Thyroid question

[Guest guest]

Noah was diagnosed with hypothyroidism at birth, and has been on synthroid ever

since. Actually, a couple of years ago

I switched to levoxyl, a generic, when I found out the makers of synthroid had

manipulated studies that kept generics

off the market longer than necessary...grrrrrr, greedy pharmaceutical companies.

Karla in Texas

Michdock@... wrote:

> Hi all,

> I got a call from a new mom today. Her baby is 3 months old and was just

> diagnosed with some thyroid problems. The Dr. prescribed some medications

> and the pharmacist is disagreeing with it and doesn't feel it is safe. She

> was asking me what meds I knew about....

[Guest guest]

Noah was diagnosed with hypothyroidism at birth, and has been on synthroid ever

since. Actually, a couple of years ago

I switched to levoxyl, a generic, when I found out the makers of synthroid had

manipulated studies that kept generics

off the market longer than necessary...grrrrrr, greedy pharmaceutical companies.

Karla in Texas

Michdock@... wrote:

> Hi all,

> I got a call from a new mom today. Her baby is 3 months old and was just

> diagnosed with some thyroid problems. The Dr. prescribed some medications

> and the pharmacist is disagreeing with it and doesn't feel it is safe. She

> was asking me what meds I knew about....

[Guest guest]

My daughter, Adelena is 9 yrs and has been taking Synthroid for her thyroid

since she was a baby. She has not had any side effects from the medication.

Do you know which med she has been prescribed?

Maura

(single mom to lese 12 1/2 yrs & Adelena 9 yrs w/ds)

Log on to- http://www.igive.com/lindseyrae. Each time you purchase from this

site, a percentage is donated to the Lindsey Rae Foundation(a non-profit

organization for children with Down Syndrome). Plus, your purchase maybe

tax deductible.

----Original Message Follows----

From: Michdock@...

Subject: Thyroid question

Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 00:03:23 EDT

Hi all,

I got a call from a new mom today. Her baby is 3 months old and was just

diagnosed with some thyroid problems. The Dr. prescribed some medications

and the pharmacist is disagreeing with it and doesn't feel it is safe. She

was asking me what meds I knew about.... and I don't have to deal with the

thyroid issue so I am totally unaware of anything. I told her I would ask

for some advice from people who know.

So, could any of you tell me what you use/used for your child, esp in the

infant age. Also, if anyone knows of any diet or homeopathic method that

might work, could you let me know?

Thanks,

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[Guest guest]

My daughter, Adelena is 9 yrs and has been taking Synthroid for her thyroid

since she was a baby. She has not had any side effects from the medication.

Do you know which med she has been prescribed?

Maura

(single mom to lese 12 1/2 yrs & Adelena 9 yrs w/ds)

Log on to- http://www.igive.com/lindseyrae. Each time you purchase from this

site, a percentage is donated to the Lindsey Rae Foundation(a non-profit

organization for children with Down Syndrome). Plus, your purchase maybe

tax deductible.

----Original Message Follows----

From: Michdock@...

Subject: Thyroid question

Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 00:03:23 EDT

Hi all,

I got a call from a new mom today. Her baby is 3 months old and was just

diagnosed with some thyroid problems. The Dr. prescribed some medications

and the pharmacist is disagreeing with it and doesn't feel it is safe. She

was asking me what meds I knew about.... and I don't have to deal with the

thyroid issue so I am totally unaware of anything. I told her I would ask

for some advice from people who know.

So, could any of you tell me what you use/used for your child, esp in the

infant age. Also, if anyone knows of any diet or homeopathic method that

might work, could you let me know?

