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Yes, many of us started with a bout of mono. But which really came first?

Maybe we were susceptible because of an inherent weakness or we were already

sick. I believe it is an oversimplification to think leaky gut is the

" cause " . It could be the cause of some people's problems, but some of us

have fine guts with no leaks. There probably are multiple things that cause

symptoms, and they vary from person to person. Could be they are different

things. Or maybe they are just symptoms of something we all have in common.

Personally antibiotics have helped me more than anything else I have done.

B12 shots are second.

Thanks,

Doris

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From: " lillog8 " <lillog8@...>

> i am new to this group and have only been a chronic fatigue sufferer

> for a year. i am unclear as to what the major steps most of you take

> to cure yourselves. in looking at back posts i see a lot of talk of

> antibiotics, and from my experience with traditional chinese medicine

> (TCM) from before and during the last year, i would consider

> antibiotics to be an absolute no-no. additionally, i believe the most

> plausible theory of chronic fatige is the leaky gut syndrome

> accompanied with an overgrowth of candida in the intestines. i have

> seen people on this site talking about vaginal yeast infections and

> fungal infections of the feet. these are great signs of candida

> overgrowth in the intestines. these are the same people that are

> talking about taking antibiotics and hence killing friendly bacteria

> and increasing the yeast growth. have any of you had success

> attacking this disorder with this theory in mind. or no success? the

> only problem i have with this theory is that my CFS started with a

> bout of mono. is that common?

>

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

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Hi lillog,

I'm sorry to hear you have this dd. Personally, I find the TCM stance

on our condition to be very plausible. However, I know there are many

pwcs who think it is all hogwash. Our dd cannot be cured although some

pwcs have long remissions and supposedly some never relapse again

although I don't know of any actual cases myself. I think candita of

the intestine is a big problem for pwcs because our immune systems are

so whacky though I don't think it's a cause of the dd itself. Many pwcs

have had viral onset with flu or mono like symptoms for a year or so

before being dx with CFIDS. I'm one of them. Others say they got ill

gradually and some attribute their illness to antibiotics and some to

vaccines.

I have found that I cannot tolerate any western medicine but I do

respond well to homeopathy or herbs. So I do accupuncture once a week

and get herbal formulas individualized for my sx. The candita diet has

helped me many times with this dd. I've had CFIDS for 16 years. I've

gone into remissions enough to be able to teach full time for 11 years,

oh, and finish college first. However, this dd strikes everyone

differently and someone else with it could have followed my diet and

exercise program and not have fared well at all.

Some people feel much better on antibiotics, my body simply won't

tolerate them so they're not an option for me. Nothing I'ver tried has

cured me but I feel that I'm able to control alot of my sx which can at

least give me some relief at worst and has allowed me to be fully

functional in life at best.

Tracey

lillog8 wrote:

> i am new to this group and have only been a chronic fatigue sufferer

> for a year. i am unclear as to what the major steps most of you take

> to cure yourselves. in looking at back posts i see a lot of talk of

> antibiotics, and from my experience with traditional chinese medicine

> (TCM) from before and during the last year, i would consider

> antibiotics to be an absolute no-no. additionally, i believe the most

> plausible theory of chronic fatige is the leaky gut syndrome

> accompanied with an overgrowth of candida in the intestines. i have

> seen people on this site talking about vaginal yeast infections and

> fungal infections of the feet. these are great signs of candida

> overgrowth in the intestines. these are the same people that are

> talking about taking antibiotics and hence killing friendly bacteria

> and increasing the yeast growth. have any of you had success

> attacking this disorder with this theory in mind. or no success? the

> only problem i have with this theory is that my CFS started with a

> bout of mono. is that common?

>

>

>

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Welcome to the group. For the past two years, I have had repeated various

gut tests and we have yet to find any Candida. I do however, do an anti-Candida

diet as I am just so used to it now. I am the queen of bladder and urinary

tract infections and so far have been able to manage them with a bunch of

different things. Most of the credit goes to Homeopathy...I have taken only one

antibiotic in the past 1 1/2 years which is a miracle.

Tests show that I have no leaky gut and my CDSA's continue to look pretty

decent. Recent changes in my probiotics have really worked and I have lots of

good guys now. Yet, I am still sick with MCS/CFS. I was immune compromised due

to an estrogen based drug given to my mother while in Utero and have lead an

exhausted infection filled life. In spite of that, it took my chemical

poisioning (another estrogen based drug!) in 1999 for my cup to overflow and

here I am now with MCS and CFIDS. It never ceases to amaze me what seems to

trigger us.

