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Anyone have normal BMs then out of no where loose funny color etc. My son

has been eating a lot of cheerios which Dr. G. says are fine. Really he is

eating nothing new. Medication is the same. Same enzymes.

Any ideas would be great.

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Hi ,

When my son started the protocol, he had BM's like that for a while:

normal for a while, then one or two loose, funny-colored one, then

back to normal, and so forth. That took a while to normalize. Now

his BM's are perfectly normal except when we adjust a med. For us, it

was really a matter of finding out which foods were bothering him,

including ones that Dr. G said were " ok " . For example, my son's food

panel said he had moderate sensitivity to peanuts, but Dr. G said I

could give him the smooth, processed peanut butter. That turned out

not to be true for . And even though wheat products are supposed

to be ok as long as they're processed, we found that by greatly

reducing wheat and gluten in general (it was not necessary to go

completely wheat/gluten-free), experienced a lot of improvement.

Try eliminating the cheerios (or any other " suspicious " food) for a

week, and then putting them back in and see if that makes a

difference. Also -- is your son in school? Could he be getting a

forbidden food there? I know that once my son helped himself to

someone's pizza bagel!

HTH,

Donna

> Anyone have normal BMs then out of no where loose funny color etc.

My son

> has been eating a lot of cheerios which Dr. G. says are fine.

Really he is

> eating nothing new. Medication is the same. Same enzymes.

>

> Any ideas would be great.

>

>

>

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I think we had this same problem when my son's yeast would flare up

(too much sugar). I never really paid enough attention to limiting sugar, I

figured since he was on antifungals that would take care of the yeast.

Wrong!

Enzymes helped with the light-colored stools that were persistent. I've

started giving my son fresh garlic every day,(not easy to do!) along with

really getting aggressive about sugar (baking all his treats myself with

Xylitol, etc) and he's doing so much better....and the stools are

CONSISTENLY good for a month now. They've always been good, but every 2

weeks or so, he'd have floating, fluffy off-colored, gasssy stools for a

couple of days. (like a die-off?)

Plus, his running in circles thing has gone down, REALLY gone down for

the first time since we were on Nizoral. We also switched to Prozac, but I

know yeast makes him stimmy more than anything.

HTH, Becky

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> Anyone have normal BMs then out of no where loose funny color etc. My

son

> has been eating a lot of cheerios which Dr. G. says are fine. Really he

is

> eating nothing new. Medication is the same. Same enzymes.

>

> Any ideas would be great.

>

>

>

>

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Be upfront with the school staff, If you tell them the situation,

they will understand. Schools don't like to report child abuse.

They want to give the benefit of the doubt so just give them a heads

up, they'll cooperate. That stick thing was probably scary for your

son and Aspies seem to be easily scarred by the tinyest things but

with my son, each scar gets healed when another one comes along.

I know, I know...It's sounds horrible but what are you gonna do?!

>

> Just wanted to ask some advice. My five year old has real trouble

sensing that he is about to have a bowel movement. He has always

said that his tummy hurts and then I tell him he needs to go to the

toilet. Well a few months ago he was sitting outide of the lawn and

he got a splinter in his pants. I told him it was like a tiny

stick. I really regret that now. Since then when he has a bowel

motion coming he says " my bum hurts, stick in it. " I've tried to

tell him that there is no stick in there, that he needs to go to the

toilet. And he goes and sure enough he really needed to go. But

with school starting next year I am starting to worry about what

they'll think if he starts telling people that he has a stick up his

bottom and it's making it hurt. :( I can just see us getting

called in for child abuse. But no matter what I say he has latched

onto the stick thing and now he says it everytime he needs to go.

Any advice?

> Beck

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Sorry I don't have advice but definitely understand the words sticking if you

ever say them once. I have a 3 yr old that is constipated for the most part all

the time. I made the comment one time that she had ROCKS in her pullup. Now

everytime she goes its rocks and now she inspects the size. (baby, teenage, old

people) lol got to love the thought process.

Tammie

Mark son <thejacobsons@...> wrote:

Just wanted to ask some advice. My five year old has real trouble sensing

that he is about to have a bowel movement. He has always said that his tummy

hurts and then I tell him he needs to go to the toilet. Well a few months ago

he was sitting outide of the lawn and he got a splinter in his pants. I told

him it was like a tiny stick. I really regret that now. Since then when he has

a bowel motion coming he says " my bum hurts, stick in it. " I've tried to tell

him that there is no stick in there, that he needs to go to the toilet. And he

goes and sure enough he really needed to go. But with school starting next year

I am starting to worry about what they'll think if he starts telling people that

he has a stick up his bottom and it's making it hurt. :( I can just see us

getting called in for child abuse. But no matter what I say he has latched onto

the stick thing and now he says it everytime he needs to go. Any advice?

