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Hi Kellie!! Welcome to the group. I'm in Oklahoma so I don't have any

experience with CT in Burbank, however, the DOCband is an excellent product

and it is very, very rare that you will hear anyone say anything but good

things about it. We do have a number of members who have used or are using

the CT in Burbank so hopefully one of them will respond.

Good luck and I look forward to hearing some more of your story in the weeks

and months to come!

Marci (Mom to )

Oklahoma

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Hi Kellie & welcome to our group!

A lot of our members have used the Cranial Therapies in Burbank - I

hope they will read your post & reply to you with some of their

personal experiences. Check out www.cranialtech.com if you haven't

already, that's who will be making Sofia's new band!

It sounds like you are very well educated about plagio & have already

done a lot of research. Good for you! Sofia is at a great younger

age to begin her DOC treatment - I am sure you'll be pleased with her

results.

I hope you don't have any trouble getting your ins. to pay. If they

do deny coverage, my advice is to appeal & appeal. Don't give up! A

lot of our members are currently fighting with their ins. companies.

I hope you're ins. will pay w/o any trouble.

It sounds like Sofia's tort. has already improved with her therapy.

I'm glad you like her therapist! It makes things so much easier &

pleasant.

Please let us know when you are able to get Sofia casted & what your

insurance has to say. Best of luck with everything, we look forward

to hearing more from you. Keep us updated!

Debbie Abby's mom DOCGrad

MI

> Hi. Thank you for such an informative site. I have already found

> articles and information that will aid both my husband and I in our

> pursuing a helmet for our daughter. Sofia will be 6 months old next

> tuesday. She has been going to PT twice a week for Torticollis for

> about a month now. We have seen progress since then and are pleased

> with the therapists. Now, we are to go see an orthotist for a

> helmet.We live in Thousand Oaks, california and were referred to

> Cranial Therapies in Burbank? I wanted to know if anyone has used

them

> and what they thought. We are waiting to hear from them regarding

> insurance and then we are to proceed. I am anxious about the whole

> process, but know it will help Sofia down the road.

>

> I would love to hear from any of the moms and dads. I am hoping to

> begin reading some of the archived messages and explore the web

site a

> bit more.

>

> thanks again,

>

> kellie cruz

> T.O California daughter: sofia

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Check out www.cranialtech.com if you haven't already, that's who will be making Sofia's new band!

I think cranial therapies has their own website as well! Check www.cranialtherapies.com

Kendra

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Hi Kellie & welcome to our group!A lot of our members have used the Cranial Therapies in Burbank - I hope they will read your post & reply to you with some of their personal experiences. Check out www.cranialtech.com if you haven't already, that's who will be making Sofia's new band! It sounds like you are very well educated about plagio & have already done a lot of research. Good for you! Sofia is at a great younger age to begin her DOC treatment - I am sure you'll be pleased with her results. I hope you don't have any trouble getting your ins. to pay. If they do deny coverage, my advice is to appeal & appeal. Don't give up! A lot of our members are currently fighting with their ins. companies. I hope you're ins. will pay w/o any trouble.It sounds like Sofia's tort. has already improved with her therapy. I'm glad you like her therapist! It makes things so much easier & pleasant.Please let us know when you are able to get Sofia casted & what your insurance has to say. Best of luck with everything, we look forward to hearing more from you. Keep us updated!Debbie Abby's mom DOCGradMI> Hi. Thank you for such an informative site. I have already found> articles and information that will aid both my husband and I in our> pursuing a helmet for our daughter. Sofia will be 6 months old next> tuesday. She has been going to PT twice a week for Torticollis for> about a month now. We have seen progress since then and are pleased> with the therapists. Now, we are to go see an orthotist for a> helmet.We live in Thousand Oaks, california and were referred to> Cranial Therapies in Burbank? I wanted to know if anyone has used them> and what they thought. We are waiting to hear from them regarding> insurance and then we are to proceed. I am anxious about the whole> process, but know it will help Sofia down the road.> > I would love to hear from any of the moms and dads. I am hoping to> begin reading some of the archived messages and explore the web site a> bit more.> > thanks again,> > kellie cruz> T.O California daughter: sofiaFor more plagio info

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Hi Kellie and welcome to the group! Sofia is at an excellent age to

see great results from a band. I'm glad to see that Jill has replied

to you since she went to the same clinic you will be going to. Who

is your insurance carrier? In our database section of our homepage

is an are where you can see what types of insurance compnies have

covered the bands, and who hasn't. Good luck to you and Sofia, be

sure to keep us up to date!

