Re: natural sinus treatment in Seattle

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Hi everyone,

The best natural supplement all of us should be on daily is

acidophilus. I have not heard of the posted treatment before.

30 months system free since my last surgery!!! No

smell yet but as we all know, we’ll taking no congestion over smell

any day! Still looking for a SOS solution!

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Sounds like spa heaven for the nose! I had to giggle though when I was reading over their website.... the few times I went to a naturopath (and I will be going back), she had me lay face down on a table (much like they described on their website) while doing my acupuncture treatment and the open faced cushion allowed for my sinus to drain naturally (if need be, which at that time was pretty much ALWAYS). She also put the Q-tips with essential oils up my nose. Sounds like this place in Seattle (only 3 hours from me) took all of that and added a Naso-Neb and wah-lah, they have a Spa for the Nose! heheheAll kidding aside, I am sure they are professionals. Their prices were not too high either. Interesting. Thanks for

sharing!From: joan harvey <thomyris7@...>Subject: natural sinus treatment in Seattlesamters Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 7:10 PMThis is no cure for Samter’s or substitute for good medical care, but I’ve had really excellent luck with a good naturopath and thought this might be of interest if there are any Samter’s folks in Seattle. I don’t live in Seattle and personally have no experience with them, but it sounds as if they know what they are doing.http://sinusninja.com/146/sinusitis-allergy-medicine-alternative------------------------------------

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You're right -- may be gimmicky -- but -- after many many many antibiotics and no success, I've been having luck working with a naturopath in clearing an infection. I have a SOS after months and months of none. So suddenly I'm on the natural bandwagon. This though, happened admittedly after many sessions with other healers and acupuncturists who helped some, but not terribly much. My current naturopath just seems much more educated and is having me use a complicated array of techniques (misting not being one of them), and the results, so far are positive. Obviously if someone has polyps or structural damage all the misting and oils in the world won't help. However if someone has an infection and antibiotics aren't working there do seem to be natural ways to get at it. This place may or may not be effective, but I thought they did seem somewhat more informed. Anyhow, it is a sign of what asfy posted, that sinus and respiratory diseases are on the rise.On Sep 1, 2011, at 9:40 AM, M Do wrote:

Sounds like spa heaven for the nose! I had to giggle though when I was reading over their website.... the few times I went to a naturopath (and I will be going back), she had me lay face down on a table (much like they described on their website) while doing my acupuncture treatment and the open faced cushion allowed for my sinus to drain naturally (if need be, which at that time was pretty much ALWAYS). She also put the Q-tips with essential oils up my nose. Sounds like this place in Seattle (only 3 hours from me) took all of that and added a Naso-Neb and wah-lah, they have a Spa for the Nose! heheheAll kidding aside, I am sure they are professionals. Their prices were not too high either. Interesting. Thanks for

sharing!From: joan harvey <thomyris7@...>Subject: natural sinus treatment in Seattlesamters Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 7:10 PMThis is no cure for Samter’s or substitute for good medical care, but I’ve had really excellent luck with a good naturopath and thought this might be of interest if there are any Samter’s folks in Seattle. I don’t live in Seattle and personally have no experience with them, but it sounds as if they know what they are doing.http://sinusninja.com/146/sinusitis-allergy-medicine-alternative------------------------------------

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A point to remember in these naturopath techniques is that essential oils do have powerful medicinal properties. The only problem is that they are usually very corrosive when pure, which is why they are always used diluted : - q-tips of essential oil + vegetable oil inserted in the nostrils,- misting,- breathing in a handkerchief sprayed with essential oils,- spraying a bed pillow for the night,- some even drink them diluted in alcohol, itself diluted in water,- and often a combination of the above.Of course, all is in the dosage, medium, oil selection, etc.> > > > From: joan harvey thomyris7@...> > Subject: natural sinus treatment in Seattle> > samters > > Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 7:10 PM> > > > This is no cure for Samter's or substitute for good medical care, but I've had really excellent luck with a good naturopath and thought this might be of interest if there are any Samter's folks in Seattle. I don't live in Seattle and personally have no experience with them, but it sounds as if they know what they are doing.> > > > http://sinusninja.com/146/sinusitis-allergy-medicine-alternative> > > > ------------------------------------> > > >

