a hair test for Mercury. I feel > >so strong about making sure my health is good. My other tests all came back > >normal too, so that was a good thing. > > I doubt that your physician will know how to do one or think they are of > use. I don't know where my hair analysis info is but will send your email > to Kreider who is a hep b damaged RN. Anyone else have the info handy?? > > > Where was the NVIC conference at? I wish I could attend them, but > >truthfully, can't because of time and money. I don't think my kids would be > >happy being dragged to them either. And without a sitter, that would be > >impossible to do. > > It was in Arlington VA across river from DC and they had babysitting. > It would have been incredible for you to meet all the other parents as well > as researchers and activists. > > What did you have the tests for other than in general? Bloodtests are VERY > useless in the mercury issue. > -------------------------------------------------------- > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE > DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. > Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin > International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers > Education, Homeopathic Education > KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA > CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 >Sheri, > I usually don't know about the conferences, but I will have to start >keeping my eyes open for them. I would love to meet and speak with more >parents of vaccine damaged children or parents like myself who lost a child >from a vaccine. > You would have been moved greatly by this conference and meeting everyone. > Actually, when I went in to my physician's office, I went in for a physical >and a PAP, I don't choose to do these things just for the reasons you indicated - they really want to find something wrong! after hearing my lungs (I have asthma), they had me blow into a >machine that tests the pressure I blow out, and it wasn't good, so they took >x-rays of my lungs, they said it was ok, then ran an EKG on my heart to make >sure my asthma wasn't effecting it in any way. They said that was normal. >Then they did blood work, not sure what all for, about 4 or 5 tubes I think >they took. Mercury was one since I requested it. I was actually surprised at >how much time my physician spent with me and discussed things. First time I >have seen him in 6 years or more. That's great - but regular physicians really have no idea about the mercury issue and accurate tests and the subtleties Sometimes I wonder if all my health >related problems are due to me being vaccinated as a child. I know there is >no way to prove it, but it seems like those who were unvaxed are much >healthier adults. My sister and I both have many health related problems, >and both fully vaxed as kids. So far all of our unvaxed kids have no >problems at all. Very probable. I really encourage you to see a homeopath as I suggested in another post above. And the detox for all of us would be great. > > Although my sister just had a baby, took her newborn son to a pediatrician, >told him she refused to vaccinate her son, he threatened her and said that >if at some time he chooses to vaccinate, he will do so without her consent. He should be reported and IN NO WAY would I ever return to that person. >I gave her an exemption affidavit, told her if she can not switch >physician's, to sign it and have them put it in her sons file. And if he >does take it upon himself to vaccinate my nephew, he can be charged with >assault with a deadly weapon. After he does it there won't be much she can do and she will have to live with the results. I would be out of there in a heartbeat. The gall. > Anyhow, just thought I would share that with you. It ticks me off to know >that we are living in America, a country that is suppose to be free and we >are suppose to have the right to choose. LOL! Sometimes I wonder! Most of the time I wonder. Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 >Hi, please send me info as well on how to get the hair analysis for the >mercury. I just asked our pediatrician about doing this for Noah yesterday Gotta find someone else, not peds. > Just checked the docs records and Noah was gaining weight on a steady >basis until he received the hep B shot at 7 months, then he dropped a bit, >gained a little, but in all, has gained about 2 pounds in one year. Not >good. The doc didn't know how to go about doing the mercury test, said he >would make some calls and let me know tomorrow what he came up with. He >said there is no information in his medical journals that say mercury is >harmful to children via the vaccines. Show him the math. Give him a chemistry book. Its bad in fish and the air and the environment but perfectly OK in vaccines and dental fillings. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 Sheri, Do you know whether Homeopaths accept medical insurance, or if medical insurance covers homeopaths? I have heard people claim that their insurance company will not cover them using a homeopath, but if I remember correctly, most (if not all) homeopaths are licensed physicians or pharmacists. At least of last homeopath was a pharmacist, and his wife was an RN, and they would speak to us free of charge about ways to help build our children's immune systems. I truly loved them! They were always there for us if we ever had questions, so I would love to find one near our new home now and do what you said, have them treat me! And my children. I also told my sister the same thing, I told her she is a dang fool if she takes her baby back to that quack that calls himself a pediatrician. I also told her to report him to the CIS (file an allegation with the state), she said she would do so. Anyhow, thanks for your wonderful advice! I have been so busy with my son, took him to the dentist today. Scarry!! His first dentist assaulted him, so I was pleased with how these new dentists treated him. They made him feel so special. He has to have some work done, and they plan on doing it the second week of October. They are going to have me get a prescription for some medicine that makes him what they call " Loopy " , then they will give him happy gas and sedate him. He has two teeth that need to be extracted. And some other work. So I have been asking many questions about all that. They quoted me a price for silver fillings, but I told them I won't allow them to use silver, only the white ones. So tomorrow I am calling back and telling them to make note of it and find out the price difference. Got to run! Thanks again!! On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 06:57:04 -0700, Vaccinationsegroups wrote: > > >Sheri, > > I usually don't know about the conferences, but I will have to start > >keeping my eyes open for them. I would love to meet and speak with more > >parents of vaccine damaged children or parents like myself who lost a child > >from a vaccine. > > > > You would have been moved greatly by this conference and meeting everyone. > > > Actually, when I went in to my physician's office, I went in for a physical > >and a PAP, > > I don't choose to do these things just for the reasons you indicated - > they really want to find something wrong! > > after hearing my lungs (I have asthma), they had me blow into a > >machine that tests the pressure I blow out, and it wasn't good, so they took > >x-rays of my lungs, they said it was ok, then ran an EKG on my heart to make > >sure my asthma wasn't effecting it in any way. They said that was normal. > >Then they did blood work, not sure what all for, about 4 or 5 tubes I think > >they took. Mercury was one since I requested it. I was actually surprised at > >how much time my physician spent with me and discussed things. First time I > >have seen him in 6 years or more. > > That's great - but regular physicians really have no idea about the mercury > issue and accurate tests and the subtleties > > Sometimes I wonder if all my health > >related problems are due to me being vaccinated as a child. I know there is > >no way to prove it, but it seems like those who were unvaxed are much > >healthier adults. My sister and I both have many health related problems, > >and both fully vaxed as kids. So far all of our unvaxed kids have no > >problems at all. > > Very probable. I really encourage you to see a homeopath as I suggested in > another post above. And the detox for all of us would be great. > > > > Although my sister just had a baby, took her newborn son to a pediatrician, > >told him she refused to vaccinate her son, he threatened her and said that > >if at some time he chooses to vaccinate, he will do so without her consent. > > He should be reported and IN NO WAY would I ever return to that person. > > >I gave her an exemption affidavit, told her if she can not switch > >physician's, to sign it and have them put it in her sons file. And if he > >does take it upon himself to vaccinate my nephew, he can be charged with > >assault with a deadly weapon. > > After he does it there won't be much she can do and she will have to live > with the results. I would be out of there in a heartbeat. The gall. > > > Anyhow, just thought I would share that with you. It ticks me off to know > >that we are living in America, a country that is suppose to be free and we > >are suppose to have the right to choose. LOL! Sometimes I wonder! > > Most of the time I wonder. > Sheri > -------------------------------------------------------- > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE > DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. > Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin > International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers > Education, Homeopathic Education > KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA > CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 >Sheri, > Do you know