Niki

Kaylie & Danny (STAR grads)

Phila., PA

> Hi. Thank you for such an informative site. I have already found

> articles and information that will aid both my husband and I in our

> pursuing a helmet for our daughter. Sofia will be 6 months old next

> tuesday. She has been going to PT twice a week for Torticollis for

> about a month now. We have seen progress since then and are pleased

> with the therapists. Now, we are to go see an orthotist for a

> helmet.We live in Thousand Oaks, california and were referred to

> Cranial Therapies in Burbank? I wanted to know if anyone has used

them

> and what they thought. We are waiting to hear from them regarding

> insurance and then we are to proceed. I am anxious about the whole

> process, but know it will help Sofia down the road.

>

> I would love to hear from any of the moms and dads. I am hoping to

> begin reading some of the archived messages and explore the web

site a

> bit more.

>

> thanks again,

>

> kellie cruz

> T.O California daughter: sofia

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Hi Sara,

It's not to late if your interested in banding/helmet therapy. Many members have had good results after one year- Cranial Tech bands up to two years old as that is when the skull has finished hardening. I will attach their web site for you, although there are many different local places, as well as the STARband products to choose from- I'm sure you'll get tons of info from everyone on these! Good luck! If I can help in anyway, please let me know!

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Cranial Technologies

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Hi & welcome to our group!

We're glad you have found us! Unfortunately, SO many pediatricians

give us all the " their head will round out on it's own " story. Some

babies heads might, but not all will.

You definitely still have time to get correction for your daughter's

head shape! My daughter, Abby, didn't begin her DOCband therapy

until she was 11.5 mos old. Abby's plagio was considered severe, but

we were still able to get good correction with one band in 4.5 mos

time! We are thrilled with Abby's results. Where abouts do you

live? You can visit Cranial Technology's webpage at

www.cranialtech.net . If you are near any of their locations, most

offices offer free evaluations of children's plagio.

Has your pediatrician referred you to a specialist yet? Most of us

in the group have been referred to a specialist for an evaluation

from them prior to receiving a band/helmet.

Check out this website for a lot of great information regarding

plagio:

http://www.plagiocephaly.org/support

If you go to the " before & after " section in that website, you can

see my daughter's photos, she's the last baby's head you'll see on

that page.

There's a ton of great information about plagio on that sight!

Welcome again to our group.

Please keep us updated on your daughter & what you might decide to

do.

Debbie Abby's mom 3/1/00 DOCgrad 2/16/01-6/22/01

MI

> Hi everyone!

> I just signed up to be a member of this group. I'm realizing so

many

> things right now. My baby girl's ped. kept saying that her head

would

> round out on its own over time, and that we shouldn't be

> worried...I'm devastated.....my baby is now almost one year old,

and

> is it now too late to get her a head band? The right side of her

head

> is really flat, and her ear is sticking out.......I have to look

for

> more information about this. Maybe there's still time to do

something

> about it. I hope so.

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Hi Sara welcome to the group you have found a wonderful resource here. You still have time for treatment, We have other moms that have used helmet therapy at 12 months and have seen improvement although it is slower it can still be effective. Time is of the essence though. Where are you located? I am going to attach some links to hopefullyhelp you out and give you more info. Please don't hesitate to ask any questions-it sounds like you are a great mommy so keep up the work and doing what isbest for your baby girl. Please share more about yourself when you have time!

beck Mom to and

doc grad

Memphis

Click here: Plagiocephaly Information Web

Click here: Orthomerica - The Global Orthotic Solution

Click here: Parent Support

Click here: Find a Preferred Physician: Search by Location

Click here: Compare cranial molding orthosis (CMO)

Click here: Cranial Technologies, Inc., Manufacturer of the DOC Band for Positional Plagiocephaly

Click here: Plagiocephaly Information Center - Cranial Technologies, Inc.

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---Hi!! My daughter la just was banded and she is 11 months.

