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Hi all listmates

I was wondering if there are members who live in the following towns

Teaneck, NJ

Englewood Cliffs, NJ

Deamerest, NJ

Norwood, NJ

Closter, NJ

I wanted input on how the school districts are in reference to special

education, and if any of the districts have preschool (for 3 yr olds)

programs for autism. Any input is apprecitated. (You can email me off list)

We currently live in Cliffside Park (which has a in district program) and are

looking to relocated in the future.

Thanks

Mona

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Cheryl,

There seem to be differences here as there are with our kids. Your

school district seems to have 75,000 students out of which there are

10,000 in special ed. Most of us seem to be in school districts that

are a whole lot smaller. Ours is about 2000 students. So an out of

district placement in our school district would still be in-district for

you even if it was another zone.

Across the country, school districts seem to be defined differently.

Not every district is like yours. Most are incredibly smaller and often

do not have the critical mass to provide all the services their students

might need. We had cooperation between school districts (even their

agregate wasn't equal to the massive size you quote) and we were able to

choose programs in other schools that matched our children's needs.

When my daughter was in the school system, the local district simply

didn't have appropriate programs. Because of its small size, they

grouped LD and ED students into the same environment. They also had an

attitude that special ed was only for the lower grades because the

students would be able to handle middle and high school without sped.

In my era, we were focused on teaching our children all they could learn

and much less on social issues. We felt that we could cover those

outside of school and I'd guess that we didn't do all that badly.

Rick

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In a message dated 3/9/2003 11:26:24 PM Central Standard Time,

rdill@... writes:

> In my era, we were focused on teaching our children all they could learn

> and much less on social issues. We felt that we could cover those

> outside of school and I'd guess that we didn't do all that badly.

>

> Rick

HI Rick :)

This is my goal too and will be my argument at Sara's next IEP meeting. Life

skills can be taught at home.

I am fearing they will try to exclude Sara from SS and Science next year and

I won't let this happen. How much time do they really need to work on reading

and math skills, without losing the child out of boredom?

Let me share what happened this weekend, Sara and I were watching a broadcast

of the Columbia accident. I explained to Sara in simple terms that this was a

spaceship that blew up, very sad. She asked me which planet were they going

to? Mars? Pluto? or Saturn? Now let me tell you she never would have had

access to this information in the Sped room. She also has been learning about

and and is retaining the information and LOVING IT!!!! Language

is what I want out of Reg Ed, access to the curriculum like the other kids.

Social behaviors comes second to that.

This is how I look at it for Sara...... the Sped class is for skill building

(reading and math), Reg Ed is for information gathering.

Kathy mom to Sara 11 ............. Wanting everything available for Sara :)

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In a message dated 3/10/2003 5:08:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, huie@...

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> This is my goal too and will be my argument at Sara's next IEP meeting.

> Life

> >skills can be taught at home.

>

That's why I argued to keep my daughter out of the self contained classes

(where they focus more on life skills)

Cheryl in VA

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> In a message dated 3/9/2003 11:26:24 PM Central Standard Time,

> rdill@... writes:

>

>

> > In my era, we were focused on teaching our children all they could learn

> > and much less on social issues. We felt that we could cover those

> > outside of school and I'd guess that we didn't do all that badly.

> >

> > Rick

>

>

> HI Rick :)

>

> This is my goal too and will be my argument at Sara's next IEP meeting.

Life

> skills can be taught at home.

>

>

> Kathy mom to Sara 11 ............. Wanting everything available for Sara

:)

This is how I feel for also. At her first IEP in South Carolina, the

teacher kept saying needed life skills, such as going to a movie

theater, restaurant, mall, grocery store and library. I emphatically

replied that already did those things, and was well experienced in

them, and didn't need reinforcement from school. The teacher then replied

that was her only student that did not need these things, do

would have to go along with the rest of the class, regardless. To make a

long story short, did not go along the the class. She stayed at

school and focused on her academics. For now, we handle the life skills at

home just fine.

Sharon

Mom to , (11, DS) and , (7)

Pawleys Island, South Carolina

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Did Rick mean " life skills " as in all that junk they do in sped rooms like watch

videos, learn to cook at age 5, learn to wash clothes at 6, etc? or did he mean

social skills which all our kids need to be socially acceptable in a society??

I wanted academics AND social skills. needed to stay in a line like

other kids, raise his hand, use a napkin, come out of the restroom clothed, etc.

Elaine

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In a message dated 3/10/2003 5:08:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, huie@...

writes:

> This is my goal too and will be my argument at Sara's next IEP meeting.

> Life

> >skills can be taught at home.

>

That's why I argued to keep my daughter out of the self contained classes

(where they focus more on life skills)

Cheryl in VA

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In a message dated 10/12/04 6:17:09 PM, tylerhaley01@... writes:

<< Even though our rode runs parralel to the railroad

tracks, apparently it is on the Banks County side. Which means our

road is just 4 feet inside the line. The school called and said that

since we live in Banks County that he will have to go there.

I went to Banks County this afternoon. They don't offer

transportation and my son can't stay in their after school program

because he is too young (3). That is also why he can't ride the bus. >>

1) The school district where you reside is responsible for your child's

education. Schools are financed through local property taxes. So, if you (or the

owner of the house/apartment that you live in) pays property taxes in Banks

County then that is the school district you live in. Habersham County schools

do

not have to take your child - Banks County does.

