Guest guest Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 First of all, you aren't running the machine long enough. You need to run it for multiple cycles, & I suspect the more the better. AT LEAST 3 or 4 8-minute cycles. (If I lose count, I always run it an extra cycle.) Since there is some concern that the machine could overheat if you run it continuously, you can space those cycles out a bit.Secondly, I keep reading about these procedures to mix things up FASTER, but I have had the best luck with slow mixing. I dump the lecithin into the water the night before, & shake it just a few times to break up the big lumps of lecithin. Then I leave it sitting out on the counter overnight (with a lid.) When I get up in the morning, it will usually shake up in less than a minute. If there are big lumps, I shake it for a while & let it sit some more. (The lecithin seems to vary from one batch to another. Some is more prone to clumping than others.) Thirdly, you want to be sure the lecithin is THOROUGHLY mixed before you add it to the other solution. If you leave it sitting on the counter for a while, & can see lumps or a dark layer at the bottom, it is not mixed well enough yet.This procedure, even at its best, is apparently not going to give you total encapsulation of all the ascorbic solution. But if you mix the separate solutions thoroughly before you combine & process them, you can get really good results.AnneOn Apr 4, 2011, at 5:38 AM, Pd wrote: I finally got around to attempting this myself, based on instructional posts that I had saved. The first was Digest #3700, Jan 31, 2010, posted by "Sandy," then #4326 (Anne Seals, re: handling detox effect), then in #4419, Sage, Greg and Anne Seals. I've an additional document saved, by Alobar Greywalker (Aug 26, 2009), that has some additional hints and data. Not sure where I got that one from, but was probably posted in the Iodine Digest at some point. There are probably others who have prepared this, as well. At any rate, I've got significant money in all the supplies, including the ultra sonic cleaner, and don't want it to be wasted. I've made 2 batches, but both have failed to remain homogenized, with solids of approximately 1/2 the volume on the bottom of the storage jars, and the other 1/2 a liquid layer. I ran one of the batches of ingredients through the blender, as Sandy had suggested, and that one developed such a large head of foam that it wouldn't all fit into the cleaner reservoir until I'd run the cleaner through one+ cycle, stirring as instructed. I'm wondering if this mirrors others results, or if there is something else/different I should be doing? I did let the lecithin granules sit in their distilled water for a while to dissolve (and stirred, per instructions), but maybe they need to sit longer, before shaking or blending? Is it harmful to the finished product to run them through the cleaner longer than 6-8 minutes? When I shake the jars, the two layers do mix, but I'm concerned that I haven't got something quite right and won't be getting maximum benefit from this concoction. As the liposomal form is supposed to be so much better absorbed than straight Vit C, I would really like this to be as good as I can get it! Any input will be greatly appreciated! Pam H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 Wow - thanks, baxrox. You regularly come up with very good and relevant info, I appreciate your reasoning and always make a point of reading your posts. Think I expended close to an hour at the pdazzler site, with more to read. I had no idea how far Bradley's process has been taken. Have also joined the DIY-LET group, and imagine I'll be poking there for quite some time. That guarantees that I'll fall even further behind with the email inbox. I had to laugh, a few hours after I posted, to discover that this topic had been raised here as recently as Mar 30. No wonder I had such an overwhelming urge to post a question (the 's Law principle). Many, many thanks .........Pam H > > > > I finally got around to attempting this myself, based on instructional posts that I had saved. The first was Digest #3700, Jan 31, 2010, posted by " Sandy, " then #4326 (Anne Seals, re: handling detox effect), then in #4419, Sage, Greg and Anne Seals. I've an additional document saved, by Alobar Greywalker (Aug 26, 2009), that has some additional hints and data. Not sure where I got that one from, but was probably posted in the Iodine Digest at some point. There are probably others who have prepared this, as well. > > > > At any rate, I've got significant money in all the supplies, including the ultra sonic cleaner, and don't want it to be wasted. I've made 2 batches, but both have failed to remain homogenized, with solids of approximately 1/2 the volume on the bottom of the storage jars, and the other 1/2 a liquid layer. I ran one of the batches of ingredients through the blender, as Sandy had suggested, and that one developed such a large head of foam that it wouldn't all fit into the cleaner reservoir until I'd run the cleaner through one+ cycle, stirring as instructed. > > > > I'm wondering if this mirrors others results, or if there is something else/different I should be doing? I did let the lecithin granules sit in their distilled water for a while to dissolve (and stirred, per instructions), but maybe they need to sit longer, before shaking or blending? Is it harmful to the finished product to run them through the cleaner longer than 6-8 minutes? When I shake the jars, the two layers do mix, but I'm concerned that I haven't got something quite right and won't be getting maximum benefit from this concoction. As the liposomal form is supposed to be so much better absorbed than straight Vit C, I would really like this to be as good as I can get it! > > > > Any input will be greatly appreciated! > > > > Pam H > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 I thank you, Anne. My machine just does 2 or 3 minute cycles, and the original instructions I have here said to run it for 6 minutes, so I was hesitant to go much beyond that. I'll be trying the overnight soak, as well. I'll take my jars out of the fridge and try running them some more, in hopes of salvaging them. One of the revisions Bradley came up with that I saw at the pdazzler site that baxrox suggested, was to process a shallower level of liquid (3/4 to 1 " depth), so I'll also try dividing my solution to accomplish that in the future. Unfortunately, my Harbor Freight had been charging $69.99 for the larger unit (ten dollars above what others Iodiners had paid recently), and shelf was empty the 3 times I was in there looking. Ended up with the smaller unit for $40 (again, $10 more than other areas of the country). Maybe it's just my store? Hmmm. I had hoped that you'd respond, as I remembered that you'd been making the stuff. Hope you found your little book! I have a lot of " it's somewhere " things around here, too. You're another whose postings I always look for and read. Always well reasoned, and very diplomatic when things could be touchy. Thanks for the support and invaluable suggestions. Pam H > > > I finally got around to attempting this myself, based on instructional posts that I had saved. The first was Digest #3700, Jan 31, 2010, posted by " Sandy, " then #4326 (Anne Seals, re: handling detox effect), then in #4419, Sage, Greg and Anne Seals. I've an additional document saved, by Alobar Greywalker (Aug 26, 2009), that has some additional hints and data. Not sure where I got that one from, but was probably posted in the Iodine Digest at some point. There are probably others who have prepared this, as well. > > > > At any rate, I've got significant money in all the supplies, including the ultra sonic cleaner, and don't want it to be wasted. I've made 2 batches, but both have failed to remain homogenized, with solids of approximately 1/2 the volume on the bottom of the storage jars, and the other 1/2 a liquid layer. I ran one of the batches of ingredients through the blender, as Sandy had suggested, and that one developed such a large head of foam that it wouldn't all fit into the cleaner reservoir until I'd run the cleaner through one+ cycle, stirring as instructed. > > > > I'm wondering if this mirrors others results, or if there is something else/different I should be doing? I did let the lecithin granules sit in their distilled water for a while to dissolve (and stirred, per instructions), but maybe they need to sit longer, before shaking or blending? Is it harmful to the finished product to run them through the cleaner longer than 6-8 minutes? When I shake the jars, the two layers do mix, but I'm concerned that I haven't got something quite right and won't be getting maximum benefit from this concoction. As the liposomal form is supposed to be so much better absorbed than straight Vit C, I would really like this to be as good as I can get it! > > > > Any input will be greatly appreciated! > > > > Pam H > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 Thank you for your kind words :-) I am most grateful for this forum, sharing her inspiring story and wisdom gained through her journey. I have learned much here from and others and was raised with the motto of " take a penny, share a penny " . Sometimes I actually get there! I have not joined the DIY-LET group and look forward to your future posts sharing what you have learned. > > > > > > I finally got around to attempting this myself, based on instructional posts that I had saved. The first was Digest #3700, Jan 31, 2010, posted by " Sandy, " then #4326 (Anne Seals, re: handling detox effect), then in #4419, Sage, Greg and Anne Seals. I've an additional document saved, by Alobar Greywalker (Aug 26, 2009), that has some additional hints and data. Not sure where I got that one from, but was probably posted in the Iodine Digest at some point. There are probably others who have prepared this, as well. > > > > > > At any rate, I've got significant money in all the supplies, including the ultra sonic cleaner, and don't want it to be wasted. I've made 2 batches, but both have failed to remain homogenized, with solids of approximately 1/2 the volume on the bottom of the storage jars, and the other 1/2 a liquid layer. I ran one of the batches of ingredients through the blender, as Sandy had suggested, and that one developed such a large head of foam that it wouldn't all fit into the cleaner reservoir until I'd run the cleaner through one+ cycle, stirring as instructed. > > > > > > I'm wondering if this mirrors others results, or if there is something else/different I should be doing? I did let the lecithin granules sit in their distilled water for a while to dissolve (and stirred, per instructions), but maybe they need to sit longer, before shaking or blending? Is it harmful to the finished product to run them through the cleaner longer than 6-8 minutes? When I shake the jars, the two layers do mix, but I'm concerned that I haven't got something quite right and won't be getting maximum benefit from this concoction. As the liposomal form is supposed to be so much better absorbed than straight Vit C, I would really like this to be as good as I can get it! > > > > > > Any input will be greatly appreciated! > > > > > > Pam H > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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