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I don't think it is gimmicky at all, I think someone came up with a really good idea and now stands to possibly make a good income!When I talked w/rep from a naso-neb manufacturer, she said it was actually created by a doctor whose wife used a nebulizer for her lungs and also suffered with sinus problems...wah-lah, new product on the market! No disrespect to anyone, but dealing with my own mucous overproduction, I don't think I could deal with others for a living! ;-) But it sounds like a wonderful treatment, someone is very smart to put all the pieces together.... I am a firm believer in naturopath too. She felt my case at the time was way too complicated and wanted me to get the necessary help with my allergist and then come back to her to

maintain balance...What I like about her, she teaches me what I can do or use to get well (drink nettle tea for hives, use a drop of Eucalyptus Radiata essential oil in boiling water and breathe the vapor) and writes it down, so later, I can reference that info and help myself, versus a regular doctor, I have to go to them, jump through some hoops to get a prescription that treats the symptoms and then go back again and again to be able to refill that prescription. I truly appreciate this group and the information that is shared. From: joan harvey <thomyris7@...>Subject: natural sinus treatment in Seattlesamters Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 7:10 PMThis is no cure for Samter’s or substitute for good medical care, but I’ve had really excellent luck with a good naturopath and thought this might be of interest if there are any Samter’s folks in Seattle. I don’t live

in Seattle and personally have no experience with them, but it sounds as if they know what they are doing.http://sinusninja.com/146/sinusitis-allergy-medicine-alternative------------------------------------

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Hi everyone,

If someone has had success with essential oils helping their

SOS please share your experience with us. I’d like to know which ones?

How it was taken? Hown much ? How often?

Thanks in advance.

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I talked with my ENT about the naso-neb and with info you the folks here, I was able to get myself one. I've been using it for a couple of days and I'm waiting to see if I gain anything.

So far I have an issue with the device itself. it seems the two posts that deliver the med into the nostil are too close together for me to get the thing in the right position. I've tried all the suggestions they have and it works about 30% of the time at best. I know I'm standing correctly and aiming it correctly. I have to move it around trying to get it to spray all the way back. The goal is to feel it in the back of the throat. Then you know it's right.

But I can only get it to do one side or the other, not both. I asked if they had it in a larger size and ASL told me they had one in the works and should be out in a year.... sheesh....

So because it isn't spraying up the nose like it should, the treatment takes about 6 minutes instead of the 2. In the 3 days I've had 6 attemps, 7 counting this morning, and one nostril at a time is the best I can do.

Crusher

From: M Do <michellemdo@...>samters Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 4:07 PMSubject: Re: natural sinus treatment in Seattle

I don't think it is gimmicky at all, I think someone came up with a really good idea and

now stands to possibly make a good income!

When I talked w/rep from a naso-neb manufacturer, she said it was actually created by a doctor whose wife used a nebulizer for her lungs and also suffered with sinus problems...

wah-lah, new product on the market!

No disrespect to anyone, but dealing with my own mucous overproduction, I don't think I could deal with others for a living! ;-) But it sounds like a wonderful treatment, someone is very smart to put all the pieces together....

I am a firm believer in naturopath too. She felt my case at the time was way too complicated and wanted me to get the necessary help with my allergist and then come back to her to maintain balance...

What I like about her, she teaches me what I can do or use to get well (drink nettle tea for hives, use a drop of Eucalyptus Radiata essential oil in boiling water and breathe the vapor) and writes it down, so later, I can reference that info and help myself, versus a regular doctor, I have to go to them, jump through some hoops to get a prescription that treats the symptoms and then go back again and again to be able to refill that prescription.

I truly appreciate this group and the information that is shared.

From: joan harvey <thomyris7@...>Subject: natural sinus treatment in Seattlesamters Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 7:10 PM

This is no cure for Samter’s or substitute for good medical care, but I’ve had really excellent luck with a good naturopath and thought this might be of interest if there are any Samter’s folks in Seattle. I don’t live in Seattle and personally have no experience with them, but it sounds as if they know what they are doing.http://sinusninja.com/146/sinusitis-allergy-medicine-alternative------------------------------------