whether Homeopaths accept medical insurance, or if medical >insurance covers homeopaths? Sometimes if a homeopath is an MD, but the BEST homeopath is usually NOT an MD. (hard for them to truly make the transition to practicing homeopathically.) I have heard people claim that their insurance >company will not cover them using a homeopath, but if I remember correctly, >most (if not all) homeopaths are licensed physicians or pharmacists. The best homeopaths are none of the above and so are rarely covered but they aren't that expensive. Anywhere from $100 - $500 for first visit which is 2 hours long or so and then $50-100 for visits after that (usually not more than every month) and remedies only $5 or so. You just have to budget for it. At >least of last homeopath was a pharmacist, and his wife was an RN, and they >would speak to us free of charge about ways to help build our children's >immune systems. I truly loved them! They were always there for us if we ever >had questions, so I would love to find one near our new home now and do what >you said, have them treat me! And my children. > I also told my sister the same thing, I told her she is a dang fool if she >takes her baby back to that quack that calls himself a pediatrician. I also >told her to report him to the CIS (file an allegation with the state), she >said she would do so. > Anyhow, thanks for your wonderful advice! I have been so busy with my son, >took him to the dentist today. Scarry!! His first dentist assaulted him, so >I was pleased with how these new dentists treated him. They made him feel so >special. He has to have some work done, and they plan on doing it the second >week of October. They are going to have me get a prescription for some >medicine that makes him what they call " Loopy " , then they will give him >happy gas and sedate him. He has two teeth that need to be extracted. And >some other work. So I have been asking many questions about all that. They >quoted me a price for silver fillings, but I told them I won't allow them to >use silver, only the white ones. So tomorrow I am calling back and telling >them to make note of it and find out the price difference. Not all dentists know how to use composites for biting surfaces. You may need to find a special dentist. It takes special training. > Got to run! Thanks again!! Let me know if you have anymore questions. Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2000 Report Share Posted September 16, 2000 I don't know if anyone will find this funny but with the conversation about fillings it made me think of the time I had to have fillings in college. I had to have 3, 1 serious filling and 2 not so serious. They were my first cavities though so I had the choice to choose what type of fillings to have. I didn't even know that the silver fillings were dangerous as I was naive to many things in college and had no idea I would later become a mother who is a natural parent! I choose the white fillings for the silliest reason: in case I would ever become the actress that I had wanted to be. I was concerned that if I had to scream on film, I didn't want my mouth marked full of silver fillings! Isn't it strange that my mouth in now mercury free because of my silly notion of wanting to become a famous actress. Needless to say, I never became that actress and never had to scream for the camera. Instead I have become a mother of a beautiful daugher, 8 months and unvaccinated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2000 Report Share Posted November 2, 2000 Those mercury thermometers are dangerous only if they break. However, if they break, you have to have special tools to clean it up and it cannot be disposed of down the drain or in regular waste. You need to call a local HASMET or chemical disposal company. Likely, your natural gas or electricity provider could direct you in the right direction. (Take this from someone who broke a few of those thermometers in school.) Adrienne At 02:13 PM 11/2/2000 -0500, you wrote: >In light of the recent mercury posts, I'm beginning to wonder how >dangerous the old school mercury thermometers were (are.) Because of our > " natural " approach to health care, my family tends not to worry too much >about the occasional fever - just the immune system WORKING - but we got >a thermometer in Isabel's birth kit and it looks a lot like the ones used >on me as a child (which were definitely mercury.) How can I be certain >if there's mercury in it? How should I then dispose of it safely? What >do you mercury-free folks use to take a temperature? Sorry for all the >questions; though it is nice knowing I have a good place to ask them! >Namaste, Gretchen >________________________________________________________________ >YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! >Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! >Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2000 Report Share Posted November 3, 2000 I mad as all heck. I've