Beck

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I think the teachers will just see it for what it is Hon...an expression

your child uses meaning they have to go to the bathroom.

Don't worry.. Just let them know that if he says it... That's what he means.

-- Re: ( ) bowel issues

Sorry I don't have advice but definitely understand the words sticking if

you ever say them once. I have a 3 yr old that is constipated for the most

part all the time. I made the comment one time that she had ROCKS in her

pullup. Now everytime she goes its rocks and now she inspects the size.

(baby, teenage, old people) lol got to love the thought process.

Tammie

Mark son <thejacobsons@...> wrote:

Just wanted to ask some advice. My five year old has real trouble sensing

that he is about to have a bowel movement. He has always said that his

tummy hurts and then I tell him he needs to go to the toilet. Well a few

months ago he was sitting outide of the lawn and he got a splinter in his

pants. I told him it was like a tiny stick. I really regret that now.

Since then when he has a bowel motion coming he says " my bum hurts, stick in

it. " I've tried to tell him that there is no stick in there, th

at he needs to go to the toilet. And he goes and sure enough he really

needed to go. But with school starting next year I am starting to worry

about what they'll think if he starts telling people that he has a stick up

his bottom and it's making it hurt. :( I can just see us getting called in

for child abuse. But no matter what I say he has latched onto the stick

thing and now he says it everytime he needs to go. Any advice?

Beck

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my kids have probs sensing having to use bathroom either types of needs until

it's urgent...if they are involved in something that they are " taken with " . I

frequently make them take bnreaks and go anyway just to prevent the messes we

use to have. They've gotten into the routine now and it helps. All it takes is

" R,, use the bathroom now. " I have to add now or use the bthroom could be

anytime from nw til Christmas! lol

( ) bowel issues

Just wanted to ask some advice. My five year old has real trouble sensing

that he is about to have a bowel movement. He has always said that his tummy

hurts and then I tell him he needs to go to the toilet. Well a few months ago

he was sitting outide of the lawn and he got a splinter in his pants. I told

him it was like a tiny stick. I really regret that now. Since then when he has

a bowel motion coming he says " my bum hurts, stick in it. " I've tried to tell

him that there is no stick in there, that he needs to go to the toilet. And he

goes and sure enough he really needed to go. But with school starting next year

I am starting to worry about what they'll think if he starts telling people that

he has a stick up his bottom and it's making it hurt. :( I can just see us

getting called in for child abuse. But no matter what I say he has latched onto

the stick thing and now he says it everytime he need Beck

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Just wanted to ask some advice. My five year old has real trouble sensing

that he is about to have a bowel movement. He has always said that his

tummy hurts and then I tell him he needs to go to the toilet. Well a few

months ago he was sitting outide of the lawn and he got a splinter in his

pants. I told him it was like a tiny stick. I really regret that now.

Since then when he has a bowel motion coming he says " my bum hurts, stick in

it. " I've tried to tell him that there is no stick in there, that he needs

to go to the toilet. And he goes and sure enough he really needed to go.

But with school starting next year I am starting to worry about what they'll

think if he starts telling people that he has a stick up his bottom and it's

making it hurt. :( I can just see us getting called in for child abuse.

But no matter what I say he has latched onto the stick thing and now he says

it everytime he needs to go. Any advice?

Beck

That's a tough one. I would just keep using the same phrase with him and

having him repeat what you say each time. Explain each time, a splinter was

over here - your poop comes out over there. Then have him say, " I have to

go poo poo (or whatever phrase you want to use). " I think in time, he will

start changing but it might be a good while.

Roxanna

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Hi!

My son (6, PDD) has had bowel issues since he was 18

mos. My first thought was that he was straining to go.

He was actually straining to hold it in. Years later,

I found out he has " encopresis " - holding in his

stool.

One of the issues with encopresis is not feeling the

urge to go - you're right. He doesn't. It's because

when he feels it a little, he holds it in. Maybe not

even consciously. His anal muscles get stretched

because of holding in the stool, and it weakens in the

ability to let your brain know you have to go

( " megacolon " ). Then, when the stool gets really big,

then the muscle kicks in & tells your brain that you

have to go. Then it's days later, and the stool is

really big and hard. Often, it hurts.

