Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 In a message dated 10/12/2001 7:03:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mommylovesrj@... writes: > He was 4 months, and 4 > days. I can't help but wonder if it is vax related. > I want so desperately to contact these people, to find > out for certain, as I am sure that HAD he just had > vaccines, and died as said...unknown causes...these > people probably have no clue of any possibly > correlation, who'd they contact, etc. however, HOW do > you contact someone on such a matter, KWIM? Another > big *Sigh* > Can you do it anonymously? Maybe put a note in their mailbox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 Oh my, how so sad. I just do not understand the concept of daycare in the first place, and I am certified to own and operate a preschool! Guess my values have changed. =o) Poor little one. *Sigh* Possibly on the same note, in the paper last night, was an obituary for a 4 month old little boy, who died at home, of unknown causes. He was 4 months, and 4 days. I can't help but wonder if it is vax related. I want so desperately to contact these people, to find out for certain, as I am sure that HAD he just had vaccines, and died as said...unknown causes...these people probably have no clue of any possibly correlation, who'd they contact, etc. however, HOW do you contact someone on such a matter, KWIM? Another big *Sigh* ~Donna...IL --- Kathy <felbatol@...> wrote: > Then she says " he had his shots TODAY and does > not feel well " . So > mom/dad gets him vaccinated then just sends him to > daycare after? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2001 Report Share Posted October 13, 2001 --- JILBAIT@... wrote: I am actually considering sending them a condolance card, telling them a bit about RJ's bad reaction to vaccines, etc, and telling them exatcly what I said here, in better terms. Wording will be touchy tho, ya know? I will also include info for them to research, people to contact, etc, just to at least plant the seed. It very well may NOT be the cause, but man alive is that red flag waving!!! KWIM? ~Donna...IL P.S. If anyone has some added ideas, PLMK! __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 Since you *did* ask for ideas...I don't think it would be very nice at all if you sent them a condolance card with any information about your son and his vaccine injuries etc... I don't think I would like to recieve anything through the mail about someone else's thoughts on vaccine issues right after the death of my child. Maybe in a few months you could " plant the seed " ..but now, I can't even imagine how raw their grief must be ! ~le Re: I don't understand > > --- JILBAIT@... wrote: > > I am actually considering sending them a condolance > card, telling them a bit about RJ's bad reaction to > vaccines, etc, and telling them exatcly what I said > here, in better terms. Wording will be touchy tho, ya > know? I will also include info for them to research, > people to contact, etc, just to at least plant the > seed. It very well may NOT be the cause, but man > alive is that red flag waving!!! KWIM? > > ~Donna...IL > > P.S. If anyone has some added ideas, PLMK! > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 Oh good grief!! I didn't mean I would do it immediately!! I guess I thought that people would presume that was a given...would be pretty ballsy, much less blatantly rude, to send anything so immediate. ~Donna...IL P.S. Just to clarify, I am the one you should be quoting, not Jilbait...she was just one making a comment. --- Whalen <whalen@...> wrote: > Since you *did* ask for ideas...I don't think it > would be very nice at all > if you sent them a condolance card with any > information about your son and > his vaccine injuries etc... I don't think I would > like to recieve anything > through the mail about someone else's thoughts on > vaccine issues right after > the death of my child. > Maybe in a few months you could " plant the seed " > ..but now, I can't even > imagine how raw their grief must be ! > > ~le > > > Re: I don't understand > > > > > > --- JILBAIT@... wrote: > > > > I am actually considering sending them a > condolance > > card, telling them a bit about RJ's bad reaction > to > > vaccines, etc, and telling them exatcly what I > said > > here, in better terms. Wording will be touchy > tho, ya > > know? I will also include info for them to > research, > > people to contact, etc, just to at least plant the > > seed. It very well may NOT be the cause, but man > > alive is that red flag waving!!! KWIM? > > > > ~Donna...IL > > > > P.S. If anyone has some added ideas, PLMK! > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Hi Roni! Geoff here. You wrote: > [sNIP] I need some help! > > I have SD. I was so excited that my anticentimere > numbers are down to 285 (sure doesn't feel that low > today) and my ANA numbers are 1285. What's going > on? Do the ANA numbers ever get " in the normal " range? You can find more information about the tests at www.rheumatic.org, and at http://www.labtestsonline.org/. I find the latter simpler to use for this purpose, and the former more helpful in understanding how said results might apply to me