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Hi Stehpanie

-its the dr. kuri board. i'm still there everyday. i get the

digest and respond whenever i feel i can make a difference, but my

remarks are often not what the poster desired and i get the flack.

currently and for the last two weeks, i had addressed someone who

was complaining about the horrors of band life and used another

example of a friend who was banded 7 years ago who had a slip. her

posting was so negative and unbalanced i felt compelled to add my two

cents, which were primarily that the picture she was paingting was

lopsided and since there were a lot of newbies and soon to be's on

the board, it would be better to provide a more balanced view, even

when asking for help for a certain problem and acknowledging that in

any endeavor such as banding, there going to be bumps in the road.

her venomous response was entitled " EXCUSE ME , GEORGE??????? " (In

much bolder type).

since then there have been about 50 comments on the board, not

necessarily pertaining to this issue, but sent as a response to that

title. " EXCUSE ME GEORGE " Its hilarious, when i think about it.

one person even said that the moderators should bar me from the site.

(i'm not going to mention marylin dempsey's name, though)

truth be told, since SandyR isn't there too often anymore, i'm the

only one who doesn't coddle the whiners.

so that's the story. it simply amazes me that some people think

support means getting a pat on the back, when true support helps make

a difference. you know, if someone loses someone close, that

deserves a pat on the back, in sympathy and support, but if they use

that loss to justify eating out of control, a pat on the back is

damaging not helpful. and that's how i see the differentiation.

and all this, in my never humble opinion. LOL (I stole that line

from dr. laura)

george

-- In , " bear2travel "

<bear2travel@...> wrote:

>

> ,

>

> No argument or flaming from me. But I am curious about " the other

> board " I keep hearing about. What is it?--if only to keep me from

> accidentally joining it ;-) you can tell me privately if you'd

prefer.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

> >

> > i agree that counseling is a good thing, particularly when bad

> > behavior is chronic.

> >

> > however, we mustn't use counseling to navel gaze, or as a safety

net

> > to delay starting the work on our health.

> >

>

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And here I thought someone was referring to " the other board " as in

SmartBandsters, as opposed to .

Sandy and I and many others who are here are/were members there. They have

about four times as many members and there are LOTS of msgs every day. There

are also some anal compulsive whiners there who are generally in charge. Sandy

and I are both banned from there due to not letting whiners get away with all

the crap that they dump. Show up, suit up, shut up, follow directions. And

quit your bitching. Well, they didn't like that.

The only other " problem " there is that there are many not yet banded folks who

have lots of questions. Well, that is important for them to be able to do that,

but we decided to have a place where it was ONLY for those who already had a

band (well, for at least a couple hours). So here we are.

dan

" Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. "

-- Will

www.mylapband.tk or www.riverofdata.com

Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA

Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/27/03

355/323/210/190

Re: Issues

>Hi Stehpanie

>-its the dr. kuri board. i'm still there everyday. i get the

>digest and respond whenever i feel i can make a difference, but my

>remarks are often not what the poster desired and i get the flack.

>currently and for the last two weeks, i had addressed someone who

>was complaining about the horrors of band life and used another

>example of a friend who was banded 7 years ago who had a slip. her

>posting was so negative and unbalanced i felt compelled to add my two

>cents, which were primarily that the picture she was paingting was

>lopsided and since there were a lot of newbies and soon to be's on

>the board, it would be better to provide a more balanced view, even

>when asking for help for a certain problem and acknowledging that in

>any endeavor such as banding, there going to be bumps in the road.

>her venomous response was entitled " EXCUSE ME , GEORGE??????? " (In

>much bolder type).

>since then there have been about 50 comments on the board, not

>necessarily pertaining to this issue, but sent as a response to that

>title. " EXCUSE ME GEORGE " Its hilarious, when i think about it.

>one person even said that the moderators should bar me from the site.

>(i'm not going to mention marylin dempsey's name, though)

>truth be told, since SandyR isn't there too often anymore, i'm the

>only one who doesn't coddle the whiners.

>so that's the story. it simply amazes me that some people think

>support means getting a pat on the back, when true support helps make

>a difference. you know, if someone loses someone close, that

>deserves a pat on the back, in sympathy and support, but if they use

>that loss to justify eating out of control, a pat on the back is

>damaging not helpful. and that's how i see the differentiation.

>and all this, in my never humble opinion. LOL (I stole that line

>from dr. laura)

>george

>-- In , " bear2travel "

><bear2travel@...> wrote:

>>

>> ,

>>

>> No argument or flaming from me. But I am curious about " the other

>> board " I keep hearing about. What is it?--if only to keep me from

>> accidentally joining it ;-) you can tell me privately if you'd

>prefer.

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>>

>>

>> >

>> > i agree that counseling is a good thing, particularly when bad

>> > behavior is chronic.

>> >

>> > however, we mustn't use counseling to navel gaze, or as a safety

>net

>> > to delay starting the work on our health.

>> >

>>

>

>

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Dan, you are so right about the " other " board! I had joined and it was

MANDATORY that I had to receive each and every message that was posted

individually instead of a digest. Well the first day and hubby had a fit

because he came home from work and there were 96 messages! I switched the

email address to my , and it was such a hassle to read each and every

message individually that I dropped after 5 days! I can see what you mean

about " anal " , also, most of that board seems to be situated in Northern

California, Oregon, and Washington. Not much use to me unless I plan a

vacation and plan on staying for a few months! So.since I am getting the

band on Thursday, can I stay until then? I promise not to ask a bunch of

stupid questions! I have done enough homework just reading through the

archives for my questions that I don't feel the need to ask anything

ridiculous on this board.

Please don't kick me out of the clubhouse yet! I promise to have my lunch

money to give you on Thursday!! :-) Misty

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Hi, Misty ! You're very welcome! all the other forums also

have an option to receive daily digests or no rmails at all if you

prefer. Most other boards do too. It's in the " edit my membership "

area.

Any and all questions are welcome here, if people are banded. we just

felt that with a smaller and more personal board, that we didn't want

to spend time with all the pre-band questions like " what is a

fill? " " Should I get a band or a bypass? "

W're here for people who are already committed to banding. We also

know that we have to forget all the excuses. Between Dan and me, I'm

sure we have personally used every one of them to excuse our weight

and other problems.

No more excuses! We have to take responsibility for our own actions

and their outcomes. We have all gotten into very serious trouble with

our wt becuase of all the excuses.

So now it's time to face the facts and make the needed changes.

We'll help all we can, even though what we feel we need to say

sometimes is not always easy to hear.

Sandy R

-

-- In , " Mike and Misty Doroshow "

<doroshow@...> wrote:

>

> Dan, you are so right about the " other " board! I had joined and it

was

> MANDATORY that I had to receive each and every message that was

posted

> individually instead of a digest. Well the first day and hubby had

a fit

> because he came home from work and there were 96 messages! I

switched the

> email address to my , and it was such a hassle to read each

and every

> message individually that I dropped after 5 days! I can see what

you mean

> about " anal " , also, most of that board seems to be situated in

Northern

> California, Oregon, and Washington. Not much use to me unless I

plan a

> vacation and plan on staying for a few months! So.since I am

getting the

> band on Thursday, can I stay until then? I promise not to ask a

bunch of

> stupid questions! I have done enough homework just reading through

the

> archives for my questions that I don't feel the need to ask anything

> ridiculous on this board.

>

>

>

> Please don't kick me out of the clubhouse yet! I promise to have my

lunch

> money to give you on Thursday!! :-) Misty

>

>

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It isn't mandatory to receive each and every e mail, you can always read the

posts on the website. I believe that both boards have their purpose. I stay on

the Kuri site just to help the new people that have questions, to be there for

them like someone was there for me when I was new. When you are new it is

helpful to read experiences from people that are going through the same things.

Although I do miss the posts from Sandy, she is so knowledgeable and helpful, I

still enjoy helping the newbies out on that site. I do get the individual

emails and it usually is about ten to fifteen a day, sometimes just a few and

sometimes more.

Mike and Misty Doroshow <doroshow@...> wrote:

Dan, you are so right about the " other " board! I had joined and it was

MANDATORY that I had to receive each and every message that was posted

individually instead of a digest. Well the first day and hubby had a fit

because he came home from work and there were 96 messages! I switched the

email address to my , and it was such a hassle to read each and every

message individually that I dropped after 5 days! I can see what you mean

about " anal " , also, most of that board seems to be situated in Northern

California, Oregon, and Washington. Not much use to me unless I plan a

vacation and plan on staying for a few months! So.since I am getting the

band on Thursday, can I stay until then? I promise not to ask a bunch of

stupid questions! I have done enough homework just reading through the

archives for my questions that I don't feel the need to ask anything

ridiculous on this board.

Please don't kick me out of the clubhouse yet! I promise to have my lunch

money to give you on Thursday!! :-) Misty

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Hi Elaine, it is mandatory to read each and every email or else she

won't approve you to join the group. I chose the " daily digest " like

I do for all the groups and she automatically changes it to all

emails. If you choose " no email " she will decline your membership.

She is worried about spammers or something but it is just neurotic

and controlling to me. Life is too short for that. Also there are

these numerous, numerous rules that have to be followed or you are

kicked out out of the gang.

Misty

> Dan, you are so right about the " other " board! I had

joined and it was

> MANDATORY that I had to receive each and every message that was

posted

> individually instead of a digest. Well the first day and hubby had

a fit

> because he came home from work and there were 96 messages! I

switched the

> email address to my , and it was such a hassle to read each

and every

> message individually that I dropped after 5 days! I can see what

you mean

> about " anal " , also, most of that board seems to be situated in

Northern

> California, Oregon, and Washington. Not much use to me unless I

plan a

> vacation and plan on staying for a few months! So.since I am

getting the

> band on Thursday, can I stay until then? I promise not to ask a

bunch of

> stupid questions! I have done enough homework just reading through

the

> archives for my questions that I don't feel the need to ask anything

> ridiculous on this board.

>

> Please don't kick me out of the clubhouse yet! I promise to have my

lunch

> money to give you on Thursday!! :-) Misty

>

>

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Hi Sandy, I like that attitude and believe me, that is what I need!

No excuses! My main fear about being banded on Thursday is my

tendency to " graze " . A nibble here, a bite there, etc. The calories

really add up and are filling. My mother does the same thing and we

haven't lived together for 24 years! Hubby is going to help me with

that to make it a conscious behavior because I really don't realize

that I am doing it. We have come up with the strategy that just might

work and will try it for the next few days of my liquid diet and then

after surgery...chewing gum all the time while in the kitchen. Gum

and bites of spaghettios just don't mix well IMHO. I really want the

band to work and all the advice on this board has been so helpful.

Thanks--Misty

>

> Hi, Misty ! You're very welcome! all the other forums also

> have an option to receive daily digests or no rmails at all if you

> prefer. Most other boards do too. It's in the " edit my membership "

> area.

>

> Any and all questions are welcome here, if people are banded. we

just

> felt that with a smaller and more personal board, that we didn't

want

> to spend time with all the pre-band questions like " what is a

> fill? " " Should I get a band or a bypass? "

>

> W're here for people who are already committed to banding. We also

> know that we have to forget all the excuses. Between Dan and me,

I'm

> sure we have personally used every one of them to excuse our weight

> and other problems.

> No more excuses! We have to take responsibility for our own actions

> and their outcomes. We have all gotten into very serious trouble

with

> our wt becuase of all the excuses.

> So now it's time to face the facts and make the needed changes.

> We'll help all we can, even though what we feel we need to say

> sometimes is not always easy to hear.

> Sandy R

> -

>

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Also Sandy, if I come on here and sound depressed, scared, or

negative, you have my permission to give me a swift kick in the arse

to get me back on track. Be blunt, be honest, no sugar coating, Simon-

Cowell-type responses. I am scared, very hungry on the liquid diet

but know that the band is the best thing that can happen to me in

this 20+ battle with weight gain/weight loss. My best friend food is

just going to have to find a new friend because I don't want to die

an early death from health problems. I want to live a long and

healthy life shared with my family as long as I can. I also am a role

model to 3 young kids and don't want them to take on this family

legacy of obesity when they become adults. So, if I start thinking

only of the short-term joys of eating the things I shouldn't, remind

me of the long-term benefits of weight loss.

thanks--being banded on Thursday. Starving on the liquid diet but so

worth it!!

misty

> >

> > Hi, Misty ! You're very welcome! all the other forums also

> > have an option to receive daily digests or no rmails at all if

you

> > prefer. Most other boards do too. It's in the " edit my

membership "

> > area.

> >

> > Any and all questions are welcome here, if people are banded. we

> just

> > felt that with a smaller and more personal board, that we didn't

> want

> > to spend time with all the pre-band questions like " what is a

> > fill? " " Should I get a band or a bypass? "

> >

> > W're here for people who are already committed to banding. We

also

> > know that we have to forget all the excuses. Between Dan and me,

> I'm

> > sure we have personally used every one of them to excuse our

weight

> > and other problems.

> > No more excuses! We have to take responsibility for our own

actions

> > and their outcomes. We have all gotten into very serious trouble

> with

> > our wt becuase of all the excuses.

> > So now it's time to face the facts and make the needed changes.

> > We'll help all we can, even though what we feel we need to say

> > sometimes is not always easy to hear.

> > Sandy R

> > -

> >

>

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Of course you may stay. I have no way of knowing whether anyone who signs up

has a band or not. You're not the first one to do so, nor, I'm sure, the last.

But since all " first messages " to the list take approval by Sandy or me, the few

from " wannabe bandsters " don't get approved for distribution. That also takes

care of those who join the list to spam us with assorted dirty pictures, drugs

for sale, increasing size of body parts, and all that.

Once someone has made an appropriate first post, they're approved for regular

membership, meaning that whatever you post gets automatically distributed.

cheers

dan, and I'll be looking for that lunch money

Re: Issues

> Dan, you are so right about the " other " board! I had joined and it was

> MANDATORY that I had to receive each and every message that was posted

> individually instead of a digest. Well the first day and hubby had a fit

> because he came home from work and there were 96 messages! I switched the

> email address to my , and it was such a hassle to read each and every

> message individually that I dropped after 5 days! I can see what you mean

> about " anal " , also, most of that board seems to be situated in Northern

> California, Oregon, and Washington. Not much use to me unless I plan a

> vacation and plan on staying for a few months! So.since I am getting the

> band on Thursday, can I stay until then? I promise not to ask a bunch of

> stupid questions! I have done enough homework just reading through the

> archives for my questions that I don't feel the need to ask anything

> ridiculous on this board.

>

>

>

> Please don't kick me out of the clubhouse yet! I promise to have my lunch

> money to give you on Thursday!! :-) Misty

>

>

>

>

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I can't speak for the Kuri board, since I'm not his patient. But unless they've

recently changed the rules, SmartBandsters will NOT allow you to digest and will

NOT allow you to be web only message reading. The theory is that will keep the

number of members down. Well, yeah, I suppose. Whatever, but the owner of that

group needs to take some metamucil cookies to relieve the constipation. Or the

constipation in the brain....

Personally, I hate digests and hate web mail, so that part wasn't a problem to

me....but the rest was...so they dumped me. Oh well.

dan

Re: Re: Issues

> It isn't mandatory to receive each and every e mail, you can always read the

posts on the website. I believe that both boards have their purpose. I stay on

the Kuri site just to help the new people that have questions, to be there for

them like someone was there for me when I was new. When you are new it is

helpful to read experiences from people that are going through the same things.

Although I do miss the posts from Sandy, she is so knowledgeable and helpful, I

still enjoy helping the newbies out on that site. I do get the individual

emails and it usually is about ten to fifteen a day, sometimes just a few and

sometimes more.

>

>

>

> Mike and Misty Doroshow wrote:

> Dan, you are so right about the " other " board! I had joined and it

was

> MANDATORY that I had to receive each and every message that was posted

> individually instead of a digest. Well the first day and hubby had a fit

> because he came home from work and there were 96 messages! I switched the

> email address to my , and it was such a hassle to read each and every

> message individually that I dropped after 5 days! I can see what you mean

> about " anal " , also, most of that board seems to be situated in Northern

> California, Oregon, and Washington. Not much use to me unless I plan a

> vacation and plan on staying for a few months! So.since I am getting the

> band on Thursday, can I stay until then? I promise not to ask a bunch of

> stupid questions! I have done enough homework just reading through the

> archives for my questions that I don't feel the need to ask anything

> ridiculous on this board.

>

> Please don't kick me out of the clubhouse yet! I promise to have my lunch

> money to give you on Thursday!! :-) Misty

>

>

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Which " she " is doing that now? Private reply is fine.

The original, and actual, owner is of the male persuasion.

I used to be a moderator there, but they canned me from that after I permitted a

few " critical of the group " posts through. Then not long after, they canned me

totally and permanently. I'm tempted sometime to join up under a different

ID, but that's too much trouble and I just don't care that much.

dan

Re: Issues

> Hi Elaine, it is mandatory to read each and every email or else she

> won't approve you to join the group. I chose the " daily digest " like

> I do for all the groups and she automatically changes it to all

> emails. If you choose " no email " she will decline your membership.

> She is worried about spammers or something but it is just neurotic

> and controlling to me. Life is too short for that. Also there are

> these numerous, numerous rules that have to be followed or you are

> kicked out out of the gang.

> Misty

>

>

>

> > Dan, you are so right about the " other " board! I had

> joined and it was

> > MANDATORY that I had to receive each and every message that was

> posted

> > individually instead of a digest. Well the first day and hubby had

> a fit

> > because he came home from work and there were 96 messages! I

> switched the

> > email address to my , and it was such a hassle to read each

> and every

> > message individually that I dropped after 5 days! I can see what

> you mean

> > about " anal " , also, most of that board seems to be situated in

> Northern

> > California, Oregon, and Washington. Not much use to me unless I

> plan a

> > vacation and plan on staying for a few months! So.since I am

> getting the

> > band on Thursday, can I stay until then? I promise not to ask a

> bunch of

> > stupid questions! I have done enough homework just reading through

> the

> > archives for my questions that I don't feel the need to ask anything

> > ridiculous on this board.

> >

> > Please don't kick me out of the clubhouse yet! I promise to have my

> lunch

> > money to give you on Thursday!! :-) Misty

> >

> >

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Hi Misty,

Well, as noted, we will " kick butt and take names " if and when that is required

on anyone. As you know, " if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen " .

You said in another msg that you have three little kids. Even for them, there

are alternatives to Spaghetti-Os. Really. Not that my kids didn't get them at

times....but that was thirty years ago.....before I got older and smarter.

So keep the nibbly crap out of the house. Kids naturally think they 'have to

have' all sorts of crap. But of course so did we for most of our lives.

Hang in there

dan

Re: Issues

> Hi Sandy, I like that attitude and believe me, that is what I need!

> No excuses! My main fear about being banded on Thursday is my

> tendency to " graze " . A nibble here, a bite there, etc. The calories

> really add up and are filling. My mother does the same thing and we

> haven't lived together for 24 years! Hubby is going to help me with

> that to make it a conscious behavior because I really don't realize

> that I am doing it. We have come up with the strategy that just might

> work and will try it for the next few days of my liquid diet and then

> after surgery...chewing gum all the time while in the kitchen. Gum

> and bites of spaghettios just don't mix well IMHO. I really want the

> band to work and all the advice on this board has been so helpful.

>

> Thanks--Misty

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi, Misty ! You're very welcome! all the other forums also

> > have an option to receive daily digests or no rmails at all if you

> > prefer. Most other boards do too. It's in the " edit my membership "

> > area.

> >

> > Any and all questions are welcome here, if people are banded. we

> just

> > felt that with a smaller and more personal board, that we didn't

> want

> > to spend time with all the pre-band questions like " what is a

> > fill? " " Should I get a band or a bypass? "

> >

> > W're here for people who are already committed to banding. We also

> > know that we have to forget all the excuses. Between Dan and me,

> I'm

> > sure we have personally used every one of them to excuse our weight

> > and other problems.

> > No more excuses! We have to take responsibility for our own actions

> > and their outcomes. We have all gotten into very serious trouble

> with

> > our wt becuase of all the excuses.

> > So now it's time to face the facts and make the needed changes.

> > We'll help all we can, even though what we feel we need to say

> > sometimes is not always easy to hear.

> > Sandy R

> > -

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I've never been on smartbandsters and I don't know who the owner is. I do Kuri

because he is my Dr. and to help people when I can. I came over to

smarterbandsters to follow Sandy when I am looking for more technical info. I

enjoy them both.

honu@... wrote:

I can't speak for the Kuri board, since I'm not his patient. But

unless they've recently changed the rules, SmartBandsters will NOT allow you to

digest and will NOT allow you to be web only message reading. The theory is that

will keep the number of members down. Well, yeah, I suppose. Whatever, but the

owner of that group needs to take some metamucil cookies to relieve the

constipation. Or the constipation in the brain....

Personally, I hate digests and hate web mail, so that part wasn't a problem to

me....but the rest was...so they dumped me. Oh well.

dan

Re: Re: Issues

> It isn't mandatory to receive each and every e mail, you can always read the

posts on the website. I believe that both boards have their purpose. I stay on

the Kuri site just to help the new people that have questions, to be there for

them like someone was there for me when I was new. When you are new it is

helpful to read experiences from people that are going through the same things.

Although I do miss the posts from Sandy, she is so knowledgeable and helpful, I

still enjoy helping the newbies out on that site. I do get the individual emails

and it usually is about ten to fifteen a day, sometimes just a few and sometimes

more.

>

>

>

> Mike and Misty Doroshow wrote:

> Dan, you are so right about the " other " board! I had joined and it was

> MANDATORY that I had to receive each and every message that was posted

> individually instead of a digest. Well the first day and hubby had a fit

> because he came home from work and there were 96 messages! I switched the

> email address to my , and it was such a hassle to read each and every

> message individually that I dropped after 5 days! I can see what you mean

> about " anal " , also, most of that board seems to be situated in Northern

> California, Oregon, and Washington. Not much use to me unless I plan a

> vacation and plan on staying for a few months! So.since I am getting the

> band on Thursday, can I stay until then? I promise not to ask a bunch of

> stupid questions! I have done enough homework just reading through the

> archives for my questions that I don't feel the need to ask anything

> ridiculous on this board.

>

> Please don't kick me out of the clubhouse yet! I promise to have my lunch

> money to give you on Thursday!! :-) Misty

>

>

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Misty, which board is this that requires this?? That's ridiculous!

Sandy R

>

> Hi Elaine, it is mandatory to read each and every email or else she

> won't approve you to join the group. I chose the " daily digest " like

> I do for all the groups and she automatically changes it to all

> emails. If you choose " no email " she will decline your membership.

> She is worried about spammers or something but it is just neurotic

> and controlling to me. Life is too short for that. Also there are

> these numerous, numerous rules that have to be followed or you are

> kicked out out of the gang.

> Misty

>

>

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That would be smartbandsters. Set up a fake email and go try

and join the group and set your messages to daily digest or no

emails. They will approve you on the digest, but you have to email

him stating you are indeed a real person, then he manually goes and

changes your preferences to all messages. As for no emails, he will

deny your membership. I am serious, the first day I joined and

was " approved " I had 96 messages when I got home from school. Hubby

was ticked.

Misty

> >

> > Hi Elaine, it is mandatory to read each and every email or else

she

> > won't approve you to join the group. I chose the " daily digest "

like

> > I do for all the groups and she automatically changes it to all

> > emails. If you choose " no email " she will decline your

membership.

> > She is worried about spammers or something but it is just

neurotic

> > and controlling to me. Life is too short for that. Also there are

> > these numerous, numerous rules that have to be followed or you

are

> > kicked out out of the gang.

> > Misty

> >

> >

>

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You are correct..it is a " he " and not a she. Agree about the

constipation thing!! LOL!

> > Dan, you are so right about the " other " board! I had

joined and it was

> > MANDATORY that I had to receive each and every message that was

posted

> > individually instead of a digest. Well the first day and hubby

had a fit

> > because he came home from work and there were 96 messages! I

switched the

> > email address to my , and it was such a hassle to read each

and every

> > message individually that I dropped after 5 days! I can see what

you mean

> > about " anal " , also, most of that board seems to be situated in

Northern

> > California, Oregon, and Washington. Not much use to me unless I

plan a

> > vacation and plan on staying for a few months! So.since I am

getting the

> > band on Thursday, can I stay until then? I promise not to ask a

bunch of

> > stupid questions! I have done enough homework just reading

through the

> > archives for my questions that I don't feel the need to ask

anything

> > ridiculous on this board.

> >

> > Please don't kick me out of the clubhouse yet! I promise to have

my lunch

> > money to give you on Thursday!! :-) Misty

> >

> >

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Agree about the spaghettios, its not an everyday thing. About once

every 2 weeks I just get lazy and make a can for my girls. My son

won't touch the stuff. We try to keep good food in the house for

their meals and snacks, that family obesity legacy thing needs to

stop with us. My kids view spaghettios as a special meal, kind of

like TV dinners and a babysitter when my mom when out when I was

growing up.

My kids are great about eating fruit...its the veggie/salad that I

can't seem to get them to like or even try. Carrot sticks are about

the extent of their vegetable exposure which is unfortunate. I love

vegetables/salads and eat them almost daily, trying to model that

behavior but hubby won't do it so they follow his lead of " yuck

veggies " . We are working on that. :)

Misty

> > >

> > > Hi, Misty ! You're very welcome! all the other forums

also

> > > have an option to receive daily digests or no rmails at all if

you

> > > prefer. Most other boards do too. It's in the " edit my

membership "

> > > area.

> > >

> > > Any and all questions are welcome here, if people are banded.

we

> > just

> > > felt that with a smaller and more personal board, that we

didn't

> > want

> > > to spend time with all the pre-band questions like " what is a

> > > fill? " " Should I get a band or a bypass? "

> > >

> > > W're here for people who are already committed to banding. We

also

> > > know that we have to forget all the excuses. Between Dan and

me,

> > I'm

> > > sure we have personally used every one of them to excuse our

weight

> > > and other problems.

> > > No more excuses! We have to take responsibility for our own

actions

> > > and their outcomes. We have all gotten into very serious

trouble

> > with

> > > our wt becuase of all the excuses.

> > > So now it's time to face the facts and make the needed changes.

> > > We'll help all we can, even though what we feel we need to say

> > > sometimes is not always easy to hear.

> > > Sandy R

> > > -

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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WOW, I did know that....

I chose to get emails and when on business trips, I get lots of emails from

Kuri and smarterbandsters. I do not get to read them all....

mommisty1968 <doroshow@...> wrote:

You are correct..it is a " he " and not a she. Agree about the

constipation thing!! LOL!

> > Dan, you are so right about the " other " board! I had

joined and it was

> > MANDATORY that I had to receive each and every message that was

posted

> > individually instead of a digest. Well the first day and hubby

had a fit

> > because he came home from work and there were 96 messages! I

switched the

> > email address to my , and it was such a hassle to read each

and every

> > message individually that I dropped after 5 days! I can see what

you mean

> > about " anal " , also, most of that board seems to be situated in

Northern

> > California, Oregon, and Washington. Not much use to me unless I

plan a

> > vacation and plan on staying for a few months! So.since I am

getting the

> > band on Thursday, can I stay until then? I promise not to ask a

bunch of

> > stupid questions! I have done enough homework just reading

through the

> > archives for my questions that I don't feel the need to ask

anything

> > ridiculous on this board.

> >

> > Please don't kick me out of the clubhouse yet! I promise to have

my lunch

> > money to give you on Thursday!! :-) Misty

> >

> >

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What does this mean??? it is a " he " and not a she

mommisty1968 <doroshow@...> wrote: You are

correct..it is a " he " and not a she. Agree about the

constipation thing!! LOL!

> > Dan, you are so right about the " other " board! I had

joined and it was

> > MANDATORY that I had to receive each and every message that was

posted

> > individually instead of a digest. Well the first day and hubby

had a fit

> > because he came home from work and there were 96 messages! I

switched the

> > email address to my , and it was such a hassle to read each

and every

> > message individually that I dropped after 5 days! I can see what

you mean

> > about " anal " , also, most of that board seems to be situated in

Northern

> > California, Oregon, and Washington. Not much use to me unless I

plan a

> > vacation and plan on staying for a few months! So.since I am

getting the

> > band on Thursday, can I stay until then? I promise not to ask a

bunch of

> > stupid questions! I have done enough homework just reading

through the

> > archives for my questions that I don't feel the need to ask

anything

> > ridiculous on this board.

> >

> > Please don't kick me out of the clubhouse yet! I promise to have

my lunch

> > money to give you on Thursday!! :-) Misty

> >

> >

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OK I was confused, I thought you were talking about the Kuri board

mommisty1968 <doroshow@...> wrote:

That would be smartbandsters. Set up a fake email and go try

and join the group and set your messages to daily digest or no

emails. They will approve you on the digest, but you have to email

him stating you are indeed a real person, then he manually goes and

changes your preferences to all messages. As for no emails, he will

deny your membership. I am serious, the first day I joined and

was " approved " I had 96 messages when I got home from school. Hubby

was ticked.

Misty

> >

> > Hi Elaine, it is mandatory to read each and every email or else

she

> > won't approve you to join the group. I chose the " daily digest "

like

> > I do for all the groups and she automatically changes it to all

> > emails. If you choose " no email " she will decline your

membership.

> > She is worried about spammers or something but it is just

neurotic

> > and controlling to me. Life is too short for that. Also there are

> > these numerous, numerous rules that have to be followed or you

are

> > kicked out out of the gang.

> > Misty

> >

> >

>

Elaine - Lake Elsinore, Ca

DOB 4/10/06

264/204/ 180 ish

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Hi Elaine, I was referring to the moderator of smartbandsters and

Dan's comment pertaining to his need to be more " regular " . I

apologize for the confusion. I believe it is my lack of calories on

this pre-op diet that is making me forgetful.

Misty

> > > Dan, you are so right about the " other " board! I had

> joined and it was

> > > MANDATORY that I had to receive each and every message that was

> posted

> > > individually instead of a digest. Well the first day and hubby

> had a fit

> > > because he came home from work and there were 96 messages! I

> switched the

> > > email address to my , and it was such a hassle to read

each

> and every

> > > message individually that I dropped after 5 days! I can see

what

> you mean

> > > about " anal " , also, most of that board seems to be situated in

> Northern

> > > California, Oregon, and Washington. Not much use to me unless I

> plan a

> > > vacation and plan on staying for a few months! So.since I am

> getting the

> > > band on Thursday, can I stay until then? I promise not to ask a

> bunch of

> > > stupid questions! I have done enough homework just reading

> through the

> > > archives for my questions that I don't feel the need to ask

> anything

> > > ridiculous on this board.

> > >

> > > Please don't kick me out of the clubhouse yet! I promise to

have

> my lunch

> > > money to give you on Thursday!! :-) Misty

> > >

> > >

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Thanks Misty, I didn't realize we were talking about both other boards.

Good luck on your upcoming surgery and new life.

mommisty1968 <doroshow@...> wrote:

Hi Elaine, I was referring to the moderator of smartbandsters and

Dan's comment pertaining to his need to be more " regular " . I

apologize for the confusion. I believe it is my lack of calories on

this pre-op diet that is making me forgetful.

Misty

> > > Dan, you are so right about the " other " board! I had

> joined and it was

> > > MANDATORY that I had to receive each and every message that was

> posted

> > > individually instead of a digest. Well the first day and hubby

> had a fit

> > > because he came home from work and there were 96 messages! I

> switched the

> > > email address to my , and it was such a hassle to read

each

> and every

> > > message individually that I dropped after 5 days! I can see

what

> you mean

> > > about " anal " , also, most of that board seems to be situated in

> Northern

> > > California, Oregon, and Washington. Not much use to me unless I

> plan a

> > > vacation and plan on staying for a few months! So.since I am

> getting the

> > > band on Thursday, can I stay until then? I promise not to ask a

> bunch of

> > > stupid questions! I have done enough homework just reading

> through the

> > > archives for my questions that I don't feel the need to ask

> anything

> > > ridiculous on this board.

> > >

> > > Please don't kick me out of the clubhouse yet! I promise to

have

> my lunch

> > > money to give you on Thursday!! :-) Misty

> > >

> > >

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hello there misty,

here comes the swift kick you requested. (LOL) you don't have to

give up your best friend food. it is not your friend. in fact, it

is the enemy. so make a 180 degree turn right now and face the fact

that a friend wouldn't give you the results food has produced up to

now.

so in making your attitude shift, and recognizing that you are

struggling with hunger on your LSD, try this one on for size. the

beautiful feeling of running on empty. get to like it. get to

appreciate it. stop and experience it without stuffing it back with

food. it can make an enormous difference in your experience of

banding. it will help you to recognize the soft signs that help you

stop eating post banding. when you eat, stop and smell the roses.

good luck on thursday and welcome to this incredible journey.

george

>

> Also Sandy, if I come on here and sound depressed, scared, or

> negative, you have my permission to give me a swift kick in the

arse

> to get me back on track. Be blunt, be honest, no sugar coating,

Simon-

> Cowell-type responses. //

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You are so right. Feeling hunger these last 9 days has been very

humbling for me. I can't remember feeling hunger since September when

I had lost 35 pounds on Atkins Diet. The end of September my beloved

91 year old grandfather died. He was like a father to me and I miss

him terribly. I gained back the 35 pounds lost and when I look back

and ask myself why, I really think it is because feeling full made me

feel " safe " . I don't know what other way to explain it.

Now, being almost 39, I haven't gone without " real food " for about 20

years and this experience has been very good for me because it made

me realize that there are millions of people all over the world who

go hungry at night, especially children. They don't have the money or

resources for food. Here I am, in the most prosperous country in the

world, driving my brand new car (a kia, but still!!) living in my

beautiful new house, with a fantastic husband, and 3 of the best kids

you'll ever want to meet, very healthy for being over 100 pounds

overweight with no high bp, diabetes, etc)...and I realize that I

REALLY have it good, hunger and all.

So, hunger and I are going to be friends now. I have no fear of him

anymore. The band will help satisfy that hunger. I am OBVIOUSLY not

going to " starve " to death with my heavy insulation. My love affair

with food has come to an end. It's not going to " comfort " me the way

it used to when I get the band this week. I have to admit I am

scared, and might have to go through a mourning period like I did

with my grandfather, but the one thing positive I can say about that

is my grandfather was a very active and healthy man who lived 91

years because of his lifestyle. Up until a few months of his death,

he continued walking to the store and back daily to get his groceries

and his exercise, a mile each way. He ate healthy and normal portions

and loved playing golf and walking 18 holes a few days a week. He was

truly a role model for me and the one thing I know he would love to

have happen for me is to get healthy and have a long life like he had

rich with grandchildren to spoil and dote over. His family was his

greatest asset, and my 2 brothers and 3 sisters will always treasure

the time we had with him.

In part, getting this band will help me model after him, since I

haven't been able to do it on my own. I pray that throughout my life

I can be as positive of an influence in my childrens lives as he was

on mine. He may be gone, but my cherished memories of him will always

be here.

Thanks . You are correct on the feeling of running on empty. It

almost feels " normal " .

Misty

> >

> > Also Sandy, if I come on here and sound depressed, scared, or

> > negative, you have my permission to give me a swift kick in the

> arse

> > to get me back on track. Be blunt, be honest, no sugar coating,

> Simon-

> > Cowell-type responses. //

>

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Well, yes, it is a he. I mentioned " she " since there are, or at least were,

several of them helping by following the same regs. The real irony is that he's

gained weight back, has also switched or reverted back to a different addiction,

and has behaved inappropriately with more than one bandster female.

Well, no one said that putting a band around our tummies would put one around

our head to shrink it too.....as many of us know from personal experience.

dan

Re: Issues

> You are correct..it is a " he " and not a she. Agree about the

> constipation thing!! LOL!

>

>

> > > Dan, you are so right about the " other " board! I had

> joined and it was

> > > MANDATORY that I had to receive each and every message that was

> posted

> > > individually instead of a digest. Well the first day and hubby

> had a fit

> > > because he came home from work and there were 96 messages! I

> switched the

> > > email address to my , and it was such a hassle to read each

> and every

> > > message individually that I dropped after 5 days! I can see what

> you mean

> > > about " anal " , also, most of that board seems to be situated in

> Northern

> > > California, Oregon, and Washington. Not much use to me unless I

> plan a

> > > vacation and plan on staying for a few months! So.since I am

> getting the

> > > band on Thursday, can I stay until then? I promise not to ask a

> bunch of

> > > stupid questions! I have done enough homework just reading

> through the

> > > archives for my questions that I don't feel the need to ask

> anything

> > > ridiculous on this board.

> > >

> > > Please don't kick me out of the clubhouse yet! I promise to have

> my lunch

> > > money to give you on Thursday!! :-) Misty

> > >

> > >

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