What helps Max is regularly telling him to sit and go.

If 2 days pass without a b.m., he has to sit and go.

He does - 2 cups worth! This regularity prevents him

from getting " backed up " inside, and accidents at

inopportune times (such as school).

Sorry this is so long. It's the shorter version

(believe it or not!). If you want a longer version,

feel free to email me personally or to the group again

(unfortunately, I've had too much experience with

this).

- Adrienne from Boston

--- Mark son <thejacobsons@...> wrote:

> Just wanted to ask some advice. My five year old

> has real trouble sensing that he is about to have a

> bowel movement. He has always said that his tummy

> hurts and then I tell him he needs to go to the

> toilet. Well a few months ago he was sitting outide

> of the lawn and he got a splinter in his pants. I

> told him it was like a tiny stick. I really regret

> that now. Since then when he has a bowel motion

> coming he says " my bum hurts, stick in it. " I've

> tried to tell him that there is no stick in there,

> that he needs to go to the toilet. And he goes and

> sure enough he really needed to go. But with school

> starting next year I am starting to worry about what

> they'll think if he starts telling people that he

> has a stick up his bottom and it's making it hurt.

> :( I can just see us getting called in for child

> abuse. But no matter what I say he has latched onto

> the stick thing and now he says it everytime he

> needs to go. Any advice?

> Beck

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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My son age 11 still has problems. He gets sooo constipated that it

just comes out some and he will go all day with dirty pants. He is

on myralax but it's hard to get him to take it. If he even suspects

it's mized in his drink he wont drink it. since it's medicine that

needs ti build up in your system I've not been able to get him

regulated. There are a couple of other kids in his social skills

group that are on myralax also because of continual constipation. I

beleive I read that digestive problems can me a symptom of AS

>

> Just wanted to ask some advice. My five year old has real trouble

sensing that he is about to have a bowel movement. He has always

said that his tummy hurts and then I tell him he needs to go to the

toilet. Well a few months ago he was sitting outide of the lawn and

he got a splinter in his pants. I told him it was like a tiny

stick. I really regret that now. Since then when he has a bowel

motion coming he says " my bum hurts, stick in it. " I've tried to

tell him that there is no stick in there, that he needs to go to the

toilet. And he goes and sure enough he really needed to go. But

with school starting next year I am starting to worry about what

they'll think if he starts telling people that he has a stick up his

bottom and it's making it hurt. :( I can just see us getting called

in for child abuse. But no matter what I say he has latched onto the

stick thing and now he says it everytime he needs to go. Any advice?

> Beck

>

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My daughter is 5 and she has a problem simlair to that but she

doesn't eat it but she will not wipe her self with toleit paper she

always wants to use a towel then she wants to throw away the towel.

I have tried to explain to her thats what it is for and she argues

with me. Does your son have a problem when he urinates. She will

hold it. She will dance around and you ask her if she has to go and

she states no I just want to do this. She has complained of her

tummy hurting and I try to explain it to her and she aruges with me.

She hasn't been dx yet, but I know that things aren't right.

Thanks

>

> Sorry guys but there is no way to seek advice on this issue

without making everyone feel a little unsettled in the tummy. My

almost 6 year old son seems intent on tasting his own waste

products. I am trying to teach him to wipe himself but he always

ends up arguing with me because I won't let him lick the toilet

paper. I think I'm doing pretty well so far by keeping my cool and

trying to explain why we don't eat that, etc. But he just says " I

taste now " With a serious look on his face. He says it tastes

yummy, which makes my stomach turn. He has actually eaten it once

when we had a smearing incident and even then he claimed it was

yum! I am so worried. He's off to mainstream school next year. He

never has a bowel motion at kinder and I often think they don't

believe me when I tell them the trouble we are having at home. Any

advice guys? It's going to be hard enough to fit in at school

without this? As it is I montior him wiping himself and when he

goes to lick the paper I remind him we don't do that but I won't be

there next year.

> Beck

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Beck,

I forget where you live, but in some metropolitan areas, university

children's hospitals have clinics that deal with toileting issues.

Call the urology dept of your local children's hospital. I taught a

little girl who refused to use the toilet at all, and our local

children's hospital was very helpful to her and her family.

