Foods containing Histamines

[Guest guest]

Someone recently posted about foods that contain histamines, many of which are

also high in salicylates.

Over the past several months, my doctor and I have determined that most of my

asthma reactions come from allergic reactions, as when I start wheezing, my

rescue inhalers don't help, albuterol treatments don't help, and Advair doesn't

help. The only thing that helps is taking liquid Benadryl. Claritin and

Allegra don't work, but Zyrtec does. I found out that by taking a Zyrtec in the

morning and one in the evening, my asthma symptoms are greatly reduced, and I've

been able to stop taking Advair for the past 3 weeks, which is a great

improvement for me.

However, my polyps are still there, and I seem to constantly fight congestion,

which gets worse after I eat something, which leads me to believe that it may be

histamine related, since antihistamines help counter the reaction.

I searched the internet and found multiple lists of foods that contain

histamines. However, no 2 lists are the same, and most of the lists contradict

each other. as one list will show a food that is safe, and the other will show

the same food as high in histamines.

I do know that tomatoes and ketchup affect me. However, most reactions I have

are many hours after eating, and sometimes hit me after midnight.

Does anyone have or know where I can get an accurate list of foods that contain

histamines? Particularly one that shows the actual levels, so you can gauge

your intake.

Thanks!

Jack

[Guest guest]

Hello Jack.

I found the contradictory lists as well. With more googling, I found some

better sources. They say vitamin C and B6 can help. Also, folks are doing DAO

(diamine oxidase, a digestive enzyme that may be deficient in allergy sufferers)

supplementation.

http://www.ajcn.org/content/85/5/1185.full.pdf+html

http://www.allergynutrition.com/resources/FAQ/4/Histamine%20intolerance.pdf

Also... all sugar is " bad " , including fruit juice and cane sugar, not just corn

syrup, because they all contain fructose.

>

> Someone recently posted about foods that contain histamines, many of which are

also high in salicylates.

>

> Over the past several months, my doctor and I have determined that most of my

asthma reactions come from allergic reactions, as when I start wheezing, my

rescue inhalers don't help, albuterol treatments don't help, and Advair doesn't

help. The only thing that helps is taking liquid Benadryl. Claritin and

Allegra don't work, but Zyrtec does. I found out that by taking a Zyrtec in the

morning and one in the evening, my asthma symptoms are greatly reduced, and I've

been able to stop taking Advair for the past 3 weeks, which is a great

improvement for me.

>

> However, my polyps are still there, and I seem to constantly fight congestion,

which gets worse after I eat something, which leads me to believe that it may be

histamine related, since antihistamines help counter the reaction.

>

> I searched the internet and found multiple lists of foods that contain

histamines. However, no 2 lists are the same, and most of the lists contradict

each other. as one list will show a food that is safe, and the other will show

the same food as high in histamines.

>

> I do know that tomatoes and ketchup affect me. However, most reactions I have

are many hours after eating, and sometimes hit me after midnight.

>

> Does anyone have or know where I can get an accurate list of foods that

contain histamines? Particularly one that shows the actual levels, so you can

gauge your intake.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Jack

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you ! I downloaded and read both articles. Very informative,

especially as they mention the histamine relase in the large intestine, which

may help explain why my reactions are typically 12 or more hours after I eat

something. Makes it difficult to determine what I'm reacting to since its

usually a long time after I eat, and it usually takes 2-3 days for the reaction

to wear off.

I've been taking Ester C supplements, but haven't noticed any significant

improvements. Will add the B6 and see what happens after a couple of weeks.

Will keep researching DAO and discuss it with my doctor in a couple of weeks.

Here's what I found that seems to be consistent about foods that are high in

histamines:

" Foods high in histamine (including fermented foods) include alcoholic

beverages, especially beer, champagne and wine, anchovies, avocados, cheeses,

especially aged or fermented cheese, such as parmesan, blue and Roquefort, dried

fruits such as apricots, dates, figs, prunes, and raisins, fermented foods such

as pickled or smoked meats, sauerkraut, etc., mushrooms, processed meats such as

sausage, hot dogs, salami, etc., sardines, smoked fish such as herring, sour

cream, sour milk, buttermilk and yogurt - especially if not fresh, soured

breads, such as pumpernickel, coffee cakes and other foods made with large

amounts of yeast, spinach, tomatoes, vinegar or vinegar-containing foods, such

as mayonnaise, salad dressing, ketchup, chili sauce, pickles, pickled beets,

relishes, olives.