After only a little over a week we see some slight changes!!! I say

definitely there is still time to do something about it. Have your

ped. refer you to a neurosurgeon or a Cranial facial surgeon. They

will diagnose and prescribe most likely a DOC band. If your ped. says

she fine and does not need it, be persistant!!!! Mine said the same

and I finally demanded a referral.Good Luck~~ & la

In Plagiocephaly@y..., " sara_k_cox " <sara_k_cox@y...> wrote:

> Hi everyone!

> I just signed up to be a member of this group. I'm realizing so

many

> things right now. My baby girl's ped. kept saying that her head

would

> round out on its own over time, and that we shouldn't be

> worried...I'm devastated.....my baby is now almost one year old,

and

> is it now too late to get her a head band? The right side of her

head

> is really flat, and her ear is sticking out.......I have to look

for

> more information about this. Maybe there's still time to do

something

> about it. I hope so.

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Hi Sara and welcome! It is not too late to band your baby!!! We have soooo

many members here who banded their babies at 12 months and older and had some

really good results. Where are you located? You might check out

www.cranialtech.com to see if there is a CT clinic near you (they make the

DOCband) or www.orthomerica.com (they make the STARband). An active band like

one of those would best for your " older " baby.

I'm sure you have already gotten some great responses (I'm really behind on

posts!), but let us know if we can help you any more!

Marci (Mom to )

Oklahoma

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In a message dated 5/30/2002 4:02:34 PM US Mountain Standard Time, marcisch@... writes:

Hi Sara and welcome! It is not too late to band your baby!!! We have soooo many members here who banded their babies at 12 months and older and had some really good results. Where are you located? You might check out www.cranialtech.com to see if there is a CT clinic near you (they make the

I'm sorry...I think I may have misled you. My two and a half year old is a DOC band graduate (yay) but my six week old is now looking like she may need one too. I probably sound like a paranoid mom, but my pediatrician actually brought it up to me at Abigail's last visit. The funny thing is, she was very cavalier about my first daughter's lopsided head. I think she's probably seeing more of it and it has really opened her eyes.

Maybe I should take this time to properly introduce myself ...My name is and my husband Pat and I have two girls - Madison is 2 1/2 and is the DOC Band grad. Abigail is 6 weeks and it's her head I'm worried about. I'm trying all kinds of repositioning and really appreciated the website with all the tips. I'm trying to be so militant about this, but it's hard. Hey, by the way, I'm sitting here watching the news (as I type) and they are doing a story on DOC Bands! How wild is that??? (I'm in Tucson - Channel 13 KOLD)

Well, that's about it. I must say that all the info is amazing. What a community this has become. I was a member of this e-list two years ago when Maddie was wearing her Band and it was great then, but wow! It's amazing now. To everyone who has contributed and spent long hours putting this together: Way to go! You're helping so many families!

- Mom to Madison and Abigail

Tucson, AZ

Proud Member Rescue A Golden of Arizona

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In a message dated 5/30/2002 6:25:27 PM US Mountain Standard Time, dj2kirby@... writes:

Are you repositioning Abigail at all? Have you been to www.plagiocephaly.org/support website for tips?

Yes to both questions. I have been pretty vigilant about this and am hoping it will help. The site was very helpful. I'm grateful for all of this info!

thru this already so I'm sure you know what to do and expect.

That's freaky that there was a news story on your station about DOCbands.....one of our group members had a story air in TX about her twins in their DOCbands...it wasn't about Sam & Sara was it by chance???

I don't think so. I just caught the last bit and it was quite short. I think they were profiling a child here in Tucson. I'm amazed at how many more children are diagnosed with this!

Again welcome......we look forward to hearing more from you.

Debbie Abby's mom DOCGrad

Thanks for the welcome and great name! VBG

- Mom to Madison and Abbey

Tucson, AZ

Proud Member Rescue A Golden of Arizona

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Sooo sorry for the confusion. I guess I should say welcome back! Good luck

with the repositioning - with such an early start you should have some really

good luck with that.

Marci (Mom to )

Oklahoma

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In a message dated 5/30/2002 8:54:13 PM US Mountain Standard Time, marcisch@... writes:

with such an early start you should have some really good luck with that.

Thanks Marci! We're hoping it will help.

- Mom to Madison and Abbey

Tucson, AZ

Proud Member Rescue A Golden of Arizona

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Hi Sara:

You & I have already 'talked' a bit thru personal emails, but I

wanted to welcome you & I'm glad to see you figured out how to post!

Congradulations to Madison for being a DOCband graduate.