Liz

On Jul 20, 2006, at 3:25 AM, Mark son wrote:

> Sorry guys but there is no way to seek advice on this issue without

> making everyone feel a little unsettled in the tummy. My almost 6

> year old son seems intent on tasting his own waste products. I am

> trying to teach him to wipe himself but he always ends up arguing

> with me because I won't let him lick the toilet paper. I think I'm

> doing pretty well so far by keeping my cool and trying to explain

> why we don't eat that, etc. But he just says " I taste now " With a

> serious look on his face. He says it tastes yummy, which makes my

> stomach turn. He has actually eaten it once when we had a smearing

> incident and even then he claimed it was yum! I am so worried. He's

> off to mainstream school next year. He never has a bowel motion at

> kinder and I often think they don't believe me when I tell them the

> trouble we are having at home. Any advice guys? It's going to be

> hard enough to fit in at school without this? As it is I montior

> him wiping himself and when he goes to lick the paper I remind him

> we don't do that but I won't be there next year.

> Beck

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Thanks Liz, I'll look into it. i live in Australia.

Beck

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Beck,

I forget where you live, but in some metropolitan areas, university

children's hospitals have clinics that deal with toileting issues.

Call the urology dept of your local children's hospital. I taught a

little girl who refused to use the toilet at all, and our local

children's hospital was very helpful to her and her family.

Liz

On Jul 20, 2006, at 3:25 AM, Mark son wrote:

> Sorry guys but there is no way to seek advice on this issue without

> making everyone feel a little unsettled in the tummy. My almost 6

> year old son seems intent on tasting his own waste products. I am

> trying to teach him to wipe himself but he always ends up arguing

> with me because I won't let him lick the toilet paper. I think I'm

> doing pretty well so far by keeping my cool and trying to explain

> why we don't eat that, etc. But he just says " I taste now " With a

> serious look on his face. He says it tastes yummy, which makes my

> stomach turn. He has actually eaten it once when we had a smearing

> incident and even then he claimed it was yum! I am so worried. He's

> off to mainstream school next year. He never has a bowel motion at

> kinder and I often think they don't believe me when I tell them the

> trouble we are having at home. Any advice guys? It's going to be

> hard enough to fit in at school without this? As it is I montior

> him wiping himself and when he goes to lick the paper I remind him

> we don't do that but I won't be there next year.

> Beck

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My son definately leaves it to the last minute to go to the toilet and it has

taken us a long time to get him to realise that the pains in his tummy are a

sign that he needs to use the toilet. Some days he still forgets.

Beck

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My daughter is 5 and she has a problem simlair to that but she

doesn't eat it but she will not wipe her self with toleit paper she

always wants to use a towel then she wants to throw away the towel.

I have tried to explain to her thats what it is for and she argues

with me. Does your son have a problem when he urinates. She will

hold it. She will dance around and you ask her if she has to go and

she states no I just want to do this. She has complained of her

tummy hurting and I try to explain it to her and she aruges with me.

She hasn't been dx yet, but I know that things aren't right.

Thanks

>

> Sorry guys but there is no way to seek advice on this issue

without making everyone feel a little unsettled in the tummy. My

almost 6 year old son seems intent on tasting his own waste

products. I am trying to teach him to wipe himself but he always

ends up arguing with me because I won't let him lick the toilet

paper. I think I'm doing pretty well so far by keeping my cool and

trying to explain why we don't eat that, etc. But he just says " I

taste now " With a serious look on his face. He says it tastes

yummy, which makes my stomach turn. He has actually eaten it once

when we had a smearing incident and even then he claimed it was

yum! I am so worried. He's off to mainstream school next year. He

never has a bowel motion at kinder and I often think they don't

believe me when I tell them the trouble we are having at home. Any

advice guys? It's going to be hard enough to fit in at school

without this? As it is I montior him wiping himself and when he

goes to lick the paper I remind him we don't do that but I won't be

there next year.

> Beck

>

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My son is 5 1/2 and is on a time schedule. Once in a while he will run to the

bathroom yelling, got to go potty. We just hope he makes it there. Some times he

is cooperative and sometimes he fights us about going.

LEanne

Mark son <thejacobsons@...> wrote:

My son definately leaves it to the last minute to go to the toilet and

it has taken us a long time to get him to realise that the pains in his tummy

are a sign that he needs to use the toilet. Some days he still forgets.