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I use a nebulization nasal ending that is similar to this one :http://www.dtf.fr/Embout-nasal-C26.htmlwhich becomes flexible once you cut the middle plastic piece and can then suit all nose sizes ;but other designs exist as well :http://www.equipmedical.com/p-embout-nasal-pour-aerosol-omron-p3405.htmlI wouldn't worry too much about feeling it or not at the back of the throat : the real point is that the mist must get inside the sinuses. If the sinuses have already been opened by surgery, this is not too difficult, as the mist that enters the nasal fossa eventually enters the sinuses through air exchange between these two areas. Otherwise, a small amount of sinus deposition can still be achieved, and even improved by the vibration technique (the manufacturer adds an intermittent, low-frequency vibration to the airflow, which apparently helps in this regard).Actually, I believe a longer nebulization time might be better, because the longer the fine-particle mist stays inside the nasal fossa, the longer it will have time to penetrate the sinuses through air exchange.Of course, it is preferable to avoid situations where all the mist is directed towards the septum, condenses there, and flows back out the nose or down the throat.You can also put the nebulizer tip closer to your nostrils, provided you disinfect it afterwards (which should be done anyway). > >>> >>>From: joan harvey thomyris7@...> >>>Subject: natural sinus treatment in Seattle> >>>samters > >>>Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 7:10 PM> >>>> >>>>

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As always, thanks asfy for your input on this. According to ASL it should only take 2 minutes to disperse the 10cc into the nose. He says if I am doing it right, it should be only a couple of minutes. If not, it is hitting inside the nose somewhere and running back into the cup to be sprayed again. He also said that on longer use I may find that it starts to irritate the passages because of the pressure of the spray and because it is a steroid. So getting it done faster and without hitting the passages (or at least as little as possible) is supposed to be better.I wonder if putting it in a regular nebulizer cup and using my CPAP mask to let it drift into the nasal passage might not be a better deal. I know the objective for their device is to get it into the nose

without getting it into the lungs. However, I am using inhaled steroids for the asthma anyway. Wouldn't it actually kill two birds with one stone? No sense doing 2 treatments when I could do just one I wonder if that would actually work?CrusherFrom: asfy <asfyso@...>samters Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 2:39 PMSubject: Re: natural sinus treatment in Seattle

I use a nebulization nasal ending that is similar to this one :http://www.dtf.fr/Embout-nasal-C26.htmlwhich becomes flexible once you cut the middle plastic piece and can then suit all nose sizes ;but other designs exist as well :http://www.equipmedical.com/p-embout-nasal-pour-aerosol-omron-p3405.htmlI wouldn't worry too much about feeling it or not at the back of the throat : the real point is that the mist must get inside the sinuses. If the sinuses have already been opened by surgery, this is not too difficult, as the mist that enters the nasal fossa eventually enters the sinuses through air exchange between these two areas. Otherwise, a small amount of sinus deposition can still be achieved, and even improved by the vibration technique (the manufacturer adds an intermittent, low-frequency vibration to the airflow, which apparently helps in this

regard).Actually, I believe a longer nebulization time might be better, because the longer the fine-particle mist stays inside the nasal fossa, the longer it will have time to penetrate the sinuses through air exchange.Of course, it is preferable to avoid situations where all the mist is directed towards the septum, condenses there, and flows back out the nose or down the throat.You can also put the nebulizer tip closer to your nostrils, provided you disinfect it afterwards (which should be done anyway).--

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Crusher,I thought the same thing but 'asfy' will explain it better than I can. When you use the naso-neb, do you get that bitter taste running down the back of your throat? When I use my nasal sprays, that is usually what ends up happening and I have tried all of the suggestions, I just cannot seem to do it right....it is soooo frustrating.I am confused about how we are supposed to get the nebulized med into our sinuses but not our lungs...I am beginning to think the Naso-Neb may not be an option for me...especially since I am blocked on one side and trying like crazy to avoid another surgery if at all possible.....From: Crusher Miler <crusher75060@...>Subject: Re: Re: natural sinus treatment in Seattle"samters " <samters >Date: Friday, September 2, 2011, 2:51 PM

As always, thanks asfy for your input on this. According to ASL it should only take 2 minutes to disperse the 10cc into the nose. He says if I am doing it right, it should be only a couple of minutes. If not, it is hitting inside the nose somewhere and running back into the cup to be sprayed again. He also said that on longer use I may find that it starts to irritate the passages because of the pressure of the spray and because it is a steroid. So getting it done faster and without hitting the passages (or at least as little as possible) is supposed to be better.I wonder if putting it in a regular nebulizer cup and using my CPAP mask to let it drift into the nasal passage might not be a better deal. I know the objective for their device is to get it into the nose

without getting it into the lungs. However, I am using inhaled steroids for the asthma anyway. Wouldn't it actually kill two birds with one stone? No sense doing 2 treatments when I could do just one I wonder if that would actually work?CrusherFrom: asfy <asfyso@...>samters Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 2:39 PMSubject: Re: natural sinus treatment in Seattle