My enviromental doc has played the biggest part in my action plan on how to

get better and that has included a bunch of different things. The most

emphasized past of my program has been to detox yet I have to be healthy enough

to actually do it. I am currently concentrating on trying to build myself up a

little for my upcoming detox program. I also started something new recently

which is Polarity Therapy. It is really helping me and I wish I could afford to

go more than I do. And of course this list of supplements, some very expensive,

is very long.

I wish you the best. Has the TCM helped you at all?

Kathy

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Wow Kathy. Sounds like a hard road. I am so sorry for all you have suffered.

On the detox issue, Have you heard of the Miracle ll soap for non stressful

detox. I have not used it but have heard good things. I wonder if you or

others on this list have tried it.

Donna

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Re: leaky gut syndrome

snip

Some people feel much better on antibiotics, my body simply won't

tolerate them so they're not an option for me.

snip

Tracey

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Me either Tracey. Just the tiniest bit of antibiotic makes me feel like I am

going to die. And I am not exaggerting. I literally felt like I was going to

die.

Donna

lillog8 wrote:

> i am new to this group and have only been a chronic fatigue sufferer

> for a year. i am unclear as to what the major steps most of you take

> to cure yourselves. in looking at back posts i see a lot of talk of

> antibiotics, and from my experience with traditional chinese medicine

> (TCM) from before and during the last year, i would consider

> antibiotics to be an absolute no-no. additionally, i believe the most

> plausible theory of chronic fatige is the leaky gut syndrome

> accompanied with an overgrowth of candida in the intestines. i have

> seen people on this site talking about vaginal yeast infections and

> fungal infections of the feet. these are great signs of candida

> overgrowth in the intestines. these are the same people that are

> talking about taking antibiotics and hence killing friendly bacteria

> and increasing the yeast growth. have any of you had success

> attacking this disorder with this theory in mind. or no success? the

> only problem i have with this theory is that my CFS started with a

> bout of mono. is that common?

>

>

>

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Hi Donna,

I know you're not kidding, but it's frustrating when the doctors don't

get it. I haven't needed abx since 1989 though now that I found out how

to cure things or stave them off naturally. (The things that can be

cured, that is.) I did need some once when I was in Mexico in '94

because I got a stomach infection and didn't know where to go for

natural remedies. I was dragging my left foot around within' 2 days

because the abx were attacking me so badly, or allowing bad bacteria to

attack me. In Mexico they don't believe you need to finish the courses

anyway so the doc had no problem taking me off. Within' 2 more days I

was better again except for the CFIDS of course.)

TJ

Donna wrote:

>

> Re: leaky gut syndrome

>

>

> snip

> Some people feel much better on antibiotics, my body simply won't

> tolerate them so they're not an option for me.

>

> snip

> Tracey

>

> 000000000000000000000000

> Me either Tracey. Just the tiniest bit of antibiotic makes me feel

> like I am going to die. And I am not exaggerting. I literally felt

> like I was going to die.

> Donna

>

>

>

>

> lillog8 wrote:

>

> > i am new to this group and have only been a chronic fatigue

> sufferer

> > for a year. i am unclear as to what the major steps most of you

> take

> > to cure yourselves. in looking at back posts i see a lot of talk

> of

> > antibiotics, and from my experience with traditional chinese

> medicine

> > (TCM) from before and during the last year, i would consider

> > antibiotics to be an absolute no-no. additionally, i believe the

> most

> > plausible theory of chronic fatige is the leaky gut syndrome

> > accompanied with an overgrowth of candida in the intestines. i

> have

> > seen people on this site talking about vaginal yeast infections

> and

> > fungal infections of the feet. these are great signs of candida

> > overgrowth in the intestines. these are the same people that are

> > talking about taking antibiotics and hence killing friendly

> bacteria

> > and increasing the yeast growth. have any of you had success

> > attacking this disorder with this theory in mind. or no success?

> the

> > only problem i have with this theory is that my CFS started with a

>

> > bout of mono. is that common?

> >

> >

> >

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Yikes. I guess the lesson is, don't go anywhere far from home without Olive

Leaf Extract and some other natural anti biotics like acidophilus and garlic,

maybe some oregano oil. Any other suggestions, anyone.