Foods that release histamine include alcohol, bananas, chocolate, eggs, fish,

milk, papayas, pineapple, shellfish, strawberries, and tomatoes. "

There are only about 4-5 foods on this list that I eat with any frequency, so

eliminating them for a couple of weeks will be pretty easy. So much for my

healty salads - spinich, tomatoes, avacado, salad dressing - they are killing

me!

Found a recipe for " Ice Cube Soup " - think it will be something I wont react to.

Thanks again

Jack

> >

> > Someone recently posted about foods that contain histamines, many of which

are also high in salicylates.

> >

> > Over the past several months, my doctor and I have determined that most of

my asthma reactions come from allergic reactions, as when I start wheezing, my

rescue inhalers don't help, albuterol treatments don't help, and Advair doesn't

help. The only thing that helps is taking liquid Benadryl. Claritin and

Allegra don't work, but Zyrtec does. I found out that by taking a Zyrtec in the

morning and one in the evening, my asthma symptoms are greatly reduced, and I've

been able to stop taking Advair for the past 3 weeks, which is a great

improvement for me.

> >

> > However, my polyps are still there, and I seem to constantly fight

congestion, which gets worse after I eat something, which leads me to believe

that it may be histamine related, since antihistamines help counter the

reaction.

> >

> > I searched the internet and found multiple lists of foods that contain

histamines. However, no 2 lists are the same, and most of the lists contradict

each other. as one list will show a food that is safe, and the other will show

the same food as high in histamines.

> >

> > I do know that tomatoes and ketchup affect me. However, most reactions I

have are many hours after eating, and sometimes hit me after midnight.

> >

> > Does anyone have or know where I can get an accurate list of foods that

contain histamines? Particularly one that shows the actual levels, so you can

gauge your intake.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Jack

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Nils

I've been getting allergy shots for over 5 years now, but I dont think what I'm

getting the shots for are whats causing my problems. It typically takes years

of shots for your body to build up a resistance to those specific allergies.

I'm going to try eliminating the foods that contain histamines first for 2-3

weeks, and see what happens. I don't want to take fish oil as it also acts as a

blood thinner, and since I take aspirin every day, it could make things worse.

I'll discuss it with my doctor in a couple of weeks. I had been taking 15000 to

20000 units of Vitamin D for several months, but didn't notice any improvement.

I'm outside a lot and get 2-3 hours of sunlight each day, so I'm pretty sure I

get enough natural Vitamin D.

Still also taking a strong probiotic each day. It may be helping a bit too.

Thanks again.

Jack

> >

> > Someone recently posted about foods that contain histamines, many of which

are

> >also high in salicylates.

> >

> > Over the past several months, my doctor and I have determined that most of

my

> >asthma reactions come from allergic reactions, as when I start wheezing, my

> >rescue inhalers don't help, albuterol treatments don't help, and Advair

doesn't

> >help. The only thing that helps is taking liquid Benadryl. Claritin and

> >Allegra don't work, but Zyrtec does. I found out that by taking a Zyrtec in

the

> >morning and one in the evening, my asthma symptoms are greatly reduced, and

I've

> >been able to stop taking Advair for the past 3 weeks, which is a great

> >improvement for me.

> >

> > However, my polyps are still there, and I seem to constantly fight

congestion,

> >which gets worse after I eat something, which leads me to believe that it may

be

> >histamine related, since antihistamines help counter the reaction.

> >

> > I searched the internet and found multiple lists of foods that contain

> >histamines. However, no 2 lists are the same, and most of the lists

contradict

> >each other. as one list will show a food that is safe, and the other will

show

> >the same food as high in histamines.

> >

> > I do know that tomatoes and ketchup affect me. However, most reactions I

have

> >are many hours after eating, and sometimes hit me after midnight.

> >

> > Does anyone have or know where I can get an accurate list of foods that

contain

> >histamines? Particularly one that shows the actual levels, so you can gauge

> >your intake.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Jack

> >

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