Thanks,

_________________________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

It would also depend on if the child has been diagnosis with Hypothyroidism

or Hyperthyroidism on the types of the meds the doctor would order. My

daughter has Hyperthyroidism and is on PTU and synthroid. The PTU could rise

questions of it safety. You need to watch them when they are sick because it

can effect the white count. My daughter has been on it for 5 years now and we

have had no problems. It is used all the time. I use to do Peds

Endocrinology. I hope that is of some help to you. Please feel free to e-mail

me if you have more questions. Patty

[Guest guest]

It would also depend on if the child has been diagnosis with Hypothyroidism

or Hyperthyroidism on the types of the meds the doctor would order. My

daughter has Hyperthyroidism and is on PTU and synthroid. The PTU could rise

questions of it safety. You need to watch them when they are sick because it

can effect the white count. My daughter has been on it for 5 years now and we

have had no problems. It is used all the time. I use to do Peds

Endocrinology. I hope that is of some help to you. Please feel free to e-mail

me if you have more questions. Patty

[Guest guest]

Donna,

I'm 38, but having the hot flashes, night sweats, mood swings, etc. that go

with peri-menopause. I did just start taking a B complex, which got rid of

the hot flashes (although my body seems to still be running a bit warm, or

else my MIL is just getting cold natured in her old age...)

My pants don't seem to fit tighter, but I did notice that my shirts are

getting a bit tight....too bad it's back and not boobs....

Loriann AKA Flitter the Christian clown

Wife to Dewight

Mom to , 11 years, Down Syndrome, PDD-NOS and Celiac Disease.

, 2.5 years and Strong Willed

[Guest guest]

Donna,

I'm 38, but having the hot flashes, night sweats, mood swings, etc. that go

with peri-menopause. I did just start taking a B complex, which got rid of

the hot flashes (although my body seems to still be running a bit warm, or

else my MIL is just getting cold natured in her old age...)

My pants don't seem to fit tighter, but I did notice that my shirts are

getting a bit tight....too bad it's back and not boobs....

Loriann AKA Flitter the Christian clown

Wife to Dewight

Mom to , 11 years, Down Syndrome, PDD-NOS and Celiac Disease.

, 2.5 years and Strong Willed

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/28/2002 6:27:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,

hsmyangels@... writes:

> Guess I'm just an easy target.

Hi Loriann,

Don't feel bad about it. You are doing a good deed for your FIL. I don't know

how to say no either.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 9 DS/OCD ?

[Guest guest]

Donna,

I'm still on track, but Satan always attacks when I make a commitment like

that. Guess I'm just an easy target. Today, wouldn't go down, then

MIL called. It's FIL's birthday today, but we're celebrating it tomorrow

night (DH has a Bible study tonight). She wanted to know if I could make a

cake to bring. Not just any cake but one of her recipes (which I've never

made) and adapt it for a diabetic. So she was going to bring the artificial

sweetener over and pick up some gf noodles so can have the chicken

Alfredo. I waited, and waited, and waited. 30 minutes later (time enough

to have done the video) I called and said I thought she was coming right

over. No, FIL was doing something and as soon as he got done they'd come

over. I just told her, well, I may not hear the horn because I'll be in the

basement doing my Taebo. She actually acted put out, like it was too much

for her to walk to the door because she was doing me a favor by coming over

in the first place.

And I didn't intend that to be a whine/dump, sorry about that. I did my

TaeBo, and she came an hour after I was done! If I'd waited, I'd have

missed out, because never did take a nap. He's going to be just like

his brother, no naps after 3 years old. I hate that.

Loriann AKA Flitter the Christian clown

Wife to Dewight

Mom to , 11 years, Down Syndrome, PDD-NOS and Celiac Disease.

, 2.5 years and Strong Willed

[Guest guest]

I am just doing a reply to my own message. But my nephew is a dr. and he has

never heard of anything like this. Is my dr. that I took Nikki too NUTS or

what? It makes me wonder now. Any thoughts out there? Thanks,

Joyce mom to 5 with Nikki 10 1/2 months DS

thyroid question

> I took Nikki today to dr. appt. It was for a screening with the MR

> waiver. I asked the dr. about this little white spot under her tongue

> in the front. I just noticed it about a month ago. My first thought

> was maybe it could be a canker sore. The dr. said it was something

> about the thyroid and an opening. I did not understand what he meant.