Donna

Re: leaky gut syndrome

>

>

> snip

> Some people feel much better on antibiotics, my body simply won't

> tolerate them so they're not an option for me.

>

> snip

> Tracey

>

> 000000000000000000000000

> Me either Tracey. Just the tiniest bit of antibiotic makes me feel

> like I am going to die. And I am not exaggerting. I literally felt

> like I was going to die.

> Donna

>

>

>

>

> lillog8 wrote:

>

> > i am new to this group and have only been a chronic fatigue

> sufferer

> > for a year. i am unclear as to what the major steps most of you

> take

> > to cure yourselves. in looking at back posts i see a lot of talk

> of

> > antibiotics, and from my experience with traditional chinese

> medicine

> > (TCM) from before and during the last year, i would consider

> > antibiotics to be an absolute no-no. additionally, i believe the

> most

> > plausible theory of chronic fatige is the leaky gut syndrome

> > accompanied with an overgrowth of candida in the intestines. i

> have

> > seen people on this site talking about vaginal yeast infections

> and

> > fungal infections of the feet. these are great signs of candida

> > overgrowth in the intestines. these are the same people that are

> > talking about taking antibiotics and hence killing friendly

> bacteria

> > and increasing the yeast growth. have any of you had success

> > attacking this disorder with this theory in mind. or no success?

> the

> > only problem i have with this theory is that my CFS started with a

>

> > bout of mono. is that common?

> >

> >

> >

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That's true. I should ask at my health food store before I travel for

remedies that could help me with bugs I encounter. Those abx did do the

trick though and I'm certain I caught something really vicious. In a

case like that I may take abx because I think they were warranted. I

didn't have to go out to see adoctor because we were staying with one,

so it was easy for me too. But it's been really nice to have needed

them besides then for so many years.

Tracey

Donna wrote:

> Yikes. I guess the lesson is, don't go anywhere far from home

> without Olive Leaf Extract and some other natural anti biotics like

> acidophilus and garlic, maybe some oregano oil. Any other suggestions,

> anyone.

>

> Donna

> Re: leaky gut syndrome

> >

> >

> > snip

> > Some people feel much better on antibiotics, my body simply

> won't

> > tolerate them so they're not an option for me.

> >

> > snip

> > Tracey

> >

> > 000000000000000000000000

> > Me either Tracey. Just the tiniest bit of antibiotic makes me

> feel

> > like I am going to die. And I am not exaggerting. I literally

> felt

> > like I was going to die.

> > Donna

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > lillog8 wrote:

> >

> > > i am new to this group and have only been a chronic fatigue

> > sufferer

> > > for a year. i am unclear as to what the major steps most of

> you

> > take

> > > to cure yourselves. in looking at back posts i see a lot of

> talk

> > of

> > > antibiotics, and from my experience with traditional chinese

> > medicine

> > > (TCM) from before and during the last year, i would consider

> > > antibiotics to be an absolute no-no. additionally, i believe

> the

> > most

> > > plausible theory of chronic fatige is the leaky gut syndrome

> > > accompanied with an overgrowth of candida in the intestines. i

>

> > have

> > > seen people on this site talking about vaginal yeast

> infections

> > and

> > > fungal infections of the feet. these are great signs of

> candida

> > > overgrowth in the intestines. these are the same people that

> are

> > > talking about taking antibiotics and hence killing friendly

> > bacteria

> > > and increasing the yeast growth. have any of you had success

> > > attacking this disorder with this theory in mind. or no

> success?

> > the

> > > only problem i have with this theory is that my CFS started

> with a

> >

> > > bout of mono. is that common?

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Hi Donna,

I would also add to the list wormwood, cloves and black walnut (for parasites),

as well as colloidal silver. (I also use all of the herbs that you

mention--they are all personal favorites.)

Kind regards,

Trudy

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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 11:39:08 -0700

From: " Donna " <ruthful@...>

Subject: Re: leaky gut syndrome

Yikes. I guess the lesson is, don't go anywhere far from home without Olive

Leaf Extract and some other natural anti biotics like acidophilus and garlic,

maybe some oregano oil. Any other suggestions, anyone.

Donna

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Thank you Trudy and Donna.

I saved this to file :)

Tracey

Trudy Newman wrote:

> Hi Donna,

>

> I would also add to the list wormwood, cloves and black walnut (for

> parasites), as well as colloidal silver. (I also use all of the herbs

> that you mention--they are all personal favorites.)