I am sure you are quite concerned about Abigail's (love the name!,

hehe) headshape after all you've already been thru with Madison.

Lord knows IF I ever have another I'll be so obsessed with the head,

the poor kid won't have a chance :). Especially though if your ped.

brought it up to you :(.

Are you repositioning Abigail at all? Have you been to

www.plagiocephaly.org/support website for tips? I know you've been

thru this already so I'm sure you know what to do and expect.

That's freaky that there was a news story on your station about

DOCbands.....one of our group members had a story air in TX about her

twins in their DOCbands...it wasn't about Sam & Sara was it by

chance???

Again welcome......we look forward to hearing more from you.

Debbie Abby's mom DOCGrad

MI

>

> I'm sorry...I think I may have misled you. My two and a half year

old is a

> DOC band graduate (yay) but my six week old is now looking like she

may need

> one too. I probably sound like a paranoid mom, but my pediatrician

actually

> brought it up to me at Abigail's last visit. The funny thing is,

she was

> very cavalier about my first daughter's lopsided head. I think

she's

> probably seeing more of it and it has really opened her eyes.

> Maybe I should take this time to properly introduce myself ...My

name is

> and my husband Pat and I have two girls - Madison is 2 1/2

and is the

> DOC Band grad. Abigail is 6 weeks and it's her head I'm worried

about. I'm

> trying all kinds of repositioning and really appreciated the

website with all

> the tips. I'm trying to be so militant about this, but it's hard.

Hey, by

> the way, I'm sitting here watching the news (as I type) and they

are doing a

> story on DOC Bands! How wild is that??? (I'm in Tucson - Channel

13 KOLD)

> Well, that's about it. I must say that all the info is amazing.

What a

> community this has become. I was a member of this e-list two years

ago when

> Maddie was wearing her Band and it was great then, but wow! It's

amazing

> now. To everyone who has contributed and spent long hours putting

this

> together: Way to go! You're helping so many families!

>

> - Mom to Madison and Abigail

> Tucson, AZ

> Proud Member Rescue A Golden of Arizona

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Hi . Welcome to the group. You are going to get some awesome advice, I know, but I just wanted to chime in and say hello and maybe a few pointers.

Flat heads in babies is happening everywhere now due to babies sleeping on their backs to prevent SIDS. I noticed my son's flatness on the right side of his head when he was a little over two months. I noticed it while looking in the mirror at him. Unfortunately, I listened to the advice of his pediatrician, who told me that it is normal, that they're seeing it all the time due to back-sleeping, and not to worry. It will round out on its own. So at the time, being a 22-year-old first time mom, I listened, because I figured they would know better than I. Never a mention about repositioning, nothing about tummy time. So I continued to let him sleep on his right side like he preferred. My son did not like to turn his head to left, which we later found out was due to mild torticollis, which is a tightening in a muscle in the side of the neck they seem to be avoiding. That requires PT or some exercises you can do at home to get them trained to turn their head to the other side. My son seemed to work his own out once he reached the age of being able to sit up and crawl.

Anyway, my point is, there is a 99.9 percent chance that upon seeing your child's ped, you will be told what many here have been told: "You are overreacting. No one's head is perfect. It will round out on its own." The fact is that many pediatricians are not educated enough about this subject, and that is why we have many members, like myself, not getting treatment started until close to 12 months of age, which, although still effective, is not as effective as it would be if the child had been treated earlier.

If you see a dr about your son's head, be prepared to stick to your guns if your gut is telling you that it isn't right. It all comes down to what you want for your son. Don't let a dr dismiss you the way I was. It is unfortunate that at the time I didn't realize that drs are not perfect and are in no way gods.

I would continue to give your son supervised tummy time during the day. Most babies don't like it at first. There are Boppy tummy time products you can buy that will help them prop up and look at things and have little rattle-like toys attached. Also, try repositioning him at night when he sleeps. There are several techniques. I used a big rolled up towel wrapped in a blanket and propped it under his right shoulder, the plagio side, which caused his head to roll to the other side. You may receive great results at your son's age with repositioning, but by the time a doctor with a clue told me to reposition, my son was almost seven months and he had a mind of his own when it came to sleeping.

So with that, welcome again, and I know you're going to get some great advice that isn't all jumbled up like mine. it's hard to organize so many different thoughts without rambling for pages! : ) Good luck to you! You are in the best time right now to fix this!