had serious health problems over the years. Every single tooth in my head was filled with amalgam at the age of 14 and I've had every single symptom on the list. I can remember playing with "quick silver" in a plastic bag as a teenager. I believe it was mercury. I know this could not have been a good thing. I kept it for weeks playing with it. Annette Good parents make informed decisions concerning their children's health, education and well being. http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm -----Original Message-----From: Gretchen L [mailto:brofu@...]In light of the recent mercury posts, I'm beginning to wonder howdangerous the old school mercury thermometers were (are.) Because of our"natural" approach to health care, my family tends not to worry too muchabout the occasional fever - just the immune system WORKING - but we gota thermometer in Isabel's birth kit and it looks a lot like the ones usedon me as a child (which were definitely mercury.) How can I be certainif there's mercury in it? How should I then dispose of it safely? Whatdo you mercury-free folks use to take a temperature? Sorry for all thequestions; though it is nice knowing I have a good place to ask them! Namaste, Gretchen________________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2000 Report Share Posted November 16, 2000 Mercury From: " Dental Truth " <dentaltruth@...> Subject: New EPA Guidelines for Mercury at Federal Facilities Mercury: A Guide for Federal Facilities Mercury contamination is a serious environmental and public health problem that has recently received a great deal of attention. Mercury is a toxic and persistent pollutant. It is responsible for health advisories limiting consumption of fish in 40 states, including all of the states in New England. Moreover, a recent study suggested that the mercury in marine environments is increasing at a rate of approximately 4.8 percent annually. A recent EPA national study found that the areas of the U.S. with the largest amounts of mercury deposition from human sources are New England, the Great Lakes states, the Ohio River Valley, and Florida. Political interest in addressing mercury in New England has been growing during the past few years. In June 1998, the New England Governors and Eastern Canadian Premiers Environment Committee (NEG/ECP) adopted a Mercury Action Plan and appointed a Task Force to rank and implement more than 40 specific recommendations to reduce the emissions of mercury from human sources in the environment. Some of these recommendations specifically address reduction of mercury products by different industries and sectors, including Federal Facilities. Mercury: What Is It? Mercury is both a naturally occurring element and an added component of many products. It can exist in a gaseous, liquid, or solid form. Possessing the properties of both a liquid and a metal, mercury is used extensively in products -- to conduct electricity, measure temperature and pressure, and function as a biocide or catalyst. The types of products include thermometers, electrical switches, fluorescent lamps, and measuring devices. Mercury's ability to readily change chemical states allows it to constantly circulate in air, water and soil. As an element, mercury cannot be destroyed by combustion or through biological degradation. Mercury is volatile and can be transported over long distances before deposition on land or in water. This poses a significant risk for New England. Once deposited into water bodies, either directly from water discharge, air deposition, or indirectly as runoff, mercury enters the food chain. Aquatic organisms can readily absorb it. Mercury then bioaccumulates in the fish that feed on the micro-organisms and in the fish-eating mammals and other wildlife. This is an important public health and environmental concern. Health Impacts: Why Are We Concerned?Mercury's primary health effects are neurological if inhaled, ingested or absorbed through the skin. It can also cause serious damage to the kidneys. Children and pregnant women who eat mercury contaminated fish are particularly susceptible to its toxic effects. Methyl mercury, a highly toxic form, easily passes the placental barrier where it can inflict irreversible damage to the developing fetal brain and neurological system. Nursing mothers can also pass it along through their breast milk. People can be exposed to other dangerous forms of mercury in their homes, workplaces, and school science laboratories. Federal Facilities are no exception. Exposures can occur following the breakage and improper cleanup of mercury-containing products, the inhalation of fumes, or as the result of children playing with improperly stored mercury. There are well-documented outbreaks of mercury- related health problems. These include a major incident in Minimata Bay in Japan during the 1950s where 628 people were poisoned from a mercury spill into the harbor that contaminated fish. The effected population