> But she will go to ENT specialist Aug. 7th for this. Has anyone heard

> of this or know what I mean? I had a daycare kid with me when I went

> to dr. and did not get everything he said. And this dr. was not her

> pediatrician. Thanks,

>

> Joyce mom to 5 with Nikki 10 1/2 months DS

>

>

>

> Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

messages to go to the sender of the message.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Joyce,

When I read your email the first time I was wondering

why would you be sent to an ENT for thyroid? I think

I would get a second opinion. Now maybe he said an

endocrinologist (sp?). This type of doc studies the

endocrine system which the thyroid is a part. Ialso

have never heard of a white spot under the tongue

being associated with thyroid problems.

mom to Bridget 9 ds

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Sorry about not writing earlier... i have been hearing that thyroid levels are

being reworked so that what once was a low normal would now be in the treatment

range.... i just do not know that much about it....

i hope that your job lasts a while..... though if not... i hope something even

better comes up for you

thyroid question

Any one know much about thyroid levels? Had Bens checked and the t4 is

little low, t3 is a little high and the tsh is normal. could the low t4 and

high

t3 cause any symptoms/problems?

I am calling his regular doc tomorrow but curious like, right now! lol

kerrie mom to ben 18ds and alex 15nda

ps btw, got an announcement at work today(state farm regional office in

michigan), my place of employment for almost 23 yrs, they are closing. i am

sick

about this. i think me and my family has had more than its share of bad luck

the past year and a half:(

[Guest guest]

Several months ago I had a chronic fatigue issue myself. I tried

taking extra iron (which usually helps) and potassium and even a B

complex. None of that seemed to make any difference.

Then, I realized I hadn't eaten any beef in a while, called my

girlfriends for an emergency steak dinner gathering, and felt like a

brand new person the next day. Honestly, I couldn't believe how

dramatic the difference was. It's happened a couple of times

since. I start feeling tired all the time, check to see when I ate

beef last, and sure enough find that I've forgotten about it for a

month or so.

But that's me. (My apologies to the vegetarians out there. No

disrepect intended. My body just needs something that apparently

only beef can offer.)

DeDe

>

> I just went to the dr today and got the results from my thyroid

tests. It

> was between 1.6-2.1 and he said that was fine. All my other blood

work came

> back " perfect " . I have been so tired - no exhausted - lately,

that he is

> sending me for a thyroid scan on the 15th. Any one here that can

help me

> decipher all this?

> TIA

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's amazing how different we all are. When I eat beef I feel very

lethargic, and it takes days for my digestive system to feel

emptied. I can even tell the difference with my skin. It's a shame,

because every now I get the urge for a lean piece of beef. Oh well,

seafood and occasional poultry is my thing now.

> >

> > I just went to the dr today and got the results from my thyroid

> tests. It

> > was between 1.6-2.1 and he said that was fine. All my other

blood

> work came

> > back " perfect " . I have been so tired - no exhausted - lately,

> that he is

> > sending me for a thyroid scan on the 15th. Any one here that

can

> help me

> > decipher all this?

> > TIA

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Wow, DeDe, this is something I will have to check into. I haven't had beef

for quite a while. Thank you,

-- Re: thyroid question

Several months ago I had a chronic fatigue issue myself. I tried

taking extra iron (which usually helps) and potassium and even a B

complex. None of that seemed to make any difference.

Then, I realized I hadn't eaten any beef in a while, called my

girlfriends for an emergency steak dinner gathering, and felt like a

brand new person the next day. Honestly, I couldn't believe how

dramatic the difference was. It's happened a couple of times

since. I start feeling tired all the time, check to see when I ate

beef last, and sure enough find that I've forgotten about it for a

month or so.

But that's me. (My apologies to the vegetarians out there. No

disrepect intended. My body just needs something that apparently

only beef can offer.)