2) If your child has an IEP that has determined services will be provided in

a school setting then transportation should be provided as a related service.

Your child is not too young to ride a bus. He simply requires a car seat.

3) Although the school does not have an obligation to allow preschool

children into their afterschool program, they could transport to/from a daycare

location within Banks County.

Have you asked for help from the county with these issues? Do they have a

social worker who assists families in the preschool/special ed program? Perhaps

some creative minds working together can find a solution.

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I don't understand why he can't ride the bus or stay in after

school? If he is in public school he is entitled to the same things

as other students. 3 year olds in other counties stay in after care,

and ride the bus with car seats and everything. That doesn't seem to

be a legal reason to me. I bet if you really push them on it you

could get it. I know they have to provided car seats.

Good luck.

Amnesty

>

> I don't know if any one else has had this problem, but I am

wondering

> if there is anything that I can do to fight it. I live in

NorthEast

> Georgia. I live right on the county line of Banks and Habersham

> Counties. We had registered Tyler with Habersham because it is

closer

> to us. The Demorest Primary is 10-15 minutes from our house where

as

> the Banks County school is 30. When Habersham went to see what bus

he

> would have to ride then they realized that we live in Banks

instead

> of Habersham. Half of the town we live in is in Banks, the other

half

> in Habersham. Apparently, the railroad tracks arewhat they

consider

> the county line. Even though our rode runs parralel to the

railroad

> tracks, apparently it is on the Banks County side. Which means our

> road is just 4 feet inside the line. The school called and said

that

> since we live in Banks County that he will have to go there.

> I went to Banks County this afternoon. They don't offer

> transportation and my son can't stay in their after school program

> because he is too young (3). That is also why he can't ride the

bus.

> He has to be there at 8:30. I have to be at work at 8, my husband

at

> 7. That means since they don't offer transportation and he can't

stay

> in after school that either my husband or I will have to quit our

> jobs. Something we are financially not capable of doing. In other

> words, my son can't go to his Special Ed Pre-K this year because

we

> live 4 feet over the line. If he were to go to Habersham, they

would

> provide transportation to and from school. Which means he could

ride

> the bus to his daycare.

> Has any one else had this problem with their schools and if so can

I

> fight this since I live closer to the Habersham school? My son is

> going to be the one to suffer here because he is not going to get

the

> early intervention that he desperatly needs!

> One more thing. If he goes to Banks County that adds 30 minutes to

my

> already 30 minute commute. I would have to drive an hour to work.

30

> minutes to his school, 30 more to Gainesville to work. If my

husband

> takes him then he has to drive 30 minutes to Tyler's school, then

30

> minutes BACK to work. So that is an hour for him,also.

> Sorry this has been so long, but I think this is just ridiculous.

I

> have cried so much today because it is getting so frustrating. I

> really want my son to be able to go to school, but to do that we

> would have to move across the line to Haberhsam, which isn't a

> problem since we rent, it's just that we can't afford another

deposit

> and transfer fees for phone, power, etc. right now. I am at my

wits

> end!

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I lived in Habersham County from 1988-1992. It is a beautiful area!

Since you are commuting to Gainesville for work, have you looked into

Challenged Child? Their web address is www.challengedchild.org.

NW Georgia

> I don't know if any one else has had this problem, but I am

wondering if there is anything that I can do to fight it. I live in

NorthEast Georgia. I live right on the county line of Banks and

Habersham Counties. We had registered Tyler with Habersham because it

is closer to us. One more thing. If he goes to Banks County that adds

30 minutes to my already 30 minute commute. I would have to drive an

hour to work. 30 minutes to his school, 30 more to Gainesville to

work.

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Yes, I have checked into Challenged Child and they are sending me some info. Thanks so much for mentioning them. I am also trying to find a place in Habersham. Since we rent (haven't decided if we want to be here forever) it won't be a major thing to move. I really liked the Habersham special ed Pre-K. Nothing against Banks County. I'm sure they do a good job, I was just more impressed with Habersham. I would feel better about leaving my child with them.

Thanks again for your help!

-- Re: School Districts

I lived in Habersham County from 1988-1992. It is a beautiful area! Since you are commuting to Gainesville for work, have you looked into Challenged Child? Their web address is www.challengedchild.org.NW Georgia > I don't know if any one else has had this problem, but I am wondering if there is anything that I can do to fight it. I live in NorthEast Georgia. I live right on the county line of Banks and Habersham Counties. We had registered Tyler with Habersham because it is closer to us. One more thing. If he goes to Banks County that adds 30 minutes to my already 30 minute commute. I would have to drive an hour to work. 30 minutes to his school, 30 more to Gainesville to work.

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  • 4 years later...

We are considering a move from Medina Co. back to Cuy. Co and are looking at the

following districts:

Strongsville

Olmsted Falls

Berea/Midd Hts

We want to know the good, bad and ugly. How well did they accomodate your child

or at least, how open and receptive were they? Please feel free to share

programs and insights at all levels of school (elementary, middle and HS) and

perhaps what to look for. We plan to take this year to really research quite a

bit. ANother consideration for us is the county support (MRDD) that out kiddos

on the spectrum normally get through Cuy. Co.

Sidenote-East side is really not an option for us since we have an older son as

well and don't want to uproot him from his current school.

But we would welcome any comments about it!

Thanks so much!

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