in Minamata experienced neurological and mental disorders and even death. In 1971, another incident occurred in Iraq where mercury-contaminated grain was used to make bread. Documented cases of neurological impairment were found in this population. These well-documented cases have graphically revealed the potential neurological and reproductive effects of mercury exposure to both adults and children. Mercury in the Environment: Where Does it Come From?Human activity has increased mercury deposition three-fold since the 1850s. The vast majority of mercury emissions are produced from the combustion of waste or fuel containing small amounts of mercury (particularly coal). In the Northeast, municipal waste incinerators, coal and oil-fired electricity generators, medical waste incinerators, and sewage sludge incineration are the leading sources of mercury pollution. When mercury-bearing products are poured down the drain or thrown into the trash, mercury enters the waste disposal cycle. Since a substantial amount of non-recycled trash in New England is combusted, mercury from this source enters the air and is deposited on land and in water. When poured down the drain, mercury concentrates in the wastewater treatment sludge. This sludge is either applied to the land or combusted, and the remainder is discharged as effluent. Sources of MercuryMercury is added to a wide range of products. The following list provides a guide to some of the most common uses and/or sources: Instruments: Barometers, thermometers, hydrometers, blood pressure devices Medical/Dental Uses: Dental amalgam, pharmaceuticals, disinfectants, diagnostic reagents Products: Chlorine, caustic soda, sodium hydroxide, fungicides/pesticides, preservatives, pigments Laboratories: Reagents, preservatives, electroanalysis, slide preparation Electrical Switches: Thermostats, light switches, industrial switches Lamps: Fluorescent, high pressure sodium, metal halide Pivots: Lighthouses, wastewater treatment plant tracking filter arm Fuel Combustion: Coal, oil, natural gas Federal Facilities RoleFederal Facilities can take an active role in helping to reduce mercury in the environment. FFs should identify where mercury can be found in their operations and ensure that mercury-containing products are disposed of safely and appropriately. Furthermore, FFs can help by only purchasing necessary mercury-added products. The cost of cleaning up a mercury spill at a FF can be thousands of dollars. Removing non-essential uses of mercury and ensuring that mercury-containing products are safely disposed of can save FFs from the potential liability of a costly spill. A first step is to conduct an inventory of the Facility in order to identify where mercury-containing products are found. A second step is establishing priorities for reducing the sources of mercury and exploring possible substitute products and processes. A third and final step would be to evaluate the efficacy of various substitutes and investigate their implementation. If there are no substitute products available, the Facility could also consider establishing a recycling program for mercury- containing products. There are several Federal and State agencies in New England that will help FFs with the steps outlined above. The New England states and EPA Region I-New England are seeking a few Federal Facilities to volunteer and work with State and Federal assistance providers to develop case studies. This would help with improving the understanding of the mercury sources and possible substitutes at Federal Facilities in the Region. EPA and the states would use the case studies to showcase what Facilities can do to lower their mercury uses, emissions, and discharges. If your FF is interested in volunteering for this program, contact the EPA or NEWMOA. Steps to successfully reduce mercury in a Federal Facility: Inventory all mercury products Eliminate non-essential uses of mercury Establish priorities for reducing sources of mercury Explore substitutes for mercury-bearing products Implement Federal Facility mercury reduction plan Partners for ChangeUnder EPA's Partners for Change (PFC) program, the Agency is demonstrating that voluntary goals and commitments that go beyond regulatory compliance can achieve real environmental results in a timely and cost-effective way. The PFC Program encourages responsible and pro-active environmental practices. These include a comprehensive inventory of mercury-containing products, good housekeeping and management of mercury and other toxic products, proper handling and waste management of mercury products, and the selection of alternatives to mercury-free products. The program ensures that Federal Facilities which achieve their goals will be recognized in their community for their efforts. Useful InformationReports: Mercury Study Report to Congress - EPA -425/R-97-003 -010 December 1997 http://www.epa.gov/oar/mercury.html Northeast States and Eastern Canadian