Guest guest Posted January 6, 2000 Report Share Posted January 6, 2000 And *I* was doing so good at not telling my parents about my children's vax status. Well, someone else told them. I don't even know for sure who else knew (that they would have had reason to speak to). It maybe came up with the whole Chicken Pox thing since mine are the only ones that weren't vaxed or already immune to that. Who knows, but now I am faced with trying to either explain the whole thing to them or just let it drop. Here's how the conversation went this morning... Dad: " Someone said you're not getting him (Isaac, 7mos) vaxed " Me: " No " Dad: " Did you see that piece on GMA the other day? " Me: " Only a little bit of it " Dad: " I think it's pretty risky " Me: (I can be really dumb sometimes) " What? " (didn't know if he meant vaxing or not vaxing) Dad: " I think it's pretty risky not getting them " Me: (forever trying to not stir up controversy) " Well, we haven't ruled them *ALL* out, we are waiting because the longer we wait the stronger his immune system will be if we do do them " Dad: (some sort of scowl or something =) Me: " I'm pretty confident in our decision " . My DH is not vaxed, had most of the " childhood diseases " when he was a child. Until I knew better, I thought that was just awful. He didn't have them because of ignorance and religion (that only an excuse IMHO). (Let me clarify, yes, religion is a valid excuse, but my IL's can't use it.) When our older 2 were vaxed it was an issue because of polio etc. so my mom and I had had vaxing discussions before, but they were uninformed discussions (read: inlaw bashing....I know, that's awful). SO, I know the discussion was rather tame (that's as confrontational as my dad gets usually, he brought it up, from there I get defensive). Would you try to explain the whole vaxing issue, or would you just let it and wait and see if there's another discussion down the road? Half of me is leaning toward giving them the " The Vaccine Guide " (Neu...something) and letting them read it if they want, otherwise, I guess they don't care to know the " whys " of our decision. But the other half says it's none of their business so drop it. Oh well, it's not something the world's going to stop over, just wondering what other people might do... Isaac (7 mos, 5/25/99), (almost 4, 2/15/96) and (7, 12/2/92) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2000 Report Share Posted January 6, 2000 , You really need to get the book " Homeopathy & Your Child " by Lyle W. II. This book goes into great detail about the actual childhood diseases and then it tells you about the vaccination and what it can do, how effective it is and the risks it has then it tells you what homeopathic remedy to use and its success rates and how long these have been around and used and how safe they are. It is the best reference book and yet it is only 116 pages long so that it is not over whelming to people like your family. Well that is my suggestion. I hope this helps. Parents advice >And *I* was doing so good at not telling my parents about my children's vax >status. Well, someone else told them. I don't even know for sure who else >knew (that they would have had reason to speak to). It maybe came up with >the whole Chicken Pox thing since mine are the only ones that weren't vaxed >or already immune to that. Who knows, but now I am faced with trying to >either explain the whole thing to them or just let it drop. Here's how the >conversation went this morning... > >Dad: " Someone said you're not getting him (Isaac, 7mos) vaxed " >Me: " No " >Dad: " Did you see that piece on GMA the other day? " >Me: " Only a little bit of it " >Dad: " I think it's pretty risky " >Me: (I can be really dumb sometimes) " What? " (didn't know if he meant >vaxing or not vaxing) >Dad: " I think it's pretty risky not getting them " >Me: (forever trying to not stir up controversy) " Well, we haven't ruled them >*ALL* out, we are waiting because the longer we wait the stronger his immune >system will be if we do do them " >Dad: (some sort of scowl or something =) >Me: " I'm pretty confident in our decision " . > >My DH is not vaxed, had most of the " childhood diseases " when he was a >child. Until I knew better, I thought that was just awful. He didn't have >them because of ignorance and religion (that only an excuse IMHO). (Let me >clarify, yes, religion is a valid excuse, but my IL's can't use it.) When >our older 2 were vaxed it was an issue because of polio etc. so my mom and I >had had vaxing discussions before, but they were uninformed discussions >(read: inlaw bashing....I know, that's awful). > >SO, I know the discussion was rather tame (that's as confrontational as my >dad gets usually, he brought it up, from there I get defensive). Would you >try to