I use a nebulization nasal ending that is similar to this one :http://www.dtf.fr/Embout-nasal-C26.htmlwhich becomes flexible once you cut the middle plastic piece and can then suit all nose sizes ;but other designs exist as well :http://www.equipmedical.com/p-embout-nasal-pour-aerosol-omron-p3405.htmlI wouldn't worry too much about feeling it or not at the back of the throat : the real point is that the mist must get inside the sinuses. If the sinuses have already been opened by surgery, this is not too difficult, as the mist that enters the nasal fossa eventually enters the sinuses through air exchange between these two areas. Otherwise, a small amount of sinus deposition can still be achieved, and even improved by the vibration technique (the manufacturer adds an intermittent, low-frequency vibration to the airflow, which apparently helps in this

regard).Actually, I believe a longer nebulization time might be better, because the longer the fine-particle mist stays inside the nasal fossa, the longer it will have time to penetrate the sinuses through air exchange.Of course, it is preferable to avoid situations where all the mist is directed towards the septum, condenses there, and flows back out the nose or down the throat.You can also put the nebulizer tip closer to your nostrils, provided you disinfect it afterwards (which should be done anyway).--

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From what the guy explained to me, if you are doing it right you should feel a "cooling" sensation in the back of the throat. The size of the particles are such that there really shouldn't be that much running out. I get that... just up one side or the other. Not both. Then, the other side is hitting inside along the nasal bone somewhere, pooling and dripping back into the cup.

I tried my idea tonight and it seems to work fairly well. I just don't know that nebulizing the meds into that small a particle allows it to stick in the sinus as it passes through. I'll probably just stick with the way they are suggesting. One side at a time is better than none.

Crusher

From: M Do <michellemdo@...>samters Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 8:11 PMSubject: Re: Re: natural sinus treatment in Seattle

Crusher,

I thought the same thing but 'asfy' will explain it better than I can.

When you use the naso-neb, do you get that bitter taste running down the back of your throat? When I use my nasal sprays, that is usually what ends up happening and I have tried all of the suggestions, I just cannot seem to do it right....it is soooo frustrating.

I am confused about how we are supposed to get the nebulized med into our sinuses but not our lungs...I am beginning to think the Naso-Neb may not be an option for me...especially since I am blocked on one side and trying like crazy to avoid another surgery if at all possible.....

From: Crusher Miler <crusher75060@...>Subject: Re: Re: natural sinus treatment in Seattle"samters " <samters >Date: Friday, September 2, 2011, 2:51 PM

As always, thanks asfy for your input on this. According to ASL it should only take 2 minutes to disperse the 10cc into the nose. He says if I am doing it right, it should be only a couple of minutes. If not, it is hitting inside the nose somewhere and running back into the cup to be sprayed again. He also said that on longer use I may find that it starts to irritate the passages because of the pressure of the spray and because it is a steroid. So getting it done faster and without hitting the passages (or at least as little as possible) is supposed to be better.

I wonder if putting it in a regular nebulizer cup and using my CPAP mask to let it drift into the nasal passage might not be a better deal. I know the objective for their device is to get it into the nose without getting it into the lungs. However, I am using inhaled steroids for the asthma anyway. Wouldn't it actually kill two birds with one stone? No sense doing 2 treatments when I could do just one I wonder if that would actually work?

Crusher

From: asfy <asfyso@...>samters Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 2:39 PMSubject: Re: natural sinus treatment in Seattle

I use a nebulization nasal ending that is similar to this one :

http://www.dtf.fr/Embout-nasal-C26.html

which becomes flexible once you cut the middle plastic piece and can then suit all nose sizes ;

but other designs exist as well :

http://www.equipmedical.com/p-embout-nasal-pour-aerosol-omron-p3405.html

I wouldn't worry too much about feeling it or not at the back of the throat : the real point is that the mist must get inside the sinuses. If the sinuses have already been opened by surgery, this is not too difficult, as the mist that enters the nasal fossa eventually enters the sinuses through air exchange between these two areas. Otherwise, a small amount of sinus deposition can still be achieved, and even improved by the vibration technique (the manufacturer adds an intermittent, low-frequency vibration to the airflow, which apparently helps in this regard).

Actually, I believe a longer nebulization time might be better, because the longer the fine-particle mist stays inside the nasal fossa, the longer it will have time to penetrate the sinuses through air exchange.

Of course, it is preferable to avoid situations where all the mist is directed towards the septum, condenses there, and flows back out the nose or down the throat.