Provinces Mercury Study: A Framework for Action -- NESCAUM, NEWMOA, NEIWPCC, EMAN February 1998 (to order call NESCAUM at (617) 367-8540) Contacts: US EPA - New England: Jeri Weiss, Regional Mercury Lead (617) 918-1568, email: weiss.jeri@... Anne Fenn, Federal Facilities Program Manager (617) 918-1805, email: fenn.anne@... Peggy Bagnoli, Partners for Change (617) 918-1828, email: bagnoli.peggy@... NEWMOA: Terri Goldberg, Deputy Director (617) 367-8558 x302, email: neppr@... State Mercury Leads: CT DEP, Lois Hager (860) 424-3022, email: lois.hager@... ME DEP, Ladner (207) 207-287-7853, email: stacy.ladner@... MA DEP, Judy Shope (617) 292-5597, email: judy.shope@... NH DES, Vince Perelli (603) 271-2902, email: v_per RI DEM, Ron Gagnon (401) 222-6822, email: gagnon@... VT DEC, Environmental Assistance Division (802) 241-3589 FDA VENDETTA > An Interview with > Elias, author of > The Burzynski Breakthrough > (Nov. 15) The Burzynski Breakthrough is veteran reporter Tom Elias' second > book since he co-authored The Simpson Trial in Black and White. Elias first > became involved with the story of Houston physician Stanislaw Burzynski, > M.D., Ph.D., when Elias was approached by a neighbor who believes her life > was saved by Burzynski's controversial " antineoplastons " cancer treatment. > The book, published in August 2000 and extensively revised from an earlier > edition, details how the medicine works by manipulating genetic switches > that can stop or start a tumor. It explores why Burzynski became the target > for an FDA vendetta, and why a medicine that seems to be effective for a > wide range of cancers has been suppressed for more than a decade. (more at > http://naturalhealthline.com ) > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2001 Report Share Posted March 29, 2001 Hi Luck, Look into DMPS protocols bigtime before using it--many people on the Metals list (high volume) have had difficulties with it. Your idea about elemental nutrition (precursors, etc.) is a good one for my diabetic daughter. Kids with problems remind me of being on a whirling piece of playground equipment--a lot of nutrition is flying by them and you have to go back to being extremely basic and try to build from there. I may get some things from Jeff at cfsn.com for her. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2001 Report Share Posted April 2, 2001 There is a State Senate investigation of some sort going on now in Pennsylvania looking into Hg and Alzheimers. I have not saved the posts, but it ppl are mailing to Arlen Spector's office. For specific information, ppl can email Freya Koss, who is very active in DAMS (Dental Amlagam Safety something?) in the PA area at FreKoss@... and she can give you links. Keep in mind she isn't that well, but a great advocate in the use of her energies. On DMPS tests, lots argue that they are not safe, with or without amalgams still in - and on top of that readings can really vary as to what is available in the body at the time. I think most would no longer give test with amalgams in mouth. Steve, even though any Hg is too much, I have a couple of friends that see the same doctor as I do - their readings are in the upper 100 levels. I guess that was to give you some hope? I have seen levels like 50 drop pretty quickly...just not sure the best means (they did DMPS but did not have CFS, " just " amalgam poisoning, brain fog, etc) > Ann, > > I wasn't aware of the mercury alzheimers link. Scary. I have a mouthful of > old fillings that need replacing. I am hoping I can get them replaced very > gradually and prevent additional poisoning. I had a DMPS test done and it > came back at 50 with the normal range being 0-3. Steve B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2001 Report Share Posted April 2, 2001 Has anyone used cilantro tincture as a way of removing mercury from the body? Has anyone had any measurable improvement in their mercury levels with whey products alone? (since they are supposed to bind to metals). Peggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 Rich, I think your correct on the mercury issue but one of the big problems is mercury amalgams don't last for life. All my molars were filled at age 11 by my uncle. My molars have deep recesses and I was getting cavities in most of them so he filled all of them in. Now they are 30 yrs. old and I was told by a dentist that they are degrading and need replacement. I wish they were gold which apparently does last for life and does not meaningfully degrade and leach into the body. According to Cheney the body begins dumping large amounts of mercury into the bloodstream when the fillings are replace and even if the teeth are pulled out entirely. You'd thing if you just pulled them out by the root you'd reduce the ongoing mercury being released but for some reason the body senses the change and dumps the mercury that has built up in the internal organs over the years. Steve B. Re: STEPHEN/RICH/OTHERS-COLOSTRUM-Th1/Th2? > > > [snip] > > > > > I