explain the whole vaxing issue, or would you just let it and wait and >see if there's another discussion down the road? Half of me is leaning >toward giving them the " The Vaccine Guide " (Neu...something) and letting >them read it if they want, otherwise, I guess they don't care to know the > " whys " of our decision. But the other half says it's none of their business >so drop it. > >Oh well, it's not something the world's going to stop over, just wondering >what other people might do... > > >Isaac (7 mos, 5/25/99), (almost 4, 2/15/96) and (7, 12/2/92) > > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2000 Report Share Posted January 6, 2000 , Give them some mainstream articles such as Dec. 1996 in Money Magazine... " The Lethal Dangers of the Billion Dollar Business " ....invite them to read People magazine..11/99 where Al Unser, Jr (the race car driver)'s daughter became paralyzed following the Hep B vaccine (it actually says that is what they think caused it). Invite them to go to the NVIC 2cnd international vaccine conference in Sept. 2000.... These are just some ideas. The only reason I would ever go into an explanation with parents/in-laws (both of our parents know and now fully support our decision to the point that they write letters to congress and sign petitions when I give them to them) is in case of your/husband's death. If they were named the guardians then they should understand why you were so opposed so they would not cave under pressure. Otherwise, if you have another guardian selected, who understands and supports your decision...then I would just passivly inform them...you know send an article occasionally. Just my thoughts. in CT Dale & Swartz wrote: > > And *I* was doing so good at not telling my parents about my children's vax > status. Well, someone else told them. I don't even know for sure who else > knew (that they would have had reason to speak to). It maybe came up with > the whole Chicken Pox thing since mine are the only ones that weren't vaxed > or already immune to that. Who knows, but now I am faced with trying to > either explain the whole thing to them or just let it drop. Here's how the > conversation went this morning... > > Dad: " Someone said you're not getting him (Isaac, 7mos) vaxed " > Me: " No " > Dad: " Did you see that piece on GMA the other day? " > Me: " Only a little bit of it " > Dad: " I think it's pretty risky " > Me: (I can be really dumb sometimes) " What? " (didn't know if he meant > vaxing or not vaxing) > Dad: " I think it's pretty risky not getting them " > Me: (forever trying to not stir up controversy) " Well, we haven't ruled them > *ALL* out, we are waiting because the longer we wait the stronger his immune > system will be if we do do them " > Dad: (some sort of scowl or something =) > Me: " I'm pretty confident in our decision " . > > My DH is not vaxed, had most of the " childhood diseases " when he was a > child. Until I knew better, I thought that was just awful. He didn't have > them because of ignorance and religion (that only an excuse IMHO). (Let me > clarify, yes, religion is a valid excuse, but my IL's can't use it.) When > our older 2 were vaxed it was an issue because of polio etc. so my mom and I > had had vaxing discussions before, but they were uninformed discussions > (read: inlaw bashing....I know, that's awful). > > SO, I know the discussion was rather tame (that's as confrontational as my > dad gets usually, he brought it up, from there I get defensive). Would you > try to explain the whole vaxing issue, or would you just let it and wait and > see if there's another discussion down the road? Half of me is leaning > toward giving them the " The Vaccine Guide " (Neu...something) and letting > them read it if they want, otherwise, I guess they don't care to know the > " whys " of our decision. But the other half says it's none of their business > so drop it. > > Oh well, it's not something the world's going to stop over, just wondering > what other people might do... > > > Isaac (7 mos, 5/25/99), (almost 4, 2/15/96) and (7, 12/2/92) > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2000 Report Share Posted January 6, 2000 Ruth, It is scheduled for the land, Washington, DC area and is currently set for September 8, 9, and 10 of 2000 (this year). I am sure more information will be coming out. I read many commentaries from the last one held in 1997 and also got hold of a copy of the actual program and it was quite impressive with all the doctors. Understand though that for the most part the main focus will be freedom of choice, and safe vaccines. I am sure there will be people who speak for vaccines and those who will most definately speak against vaccines. The NVIC walks a fine line in that they don't nor could for legal reasons tell someone to NOT