You can also put the nebulizer tip closer to your nostrils, provided you disinfect it afterwards (which should be done anyway).

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From your description, I understand that the Nasoneb's tip is to be almost inserted in the nostrils, so that there is indeed no mist deperdition. At this point, you have two options :- breathing normally through the nose : the mist will enter the lungs as well ; I have no idea wether the medication used is suited for both or not, but I do know that the appropriate mist particle size required for good lung deposition is not the same as the one for the sinuses, so you might not get perfect particle deposition with one machine ; the only way of knowing if it makes a big difference is to try, though ;- breathing through the mouth : by inspiring and expiring only through the mouth, you will naturally close the separation between the lower and upper airways and no mist will be deposited in the lungs.>> As always, thanks asfy for your input on this. According to ASL it should only take 2 minutes to disperse the 10cc into the nose. He says if I am doing it right, it should be only a couple of minutes. If not, it is hitting inside the nose somewhere and running back into the cup to be sprayed again. He also said that on longer use I may find that it starts to irritate the passages because of the pressure of the spray and because it is a steroid. So getting it done faster and without hitting the passages (or at least as little as possible) is supposed to be better.> > I wonder if putting it in a regular nebulizer cup and using my CPAP mask to let it drift into the nasal passage might not be a better deal. I know the objective for their device is to get it into the nose without getting it into the lungs. However, I am using inhaled steroids for the asthma anyway. Wouldn't it actually kill two birds with one stone? No sense doing 2 treatments when I could do just one I wonder if that would actually work?> > Crusher> > > > ________________________________> From: asfy asfyso@...> samters > Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 2:39 PM> Subject: Re: natural sinus treatment in Seattle> > > > I use a nebulization nasal ending that is similar to this one :> http://www.dtf.fr/Embout-nasal-C26.html> which becomes flexible once you cut the middle plastic piece and can then suit all nose sizes ;> but other designs exist as well :> http://www.equipmedical.com/p-embout-nasal-pour-aerosol-omron-p3405.html> > I wouldn't worry too much about feeling it or not at the back of the throat : the real point is that the mist must get inside the sinuses. If the sinuses have already been opened by surgery, this is not too difficult, as the mist that enters the nasal fossa eventually enters the sinuses through air exchange between these two areas. Otherwise, a small amount of sinus deposition can still be achieved, and even improved by the vibration technique (the manufacturer adds an intermittent, low-frequency vibration to the airflow, which apparently helps in this regard).> > Actually, I believe a longer nebulization time might be better, because the longer the fine-particle mist stays inside the nasal fossa, the longer it will have time to penetrate the sinuses through air exchange.> > Of course, it is preferable to avoid situations where all the mist is directed towards the septum, condenses there, and flows back out the nose or down the throat.> > You can also put the nebulizer tip closer to your nostrils, provided you disinfect it afterwards (which should be done anyway).> -->

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This taste down the back of the throat is due to the fact that everything that falls on the mucosa eventually gets washed back down the throat, due to the movement of the ciliae that cover the nasal passages. This is the nasal mucosa's natural evacuation function, which is often compromised inside the sinuses (and often in a wider area) when you have chronic sinusitis. So, no matter how you spray, it is natural to get that feeling. If you want to avoid the potential complications of too much steroids down the back of the throat, you can gargle with water to wash some of it back (or you could irrigate with saline, but that would defeat the point of spraying in the first place).I know that the idea of the newer neb machines is to nebulize the cup as fast as possible for user convenience, but another way of doing it is to nebulize a bit, stop the machine a minute or so to allow what has been nebulized to deposite and sediment properly inside the nasal fossa and sinuses, and cycle through this again until the cup is empty. It takes longer, of course. You can try it both ways to compare.> > From: Crusher Miler crusher75060@...> Subject: Re: Re: natural sinus treatment in Seattle> "samters " samters > Date: Friday, September 2, 2011, 2:51 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > As always, thanks asfy for your input on this. According to ASL it should only take 2 minutes to disperse the 10cc into the nose. He says if I am doing it right, it should be only a couple of minutes. If not, it is hitting inside the nose somewhere and running back into the cup to be sprayed again. He also said that on longer use I may find that it starts to irritate the passages because of the pressure of the spray and because it is a steroid. So getting it done faster and without hitting the passages (or at least as little as possible) is supposed to be better.> I wonder if putting it in a regular nebulizer cup and using my CPAP mask to let it drift into the nasal passage might not be a better deal. I know the objective for their device is to get it into the nose> without getting it into the lungs. However, I am using inhaled steroids for the asthma anyway. Wouldn't it actually kill two birds with one stone? No sense doing 2 treatments when I could do just one  I wonder if that would actually work?> Crusher> > From: asfy asfyso@...> samters > Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 2:39 PM> Subject: Re: natural sinus treatment in Seattle> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > I use a nebulization nasal ending that is similar to this one :http://www.dtf.fr/Embout-nasal-C26.htmlwhich becomes flexible once you cut the middle plastic piece and can then suit all nose sizes ;but other designs exist as well :http://www.equipmedical.com/p-embout-nasal-pour-aerosol-omron-p3405.html> I wouldn't worry too much about feeling it or not at the back of the throat : the real point is that the mist must get inside the sinuses. If the sinuses have already been opened by surgery, this is not too difficult, as the mist that enters the nasal fossa eventually enters the sinuses through air exchange between these two areas. Otherwise, a small amount of sinus deposition can still be achieved, and even improved by the vibration technique (the manufacturer adds an intermittent, low-frequency vibration to the airflow, which apparently helps in this> regard).> Actually, I believe a longer nebulization time might be better, because the longer the fine-particle mist stays inside the nasal fossa, the longer it will have time to penetrate the sinuses through air exchange.> Of course, it is preferable to avoid situations where all the mist is directed towards the septum, condenses there, and flows back out the nose or down the throat.> You can also put the nebulizer tip closer to your nostrils, provided you disinfect it afterwards (which should be done anyway).> -->