DeDe

>

> I just went to the dr today and got the results from my thyroid

tests. It

> was between 1.6-2.1 and he said that was fine. All my other blood

work came

> back " perfect " . I have been so tired - no exhausted - lately,

that he is

> sending me for a thyroid scan on the 15th. Any one here that can

help me

> decipher all this?

> TIA

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

i'm having the exhaustion too and my tests are " perfect " as well. i'm beyond

irritated with modern medicine. endocrinologist on friday...

i'll let you know if i learn anything interesting about " perfect " tests and no

loss of symptoms.

*~sarah

Re: thyroid question

Several months ago I had a chronic fatigue issue myself. I tried

taking extra iron (which usually helps) and potassium and even a B

complex. None of that seemed to make any difference.

Then, I realized I hadn't eaten any beef in a while, called my

girlfriends for an emergency steak dinner gathering, and felt like a

brand new person the next day. Honestly, I couldn't believe how

dramatic the difference was. It's happened a couple of times

since. I start feeling tired all the time, check to see when I ate

beef last, and sure enough find that I've forgotten about it for a

month or so.

But that's me. (My apologies to the vegetarians out there. No

disrepect intended. My body just needs something that apparently

only beef can offer.)

DeDe

>

> I just went to the dr today and got the results from my thyroid

tests. It

> was between 1.6-2.1 and he said that was fine. All my other blood

work came

> back " perfect " . I have been so tired - no exhausted - lately,

that he is

> sending me for a thyroid scan on the 15th. Any one here that can

help me

> decipher all this?

> TIA

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have an appointment to see a second endocrinologist this week as

well. After the board topic a few weeks ago, I thought it was worth

getting a second opinion. My TSH levels are usually up and down, and

I'm labeled as subclinical hypothyroid or something like that. I

also had chronic fatigue, but since I've started exercising and

eating healthier, my energy is increasing. I'll post here in the

group if the second doctor thinks there may be a thyroid issue. I've

read that in 2003, the endocrinology society updated their stats,

and stated that TSH levels over 3.0 " may " require treatment, and

mine have been as high as 7.0. I hate medications, so we'll see.---

In , Beps9601@a... wrote:

>

> i'm having the exhaustion too and my tests are " perfect " as well.

i'm beyond irritated with modern medicine. endocrinologist on

friday...

> i'll let you know if i learn anything interesting about " perfect "

tests and no loss of symptoms.

> *~sarah

>

> Re: thyroid question

>

> Several months ago I had a chronic fatigue issue myself. I tried

> taking extra iron (which usually helps) and potassium and even a B

> complex. None of that seemed to make any difference.

>

> Then, I realized I hadn't eaten any beef in a while, called my

> girlfriends for an emergency steak dinner gathering, and felt like

a

> brand new person the next day. Honestly, I couldn't believe how

> dramatic the difference was. It's happened a couple of times

> since. I start feeling tired all the time, check to see when I ate

> beef last, and sure enough find that I've forgotten about it for a

> month or so.

>

> But that's me. (My apologies to the vegetarians out there. No

> disrepect intended. My body just needs something that apparently

> only beef can offer.)

>

> DeDe

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > I just went to the dr today and got the results from my thyroid

> tests. It

> > was between 1.6-2.1 and he said that was fine. All my other

blood

> work came

> > back " perfect " . I have been so tired - no exhausted - lately,

> that he is

> > sending me for a thyroid scan on the 15th. Any one here that can

> help me

> > decipher all this?

> > TIA

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I assume it was your TSH level he was talking about, right? You need

to find out the *exact* number of your TSH, your Free T4 and your

Free T3. ALL the numbers matter, just as it matters with cholesterol

- a high cholesterol # isn't necessarly bad if your HDL is high and

your LDL is low for example.

Then get the test done again in another month, at a different time

during your cycle as well. i.e. if you were tested at the beginning

of your cycle, test again nearer to mid-cycle. TSH levels go up and

down. Sometimes, it seems, without rhyme or reason.