>

> Kind regards,

> Trudy

>

>

> Message: 14

> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 11:39:08 -0700

> From: " Donna " <ruthful@...>

> Subject: Re: leaky gut syndrome

>

> Yikes. I guess the lesson is, don't go anywhere far from home without

> Olive Leaf Extract and some other natural anti biotics like

> acidophilus and garlic, maybe some oregano oil. Any other suggestions,

> anyone.

>

> Donna

>

>

>

>

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Has anyone considered " Leaky Gut Syndrome " as a source of their asthma,

allergies, and Samters?

It seems that any time I ingest something that I'm sensitive to or allergic to

(carrageenan, MSG, vinegar, amines, etc), my allergic reactions (wheezing,

swollen sinuses, congestion) don't occur for sometimes 10-16 hours later. (It

took many months of keeping detailed logs and eating the same thing for days and

adding one new food to figure out what the main triggers were).

I think my Samters may have been caused about 8 years ago from taking

alka-seltzer cold supplements for several days (first time in my life I took

aspirin), and was also going thru a very stressful event in my life.

Some doctors have suggested that I may have Leaky Gut, which is allowing the

allergens to enter the bloodstream directly from a leak somewhere in my

intestines, which is why the allergic reaction is delayed (and with rapid

onset). I can be sitting at work in the morning, and have a sudden asthma

attack from something I ate the night before. They call it " leaky gut

syndrome " , meaning it's a theory, but nothing that can easily be diagnosed

without lots and lots of tests and procedures.

Leaky Gut can be caused by some of our favorite Samterite drugs: NSAIDs

(aspirin), prednisone, antibiotics, and caffeine.

I did quite a bit of research on ways to heal leaky gut, and have been on a

regiment for almost 4 weeks now, but have not really noticed any significant

improvement. That regiment includes L-Glutamine, very strong probiotics, Aloe

Vera juice, licorice based supplements, Vitamin A, magnesium, calcium, and

oregano.

I've read many articles, and it seems each one discusses various regiments with

some similarities but no two really alike or based on real medical research.

Has anyone out there considered Leaky Gut as contributing to their Samters

condition, or done any research on it? If so, have you had any successes with

avoiding certain foods or trying any treatments?

Please do some research on " Leaky Gut Syndrome " and see if anything may apply to

your condition.

I'm going to stay on this regiment (have plenty of health food stores nearby)

for at least another 3-4 months, as I'm sure any gut healing process will take

time, and since I'm still taking aspirin each day, it's not helping things any.

By the way, I take Adviar once a day (most days), Zyrtec daily, and 325-500 mg

of aspirin a day (4-6 baby aspirin, 2-3 in the morning, and 2-3 in the afternoon

with meals). Singular doesn't work for me, nor does Claritn. Took Singular

before and after my one and only sinus surgery about 4 years ago, and the polyps

were back within 3 months. Was even taking 2 a day, which didn't help. When I

feel an attack coming on, I take a Zyflo CR (miracle pill for me), which starts

to work in 30-60 minutes, and I may take Benadryl if it's closer to bed time.

Still have nasal polyps that swell up with any allergic reaction, and the only

relief is from a short 4-5 day burst of prednisone, which I try to limit to a

few times a year. Haven't had a SOS in years, but after prednisone bursts, or

after an annual steroid shot before taking an annual overseas trip, my sinus

swelling goes down considerably, and I can breathe great thru my nose, and food

tastes fantastic for about 2-3 weeks. My sinuses and lungs seem to be overly

sensitive after all these years. Any rapid changes in temperatures (e.g. going

from a cold air conditioned building to a hot outside) and I start wheezing a

bit, and my sinuses swell up with congestion. I know I may have to get another

sinus surgery at some point, but I want to wait till I know I can keep the

polyps from coming back.

I try to eat well and walk for 30 minutes at least 4 times a week (sometimes

take a puff from the rescue inhaler before walking). I haven't experienced any

depression, but I don't sleep very deeply due to the constant congestion, which

gets worse when I lay down. I haven't experienced any sort of depression or

suicidal thoughts, and seem to feel the best when I'm at work and moving around

or just keeping busy. I try to keep a very positive attitude, and with God's

help, I'm not going to let this annoying condition control my life.

Thanks to everyone for your posts. They are truly helpful, and hopefully we can

all work together to find a cause and cure for this.

Jack.