Kellie, mom of , 16 1/2 months

Lacey, WA

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Hello and welcome. I think you are doing just right by trying to increase

tummy time. Is he flat on one side? Does his head tilt or does he have

trouble look to one side? Since he is so young, I think you would have some

great success with repositioning. You can check out

www.plagiocephaly.org/support - there you will find a link for repositioning

tips and tons of other good info on plagio.

It wouldn't hurt to mention it to your ped the next time you are there. I'm

glad you have joined us and hope that you will stick with us.

Marci (mom to )

Oklahoma

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Hi ,

Welcome to the group! I see you have already gotten some great advice from

Kellie (awesome post!) and I would just like to add that sometimes plagio is

caused or progressed by torticollis (a tight neck muscle). I have found in

talking with several moms here and at pt, that a lot of Doctors don't spot

torticollis right away, they may even diagnose the plagio (flatness) first,

although the torticollis may be the underlying cause of the plagio. Has your

child shown any signs of favoring one side? Is he able to rotate his head

fully to both sides? Does his head tilt to one side? Some of these

questions may apply even to a child without tort, and I only bring it up to

make you aware of this condition. In the event these answers are yes, tort

is usually muscular and can be treated with physical therapy. Address any

concerns you have with your ped at the 4 month check up- and sooner if you

really think this is an issue.

You have lots of time on your side for repositioning to work for you- and it

has for some parents- and not for others (myself included in the latter). If

your son's case is mild and there is no facial asymmetry, its my opinion that

respositioning can really work for you. Its not always easy to keep them off

that flat spot though, and Kellie gave you some really good tips for that.

You can also check the database as well. You can try using a mirror, or

putting him on the bed while your on the floor looking up at him- my son

seemed to tolerate tummy time better this way too. Good luck and please keep

us posted on how your repositioning efforts are going!

' Mom

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Have you tried the Boppy Tummy Time Mat? My son refused to be on

his tummy unless he was on that. With the mat, he would tolerate it

for about 5 minutes (5 minutes better than nothing!) I would suggest

carrying your son around in a sling or a baby carrier to keep him

off the flat spot. I recommend a maya wrap (mayawrap.com).

Repositioning can help a ton at his age. We saw repositioning

improvement with my son's flat spot, but his facial asymmetry was

quite stubborn :)

Good luck and congrats on your little nugget!

Dane's mom DOC Grad

-- In Plagiocephaly@y..., " still_ingodzhndz " <InGodzHndz@j...> wrote:

> Hi all, my name is , and I am the proud mama of a 12 week

> old baby boy.

> Just last week, I noticed that part of his head is getting a

little

> flat....we haven't seen a doctor, and I'm hoping that giving him

more

> tummy time will correct it.

> any ideas from any of you?

> I have been having him take a few naps on his tummy.....(always

when

> I'm awake and around to check him out)

> but he hates laying on his tummy to play or anything. Though this

> morning, I did notice that he was lifting his head and legs up

> more...and is close to turning over.

>

> I think that's it!

> =)

> ~

>

>

>

>

>

>

> .

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Hi :

Welcome to the group! We're glad to have you.

Your son is at a good younger age for you to have noticed his plagio

& to increase supervised tummy time as well as repositioning to keep

him off his flat side.

Most infants don't like tummy time at all! It can be such a stuggle

to keep your child happy while on their tummy. Hopefully though,

with every day of tummy time, your child will get more & more used to

it. We have links to several products for tummy time & repositioning

in our " bookmarks " section of our group. Check that out to find some

great & helpful products. Hopefully other parents can help you there

too, my daughter is over 2 so many new products have come out

recently!

Also for great repositioning tips check out:

http://www.plagiocephaly.org/support then click " repositioning

tips " .

What area of your son's head is getting flat?

Welcome again to our group. Good luck with tummy time. Please keep

us updated on progress.

Debbie Abby's mom DOCGrad

MI

> Hi all, my name is , and I am the proud mama of a 12 week

> old baby boy.

> Just last week, I noticed that part of his head is getting a little

> flat....we haven't seen a doctor, and I'm hoping that giving him

more

> tummy time will correct it.

> any ideas from any of you?

> I have been having him take a few naps on his tummy.....(always

when

> I'm awake and around to check him out)

> but he hates laying on his tummy to play or anything. Though this

> morning, I did notice that he was lifting his head and legs up

> more...and is close to turning over.

