Thank you!

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" brushing " as much as i know is for sensory int. issues, it helps with

tactile stimulation and is usually done in conjunction with joint

compression, take great care when not doing this directly with an OT, as you

need to use a special " surgical " brush, the kind dr's use to scrub down

before surgery and brushing should be done, as i was told in one direction,

with firm pressure, because if it is too light it will be adversive to the

child...

[Guest guest]

> " To : Thanks for the info- I just have a couple of other

>questions. Is it normal for Cody to be speaking in sign all the

>time?? Someone said we were focusing on sign to much, and not

>enough on speech? "

SPEECH, SIGN LANGUAGE ALL THE SAME TO BRAIN

Communication modes light up same centers

To see the item now, visit HealthScout at

http://www.healthscout.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Af?id=106129 & ap=43.

Here is part of the article.

By Adam Marcus

HealthScout Reporter

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MONDAY, Dec. 4 (HealthScout) -- It might seem that, when it comes to

the way the brain handles information, a conversation in sign

language is a world apart from a telephone call. After all, the first

is video and the second audio.

But Canadian scientists say they've found that deaf people activate

the same brain regions when signing as speakers with undamaged

hearing.

" We've shown that this area, which typically is part of the auditory

language system, does respond to these visual stimuli, " says

Zatorre, a neuroscientist at McGill University in Montreal and co-

author of the paper. " What we have to find out now is why it responds

to these stimuli. "

It could be, Zatorre says, that damage to the auditory language

centers alters the nerves that handle visual language. Or, he says,

it may be that the human brain evolved with a single, basic

translator that processes communication. A report on the findings

appears in the latest issue of the Proceedings of the National

Academy of Sciences.

Some research has suggested that sign language triggers electrical

activity in the brain's language centers. But it has been assumed

that audio cues were processed in discrete areas and visual signals

another.

Zatorre and his colleagues, led by Ann Petitto, used positron

emission tomography -- a scanning technique that measures the blood

flow to tissue -- to examine neurons in areas of the brain thought to

be specific to the production and processing of speech.

The researchers studied 11 people with profound deafness from birth,

who knew either American Sign Language or Langue des Signes

Quebecoise, a French Canadian version of the language. For

comparison, they also included 10 people without hearing trouble.

Same part of brain set off

The subjects were asked to perform five visual language tasks, such

as a twist on word repetition and a verb generation exercise, while

undergoing the brain scans.

In each of these tests, the two groups of subjects had similar brain

activity in the planum temporale, a brain area associated with oral

language. And in a drill to trigger a mental search for verbs, the

deaf subjects also showed neuron activity in the left inferior

frontal cortex, another area that helps process spoken words.

" Both the input and output are quite different, and yet the brain is

really responding in the same way, " Zatorre says. " This area of the

brain is doing something more abstract and more general than just

processing sound. "

Dr. Caplan, a Harvard University neuroscientist and author of

an editorial accompanying the journal article, says the findings

support the theory that humans have a hard-wired ability to

understand language, be it spoken or visual.

" At a higher level of abstraction it's all the same. It doesn't

matter whether the input is visual, verbal, clicks, " or some other

form, Caplan says.

" The brain doesn't seem to care about the modality that's being used

for communication, " agrees Dr. Gannon, director of the

Neurobiology of Language Laboratory at Mt. Sinai School of Medicine

in New York City. " It's communication and language whether it's

auditory or visual. "

Gannon, who has studied the planum temporale in chimps, says a

combined auditory and visual language center for humans jibes with

the way the primates communicate. " Chimps use vocalization but mostly

gestures, " says Gannon.

What's not clear from the work, however, is whether other rapidly

changing stimuli -- traffic patterns, for instance -- trigger the

same sort of brain activity in deaf people, Caplan says. " We don't

know what happens in deaf people in this area when stimuli like that

are presented, " he says.

> " Also, he doesn't go back to the nuero. for a year, is that ok?? She

>also won't recommend Omega3 and Omega6 b/c its not FDA approved. "

Since when is DHA not FDA approved?! It is now! Mc's last time I checked

is not-so would your neuro rather

you feed your child french fry oil than fish oil? Fish oil (DHA) is only FDA

approved in baby formula so far however. Ask your neurologist if it's OK to

give your child baby formula then. (Your son may not be happy with that though)

Or you could be really daring and assume that if fish oil (DHA) has been FDA

approved safe for newborns that it will probably be FDA approved safe for older

kids one day(and even big people like us too). I know-call me crazy because I

think like this.

> " He has night terrors sometimes, and she said she has no suggestions

>for that either. "

Check the archives-we have some things on this.

> " And my finall question- Is it ok to talk this much?? I

> hope I'm not making anyone upset by all my rambling.

> Thanks again_ Matilda-mom of Cody2.10 verbal apraxia and Cole6 "

Very few people talk more than I do. People can not believe that someone like

me has a child that needs to learn to talk. I'm not known as a quiet person

myself!!

Hope that helps!

[Guest guest]

Matilda, ramble on, girl! All of us need to talk it all out! You just say

what you need to say and ask what you need to ask! Isn't there an SLP out

there by you that knows about apraxia? I'm sorry I can't be of any more

help to you!

[Guest guest]

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my son was 2 1/2 he began having them. They started right after he had his

third eye surgery. I believe there was a connection, but can't substantiate

it. Anyway, it was a very frustrating time. I spent 1-2 hours each many

nights with him trying to comfort him. Eventually they just stopped. I

can't rem. how long they lasted - seemed like forever at the time but

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[Guest guest]

Matilda,

I just came into this post, so forgive me if some of

my answers or suggestions have first been offered by

other people on the list. Second, I would definitely

try to find a new SLP if this is possible, and it

doesnt have to necessarily have to know TONS of

apraxia info, but maybe just a base of info, but as

long as the person is willing to LEARN, then that

person could be good choice of therapist. Yes, its

nice to have our questions answered, but its also much

nicer knowing that there is going to be an SLP who is

willing to learn how to best treat your child!

Also, as for the signing... my son Tyler, 2.9 yrs old,

could only speak in sign up until a few weeks ago, the

rest of our family would stress the word along with

the sign, amd he now at least attempts to make a sound

with the sign. Might not be intelligible to people

who don't know him, but at least its a start... and

your child will come to this day as well. Right now

just keep re-inforcing positively for his signing use

(so what he signs for, if possible, give to him) so

that he can learn that words really do have meaning to

other people. Oh, and for the talking... as you can

see, I can keep right on up with you so don't worry,

the more explanatory your emails are, the more help we

will be able to be hopefully!

Kari Belle

Founder: Southern Calfornia Apraxia Association

see us at:

http://www.SouthernCaliApraxia.homestead.com

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

mommy22goughs

Sent: September 10, 2007 8:29 PM

Subject: [ ] Thank you!

I just wanted to say thank you to everyone on this site that is always

so helpful and encouraging. I was diagnosed in May 2007 with WBC of

253,000 and found out today that I am already FISH negative (by

peripheral blood). Praise the Lord! At the beginning I never thought

that this would happen. And even now, I am having a hard time believing

that it happened so quickly.

I have one question though. I thought that the FISH test only tested

200-500 cells but my results said " the limit of detection for this

assay is 1 in 2,000 cells " . My Dr said that I am FISH negative but when

I look at the results, it says the test was RT-PCR. Does this mean that

it wasn't a FISH test, but a not so sensitive PCR test?

Either way, I am thinking this is good news. My birthday is Friday and

I couldn't ask for a better present!

Thanks again to everyone!