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Hi Jack -

I definitely think I have Leaky Gut (that name just kills me!) After I have

ingested one of my trigger foods/drinks, I usually don't get sick until the next

morning. I don't get any asthma, (been under control for a while) I just get a

toxic reaction (nausea, headache, lethargy). Try to keep my diet healthy and

take probiotics and loads of supplements. Noticed that L-Glutamine does wonders

for my stuffy drippy nose.

I am also doing an aspirin desens in two weeks.

Good luck!

>

> Has anyone considered " Leaky Gut Syndrome " as a source of their asthma,

allergies, and Samters?

>

> It seems that any time I ingest something that I'm sensitive to or allergic to

(carrageenan, MSG, vinegar, amines, etc), my allergic reactions (wheezing,

swollen sinuses, congestion) don't occur for sometimes 10-16 hours later. (It

took many months of keeping detailed logs and eating the same thing for days and

adding one new food to figure out what the main triggers were).

>

> I think my Samters may have been caused about 8 years ago from taking

alka-seltzer cold supplements for several days (first time in my life I took

aspirin), and was also going thru a very stressful event in my life.

>

> Some doctors have suggested that I may have Leaky Gut, which is allowing the

allergens to enter the bloodstream directly from a leak somewhere in my

intestines, which is why the allergic reaction is delayed (and with rapid

onset). I can be sitting at work in the morning, and have a sudden asthma

attack from something I ate the night before. They call it " leaky gut

syndrome " , meaning it's a theory, but nothing that can easily be diagnosed

without lots and lots of tests and procedures.

>

> Leaky Gut can be caused by some of our favorite Samterite drugs: NSAIDs

(aspirin), prednisone, antibiotics, and caffeine.

>

> I did quite a bit of research on ways to heal leaky gut, and have been on a

regiment for almost 4 weeks now, but have not really noticed any significant

improvement. That regiment includes L-Glutamine, very strong probiotics, Aloe

Vera juice, licorice based supplements, Vitamin A, magnesium, calcium, and

oregano.

>

> I've read many articles, and it seems each one discusses various regiments

with some similarities but no two really alike or based on real medical

research.

>

> Has anyone out there considered Leaky Gut as contributing to their Samters

condition, or done any research on it? If so, have you had any successes with

avoiding certain foods or trying any treatments?

>

> Please do some research on " Leaky Gut Syndrome " and see if anything may apply

to your condition.

>

> I'm going to stay on this regiment (have plenty of health food stores nearby)

for at least another 3-4 months, as I'm sure any gut healing process will take

time, and since I'm still taking aspirin each day, it's not helping things any.

>

> By the way, I take Adviar once a day (most days), Zyrtec daily, and 325-500 mg

of aspirin a day (4-6 baby aspirin, 2-3 in the morning, and 2-3 in the afternoon

with meals). Singular doesn't work for me, nor does Claritn. Took Singular

before and after my one and only sinus surgery about 4 years ago, and the polyps

were back within 3 months. Was even taking 2 a day, which didn't help. When I

feel an attack coming on, I take a Zyflo CR (miracle pill for me), which starts

to work in 30-60 minutes, and I may take Benadryl if it's closer to bed time.

Still have nasal polyps that swell up with any allergic reaction, and the only

relief is from a short 4-5 day burst of prednisone, which I try to limit to a

few times a year. Haven't had a SOS in years, but after prednisone bursts, or

after an annual steroid shot before taking an annual overseas trip, my sinus

swelling goes down considerably, and I can breathe great thru my nose, and food

tastes fantastic for about 2-3 weeks. My sinuses and lungs seem to be overly

sensitive after all these years. Any rapid changes in temperatures (e.g. going

from a cold air conditioned building to a hot outside) and I start wheezing a

bit, and my sinuses swell up with congestion. I know I may have to get another

sinus surgery at some point, but I want to wait till I know I can keep the

polyps from coming back.

>

> I try to eat well and walk for 30 minutes at least 4 times a week (sometimes

take a puff from the rescue inhaler before walking). I haven't experienced any

depression, but I don't sleep very deeply due to the constant congestion, which

gets worse when I lay down. I haven't experienced any sort of depression or

suicidal thoughts, and seem to feel the best when I'm at work and moving around

or just keeping busy. I try to keep a very positive attitude, and with God's

help, I'm not going to let this annoying condition control my life.

>

> Thanks to everyone for your posts. They are truly helpful, and hopefully we

can all work together to find a cause and cure for this.