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Well, looks like the nasal neb is not for me. At least until they make a few changes in the delivery cup. Because the two posts that spray the meds are so close together, I can't get it to spray up both sides of my nose. I'm not a huge guy and I don't have a huge nose. I would says it's average. However, because the medication is sprayed with velocity against one side of the nasal tissue while the other goes into the sinus as planned, now every time I use the system, I end up bleeding.

So I suppose until they are able to make one a little bigger, or an adjustable one, I'll be stuck with pouring the 's solution up my nose while hanging over the side of the bed. Bummer.. I was so looking forward to this working for me.

Crusher

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Crusher, couldn't you use some food-grade flexible plastic tubes of an appropriate diameter, that you could disinfect and put over the cup's exit holes to give the nebulized airflow the desired direction? This is basically what flexible nasal tips are designed for in other brands of nebulizers.>> Well, looks like the nasal neb is not for me. At least until they make a few changes in the delivery cup. Because the two posts that spray the meds are so close together, I can't get it to spray up both sides of my nose. I'm not a huge guy and I don't have a huge nose. I would says it's average. However, because the medication is sprayed with velocity against one side of the nasal tissue while the other goes into the sinus as planned, now every time I use the system, I end up bleeding.> > So I suppose until they are able to make one a little bigger, or an adjustable one, I'll be stuck with pouring the 's solution up my nose while hanging over the side of the bed. Bummer.. I was so looking forward to this working for me.> > Crusher>

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I suppose that is possible. The spray comes out like something you might see if you squeezed an Afrin bottle real hard. If I lengthen the path with the tubing, I feel it would probably disrupt the spray pattern and end up coming out in a stream instead.

I got a couple of emails that suggest I go to a different cup that has only 1 barrel. That way I can just do one side at a time and the other won't be blasting my septum.

I have considered blocking one side of this one with a hot iron to melt the hole closed and doing one side at a time. The people ASL were ok with me doing that. They said if I do it and it doesn't work, they will send me another cup..

Crusher

From: asfy <asfyso@...>samters Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 5:16 PMSubject: Re: natural sinus treatment in Seattle

Crusher, couldn't you use some food-grade flexible plastic tubes of an appropriate diameter, that you could disinfect and put over the cup's exit holes to give the nebulized airflow the desired direction? This is basically what flexible nasal tips are designed for in other brands of nebulizers.

>> Well, looks like the nasal neb is not for me. At least until they make a few changes in the delivery cup. Because the two posts that spray the meds are so close together, I can't get it to spray up both sides of my nose. I'm not a huge guy and I don't have a huge nose. I would says it's average. However, because the medication is sprayed with velocity against one side of the nasal tissue while the other goes into the sinus as planned, now every time I use the system, I end up bleeding.> > So I suppose until they are able to make one a little bigger, or an adjustable one, I'll be stuck with pouring the 's solution up my nose while hanging over the side of the bed. Bummer.. I was so looking forward to this working for me.> > Crusher>