don't know what supplements you have tried, but vitamin C and > > > glutathione are very important in the lungs. Glutathione is best > > > built up by taking nondenatured whey protein and alpha lipoic acid. > > > > If still have amalgam fillings and ALA is bad to take, then what [if > > any] > > effect does the whey have on the mercury in body and teeth? thanks MA > > Ann, > > This may sound like heresy, but I'm not sure that it's true that one has to get rid of amalgam fillings before one can detox mercury from the body. It seems to me that the rate of release of mercury from fillings would be independent of detoxing mercury from the body. Many people who have normal detox systems live with mercury fillings their whole lives, with no apparent problems from them. > > I still don't think I understand mercury detoxing well enough to take a hard and fast position on it. I have read some very strongly expressed opinions from people who have had different personal experiences, namely Andy Cutler and Ray Saarela. It seems that it doesn't work the same for everyone. I don't have a personal experience with mercury detox myself, but it seems to me that trying to stay close to the body's natural detox methods would be the safest approach until more is understood about it. The body's natural method of mercury detox involves glutathione. Therefore, it seems to me that building glutathione by the most natural approach would be the best. If nondenatured whey protein alone will do it for an individual who has a high mercury load, that would seem to me to be the best. If it won't work, as seems to be the case for many people, who go high in cysteine but don't seem to be able to build glutathione this way, then I think Jeff 's approach of simply taking glycine and glutamic acid, or perhaps glycine and glutamine for those who don't do well on glutamic acid, may be the best. I do think that over time it will be possible to get the mercury out, even with fillings still in place. Depending on the relative rates of excretion and release from fillings, however, it may take longer to get the mercury out if fillings are still in place. I have a lot to learn about this subject. > > Rich > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2002 Report Share Posted January 31, 2002 At 11:41 PM 01/30/2002 -0000, you wrote: >Good thing I asked !!!!! Thank you every one who chipped in on this. >I have dropped the supplements for chelating. I am sticking with my >Amalex homoeopathic and the liver protection... Hmmm, I must have >misunderstood the man, (right????) I'm not sure that THAT product that says its homepathic is HOMEOPATHY. Homeopathy is matching a remedy to your total symptom picture. Just using a remedy that is diluted does not make it homeopathy. I would encourage you to see a quality classical homeopath for true homeopathic treatment. > >Anyway. One thing that has not been said about the amalgams actually >being removed - I have read that taking a charcoal tablet half an >hour before treatment will lessen vapour inhalation (?) as well as >the use of a nosepiece and tube so you are bot breathing them in. >Also, a rubberdam ought to be used to stop the bits going down your >throat (uh, duh!) I had my amalgams removed in the early 90's by one of the first trained to do so correctly. Dental dam to catch anything that fell, nosepiece with breathing tubes bring air far from your mouth, and goggles. Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2002 Report Share Posted March 11, 2002 , you are sooo right! I believe the advice given out here has been to ALWAYS demand to see the product insert. A friend of mine even says to demand to take home the actual vial that the vaccine is drawn from. And to always with your own two eyes watch the poison being drawn into the syringe. That way you know for sure what you are getting. Just a couple days ago I read a BabyCenter post where the lady caught the doctor in a lie. He said the vaccine was mercury free and when she demanded to look at the insert she discovered it was NOT! He didn't even apologize. Just gave her some cock and bull story about how mercury was safe or something like that. Kathleen In a message dated 3/11/2002 10:05:51 PM Central Standard Time, ckcarlson@... writes: > The above statement was in a post, but my email program wouldn't let me mark > it as such. My belief is that most doctors can't be trusted to use mercury > free vaccines. They most likely will be more expensive, and many of them > will want to use the supply they have. Maybe I'm wrong. Most parents > don't know any better either. They blindly trust their doctors. The > wording there is " be available " . If the health professionals really cared, > they would modify the schedule, and demand that all vaccines being given > singularly and not have any harmful substances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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