personally. HTH Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 My brother was in high school today and some kid they said brought drugs so they searched everyone and they took my brothers cell phone and ipod but they gave it back after school but he told my mom they gave everyone cavity searches. Now I would think that would be illegal to give students cavity searches. My mom said she is going to call the school and complain about that. Is that like that all over or is it just the schools in and around Buffalo? http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Art, I guess you are asking us because it is stressing you? This is normally not a topic for this group. But it's happening more and more all over. Blessings, Joy -----Message ----- From: Art3 ; circle2012dreams2 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: [ ] I Don't Understand My brother was in high school today and some kid they said brought drugs so they searched everyone and they took my brothers cell phone and ipod but they gave it back after school but he told my mom they gave everyone cavity searches. Now I would think that would be illegal to give students cavity searches. My mom said she is going to call the school and complain about that. Is that like that all over or is it just the schools in and around Buffalo? http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1088 - Release Date: 10/23/2007 1:26 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Yes. Is there a cure for arthritis? ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce Hudson Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [ ] I Don't Understand Art, I guess you are asking us because it is stressing you? This is normally not a topic for this group. But it's happening more and more all over. Blessings, Joy -----Message ----- From: Art3 ; circle2012dreams2 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: [ ] I Don't Understand My brother was in high school today and some kid they said brought drugs so they searched everyone and they took my brothers cell phone and ipod but they gave it back after school but he told my mom they gave everyone cavity searches. Now I would think that would be illegal to give students cavity searches. My mom said she is going to call the school and complain about that. Is that like that all over or is it just the schools in and around Buffalo? http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1088 - Release Date: 10/23/2007 1:26 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 That depends upon each person. What is causing the problem. With my Dad, it is over use of his body. He wasn't happy unless he was working, even if he was exhausted. Poor Nutrition can cause it. Also, injuries can cause it. Also genetics can cause it. Eating right, removing sugar from your diet, will help the most. There are articles in our files with information. I up load files everyday. It's what I have been doing this evening. There is good information and more is coming. Read, help yourself hon, even if you don't feel like it. It's better to be busy doing something constructive and positive, than to do nothing. Blessings, Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: Art3 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [ ] I Don't Understand Yes. Is there a cure for arthritis? ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce Hudson Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [ ] I Don't Understand Art, I guess you are asking us because it is stressing you? This is normally not a topic for this group. But it's happening more and more all over. Blessings, Joy -----Message ----- From: Art3 ; circle2012dreams2 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: [ ] I Don't Understand My brother was in high school today and some kid they said brought drugs so they searched everyone and they took my brothers cell phone and ipod but they gave it back after school but he told my mom they gave everyone cavity searches. Now I would think that would be illegal to give students cavity searches. My mom said she is going to call the school and complain about that. Is that like that all over or is it just the schools in and around Buffalo? http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1088 - Release Date: 10/23/2007 1:26 PM No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1088 - Release Date: 10/23/2007 1:26 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Art a cure I do not know, but calcium, esp. the plant type by dr Vogel does help with pain to dimishes alot; since I had poli I suffer of regenerative joint and use calcium(as seen on TV from Japan) and also glucosamine and chondroitin, which helps as far as the cartlidge is concerned and I walk quite painfree. However, I live in the tropics, that is a plus to this condition as well. Kind regards, Atiester On 10/23/07, Art3 <art@...> wrote: Yes. Is there a cure for arthritis? ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce Hudson Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [ ] I Don't Understand Art, I guess you are asking us because it is stressing you? This is normally not a topic for this group. But it's happening more and more all over. Blessings, Joy -----Message ----- From: Art3 ; circle2012dreams2 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: [ ] I Don't Understand My brother was in high school today and some kid they said brought drugs so they searched everyone and they took my brothers cell phone and ipod but they gave it back after school but he told my mom they gave everyone cavity searches. Now I would think that would be illegal to give students cavity searches. My mom said she is going to call the school and complain about that. Is that like that all over or is it just the schools in and around Buffalo? http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1088 - Release Date: 10/23/2007 1:26 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Thank you Atiester! Blessings, Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: atie vande plasse Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [ ] I Don't Understand Art a cure I do not know, but calcium, esp. the plant type by dr Vogel does help with pain to dimishes alot; since I had poli I suffer of regenerative joint and use calcium(as seen on TV from Japan) and also glucosamine and chondroitin, which helps as far as the cartlidge is concerned and I walk quite painfree. However, I live in the tropics, that is a plus to this condition as well. Kind regards, Atiester On 10/23/07, Art3 <art@...> wrote: Yes. Is there a cure for arthritis? ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce Hudson Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [ ] I Don't Understand Art, I guess you are asking us because it is stressing you? This is normally not a topic for this group. But it's happening more and more all over. Blessings, Joy -----Message ----- From: Art3 ; circle2012dreams2 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: [ ] I Don't Understand My brother was in high school today and some kid they said brought drugs so they searched everyone and they took my brothers cell phone and ipod but they gave it back after school but he told my mom they gave everyone cavity searches. Now I would think that would be illegal to give students cavity searches. My mom said she is going to call the school and complain about that. Is that like that all over or is it just the schools in and around Buffalo? http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1088 - Release Date: 10/23/2007 1:26 PM No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1088 - Release Date: 10/23/2007 1:26 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Art, in our posts, you say your legs are swollen badly with the rest of your body. This is the water retention. Severe water retention can cause pain and other health problems. Now you have pain in your legs from 2 problems, arthritis and water retention. Until you see a new doctor, you should not try anything new. Your health is too sensitive with fighting cancer and the cancer medicines. The first thing you need to do is find a new doctor. This will lead to the second thing, which is stabilizing your body. Once your body is stabilized, and this will not happen over night, then you can work on cures. Blessings and Love, Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: Art3 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [ ] I Don't Understand Yes. Is there a cure for arthritis? ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce Hudson Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [ ] I Don't Understand Art, I guess you are asking us because it is stressing you? This is normally not a topic for this group. But it's happening more and more all over. Blessings, Joy -----Message ----- From: Art3 ; circle2012dreams2 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: [ ] I Don't Understand My brother was in high school today and some kid they said brought drugs so they searched everyone and they took my brothers cell phone and ipod but they gave it back after school but he told my mom they gave everyone cavity searches. Now I would think that would be illegal to give students cavity searches. My mom said she is going to call the school and complain about that. Is that like that all over or is it just the schools in and around Buffalo? http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1088 - Release Date: 10/23/2007 1:26 PM No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1088 - Release Date: 10/23/2007 1:26 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 A few years ago my doctor said I had too much calcium. I don't know now. It's really cold and damp here and when the weather changes this happens to me. My mom said I need to see a bone boctor for my ankle. I wish I lived in the tropics. ----- Original Message ----- From: atie vande plasse Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [ ] I Don't Understand Art a cure I do not know, but calcium, esp. the plant type by dr Vogel does help with pain to dimishes alot; since I had poli I suffer of regenerative joint and use calcium(as seen on TV from Japan) and also glucosamine and chondroitin, which helps as far as the cartlidge is concerned and I walk quite painfree. However, I live in the tropics, that is a plus to this condition as well. Kind regards, Atiester On 10/23/07, Art3 <artfroggernet> wrote: Yes. Is there a cure for arthritis? ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce Hudson Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [ ] I Don't Understand Art, I guess you are asking us because it is stressing you? This is normally not a topic for this group. But it's happening more and more all over. Blessings, Joy -----Message ----- From: Art3 ; circle2012dreams2 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: [ ] I Don't Understand My brother was in high school today and some kid they said brought drugs so they searched everyone and they took my brothers cell phone and ipod but they gave it back after school but he told my mom they gave everyone cavity searches. Now I would think that would be illegal to give students cavity searches. My mom said she is going to call the school and complain about that. Is that like that all over or is it just the schools in and around Buffalo? http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1088 - Release Date: 10/23/2007 1:26 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 I go thurday to my family doctor and on Nov 2 I go to my urologist and foot doctor. I need to make an appointment to the bone doctor tomorrow. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce Hudson Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [ ] I Don't Understand Art, in our posts, you say your legs are swollen badly with the rest of your body. This is the water retention. Severe water retention can cause pain and other health problems. Now you have pain in your legs from 2 problems, arthritis and water retention. Until you see a new doctor, you should not try anything new. Your health is too sensitive with fighting cancer and the cancer medicines. The first thing you need to do is find a new doctor. This will lead to the second thing, which is stabilizing your body. Once your body is stabilized, and this will not happen over night, then you can work on cures. Blessings and Love, Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: Art3 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [ ] I Don't Understand Yes. Is there a cure for arthritis? ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce Hudson Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [ ] I Don't Understand Art, I guess you are asking us because it is stressing you? This is normally not a topic for this group. But it's happening more and more all over. Blessings, Joy -----Message ----- From: Art3 ; circle2012dreams2 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: [ ] I Don't Understand My brother was in high school today and some kid they said brought drugs so they searched everyone and they took my brothers cell phone and ipod but they gave it back after school but he told my mom they gave everyone cavity searches. Now I would think that would be illegal to give students cavity searches. My mom said she is going to call the school and complain about that. Is that like that all over or is it just the schools in and around Buffalo? http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1088 - Release Date: 10/23/2007 1:26 PM No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1088 - Release Date: 10/23/2007 1:26 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 You are going to the same doctors. You will continue to have the same problems, if the doctors do not change their procedures. Blessings, Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: Art3 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [ ] I Don't Understand I go thurday to my family doctor and on Nov 2 I go to my urologist and foot doctor. I need to make an appointment to the bone doctor tomorrow. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce Hudson Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [ ] I Don't Understand Art, in our posts, you say your legs are swollen badly with the rest of your body. This is the water retention. Severe water retention can cause pain and other health problems. Now you have pain in your legs from 2 problems, arthritis and water retention. Until you see a new doctor, you should not try anything new. Your health is too sensitive with fighting cancer and the cancer medicines. The first thing you need to do is find a new doctor. This will lead to the second thing, which is stabilizing your body. Once your body is stabilized, and this will not happen over night, then you can work on cures. Blessings and Love, Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: Art3 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [ ] I Don't Understand Yes. Is there a cure for arthritis? ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce Hudson Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [ ] I Don't Understand Art, I guess you are asking us because it is stressing you? This is normally not a topic for this group. But it's happening more and more all over. Blessings, Joy -----Message ----- From: Art3 ; circle2012dreams2 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: [ ] I Don't Understand My brother was in high school today and some kid they said brought drugs so they searched everyone and they took my brothers cell phone and ipod but they gave it back after school but he told my mom they gave everyone cavity searches. Now I would think that would be illegal to give students cavity searches. My mom said she is going to call the school and complain about that. Is that like that all over or is it just the schools in and around Buffalo? http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1088 - Release Date: 10/23/2007 1:26 PM No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1088 - Release Date: 10/23/2007 1:26 PM No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1088 - Release Date: 10/23/2007 1:26 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Cherry Juice & Cellery (Cellery's the most important) are good... Joy- I don't know why My fathers name comes up on here I think it's becouse the phone bill is in my Fathers name I'm not trying to confuse anybody Art3 <art@...