Beck

( ) Re: bowel issues

My daughter is 5 and she has a problem simlair to that but she

doesn't eat it but she will not wipe her self with toleit paper she

always wants to use a towel then she wants to throw away the towel.

I have tried to explain to her thats what it is for and she argues

with me. Does your son have a problem when he urinates. She will

hold it. She will dance around and you ask her if she has to go and

she states no I just want to do this. She has complained of her

tummy hurting and I try to explain it to her and she aruges with me.

She hasn't been dx yet, but I know that things aren't right.

Thanks

>

> Sorry guys but there is no way to seek advice on this issue

without making everyone feel a little unsettled in the tummy. My

almost 6 year old son seems intent on tasting his own waste

products. I am trying to teach him to wipe himself but he always

ends up arguing with me because I won't let him lick the toilet

paper. I think I'm doing pretty well so far by keeping my cool and

trying to explain why we don't eat that, etc. But he just says " I

taste now " With a serious look on his face. He says it tastes

yummy, which makes my stomach turn. He has actually eaten it once

when we had a smearing incident and even then he claimed it was

yum! I am so worried. He's off to mainstream school next year. He

never has a bowel motion at kinder and I often think they don't

believe me when I tell them the trouble we are having at home. Any

advice guys? It's going to be hard enough to fit in at school

without this? As it is I montior him wiping himself and when he

goes to lick the paper I remind him we don't do that but I won't be

there next year.

> Beck

>

>

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There is a book on potty training kids with autism. You can usually search for

it on Amazon.com. " Toilet Training for Individuals with Autism and Related

Disorders " I think you might find some helpful ideas in there for this. Other

than that, I would just post a list of rules for going potty in the bathroom.

List each step he needs to do including the end in flushing and washing hands.

Then I would keep pushing him to follow the rules which leave no room for eating

anything.

Roxanna

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Sorry guys but there is no way to seek advice on this issue without making

everyone feel a little unsettled in the tummy. My almost 6 year old son seems

intent on tasting his own waste products. I am trying to teach him to wipe

himself but he always ends up arguing with me because I won't let him lick the

toilet paper. I think I'm doing pretty well so far by keeping my cool and trying

to explain why we don't eat that, etc. But he just says " I taste now " With a

serious look on his face. He says it tastes yummy, which makes my stomach turn.

He has actually eaten it once when we had a smearing incident and even then he

claimed it was yum! I am so worried. He's off to mainstream school next year. He

never has a bowel motion at kinder and I often think they don't believe me when

I tell them the trouble we are having at home. Any advice guys? It's going to be

hard enough to fit in at school without this? As it is I montior him wiping

himself and when he goes to lick the paper remind him we don't do that but I

won't be there next year.

Beck

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Luci,

We have battled diarrhea/loose stools with my son for four years. It

has improved significantly since starting him on HNI enzymes. He has

been GFCF since early August and that has helped, also. Dairy

products are completely out of the question, as is anything else that

is difficult to digest. Corn (cob or canned) and beans are

particularly bad for him. I must add, however, that our son is

adopted from Eastern Europe and had amoebic dysentery when we brought

him home. We don't know whether the dysentery did long term damage to

his system. We took him to a gastroenterologist at one of the leading

children's hospitals in the United States and the only thing he

suggested was probiotics. It wasn't until we started our son on HNI

enzymes that he FINALLY began having normal bowel movements (which

still are a bit soft, but much better that before).

Maureen

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Wow, how nice to hear. Gives me some hope.

We are expecting a new baby in 6 weeks (give or take) and it would be

really nice to have some improvement both in her temperment and the

bowel issues soon. Although I realize it may not be that quick...

Right now I can't even imagine how I'm going to handle both her and a

newborn. Does that sound terrible?

But I can't help it. By dinner time, I'm exhausted.

Good news, our enzymes arrived today! I'm so excited! They are just

in time.

Tomorrow is her b-day party...although I'm trying to make everything

as gfdf as possible, there will be some here and there.

I searched and searched for the organic lollipops and couldn't find

them anywhere...:(

Wish us luck!

Luci

>

> Luci,

>

> We have battled diarrhea/loose stools with my son for four years. It

> has improved significantly since starting him on HNI enzymes. He has

> been GFCF since early August and that has helped, also. Dairy

> products are completely out of the question, as is anything else that

> is difficult to digest. Corn (cob or canned) and beans are

> particularly bad for him. I must add, however, that our son is

> adopted from Eastern Europe and had amoebic dysentery when we brought

> him home. We don't know whether the dysentery did long term damage to

> his system. We took him to a gastroenterologist at one of the leading

> children's hospitals in the United States and the only thing he

> suggested was probiotics. It wasn't until we started our son on HNI

> enzymes that he FINALLY began having normal bowel movements (which

> still are a bit soft, but much better that before).