>

> Jack.

>

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I think we have to be hypervigilant re: our diet and food. Samter's started for

me during a very stressful time along with a very poor diet. I have a book on

" leaky gut " but have gone even further. Try to do organic and alot of juicing.

NO sugar and I read all labels. Thanks for your informative post ...

>

> Has anyone considered " Leaky Gut Syndrome " as a source of their asthma,

allergies, and Samters?

>

> It seems that any time I ingest something that I'm sensitive to or allergic to

(carrageenan, MSG, vinegar, amines, etc), my allergic reactions (wheezing,

swollen sinuses, congestion) don't occur for sometimes 10-16 hours later. (It

took many months of keeping detailed logs and eating the same thing for days and

adding one new food to figure out what the main triggers were).

>

> I think my Samters may have been caused about 8 years ago from taking

alka-seltzer cold supplements for several days (first time in my life I took

aspirin), and was also going thru a very stressful event in my life.

>

> Some doctors have suggested that I may have Leaky Gut, which is allowing the

allergens to enter the bloodstream directly from a leak somewhere in my

intestines, which is why the allergic reaction is delayed (and with rapid

onset). I can be sitting at work in the morning, and have a sudden asthma

attack from something I ate the night before. They call it " leaky gut

syndrome " , meaning it's a theory, but nothing that can easily be diagnosed

without lots and lots of tests and procedures.

>

> Leaky Gut can be caused by some of our favorite Samterite drugs: NSAIDs

(aspirin), prednisone, antibiotics, and caffeine.

>

> I did quite a bit of research on ways to heal leaky gut, and have been on a

regiment for almost 4 weeks now, but have not really noticed any significant

improvement. That regiment includes L-Glutamine, very strong probiotics, Aloe

Vera juice, licorice based supplements, Vitamin A, magnesium, calcium, and

oregano.

>

> I've read many articles, and it seems each one discusses various regiments

with some similarities but no two really alike or based on real medical

research.

>

> Has anyone out there considered Leaky Gut as contributing to their Samters

condition, or done any research on it? If so, have you had any successes with

avoiding certain foods or trying any treatments?

>

> Please do some research on " Leaky Gut Syndrome " and see if anything may apply

to your condition.

>

> I'm going to stay on this regiment (have plenty of health food stores nearby)

for at least another 3-4 months, as I'm sure any gut healing process will take

time, and since I'm still taking aspirin each day, it's not helping things any.

>

> By the way, I take Adviar once a day (most days), Zyrtec daily, and 325-500 mg

of aspirin a day (4-6 baby aspirin, 2-3 in the morning, and 2-3 in the afternoon

with meals). Singular doesn't work for me, nor does Claritn. Took Singular

before and after my one and only sinus surgery about 4 years ago, and the polyps

were back within 3 months. Was even taking 2 a day, which didn't help. When I

feel an attack coming on, I take a Zyflo CR (miracle pill for me), which starts

to work in 30-60 minutes, and I may take Benadryl if it's closer to bed time.

Still have nasal polyps that swell up with any allergic reaction, and the only

relief is from a short 4-5 day burst of prednisone, which I try to limit to a

few times a year. Haven't had a SOS in years, but after prednisone bursts, or

after an annual steroid shot before taking an annual overseas trip, my sinus

swelling goes down considerably, and I can breathe great thru my nose, and food

tastes fantastic for about 2-3 weeks. My sinuses and lungs seem to be overly

sensitive after all these years. Any rapid changes in temperatures (e.g. going

from a cold air conditioned building to a hot outside) and I start wheezing a

bit, and my sinuses swell up with congestion. I know I may have to get another

sinus surgery at some point, but I want to wait till I know I can keep the

polyps from coming back.

>

> I try to eat well and walk for 30 minutes at least 4 times a week (sometimes

take a puff from the rescue inhaler before walking). I haven't experienced any

depression, but I don't sleep very deeply due to the constant congestion, which

gets worse when I lay down. I haven't experienced any sort of depression or

suicidal thoughts, and seem to feel the best when I'm at work and moving around

or just keeping busy. I try to keep a very positive attitude, and with God's

help, I'm not going to let this annoying condition control my life.

>

> Thanks to everyone for your posts. They are truly helpful, and hopefully we

can all work together to find a cause and cure for this.

>

> Jack.