Also, many women just don't feel well at even so called normal levels.

I personally don't feel good until I am below 1.0 for example.

At the same token, the fatigue may stem from something else

completely and you need to keep investigating other possibilities as

well. If you rule out the other possibilities then you can always

come back to the thyroid.

Best of luck!

Scout

>

> I just went to the dr today and got the results from my thyroid

tests. It

> was between 1.6-2.1 and he said that was fine. All my other blood

work came

> back " perfect " . I have been so tired - no exhausted - lately, that

he is

> sending me for a thyroid scan on the 15th. Any one here that can

help me

> decipher all this?

> TIA

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I would appreciate any information I could get. I am so frustrated and

discouraged about my current state of being. Life shouldn't be this hard

and tiring. I hate that I don't have the energy to do anything right. Good

luck on Friday.

-- Re: thyroid question

Several months ago I had a chronic fatigue issue myself. I tried

taking extra iron (which usually helps) and potassium and even a B

complex. None of that seemed to make any difference.

Then, I realized I hadn't eaten any beef in a while, called my

girlfriends for an emergency steak dinner gathering, and felt like a

brand new person the next day. Honestly, I couldn't believe how

dramatic the difference was. It's happened a couple of times

since. I start feeling tired all the time, check to see when I ate

beef last, and sure enough find that I've forgotten about it for a

month or so.

But that's me. (My apologies to the vegetarians out there. No

disrepect intended. My body just needs something that apparently

only beef can offer.)

DeDe

>

> I just went to the dr today and got the results from my thyroid

tests. It

> was between 1.6-2.1 and he said that was fine. All my other blood

work came

> back " perfect " . I have been so tired - no exhausted - lately,

that he is

> sending me for a thyroid scan on the 15th. Any one here that can

help me

> decipher all this?

> TIA

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Today I went for a second opinion, and despite the high level of

thyroid antibodies I have, enlarged thyroid(goiter), family history

of hypothyroidism, elevated TSH levels(5.0-7.0), a printout of the

new TSH guidelines below, and other symptoms, the the doctor agreed

with the first endocrinologist, and stated that it's not " serious

enough " for him to prescribe meds. He explained that unless my TSH

was over 10, " very few " doctors will treat subclinical hypothyroidsm.

http://thyroid.about.com/cs/hypothyroidism/a/undertreated.htm

He did state that because of the " very high levels " of thyroid

antibodies I have, he " guarantees " I will eventually develop full

blown hypothyroidsm and require meds in the future, but he can't

pinpoint when that will be. He requested that I have another test

for TSH and Free T4 done, along with an ultrasound of the small

goiter just to be on the safe side. I'll probably take care of that

this weekend. Well, that's that. I got a second opinion, and as long

as I'm feeling better while following BFL, and the goiter isn't

large enough for others to notice, I will accept the conclusion of

both endocrinologists, and just have a TSH test taken each year to

stay on top of things. I hate meds, so I was actually relieved.

Though my energy has increased since working out, it still have to

really " push " myself to get the energy to workout. Maybe that will

change at the end of the year.

[Guest guest]

My 2 cents

here...NaturalThyroidHormones/

For everyone with thyroid problems, this is a great group to join.

The people on here are very educated about various thyroid

disorders. They can help decipher your labs, but it is also so

important to remember that your symptoms are just as, and in some

cases more, important that your actual lab numbers. It can be very,

very frustrating, especially so many docs are trained to look at

labs and treat only by the numbers and treat with Synthroid (T4

containing only)...which works great for some, but not everybody.

This is just the 'norm'.

This group really advocates the use of Armour and other natural

thyroid hormones (T1, T2, T3, and T4)...I would really recommend

joining this group and start by reading the files...so much helpful

info...even if you do choose to treat with synthetic meds...the

people there really know their stuff.