>

> Maureen

>

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> We ordered our HNI enzymes & no fenol...will this help with her b/m's?

> Should we be adding in a supplement?

Enzymes are usually helpful. There are other supplements that can

help if the enzymes don't, but enzymes are a good start.

Dana

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I heard some good feedback about Cincinati hospital for GI issues - apparently

they collaborate with Dr. Buie in Boston, but he does not take new patints.....

i have no contact number or name but if you call the hospital and ask for the GI

department or something like that, they may be able to give you more

information...

a good pediatrician may be able to diagnose and treat strep dont you think?

i am sorry i coulnt be any more help....an ask around on this group (biomedical)

biomedical-intervention-group (search on to sign up)

andrea

>

> My son has PANDAS and Aspergers and complsions and tics. We are seeing many

different specialists and meds have become necessary to help with behaviors and

compulsions and tics. My 7 year old son has started having bowel issues in Feb.

At the time we were trying different stimulant meds. I attributed it to the meds

so we stopped the stimulants. Now he is having loose BM accidents several times

a day when he doesn't even know until it is too late. His Bottom is very

irritated and sore. Does anyone know of a good GI ped Dr.? Is this a common ASP

issue? We are Akron/Canton area but see Dr's in Cleveland also. Also because of

recent tantrums and meltdowns/anger we are switching meds yet again. He has been

on Abilify 15 mg and celexa 20 mg. The Abilify seems to have worn off its

effect. Now his psychiatrist Dr. is switching him to Risperdal and

clonidine plus the Celexa. What can I expect? Will this cause more GI issues and

should I wait until I see a GI Dr to switch yet again? Dr. informed me

today he is leaving the outpatient so we will get yet another Dr. to explain our

long medical history to. Finding an OH Dr. to help with the PANDAS had been a

nightmare. Please let me know if you have any suggestions other then Dr. or

Dr. demio who do not take insurance.

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> Michele

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If you're at all open to the idea of dietary intervention... bowel issues and the autistic symptoms that result from them can be miraculously reverse by the GAPS diet http://gapsdiet.com/Home_Page.html . My son is 5, he was diagnosed with ASD less than 2 years ago and he now, no longer qualifies for special education and excels in a mainstream classroom. He is not totally recovered yet (he still has moments of negativity), but we're very close. We've been on the GAPS diet for about 9 months. Feel free to email me with any questions. I'll answer the one I can and point you in the right direction to find the answers I don't have. Its not easy to change you child's or family's diet or shopping habits. But it's a lot easier than watching your child suffer. I hope you have the ability to give it try. Good luck to you and your family.

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Have you ever seen a psychologist that specializes in bowel/urinary issues?

There is one at the Cleveland Clinic CHildren's Hospital for Rehabilitation

named Gerard Banez. Here is his contact info:

http://my.clevelandclinic.org/staff_directory/3/Staff_2996.aspx

Hope this helps!

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> My son has PANDAS and Aspergers and complsions and tics. We are seeing many

different specialists and meds have become necessary to help with behaviors and

compulsions and tics. My 7 year old son has started having bowel issues in Feb.

At the time we were trying different stimulant meds. I attributed it to the meds

so we stopped the stimulants. Now he is having loose BM accidents several times

a day when he doesn't even know until it is too late. His Bottom is very

irritated and sore. Does anyone know of a good GI ped Dr.? Is this a common ASP

issue? We are Akron/Canton area but see Dr's in Cleveland also. Also because of

recent tantrums and meltdowns/anger we are switching meds yet again. He has been

on Abilify 15 mg and celexa 20 mg. The Abilify seems to have worn off its

effect. Now his psychiatrist Dr. is switching him to Risperdal and

clonidine plus the Celexa. What can I expect? Will this cause more GI issues and

should I wait until I see a GI Dr to switch yet again? Dr. informed me

today he is leaving the outpatient so we will get yet another Dr. to explain our

long medical history to. Finding an OH Dr. to help with the PANDAS had been a

nightmare. Please let me know if you have any suggestions other then Dr. or

Dr. demio who do not take insurance.

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> Michele

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