> wrote: A few years ago my doctor said I had too much calcium. I don't know now. It's really cold and damp here and when the weather changes this happens to me. My mom said I need to see a bone boctor for my ankle. I wish I lived in the tropics. ----- Original Message ----- From: atie vande plasse Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [ ] I Don't Understand Art a cure I do not know, but calcium, esp. the plant type by dr Vogel does help with pain to dimishes alot; since I had poli I suffer of regenerative joint and use calcium(as seen on TV from Japan) and also glucosamine and chondroitin, which helps as far as the cartlidge is concerned and I walk quite painfree. However, I live in the tropics, that is a plus to this condition as well. Kind regards, Atiester On 10/23/07, Art3 <artfroggernet> wrote: Yes. Is there a cure for arthritis? ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce Hudson Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [ ] I Don't Understand Art, I guess you are asking us because it is stressing you? This is normally not a topic for this group. But it's happening more and more all over. Blessings, Joy -----Message ----- From: Art3 ; circle2012dreams2 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: [ ] I Don't Understand My brother was in high school today and some kid they said brought drugs so they searched everyone and they took my brothers cell phone and ipod but they gave it back after school but he told my mom they gave everyone cavity searches. Now I would think that would be illegal to give students cavity searches. My mom said she is going to call the school and complain about that. Is that like that all over or is it just the schools in and around Buffalo? http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1088 - Release Date: 10/23/2007 1:26 PM __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 I've started using poke berries - seems to be helping. Been eating 5 a couple times a day for last week or so. And have been drying them for later use. Radiating UNCONDITIONAL LOVE & Truth To ALL who share our circle, our universe, our love, our trust. May I always be found worthy. Gratitude & Thankfulness to All of Us aSoaringHawk Look at everything as though you were seeing it either for the first or last time. Then your time on earth will be filled with joy & glory. Thank you for YOU, Art! http://www.herbalremediesinfo.com/poke.html Pokeroot Uses & Preparation Pokeberries are useful not only as a body paint - which is quite safe; it's only the seeds that are toxic, and then only when chewed. In Appalachian folk medicine, the berries are swallowed as a treatment for arthritis and for immune stimulation - one berry (either fresh or dried) is the equivalent of one drop of root tincture. Pokeroot has traditionally been used in tiny doses as an immune stimulant. This powerful plant actually has a wide range of medicinal uses. But you have to treat it with respect or risk unpleasant side effects. There's a long history of using this common " weed " as a potherb. But don't make the all-too-common mistake of confusing " poke sallit " (the English word for cooked greens) with " poke salad. " DON'T EAT POKE IN A SALAD! It's ONLY considered safe when boiled in three changes of water (traditionally with some pork or " fatback " ). For cooking greens, ONLY harvest when the plant is less than a foot tall. Herbs can rival the effectiveness of antibiotics, and they're generally much gentler on the body. Make a tincture from the root for stimulating the immune system. Many herbalists turn to goldenseal for this purpose, but it's an endangered species. Poke, on the other hand, is a weed - the problem is not having too little of it, but too much. And for most purposes, poke is at least as good, if not better. Pokeroot is best dug in the fall, after the plant has died back. This is when the plant is the most medicinal and the least toxic. The next best time to dig the roots is in the early spring, when the leaves are just coming out (as long as you're sure what you're digging!). Wash the root, chop it into small pieces, fill a jar with the plant material, and then add enough 100-proof alcohol to cover the roots. Leave for six weeks, than strain out the roots. The resulting milky liquid is remarkably mild looking and tasting, considering the punch it packs. Poke is so powerful that it's taken by the DROP. Begin with one to three drops. Wait 24 hours. If that doesn't seem to help, add one drop per day to the dosage (drops, not