Jaima

Sorry to go on and on...this is a subject that I deal with

everyday...once I get started I can't be quiet about it, lol.

>

> Today I went for a second opinion, and despite the high level of

> thyroid antibodies I have, enlarged thyroid(goiter), family

history

> of hypothyroidism, elevated TSH levels(5.0-7.0), a printout of the

> new TSH guidelines below, and other symptoms, the the doctor

agreed

> with the first endocrinologist, and stated that it's not " serious

> enough " for him to prescribe meds. He explained that unless my TSH

> was over 10, " very few " doctors will treat subclinical

hypothyroidsm.

>

> http://thyroid.about.com/cs/hypothyroidism/a/undertreated.htm

>

> He did state that because of the " very high levels " of thyroid

> antibodies I have, he " guarantees " I will eventually develop full

> blown hypothyroidsm and require meds in the future, but he can't

> pinpoint when that will be. He requested that I have another test

> for TSH and Free T4 done, along with an ultrasound of the small

> goiter just to be on the safe side. I'll probably take care of

that

> this weekend. Well, that's that. I got a second opinion, and as

long

> as I'm feeling better while following BFL, and the goiter isn't

> large enough for others to notice, I will accept the conclusion of

> both endocrinologists, and just have a TSH test taken each year to

> stay on top of things. I hate meds, so I was actually relieved.

> Though my energy has increased since working out, it still have to

> really " push " myself to get the energy to workout. Maybe that will

> change at the end of the year.

>

[Guest guest]

Well if it were me I'd go for a 3rd, 4th opinions and further if

necessary. If your TSH level is above 5.0 it above normal and should be

treated. Your thyroid controls everything including your heart so it can

be serious if not treated. Granted I'm not a doctor but I do have

hypothyroidsm. My highest was 11.75. I have had to search and search to

find a doctor that really knows what he/she is doing it really isn't

something that many doctors understand.

Michele T.

On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 00:14:51 -0000 nel82l05 <no_reply >

writes:

> Today I went for a second opinion, and despite the high level of

> thyroid antibodies I have, enlarged thyroid(goiter), family history

>

> of hypothyroidism, elevated TSH levels(5.0-7.0), a printout of the

> new TSH guidelines below, and other symptoms, the the doctor agreed

>

> with the first endocrinologist, and stated that it's not " serious

> enough " for him to prescribe meds. He explained that unless my TSH

> was over 10, " very few " doctors will treat subclinical

> hypothyroidsm.

>

> http://thyroid.about.com/cs/hypothyroidism/a/undertreated.htm

>

> He did state that because of the " very high levels " of thyroid

> antibodies I have, he " guarantees " I will eventually develop full

> blown hypothyroidsm and require meds in the future, but he can't

> pinpoint when that will be. He requested that I have another test

> for TSH and Free T4 done, along with an ultrasound of the small

> goiter just to be on the safe side. I'll probably take care of that

>

> this weekend. Well, that's that. I got a second opinion, and as long

>

> as I'm feeling better while following BFL, and the goiter isn't

> large enough for others to notice, I will accept the conclusion of

> both endocrinologists, and just have a TSH test taken each year to

> stay on top of things. I hate meds, so I was actually relieved.

> Though my energy has increased since working out, it still have to

> really " push " myself to get the energy to workout. Maybe that will

> change at the end of the year.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jaima, I'll join and ask a few questions. Thank you.

> >

> > Today I went for a second opinion, and despite the high level of

> > thyroid antibodies I have, enlarged thyroid(goiter), family

> history

> > of hypothyroidism, elevated TSH levels(5.0-7.0), a printout of

the

> > new TSH guidelines below, and other symptoms, the the doctor

> agreed

> > with the first endocrinologist, and stated that it's

not " serious

> > enough " for him to prescribe meds. He explained that unless my

TSH

> > was over 10, " very few " doctors will treat subclinical

> hypothyroidsm.