>

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I have not posted in a long time because I am feeling good. I absolutely think that it is Leaky Gut and you need to add a high quality probiotic to your healthy food regimen. This will replace the good lining of your bowels that antibiotics have eliminated. I use Kefir. I think you are on the right track. From: laurahlennon <lbl626@...>samters Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 6:03 AMSubject: Re: Leaky Gut Syndrome

I think we have to be hypervigilant re: our diet and food. Samter's started for me during a very stressful time along with a very poor diet. I have a book on "leaky gut" but have gone even further. Try to do organic and alot of juicing. NO sugar and I read all labels. Thanks for your informative post ...

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> Has anyone considered "Leaky Gut Syndrome" as a source of their asthma, allergies, and Samters?

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> It seems that any time I ingest something that I'm sensitive to or allergic to (carrageenan, MSG, vinegar, amines, etc), my allergic reactions (wheezing, swollen sinuses, congestion) don't occur for sometimes 10-16 hours later. (It took many months of keeping detailed logs and eating the same thing for days and adding one new food to figure out what the main triggers were).

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> I think my Samters may have been caused about 8 years ago from taking alka-seltzer cold supplements for several days (first time in my life I took aspirin), and was also going thru a very stressful event in my life.

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> Some doctors have suggested that I may have Leaky Gut, which is allowing the allergens to enter the bloodstream directly from a leak somewhere in my intestines, which is why the allergic reaction is delayed (and with rapid onset). I can be sitting at work in the morning, and have a sudden asthma attack from something I ate the night before. They call it "leaky gut syndrome", meaning it's a theory, but nothing that can easily be diagnosed without lots and lots of tests and procedures.

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> Leaky Gut can be caused by some of our favorite Samterite drugs: NSAIDs (aspirin), prednisone, antibiotics, and caffeine.

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> I did quite a bit of research on ways to heal leaky gut, and have been on a regiment for almost 4 weeks now, but have not really noticed any significant improvement. That regiment includes L-Glutamine, very strong probiotics, Aloe Vera juice, licorice based supplements, Vitamin A, magnesium, calcium, and oregano.

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> I've read many articles, and it seems each one discusses various regiments with some similarities but no two really alike or based on real medical research.

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> Has anyone out there considered Leaky Gut as contributing to their Samters condition, or done any research on it? If so, have you had any successes with avoiding certain foods or trying any treatments?

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> Please do some research on "Leaky Gut Syndrome" and see if anything may apply to your condition.

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> I'm going to stay on this regiment (have plenty of health food stores nearby) for at least another 3-4 months, as I'm sure any gut healing process will take time, and since I'm still taking aspirin each day, it's not helping things any.

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> By the way, I take Adviar once a day (most days), Zyrtec daily, and 325-500 mg of aspirin a day (4-6 baby aspirin, 2-3 in the morning, and 2-3 in the afternoon with meals). Singular doesn't work for me, nor does Claritn. Took Singular before and after my one and only sinus surgery about 4 years ago, and the polyps were back within 3 months. Was even taking 2 a day, which didn't help. When I feel an attack coming on, I take a Zyflo CR (miracle pill for me), which starts to work in 30-60 minutes, and I may take Benadryl if it's closer to bed time. Still have nasal polyps that swell up with any allergic reaction, and the only relief is from a short 4-5 day burst of prednisone, which I try to limit to a few times a year. Haven't had a SOS in years, but after prednisone bursts, or after an annual steroid shot before taking an annual overseas trip, my sinus swelling goes down considerably, and I can breathe great thru my nose, and food tastes

fantastic for about 2-3 weeks. My sinuses and lungs seem to be overly sensitive after all these years. Any rapid changes in temperatures (e.g. going from a cold air conditioned building to a hot outside) and I start wheezing a bit, and my sinuses swell up with congestion. I know I may have to get another sinus surgery at some point, but I want to wait till I know I can keep the polyps from coming back.

>

> I try to eat well and walk for 30 minutes at least 4 times a week (sometimes take a puff from the rescue inhaler before walking). I haven't experienced any depression, but I don't sleep very deeply due to the constant congestion, which gets worse when I lay down. I haven't experienced any sort of depression or suicidal thoughts, and seem to feel the best when I'm at work and moving around or just keeping busy. I try to keep a very positive attitude, and with God's help, I'm not going to let this annoying condition control my life.

>

> Thanks to everyone for your posts. They are truly helpful, and hopefully we can all work together to find a cause and cure for this.

>

> Jack.

>

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