droppersful!). Individuals show widely varying tolerance for poke. Some people can't handle more than three to five drops per day, while others can take 25 - 50 drops with no adverse effects. The side effects of poke include mental unclarity, spaciness and out-of-body feelings. If you notice such feelings, it means you've found your tolerance level, so back off to a lower dosage. If you take too much (such as mistaking dropperfuls for drops), you may encounter more severe side effects, such as nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. Poke is invaluable as an herbal alternative to antibiotics when immune or lymphatic stimulation is needed. For many generations, this plant has helped people with immune issues ranging from sore throat to breast cancer. There are times when antibiotics are called for - so when in doubt, consult your doctor or herbalist. Poke tincture is a favorite for sore throats, strep throat, severe colds and respiratory infections, Lyme disease, infected gums, swollen lymph glands, breast cysts etc. Studies in Germany and the United States are even finding positive results with HIV, cancer and lymphoma. In addition, it's very effective in treating genital herpes - taking just a few drops when the tingling begins usually prevents the blister phase entirely and reduces the frequency of outbreaks. Pokeroot can also be made into an oil simply by substituting oil for alcohol - preferably olive or coconut oil. You can also melt in some beeswax (which gives it a creamy consistency) and the oil can be made into a balm or salve †" the more beeswax the harder the salve. Both the salve and the oil are used externally to dissolve lumps, bumps, growths and tumors. Many people find them helpful when applied externally to swollen lymph glands, sore throats or breast lumps. Eating the berries Since the seeds are the toxic part, just spit them out. Even if you swallow some seeds, don't worry - they're extremely difficult to break open with your teeth and will come out the other end intact. That's how poke spreads, birds eat the berries, and then the seeds spread through their droppings. Although poke proliferates by seed, the plants are perennial, and the roots will grow larger every year. > > > > Yes. > Is there a cure for arthritis? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 It's because you have created two identities in your Outlook Express or Webmail. Blessings, Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: MELVIN JAENSCH Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [ ] I Don't Understand Cherry Juice & Cellery (Cellery's the most important) are good... Joy- I don't know why My fathers name comes up on here I think it's becouse the phone bill is in my Fathers name I'm not trying to confuse anybody Art3 <art@...> wrote: A few years ago my doctor said I had too much calcium. I don't know now. It's really cold and damp here and when the weather changes this happens to me. My mom said I need to see a bone boctor for my ankle. I wish I lived in the tropics. ----- Original Message ----- From: atie vande plasse Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [ ] I Don't Understand Art a cure I do not know, but calcium, esp. the plant type by dr Vogel does help with pain to dimishes alot; since I had poli I suffer of regenerative joint and use calcium(as seen on TV from Japan) and also glucosamine and chondroitin, which helps as far as the cartlidge is concerned and I walk quite painfree. However, I live in the tropics, that is a plus to this condition as well. Kind regards, Atiester On 10/23/07, Art3 <artfroggernet> wrote: Yes. Is there a cure for arthritis? ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce Hudson Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [ ] I Don't Understand Art, I guess you are asking us because it is stressing you? This is normally not a topic for this group. But it's happening more and more all over. Blessings, Joy -----Message ----- From: Art3 ; circle2012dreams2 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: [ ] I Don't Understand My brother was in high school today and some kid they said brought drugs so they searched everyone and they took my brothers cell phone and ipod but they gave it back after school but he told my mom they gave everyone cavity searches. Now I would think that would be illegal to give students cavity searches. My mom said she is going to call the school and complain about that. Is that like that all over or is it just the schools in and around Buffalo? http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html http://www.webspawner.com/users/relaisxkunst/index.html No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1088 - Release Date: 10/23/2007 1:26 PM __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Thank you Soaring Hawk. I have your information in the files. You have helped with your sharing. Blessings. Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: aSoaringHawk Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:30 PM Subject: [ ] Re: I Don't Understand I've started using poke berries - seems to be helping. Been eating 5 acouple times a day for last week or so. And have been drying them forlater use.Radiating UNCONDITIONAL LOVE & Truth To ALL who share our circle, our universe, our love, our trust. May I always be found worthy.Gratitude & Thankfulness to All of UsaSoaringHawkLook at everything as though you were seeing it either for the firstor last time. Then your time on earth will be filled with joy & glory. Thank you for YOU, Art!http://www.herbalremediesinfo.com/poke.htmlPokeroot Uses & PreparationPokeberries are useful not only as a body paint - which is quite safe;it's only the seeds that are toxic, and then only when chewed. InAppalachian folk medicine, the berries are swallowed as a treatmentfor arthritis and for immune stimulation - one berry (either fresh ordried) is the equivalent of one drop of root tincture.Pokeroot has traditionally been used in tiny doses as an immunestimulant. This powerful plant actually has a wide range of medicinaluses. But you have to treat it with respect or risk unpleasant sideeffects.There's a long history of using this common "weed" as a potherb. Butdon't make the all-too-common mistake of confusing "poke sallit" (theEnglish word for cooked greens) with "poke salad." DON'T EAT POKE IN ASALAD! It's ONLY considered safe when boiled in three changes of water(traditionally with some pork or "fatback"). For cooking greens, ONLYharvest when the plant is less than a foot tall.Herbs can rival the effectiveness of antibiotics, and they'regenerally much gentler on the body. Make a tincture from the root forstimulating the immune system. Many herbalists turn to goldenseal forthis purpose, but it's an endangered species. Poke, on the other hand,is a weed - the problem is not having too little of it, but too much.And for most purposes, poke is at least as good, if not better.Pokeroot is best dug in the fall, after the plant has died back. Thisis when the plant is the most medicinal and the least toxic. The nextbest time to dig the roots is in the early spring, when the leaves arejust coming out (as long as you're sure what you're digging!).Wash the root, chop it into small pieces, fill a jar with the plantmaterial, and then add enough 100-proof alcohol to cover the roots.Leave for six weeks, than strain out the roots. The resulting milkyliquid is remarkably mild looking and tasting, considering the punchit packs.Poke is so powerful that it's taken by the DROP. Begin with one tothree drops. Wait 24 hours. If that doesn't seem to help, add one dropper day to the dosage (drops, not droppersful!).Individuals show widely varying tolerance for poke. Some people can'thandle more than three to five drops per day, while others can take 25- 50 drops with no adverse effects. The side effects of poke includemental unclarity, spaciness and out-of-body feelings. If you noticesuch feelings, it means you've found your tolerance level, so back offto a lower dosage. If you take too much (such as mistaking dropperfulsfor drops), you may encounter more severe side effects, such asnausea, vomiting and diarrhea.Poke is invaluable as an herbal alternative to antibiotics when immuneor lymphatic stimulation is needed. For many generations, this planthas helped people with immune issues ranging from sore throat tobreast cancer. There are times when antibiotics are called for - sowhen in doubt, consult your doctor or herbalist.Poke tincture is a favorite for sore throats, strep throat, severecolds and respiratory infections, Lyme disease, infected gums, swollenlymph glands, breast cysts etc. Studies in Germany and the UnitedStates are even finding positive results with HIV, cancer andlymphoma. In addition, it's very effective in treating genital herpes- taking just a few drops when the tingling begins usually preventsthe blister phase entirely and reduces the frequency of outbreaks.Pokeroot can also be made into an oil simply by substituting oil foralcohol - preferably olive or coconut oil. You can also melt in somebeeswax (which gives it a creamy consistency) and the oil can be madeinto a balm or salve â?" the more beeswax the harder the salve. Both thesalve and the oil are used externally to dissolve lumps, bumps,growths and tumors. Many people find them helpful when appliedexternally to swollen lymph glands, sore throats or breast lumps.Eating the berriesSince the seeds are the toxic part, just spit them out. Even if youswallow some seeds, don't worry - they're extremely difficult to breakopen with your teeth and will come out the other end intact. That's how poke spreads, birds eat the berries, and then the seedsspread through their droppings. Although poke proliferates by seed,the plants are perennial, and the roots will grow larger every year.>> > > Yes. > Is there a cure for arthritis?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 be careful of the leaves!!!!!! --- aSoaringHawk <aSoaringHawk@...