> >

> > http://thyroid.about.com/cs/hypothyroidism/a/undertreated.htm

> >

> > He did state that because of the " very high levels " of thyroid

> > antibodies I have, he " guarantees " I will eventually develop

full

> > blown hypothyroidsm and require meds in the future, but he can't

> > pinpoint when that will be. He requested that I have another

test

> > for TSH and Free T4 done, along with an ultrasound of the small

> > goiter just to be on the safe side. I'll probably take care of

> that

> > this weekend. Well, that's that. I got a second opinion, and as

> long

> > as I'm feeling better while following BFL, and the goiter isn't

> > large enough for others to notice, I will accept the conclusion

of

> > both endocrinologists, and just have a TSH test taken each year

to

> > stay on top of things. I hate meds, so I was actually relieved.

> > Though my energy has increased since working out, it still have

to

> > really " push " myself to get the energy to workout. Maybe that

will

> > change at the end of the year.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi , the second endocrinologist stated that TSH levels are

not static, and can fluctuate from morning to night, or with stress

levels. He considered 5.0 right on the borderline, and anything less

than 10.0 and above on three different tests, did not warrant

treatment. I'm not sure what to think now.

I'm going to give this another year. When I reach my goal weight and

have lived a healthier lifestyle for a year, if I have the same

symptoms, then I will KNOW there is more to it. I personally think

the doctors saw that I was overweight, and assumed my symptoms were

due to the extra poundage. If I had been 120 with the same symptoms,

I can't help but feel their reaction would have been different.

I feel much better since working out, so maybe they're right. Hell,

I don't know. Would someone with a genuine thyroid problem have an

increase in energy after exercise, even if it is difficult for them

to get through the workouts? It is so hard for me to muster up the

energy to train, but when I do it works. I'm not sure if the

difficulty is the excess weight or thyroid issues. I'd rather give

the healthy lifestyle 100% effort before trying meds, otherwise I'll

never know if I " really " needed them or not.

>

> Well if it were me I'd go for a 3rd, 4th opinions and further if

> necessary. If your TSH level is above 5.0 it above normal and

should be

> treated. Your thyroid controls everything including your heart so

it can

> be serious if not treated. Granted I'm not a doctor but I do have

> hypothyroidsm. My highest was 11.75. I have had to search and

search to

> find a doctor that really knows what he/she is doing it really

isn't

> something that many doctors understand.

> Michele T.

>

> On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 00:14:51 -0000 nel82l05

<no_reply >

> writes:

> > Today I went for a second opinion, and despite the high level of

> > thyroid antibodies I have, enlarged thyroid(goiter), family

history

> >

> > of hypothyroidism, elevated TSH levels(5.0-7.0), a printout of

the

> > new TSH guidelines below, and other symptoms, the the doctor

agreed

> >

> > with the first endocrinologist, and stated that it's

not " serious

> > enough " for him to prescribe meds. He explained that unless my

TSH

> > was over 10, " very few " doctors will treat subclinical

> > hypothyroidsm.

> >

> > http://thyroid.about.com/cs/hypothyroidism/a/undertreated.htm

> >

> > He did state that because of the " very high levels " of thyroid

> > antibodies I have, he " guarantees " I will eventually develop

full

> > blown hypothyroidsm and require meds in the future, but he can't

> > pinpoint when that will be. He requested that I have another

test

> > for TSH and Free T4 done, along with an ultrasound of the small

> > goiter just to be on the safe side. I'll probably take care of

that

> >

> > this weekend. Well, that's that. I got a second opinion, and as

long

> >

> > as I'm feeling better while following BFL, and the goiter isn't

> > large enough for others to notice, I will accept the conclusion

of

> > both endocrinologists, and just have a TSH test taken each year

to

> > stay on top of things. I hate meds, so I was actually relieved.

> > Though my energy has increased since working out, it still have

to

> > really " push " myself to get the energy to workout. Maybe that

will

> > change at the end of the year.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >