Re: Re: Breakthrough in adult-onset diabetes

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This really does make me wonder if essentially shocking our systems to realign the balance is possible. Ive considered doing a complete 360 on my dietBianca On Jun 26, 2011, at 11:08 AM, "asfy" <asfyso@...> wrote:

Sabina,

Silver is a strong antimicrobial and has been used by homeopaths for a very long time. However, it is generally not recommended to take silver in high-doses/long-term therapy because it accumulates in the body (argyria - the skin turns blue because the body has no way to get rid of silver).

Apparently, Argentyn 23 is 23 parts per million of silver, which sounds a low dose according to EPA standards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyria

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> thanks asfy. i have been thinking about chiming into the group and sending an

> email, so this seemed like a good opportunity.

>

>

> my husband is newly seeing a homeopathic doctor who is also an MD. he is

> finishing up his 3rd week of a 6 week diet cleanse, which sounds like it might

> be similar to the "extreme diet" mentioned below. it consists mostly of  veggies

> and meat/fish/eggs/goat yogurt, and a few other items but it is slim

> pickings! (we even have to sneak in some brown rice so he doesn't completely

> whither away) in addition, he has abstained from alcohol for over 3 months,

> which seems to have made a noticeable difference in his breathing right away. he

> tried the low salicylate diet, but it didn't seem to work for him (although he

> hadn't eliminated occasional alcohol at that time). in addition to the cleanse,

> he is taking a number of homeopathic herbs. one that is newly added, and we'll

> have to knock on wood it continues, because he is noticing it is helping, is

> argentyn 23 - a colloidal silver.

> http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/argentyn23.php

> i saw there were posts in the samters archive about colloidal silver in may

> 2010. the one i'm mentioning is stronger than those available at health food

> stores. i hope it is not jumping the gun for me to mention this, but i did want

> to share the info.

>

>

> my best.

>

>

>

>

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> From: asfy <asfyso@...>

> samters

> Sent: Thu, June 23, 2011 11:30:35 PM

> Subject: Breakthrough in adult-onset diabetes

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> Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes

> British study finds two-month extreme diet can cure type 2 diabetes and

> overturns assumptions about 'lifelong' condition

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jun/24/low-calorie-diet-hope-cure-diabetes

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Ya thats probably the case. My diet is not that great to begin with. So its glycemic index? Low processed foods? Bianca On Jun 26, 2011, at 1:55 PM, "asfy" <asfyso@...> wrote:

Bianca,Diet is important in the management of Samter's, but if your diet is already good - with a low level of inflammatory foods - you are already on the right track and there is no need for readjustment. If, however, you eat foods with a high glycemic index, bad fats, etc then switching to something more "mediterranean" would lower your inflammatory level after some time and likely improve your general situation.> > >> > > thanks asfy. i have been thinking about chiming into the group and sending an > > > email, so this seemed like a good opportunity. > > > > > > > > > my husband is newly seeing a homeopathic doctor who is also an MD. he is > > > finishing up his 3rd week of a 6 week diet cleanse, which sounds like it might > > > be similar to the "extreme diet" mentioned below. it consists mostly of  veggies > > > and meat/fish/eggs/goat yogurt, and a few other items but it is slim > > > pickings! (we even have to sneak in some brown rice so he doesn't completely > > > whither away) in addition, he has abstained from alcohol for over 3 months, > > > which seems to have made a noticeable difference in his breathing right away. he > > > tried the low salicylate diet, but it didn't seem to work for him (although he > > > hadn't eliminated occasional alcohol at that time). in addition to the cleanse, > > > he is taking a number of homeopathic herbs. one that is newly added, and we'll > > > have to knock on wood it continues, because he is noticing it is helping, is > > > argentyn 23 - a colloidal silver. > > > http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/argentyn23.php> > > i saw there were posts in the samters archive about colloidal silver in may > > > 2010. the one i'm mentioning is stronger than those available at health food > > > stores. i hope it is not jumping the gun for me to mention this, but i did want > > > to share the info. > > > > > > > > > my best.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > From: asfy asfyso@> > > samters > > > Sent: Thu, June 23, 2011 11:30:35 PM> > > Subject: Breakthrough in adult-onset diabetes> > > > > >  > > > Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes> > > British study finds two-month extreme diet can cure type 2 diabetes and > > > overturns assumptions about 'lifelong' condition> > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jun/24/low-calorie-diet-hope-cure-diabetes> > >> > > >>

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Thank you! I really appreciate this. Bianca On Jun 26, 2011, at 2:17 PM, "asfyso" <asfyso@...> wrote:

Information on glycemic index can be found on the website of the people who developed the concept : http://www.glycemicindex.com/In general, any good, time-proven diet - like the mediterranean diet or the Okinawa diet - will be low-glycemic index. Any diet with a lot of vegetables and fruits will be low-glycemic index because it will move out high-glycemic index foods such as sugars, white rice, white bread, potatoes, etc.Regarding fats, the average western diet is too high in inflammatory fats and has an excessive Omega 6 / Omega 3 ratio. Avoiding inflammatory fats such as fat red meat, and increasing wild fish like small wild fish, will improve this ratio.Avoiding processed foods usually is a first step because they tend to contain several inflammatory components that are added to lower the manufacturing cost or make the food taste "better".> > > > >> > > > > thanks asfy. i have been thinking about chiming into the group and sending an > > > > > email, so this seemed like a good opportunity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my husband is newly seeing a homeopathic doctor who is also an MD. he is > > > > > finishing up his 3rd week of a 6 week diet cleanse, which sounds like it might > > > > > be similar to the "extreme diet" mentioned below. it consists mostly of  veggies > > > > > and meat/fish/eggs/goat yogurt, and a few other items but it is slim > > > > > pickings! (we even have to sneak in some brown rice so he doesn't completely > > > > > whither away) in addition, he has abstained from alcohol for over 3 months, > > > > > which seems to have made a noticeable difference in his breathing right away. he > > > > > tried the low salicylate diet, but it didn't seem to work for him (although he > > > > > hadn't eliminated occasional alcohol at that time). in addition to the cleanse, > > > > > he is taking a number of homeopathic herbs. one that is newly added, and we'll > > > > > have to knock on wood it continues, because he is noticing it is helping, is > > > > > argentyn 23 - a colloidal silver. > > > > > http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/argentyn23.php> > > > > i saw there were posts in the samters archive about colloidal silver in may > > > > > 2010. the one i'm mentioning is stronger than those available at health food > > > > > stores. i hope it is not jumping the gun for me to mention this, but i did want > > > > > to share the info. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my best.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > > From: asfy asfyso@> > > > > samters > > > > > Sent: Thu, June 23, 2011 11:30:35 PM> > > > > Subject: Breakthrough in adult-onset diabetes> > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes> > > > > British study finds two-month extreme diet can cure type 2 diabetes and > > > > > overturns assumptions about 'lifelong' condition> > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jun/24/low-calorie-diet-hope-cure-diabetes> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> >>

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The diet cleanse my husband is on is definitely a complete overhaul.. For the first time in over a decade he was a designated driver! Besides the alcohol, the diet itself is quite "extreme", but apparently doable. If interested, I can forward a more complete list of the foods his Dr recommended. It's a 6 week diet, and then he'll slowly add other things back in. The biggest surprises in the diet are: that it doesn't entail anything processed including tofu, all noodles, and all breads; the only fruits are grapefruit and pineapple; agave nectar and stevia are the only sweeteners. Slow cooked oatmeal is allowed, but no other grains..so that is why he's sneaking in brown rice. They say its progress, not perfection, so changing it a bit here and there is ok. And thanks asfy for the heads up on argentyn 23, I had read that about discoloring being a potential side effect eventually from silver. We'll see how long his Dr wants him to be on it. For now though it seems to be helping along with all the other supplements.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Bianca <bianca_f75@...>Sender: samters Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:19:17 -0800samters <samters >Reply samters Subject: Re: Re: Breakthrough in adult-onset diabetes Thank you! I really appreciate this. Bianca On Jun 26, 2011, at 2:17 PM, "asfyso" <asfyso@...> wrote: Information on glycemic index can be found on the website of the people who developed the concept : http://www.glycemicindex.com/In general, any good, time-proven diet - like the mediterranean diet or the Okinawa diet - will be low-glycemic index. Any diet with a lot of vegetables and fruits will be low-glycemic index because it will move out high-glycemic index foods such as sugars, white rice, white bread, potatoes, etc.Regarding fats, the average western diet is too high in inflammatory fats and has an excessive Omega 6 / Omega 3 ratio. Avoiding inflammatory fats such as fat red meat, and increasing wild fish like small wild fish, will improve this ratio.Avoiding processed foods usually is a first step because they tend to contain several inflammatory components that are added to lower the manufacturing cost or make the food taste "better".> > > > >> > > > > thanks asfy. i have been thinking about chiming into the group and sending an > > > > > email, so this seemed like a good opportunity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my husband is newly seeing a homeopathic doctor who is also an MD. he is > > > > > finishing up his 3rd week of a 6 week diet cleanse, which sounds like it might > > > > > be similar to the "extreme diet" mentioned below. it consists mostly of  veggies > > > > > and meat/fish/eggs/goat yogurt, and a few other items but it is slim > > > > > pickings! (we even have to sneak in some brown rice so he doesn't completely > > > > > whither away) in addition, he has abstained from alcohol for over 3 months, > > > > > which seems to have made a noticeable difference in his breathing right away. he > > > > > tried the low salicylate diet, but it didn't seem to work for him (although he > > > > > hadn't eliminated occasional alcohol at that time). in addition to the cleanse, > > > > > he is taking a number of homeopathic herbs. one that is newly added, and we'll > > > > > have to knock on wood it continues, because he is noticing it is helping, is > > > > > argentyn 23 - a colloidal silver. > > > > > http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/argentyn23.php> > > > > i saw there were posts in the samters archive about colloidal silver in may > > > > > 2010. the one i'm mentioning is stronger than those available at health food > > > > > stores. i hope it is not jumping the gun for me to mention this, but i did want > > > > > to share the info. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my best.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________> > > > > From: asfy asfyso@> > > > > samters > > > > > Sent: Thu, June 23, 2011 11:30:35 PM> > > > > Subject: Breakthrough in adult-onset diabetes> > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes> > > > > British study finds two-month extreme diet can cure type 2 diabetes and > > > > > overturns assumptions about 'lifelong' condition> > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jun/24/low-calorie-diet-hope-cure-diabetes> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> >>

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Ya if u could forward me the info that would be great bianca_f75@... thanks! Bianca On Jun 26, 2011, at 5:56 PM, sabina1003@... wrote:

The diet cleanse my husband is on is definitely a complete overhaul.. For the first time in over a decade he was a designated driver! Besides the alcohol, the diet itself is quite "extreme", but apparently doable. If interested, I can forward a more complete list of the foods his Dr recommended. It's a 6 week diet, and then he'll slowly add other things back in. The biggest surprises in the diet are: that it doesn't entail anything processed including tofu, all noodles, and all breads; the only fruits are grapefruit and pineapple; agave nectar and stevia are the only sweeteners. Slow cooked oatmeal is allowed, but no other grains..so that is why he's sneaking in brown rice. They say its progress, not perfection, so changing it a bit here and there is ok. And thanks asfy for the heads up on argentyn 23, I had read that about discoloring being a potential side effect eventually from silver. We'll see how long his Dr wants him to be on it. For now though it seems to be helping along with all the other supplements.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Bianca <bianca_f75@...>

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Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:19:17 -0800samters <samters >Reply samters

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Thank you! I really appreciate this. Bianca On Jun 26, 2011, at 2:17 PM, "asfyso" <asfyso@...> wrote:

Information on glycemic index can be found on the website of the people who developed the concept : http://www.glycemicindex.com/In general, any good, time-proven diet - like the mediterranean diet or the Okinawa diet - will be low-glycemic index. Any diet with a lot of vegetables and fruits will be low-glycemic index because it will move out high-glycemic index foods such as sugars, white rice, white bread, potatoes, etc.Regarding fats, the average western diet is too high in inflammatory fats and has an excessive Omega 6 / Omega 3 ratio. Avoiding inflammatory fats such as fat red meat, and increasing wild fish like small wild fish, will improve this ratio.Avoiding processed foods usually is a first step because they tend to contain several inflammatory components that are added to lower the manufacturing cost or make the food taste "better".> > > > >> > > > > thanks asfy. i have been thinking about chiming into the group and sending an > > > > > email, so this seemed like a good opportunity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my husband is newly seeing a homeopathic doctor who is also an MD. he is > > > > > finishing up his 3rd week of a 6 week diet cleanse, which sounds like it might > > > > > be similar to the "extreme diet" mentioned below. it consists mostly of  veggies > > > > > and meat/fish/eggs/goat yogurt, and a few other items but it is slim > > > > > pickings! (we even have to sneak in some brown rice so he doesn't completely > > > > > whither away) in addition, he has abstained from alcohol for over 3 months, > > > > > which seems to have made a noticeable difference in his breathing right away. he > > > > > tried the low salicylate diet, but it didn't seem to work for him (although he > > > > > hadn't eliminated occasional alcohol at that time). in addition to the cleanse, > > > > > he is taking a number of homeopathic herbs. one that is newly added, and we'll > > > > > have to knock on wood it continues, because he is noticing it is helping, is > > > > > argentyn 23 - a colloidal silver. > > > > > http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/argentyn23.php> > > > > i saw there were posts in the samters archive about colloidal silver in may > > > > > 2010. the one i'm mentioning is stronger than those available at health food > > > > > stores. i hope it is not jumping the gun for me to mention this, but i did want > > > > > to share the info. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my best.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________> > > > > From: asfy asfyso@> > > > > samters > > > > > Sent: Thu, June 23, 2011 11:30:35 PM> > > > > Subject: Breakthrough in adult-onset diabetes> > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes> > > > > British study finds two-month extreme diet can cure type 2 diabetes and > > > > > overturns assumptions about 'lifelong' condition> > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jun/24/low-calorie-diet-hope-cure-diabetes> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> >>

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No problem, happy to help. I'll try and send it within the next few days.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Bianca <bianca_f75@...>Sender: samters Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 18:03:41 -0800samters <samters >Reply samters Subject: Re: Re: Breakthrough in adult-onset diabetes Ya if u could forward me the info that would be great bianca_f75@... thanks! Bianca On Jun 26, 2011, at 5:56 PM, sabina1003@... wrote: The diet cleanse my husband is on is definitely a complete overhaul.. For the first time in over a decade he was a designated driver! Besides the alcohol, the diet itself is quite "extreme", but apparently doable. If interested, I can forward a more complete list of the foods his Dr recommended. It's a 6 week diet, and then he'll slowly add other things back in. The biggest surprises in the diet are: that it doesn't entail anything processed including tofu, all noodles, and all breads; the only fruits are grapefruit and pineapple; agave nectar and stevia are the only sweeteners. Slow cooked oatmeal is allowed, but no other grains..so that is why he's sneaking in brown rice. They say its progress, not perfection, so changing it a bit here and there is ok. And thanks asfy for the heads up on argentyn 23, I had read that about discoloring being a potential side effect eventually from silver. We'll see how long his Dr wants him to be on it. For now though it seems to be helping along with all the other supplements.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Bianca <bianca_f75@...>Sender: samters Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:19:17 -0800samters <samters >Reply samters Subject: Re: Re: Breakthrough in adult-onset diabetes Thank you! I really appreciate this. Bianca On Jun 26, 2011, at 2:17 PM, "asfyso" <asfyso@...> wrote: Information on glycemic index can be found on the website of the people who developed the concept : http://www.glycemicindex.com/In general, any good, time-proven diet - like the mediterranean diet or the Okinawa diet - will be low-glycemic index. Any diet with a lot of vegetables and fruits will be low-glycemic index because it will move out high-glycemic index foods such as sugars, white rice, white bread, potatoes, etc.Regarding fats, the average western diet is too high in inflammatory fats and has an excessive Omega 6 / Omega 3 ratio. Avoiding inflammatory fats such as fat red meat, and increasing wild fish like small wild fish, will improve this ratio.Avoiding processed foods usually is a first step because they tend to contain several inflammatory components that are added to lower the manufacturing cost or make the food taste "better".> > > > >> > > > > thanks asfy. i have been thinking about chiming into the group and sending an > > > > > email, so this seemed like a good opportunity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my husband is newly seeing a homeopathic doctor who is also an MD. he is > > > > > finishing up his 3rd week of a 6 week diet cleanse, which sounds like it might > > > > > be similar to the "extreme diet" mentioned below. it consists mostly of  veggies > > > > > and meat/fish/eggs/goat yogurt, and a few other items but it is slim > > > > > pickings! (we even have to sneak in some brown rice so he doesn't completely > > > > > whither away) in addition, he has abstained from alcohol for over 3 months, > > > > > which seems to have made a noticeable difference in his breathing right away. he > > > > > tried the low salicylate diet, but it didn't seem to work for him (although he > > > > > hadn't eliminated occasional alcohol at that time). in addition to the cleanse, > > > > > he is taking a number of homeopathic herbs. one that is newly added, and we'll > > > > > have to knock on wood it continues, because he is noticing it is helping, is > > > > > argentyn 23 - a colloidal silver. > > > > > http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/argentyn23.php> > > > > i saw there were posts in the samters archive about colloidal silver in may > > > > > 2010. the one i'm mentioning is stronger than those available at health food > > > > > stores. i hope it is not jumping the gun for me to mention this, but i did want > > > > > to share the info. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my best.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________> > > > > From: asfy asfyso@> > > > > samters > > > > > Sent: Thu, June 23, 2011 11:30:35 PM> > > > > Subject: Breakthrough in adult-onset diabetes> > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes> > > > > British study finds two-month extreme diet can cure type 2 diabetes and > > > > > overturns assumptions about 'lifelong' condition> > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jun/24/low-calorie-diet-hope-cure-diabetes> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> >>

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Thanks . My husband, Mike, had been inhaling a small vile of Budesonide directly into each nostril every night. So colloidal silver at least seems like a healthier alternative to that, for now while he's seeing this new Dr. Best,SabinaSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: "Ansara, (Norbord)" <anthony.ansara@...>Sender: samters Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:30:30 -0400<samters >Reply samters Subject: Re: Breakthrough in adult-onset diabetes Hi guys, A cautionary note on colloidal silver; your body does not “consume”the colloidal silver you put in it. It stays in your system forever. I tookthis for years and gave it to my kids when they were sick and it works great. Itwas the antibiotic of choice for 100 years apparently. The problem is thatprolonged used is harmful and can be toxic. Not to mention the side effect of “blueskin” if you consume too much. Just wanted to share,