> wrote: > I've started using poke berries - seems to be > helping. Been eating 5 a > couple times a day for last week or so. And have > been drying them for > later use. > > > > Radiating UNCONDITIONAL LOVE & Truth > To ALL who share our circle, our universe, our love, > our trust. > May I always be found worthy. > Gratitude & Thankfulness to All of Us > aSoaringHawk > Look at everything as though you were seeing it > either for the first > or last time. Then your time on earth will be filled > with joy & glory. > Thank you for YOU, Art! > > > http://www.herbalremediesinfo.com/poke.html > Pokeroot Uses & Preparation > Pokeberries are useful not only as a body paint - > which is quite safe; > it's only the seeds that are toxic, and then only > when chewed. In > Appalachian folk medicine, the berries are swallowed > as a treatment > for arthritis and for immune stimulation - one berry > (either fresh or > dried) is the equivalent of one drop of root > tincture. > > Pokeroot has traditionally been used in tiny doses > as an immune > stimulant. This powerful plant actually has a wide > range of medicinal > uses. But you have to treat it with respect or risk > unpleasant side > effects. > > There's a long history of using this common " weed " > as a potherb. But > don't make the all-too-common mistake of confusing > " poke sallit " (the > English word for cooked greens) with " poke salad. " > DON'T EAT POKE IN A > SALAD! It's ONLY considered safe when boiled in > three changes of water > (traditionally with some pork or " fatback " ). For > cooking greens, ONLY > harvest when the plant is less than a foot tall. > > Herbs can rival the effectiveness of antibiotics, > and they're > generally much gentler on the body. Make a tincture > from the root for > stimulating the immune system. Many herbalists turn > to goldenseal for > this purpose, but it's an endangered species. Poke, > on the other hand, > is a weed - the problem is not having too little of > it, but too much. > And for most purposes, poke is at least as good, if > not better. > > Pokeroot is best dug in the fall, after the plant > has died back. This > is when the plant is the most medicinal and the > least toxic. The next > best time to dig the roots is in the early spring, > when the leaves are > just coming out (as long as you're sure what you're > digging!). > > Wash the root, chop it into small pieces, fill a jar > with the plant > material, and then add enough 100-proof alcohol to > cover the roots. > Leave for six weeks, than strain out the roots. The > resulting milky > liquid is remarkably mild looking and tasting, > considering the punch > it packs. > > Poke is so powerful that it's taken by the DROP. > Begin with one to > three drops. Wait 24 hours. If that doesn't seem to > help, add one drop > per day to the dosage (drops, not droppersful!). > > Individuals show widely varying tolerance for poke. > Some people can't > handle more than three to five drops per day, while > others can take 25 > - 50 drops with no adverse effects. The side effects > of poke include > mental unclarity, spaciness and out-of-body > feelings. If you notice > such feelings, it means you've found your tolerance > level, so back off > to a lower dosage. If you take too much (such as > mistaking dropperfuls > for drops), you may encounter more severe side > effects, such as > nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. > > Poke is invaluable as an herbal alternative to > antibiotics when immune > or lymphatic stimulation is needed. For many > generations, this plant > has helped people with immune issues ranging from > sore throat to > breast cancer. There are times when antibiotics are > called for - so > when in doubt, consult your doctor or herbalist. > > Poke tincture is a favorite for sore throats, strep > throat, severe > colds and respiratory infections, Lyme disease, > infected gums, swollen > lymph glands, breast cysts etc. Studies in Germany > and the United > States are even finding positive results with HIV, > cancer and > lymphoma. In addition, it's very effective in > treating genital herpes > - taking just a few drops when the tingling begins > usually prevents > the blister phase entirely and reduces the frequency > of outbreaks. > > Pokeroot can also be made into an oil simply by > substituting oil for > alcohol - preferably olive or coconut oil. You can > also melt in some > beeswax (which gives it a creamy consistency) and > the oil can be made > into a balm or salve †" the more beeswax the harder > the salve. Both the > salve and the oil are used externally to dissolve > lumps, bumps, > growths and tumors. Many people find them helpful > when applied > externally to swollen lymph glands, sore throats or > breast lumps. > > Eating the berries > Since the seeds are the toxic part, just spit them > out. Even if you > swallow some seeds, don't worry - they're extremely > difficult to break > open with your teeth and will come out the other end > intact. > That's how poke spreads, birds eat the berries, and > then the seeds > spread through their droppings. Although poke > proliferates by seed, > the plants are perennial, and the roots will grow > larger every year. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > Is there a cure for arthritis? > > > > > Spiritual freedom is my birthright. I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above mental prejudices and stereotypes of others. I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can manipulate me or deceive me. I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and love. Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritual freedom. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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