>

> I think that's it!

> =)

> ~

>

>

>

>

>

>

> .

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Hi all,

just has a small flat spot on the back of his head...it's kinda off

to his right side. I have been giving him more tummy time, lay him on

his side for sleeping, and got a pillow type of thing that is supposed to

help with plagiocephaly. At least it's supposed to help prevent it. I'm

not sure about correcting it.

I am definitelyy going to mention it to his doctor (though we see her in

a month!).

Thanks to everyone that replied!

(just an fyi, I didn't get all the messages to my mailbox, including the

one I sent. I had to go to the website to read them)

=)

~

On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 14:06:55 EDT marcisch@... writes:

> ,

>

> Hello and welcome. I think you are doing just right by trying to

> increase

> tummy time. Is he flat on one side? Does his head tilt or does he

> have

> trouble look to one side? Since he is so young, I think you would

> have some

> great success with repositioning. You can check out

> www.plagiocephaly.org/support - there you will find a link for

> repositioning

> tips and tons of other good info on plagio.

>

> It wouldn't hurt to mention it to your ped the next time you are

> there. I'm

> glad you have joined us and hope that you will stick with us.

>

> Marci (mom to )

> Oklahoma

>

>

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Thanks for the info! He is fully able to turn his head to either side

and it doesn't tilt at all.

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On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:10:40 EDT rella1234@... writes:

> Hi ,

> Welcome to the group! I see you have already gotten some great

> advice from

> Kellie (awesome post!) and I would just like to add that sometimes

> plagio is

> caused or progressed by torticollis (a tight neck muscle). I have

> found in

> talking with several moms here and at pt, that a lot of Doctors

> don't spot

> torticollis right away, they may even diagnose the plagio (flatness)

> first,

> although the torticollis may be the underlying cause of the plagio.

> Has your

> child shown any signs of favoring one side? Is he able to rotate

> his head

> fully to both sides? Does his head tilt to one side? Some of these

>

> questions may apply even to a child without tort, and I only bring

> it up to

> make you aware of this condition. In the event these answers are

> yes, tort

> is usually muscular and can be treated with physical therapy.

> Address any

> concerns you have with your ped at the 4 month check up- and sooner

> if you

> really think this is an issue.

> You have lots of time on your side for repositioning to work for

> you- and it

> has for some parents- and not for others (myself included in the

> latter). If

> your son's case is mild and there is no facial asymmetry, its my

> opinion that

> respositioning can really work for you. Its not always easy to keep

> them off

> that flat spot though, and Kellie gave you some really good tips for

> that.

> You can also check the database as well. You can try using a

> mirror, or

> putting him on the bed while your on the floor looking up at him- my

> son

> seemed to tolerate tummy time better this way too. Good luck and

> please keep

> us posted on how your repositioning efforts are going!

>

> ' Mom

>

> For more plagio info

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Hello all, I am Angel, joyful wife to Jim, and mother to 9 blessings. I

heard of this group many times from Lynn R. and finally came over to see

what it is about. I have a small farm, 4 milch cows, and 3 goats in

milch, pigs, calves, chickens, etc.....and we try to eat healthy, I have

been browsing NT for a while now, cannot seem to find enough time to

read it through, so just try to glean what I can at present. I have not

gotten to the eating of raw meat, but do consume lots of raw dairy,

yogurts, cheeses, etc. and lots of fresh veges. I am thankful to be able

to access so much info on the internet, and glad that you accepted

me...thanks....

Angel

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> I just want to introduce myself to the group. I just got Sally

> Fallon's cookbook last week and I can't put it down.

Welcome, ! Whereabouts are you?

Best,

Lynn

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The New Homemaker: http://www.newhomemaker.com/

Siprelle & Associates: http://www.siprelle.com/

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Hello Lynn,

I am located in Western New York. Is there anyone in the same area?

Re: new member

> I just want to introduce myself to the group. I just got Sally

> Fallon's cookbook last week and I can't put it down.

Welcome, ! Whereabouts are you?

Best,

Lynn

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Lynn Siprelle * Writer, Mother, Programmer, Fiber Artisan

The New Homemaker: http://www.newhomemaker.com/

Siprelle & Associates: http://www.siprelle.com/

People-Powered ! http://www.deanforamerica.com/

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