vaccinate. What they do to the best of their ability is to question the science, raise the red flags, highly promote choice and information and to the best of their ability help the victims. I am sure there will also be people from alternative medicine such as homeopathy. I am eagerly looking forward to it. Not only for the information but to be around MANY like minded people who believe in choice. Every time I go to a congressional hearing it encourages me that I am doing the right thing. I meet parents who never vaccinated, some who partially or fully vaccinated and now have a damaged child and who the gov't forgets, parents who have had children die due to vaccines who the gov't and $$$manufactueres forget, parents who have had children die to the disease (although most of them are extremally adversarial if you question the use of a vaccine), etc. It definately makes you realize this is a huge issue and that you are not alone with the decisions. If I remember the prices were quite reasonable for the conference but of course it did not include food or hotel (definately a cost to consider in the DC area...but if people were to room together the cost would be more affordable/person.) If you want more information contact the NVIC. Ruthie Bear wrote: > > Dear , > > I read that you mentioned the NVIC 2cnd international vaccine conference. I > have been to one conference in Lonodn, is this one in USA? Can you tell me > more about it please? I may travel from London to go to it. > > Thanks, > Ruth Acaster > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2000 Report Share Posted January 6, 2000 Hello, wanted to explain how I dealt with telling people about my daughters vaccination status. I gave them a book that was simple to read and told them to have a read and then tell me what they thought. My mum is totally against vaccination now and my dad is coming round to the idea. If they couldn't be bothered to read the book then I would have told them to keep their mouths shut about it!! Ruth (From England.) >And *I* was doing so good at not telling my parents about my children's vax >status. Well, someone else told them. I don't even know for sure who else >knew (that they would have had reason to speak to). It maybe came up with >the whole Chicken Pox thing since mine are the only ones that weren't vaxed >or already immune to that. Who knows, but now I am faced with trying to >either explain the whole thing to them or just let it drop. Here's how the >conversation went this morning... > >Dad: " Someone said you're not getting him (Isaac, 7mos) vaxed " >Me: " No " >Dad: " Did you see that piece on GMA the other day? " >Me: " Only a little bit of it " >Dad: " I think it's pretty risky " >Me: (I can be really dumb sometimes) " What? " (didn't know if he meant >vaxing or not vaxing) >Dad: " I think it's pretty risky not getting them " >Me: (forever trying to not stir up controversy) " Well, we haven't ruled them >*ALL* out, we are waiting because the longer we wait the stronger his immune >system will be if we do do them " >Dad: (some sort of scowl or something =) >Me: " I'm pretty confident in our decision " . > >My DH is not vaxed, had most of the " childhood diseases " when he was a >child. Until I knew better, I thought that was just awful. He didn't have >them because of ignorance and religion (that only an excuse IMHO). (Let me >clarify, yes, religion is a valid excuse, but my IL's can't use it.) When >our older 2 were vaxed it was an issue because of polio etc. so my mom and I >had had vaxing discussions before, but they were uninformed discussions >(read: inlaw bashing....I know, that's awful). > >SO, I know the discussion was rather tame (that's as confrontational as my >dad gets usually, he brought it up, from there I get defensive). Would you >try to explain the whole vaxing issue, or would you just let it and wait and >see if there's another discussion down the road? Half of me is leaning >toward giving them the " The Vaccine Guide " (Neu...something) and letting >them read it if they want, otherwise, I guess they don't care to know the > " whys " of our decision. But the other half says it's none of their business >so drop it. > >Oh well, it's not something the world's going to stop over, just wondering >what other people might do... > > >Isaac (7 mos, 5/25/99), (almost 4, 2/15/96) and (7, 12/2/92) > > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2000 Report Share Posted January 6, 2000 Dear , I read that you mentioned the NVIC 2cnd international vaccine conference. I have been to one conference in Lonodn, is this one in USA? Can you tell me more about it please? I may travel from London to go to it. Thanks, Ruth Acaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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